Another shooting at a school.

brianlux

hedonist wrote:

polaris_x wrote:

i think we need to let the dust settle ... today and this holiday season may just be about being appreciative of the time you have with loved ones ...

Much agreed, polaris. What a catalyst for that.

So fucking sad all around. Actually, the word "sad" doesn't even come close.

I'm not sure any words do, right now.

Oh, I totally agree, Hedonist. There is no word that fills the void right now.

justam

I can't imagine what those parents are going through right now. :shock:

PJ_Soul

stickfig13 wrote:

stickfig13 wrote:

The 2nd amendment never intended folks to have these. Last time I checked it was hard to rob someone at musket point.

What? The 2nd amendment intended for the citizens to have whatever weaponry they needed to STAND UP TO THE GOVERNMENT.
If you want to argue the obsolescence of that point, then fine. But this is just disingenuous.

I certainly don't want anyone who is thinking about arming themselves against the government having access to guns! They are simply paranoid and aggressive people - a dangerous combo.

josevolution

There are times to shit on the POTUS today is not that day , just try to mourn for those families that have been shattered as a matter of fact a whole community as has been shattered c'mon folks let's show some real class here ...The whole country is affected by something like this ....i'm done here .

Hug your kids

EdsonNascimento

justam wrote:

I can't imagine what those parents are going through right now. :shock:

As incomprehensible as that is, I can't imagine the terror those poor children went through. I'm trying (not) to imagine my 5 year old being in that classroom. It is so heartbreaking.

Thoughts and hope for the survivors to make it through ok. Nothing is more precious than your children and the thought of the chain of events that resulted in those poor souls being in that classroom just takes your breath away.

stickfig13

josevolution wrote:

There are times to shit on the POTUS today is not that day , just try to mourn for those families that have been shattered as a matter of fact a whole community as has been shattered c'mon folks let's show some real class here ...The whole country is affected by something like this ....i'm done here .

Hug your kids

Well said.

I'm just furious over this whole thing. I can't imagine the pain of those involved.


Sad Day

ComeToTX

NEWTOWN AND THE MADNESS OF GUNS
Posted by Adam Gopnik

After the mass gun murders at Virginia Tech, I wrote about the unfathomable image of cell phones ringing in the pockets of the dead kids, and of the parents trying desperately to reach them. And I said (as did many others), This will go on, if no one stops it, in this manner and to this degree in this country alone—alone among all the industrialized, wealthy, and so-called civilized countries in the world. There would be another, for certain.
Then there were—many more, in fact—and when the latest and worst one happened, in Aurora, I (and many others) said, this time in a tone of despair, that nothing had changed. And I (and many others) predicted that it would happen again, soon. And that once again, the same twisted voices would say, Oh, this had nothing to do with gun laws or the misuse of the Second Amendment or anything except some singular madman, of whom America for some reason seems to have a particularly dense sample.

And now it has happened again, bang, like clockwork, one might say: twenty dead children—babies, really—in a kindergarten in a prosperous town in Connecticut. And a mother screaming. And twenty families told that their grade-schooler had died. After the Aurora killings, I did a few debates with advocates for the child-killing lobby—sorry, the gun lobby—and, without exception and with a mad vehemence, they told the same old lies: it doesn’t happen here more often than elsewhere (yes, it does); more people are protected by guns than killed by them (no, they aren’t—that’s a flat-out fabrication); guns don’t kill people, people do; and all the other perverted lies that people who can only be called knowing accessories to murder continue to repeat, people who are in their own way every bit as twisted and crazy as the killers that they defend. (That they are often the same people who pretend outrage at the loss of a single embryo only makes the craziness still crazier.)

So let’s state the plain facts one more time, so that they can’t be mistaken: Gun massacres have happened many times in many countries, and in every other country, gun laws have been tightened to reflect the tragedy and the tragic knowledge of its citizens afterward. In every other country, gun massacres have subsequently become rare. In America alone, gun massacres, most often of children, happen with hideous regularity, and they happen with hideous regularity because guns are hideously and regularly available.

The people who fight and lobby and legislate to make guns regularly available are complicit in the murder of those children. They have made a clear moral choice: that the comfort and emotional reassurance they take from the possession of guns, placed in the balance even against the routine murder of innocent children, is of supreme value. Whatever satisfaction gun owners take from their guns—we know for certain that there is no prudential value in them—is more important than children’s lives. Give them credit: life is making moral choices, and that’s a moral choice, clearly made.

All of that is a truth, plain and simple, and recognized throughout the world. At some point, this truth may become so bloody obvious that we will know it, too. Meanwhile, congratulate yourself on living in the child-gun-massacre capital of the known universe.


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chadwick

fife wrote:

Don't even know what to say right now. apparently the killer is only 24 years old.

at what point do you just say fuck this I am moving to another country.

i've thought of relocating for like the last 20 years. Alaska is still the u.s. but i'd enjoy the north. canada also kicks a lot of ass as does the orient & whatnot. then of course we have the netherlands

whygohome

It's been a while. I've been on Long Island helping out family.
Anyway, I came across this today:

An article on the Free Republic website concerning the massacre in Newton, CT. These people are so repulsive; I am ashamed to have them as fellow Americans and fellow human beings. Fuck that, they are the scum of the Earth, they are subhumans. Repulsive Neanderthals.
One day we’ll advance as a species……’tis a shame that I’ll be long dead though…….


FREE REPUBLIC
Check out all the comments from the "Patriots", you know, the "real Americans."


"US President Obama Cries Over School Shooting"

Posted on Friday, December 14, 2012 5:51:28 PM by Tailgunner Joe

US President Barack Obama wept as he addressed the nation in the aftermath of the school shootings in Connecticut.
Mr Obama paused repeatedly as he struggled to keep his composure while speaking of the children who had been killed and the milestones in their lives they would never have - birthdays, graduations, weddings.
"Our hearts are broken today," he said, at times using a finger to wipe tears at the corners of his eyes.
Mr Obama said he had reacted to news of the elementary school shooting first as a parent.
He added that he and First Lady Michelle would do what any other parent in America would do - "hug our children a little tighter".
"There is not a parent in America who does not feel the same overwhelming grief I do," he said.
Mr Obama called for "meaningful action" regardless of politics.

COMMENTS
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Mr Obama paused repeatedly as he struggled to keep his composure
I struggled to keep my composure when he was elected...
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To: Tailgunner Joe
He is a fraud. He has killed more kids with his votes than all school shooters combined. And all the victims of his legislation won’t have birthdays either. Why no tears for them?

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To: Tailgunner Joe
Is he flying off to Las Vegas again?________________________________________
To: Tailgunner Joe
I saw him motion like he was wiping away a tear but I never saw any tears. Also, I found it interesting that when he scratches his face while talking about an opponent he uses his middle finger but when pretending to wipe away a tear he uses his index finger. Wouldn’t he use the same finger each time?
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Being defensless is not morally superior, those who advocate for others to be defenseless are evil, you know like Hitler, Mao, Stalin and Pol Pot, Mugabe.________________________________________
To: Tailgunner Joe
fake tears. I have seen that photo and no tears. Sorry.
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To: Abbeville Conservative
Someone on another thread has already pointed out that Zero wiped the outside corners of his eyes, and the tear ducts are on the inside corners. But we already knew he is a fake.
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To: Tailgunner Joe
This was in a wealthy area; I don’t believe for a minute that Obama cares a whit about these wealthy white children.
AS the left prepares its assault on gun rights, we need to prepare an assault on public schools. They obviously can’t provide the safety necessary...
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To: Tailgunner Joe
I’m sure they were fake tears. Sociopaths don’t feel the pain of others. They are only capable of inflicting it.
IMO Obama shows all the classic signs of narcissistic sociopathy.
The tears were intended to garner sympathy FOR him. Classic manipulative narcissistic behavior.
I would believe GWB’s tears. I would even believe Bill Clinton’s tears. But I don’t buy tears from Obama. Not for a second.
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To: Tailgunner Joe
DOES HE CRY WHEN THOSE IN CHICAGO ARE KILLED?
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To: junta
Same people “crying” now have been crying about the Syrian gooberment “killing its own” citizens for weeks now. Hello, that is why we have a 2A so we don’t have to wait for a cynical bunch of Ivy League crackheads to send us weapons.
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Crockodile tears from that hypocrite.
He thought the Ayers bombings were OK________________________________________
To: South40
The young man that did the killing lived in a society where killing the young out of convenience is a sacrament for the presidents party.
Truth hurts.
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To: Abbeville Conservative
"Wouldn’t he use the same finger each time?"...

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To: Renegade
His crying for the loss of these children is like Clinton crying at the funeral of Ron Brown.

THIS!! Does he cry when giving out a Medal of Honor like GWB? Nah. Does he cry when seeing the caskets of our brave troops who paid the ultimate price? Nah. As we speak he and his handlers are figuring out how big an opening this gives for grabbing guns from law abiding citizens. Countdown starts now . . .

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To: Tailgunner Joe
“All that tax money they could have paid... All the debt they could have assumed... (sob)”
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To: ColdOne
While I think it is appropriate for the POTUS to comment when terrible events like this happen, it's NOT ABOUT HIM, though.
I could really give a poop how he's affected.
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To: Tailgunner Joe
“NEVER LET A CRISIS GO TO WASTE.”
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To: Renegade
As was pointed out by another FReeper, Mr. Intellectual Giant was wiping imaginary tears from the outside of his eyes when tear ducts are located on the side closest to the nose.
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To: Tailgunner Joe
I thought Obama would be happy, most of the victims where white...

________________________________________To: Paladin2
It doesn’t look like a hotbed of Dems (except of course for all of the government workers milling about). This looks like an area where a lot of people are going to see their income taxes climb under Obama (and unlike Hollywood people, they can’t afford those increases while maintaining their standard of living).
If it was in one of CT’s food deserts I’d agree.
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Mr President...How come you don't cry over the thousands of babies aborted each year??
There is no other word...You're a Hypocrite!!
My prayers for all.
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To: rockvillem
As Rahm said, a crisis give you the chance to do things you normaly wouldn’t be able to do.
It’s called manipulation.
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To: Tailgunner Joe
"Mr Obama called for "meaningful action" regardless of politics.
There it is, right there. He wants to collect all guns.
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Obama was crying because he couldn’t believe the opportunity he was given to enact gun control legislation. Let no crisis go waste.
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To: Renegade
Exactly. Cries on cue. That’s about as sincere as a socialist can get.
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To: Tailgunner Joe
I will give him a bit of slack on this, but not much. Previously he described children as “burdens.” He is doing the correct thing today as president in a national tragedy, but it is also an issue he will exploit for more power.________________________________________
To: Tailgunner Joe
Did y’all hear all the camera’s start clicking when he pretended to cry? The lefty media is going to have a field day with this!
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To: ColdOne
Nope. Unless it was Whitey doing the killing.
Leftists are hypocrites. Every month in Chicago there are more young blacks killed than there were today in Newton.
Where’s the outrage? Where’s the call to ban guns? Ooops, that’s right. Guns are already banned in Bammie-ville.
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To: Tailgunner Joe
what utter crap, never let a crisis go to waste and we’ll have idiots thinking obama cares about them as if they were his kids.
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Zero is going to ban the AR-15, on line ammo, gun shows, and magazines. This will be his pretext for an emergency EO.
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To: Tailgunner Joe
I know that when I am about to lose it, it is not the tears that start first. It is the voice that cracks, followed by facial control, and lastly the tears flow.
It is interesting, than even as he paused, his voice never cracked or even showed signs of sadness. Plus, no matter how hard I tried, I could not find the invisible tears that he was wiping off his eyes and face.

whygohome

DriftingByTheStorm wrote:

Obama is ON it already. :fp:
Obama Press Conference
[got this from Facebook. even faster than the TV. lol]

Is this sincere or just politicization ???
i can't tell with this guy. he is like the master actor cum presidente.
Tears.
I get that it is sad as fuck. but ???
i just dunno. Nothing he does strikes me as genuine anymore
and he should have just said NOTHING and done nothing
so he wouldnt fucking drag POLITICS in to this.
:(

Wow. Unreal. Unreal. I hope someone hacked your account. You can't be serious.

chadwick

DriftingByTheStorm wrote:

shit like this makes me glad i don't have a fucking television at ALL.
Nothing shoved in my face.

Prayers towards the families.

FUBAR.
:( :( :(

same here... not one single television channel to view yet it is times like this when i wish i could at least check it out for a bit. but yeah it is nice not having crap shoved down your throat

whygohome

ajedigecko

Matthew 19:14

whygohome

dimitrispearljam

QuarterToTen wrote:

The fact that the word Another is in the thread title is absolutely beyond heartbreaking.

yes...this...


its unthinkable....i have no words..im so so sorry....small kids....omg...

dimitrispearljam

SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:

blackredyellow wrote:

There is nothing that can even be said about this... Little kids died today... all they did was go to school, and now they are never coming home.

These children went to Elementary School.
These children were one week away from Christmas Vacation.
Santa Claus was coming to their house in 10 days.

:( :( :(

dimitrispearljam

ComeToTX wrote:

Pretty sure not one writer of the Constitution would have said massacres of first-graders are the price we must pay to have a check on government power.

I have two kids under 5. Where the fuck can I sen them where they'll be safe? School? Nope! Movies? Nope. Fuck this shit.

I've voted for Obama twice now. He needs to do something about this. Now! Be a fucking leader, Mr. President.

Fuck the NRA!

dimitrispearljam

deserteddotse wrote:

ledvedderman wrote:

Guns save lives....what a wanker belief

dimitrispearljam

ill quote the conversation when ive been told at facebook about it

Those sweet kids, their friends who lived to see it happen, parents waiting outside the school for news

omg..that thought....what anyone can say....

dimitrispearljam

rollings wrote:

....how the article describes the parents waiting for their children to come out...and those left standing and waiting. oh my God

omg...