They don't understand the importance guns play in keeping people free, and only see the cost of that freedom on display when people do bad things with guns.
How on earth do guns play a role in keeping people free? Honestly, I'd really like to be enlightened because I'd consider Australia to be a far free-er country than America and we don't have the right to bear arms. Our government has never gone rogue and killed mass amounts of people, we don't have our rights and freedoms limited. Hell...we are even allowed to burn our flag if we want. You guys can't.
So please tell me how guns keep people free. Because the only way I see that is when a criminal shoots a police officer in order to avoid going to jail - then his gun is keeping him free. Otherwise, i just don't get it.
How on earth do guns play a role in keeping people free? Honestly, I'd really like to be enlightened because I'd consider Australia to be a far free-er country than America and we don't have the right to bear arms. Our government has never gone rogue and killed mass amounts of people, we don't have our rights and freedoms limited. Hell...we are even allowed to burn our flag if we want. You guys can't.
So please tell me how guns keep people free. Because the only way I see that is when a criminal shoots a police officer in order to avoid going to jail - then his gun is keeping him free. Otherwise, i just don't get it.
I don't think this is a dialogue you can really have with most Americans. The gun culture in the US is so distinct and so utterly foreign that many Americans legitimately believe that freedom only comes at the end of the barrel of a gun (preferably a semi-automatic assault rifle). It's a waste of breath.
How on earth do guns play a role in keeping people free? Honestly, I'd really like to be enlightened because I'd consider Australia to be a far free-er country than America and we don't have the right to bear arms. Our government has never gone rogue and killed mass amounts of people, we don't have our rights and freedoms limited. Hell...we are even allowed to burn our flag if we want. You guys can't.
So please tell me how guns keep people free. Because the only way I see that is when a criminal shoots a police officer in order to avoid going to jail - then his gun is keeping him free. Otherwise, i just don't get it.
I don't think this is a dialogue you can really have with most Americans. The gun culture in the US is so distinct and so utterly foreign that many Americans legitimately believe that freedom only comes at the end of the barrel of a gun (preferably a semi-automatic assault rifle). It's a waste of breath.
How on earth do guns play a role in keeping people free? Honestly, I'd really like to be enlightened because I'd consider Australia to be a far free-er country than America and we don't have the right to bear arms. Our government has never gone rogue and killed mass amounts of people, we don't have our rights and freedoms limited. Hell...we are even allowed to burn our flag if we want. You guys can't.
So please tell me how guns keep people free. Because the only way I see that is when a criminal shoots a police officer in order to avoid going to jail - then his gun is keeping him free. Otherwise, i just don't get it.
I don't think this is a dialogue you can really have with most Americans. The gun culture in the US is so distinct and so utterly foreign that many Americans legitimately believe that freedom only comes at the end of the barrel of a gun (preferably a semi-automatic assault rifle). It's a waste of breath.
I'm not sure it is 'most Americans'. I think most Americans recognize the time and need for change, but are held hostage by that well-entrenched 'gun culture' you speak of.
Think of the logistical task of 'unarming' citizens who don't want to be disarmed. There have been seemingly reasonable people on this very forum essentially threatening anyone daring to seize their guns.
How on earth do guns play a role in keeping people free? Honestly, I'd really like to be enlightened because I'd consider Australia to be a far free-er country than America and we don't have the right to bear arms. Our government has never gone rogue and killed mass amounts of people, we don't have our rights and freedoms limited. Hell...we are even allowed to burn our flag if we want. You guys can't.
So please tell me how guns keep people free. Because the only way I see that is when a criminal shoots a police officer in order to avoid going to jail - then his gun is keeping him free. Otherwise, i just don't get it.
I don't think this is a dialogue you can really have with most Americans. The gun culture in the US is so distinct and so utterly foreign that many Americans legitimately believe that freedom only comes at the end of the barrel of a gun (preferably a semi-automatic assault rifle). It's a waste of breath.
As an American I'd hope it is a small amount of LUNATICS that have that view, cause that's what they are, lunatics, and America would be better off without those people, as would the world.
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Is this why you idiots need guns, to protect yourself from police? This shit just doesn't stop. I really hope Obama meant what he said tonight and gets some laws into action quickly to try and stop this nonsense best we can. Will we ever eliminate all of them, no, but we should do everything to stop them.
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i dont want to outlaw guns... i'm happy for the continued loss of life as I personally feel there are far too many idiots in the world as it is... people in the US seem intent on killing its own citizens then maybe thats where all the idiots go to live?
its their freedoms to have big gun to kill each other.... they cant burn a piece of material... which we can do... but they are allowed big guns... this makes them free apparently.
oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
They don't understand the importance guns play in keeping people free, and only see the cost of that freedom on display when people do bad things with guns.
How on earth do guns play a role in keeping people free? Honestly, I'd really like to be enlightened because I'd consider Australia to be a far free-er country than America and we don't have the right to bear arms. Our government has never gone rogue and killed mass amounts of people, we don't have our rights and freedoms limited. Hell...we are even allowed to burn our flag if we want. You guys can't.
So please tell me how guns keep people free. Because the only way I see that is when a criminal shoots a police officer in order to avoid going to jail - then his gun is keeping him free. Otherwise, i just don't get it.
well thats cause we dont have a bill of rights stardust...and thats cause we didnt have to fight for our freedom and independence. what rights we australians have arent god given and theyre not enshrined on a piece of paper that we can hide behind. and yes i too consider australia to be freer society than the US. but something you should never forget is australia has been beside the US step by step in every major confrontation theyve been involved with since WW2... before that we were lockstep with britain... we may not start the bullshit but we sure do support it... and in that i consider our government to be weak.
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I can (kind of) understand guns for hunting and target practice/competitions, but when people buy a gun for "protection" they are basically buying a gun with the intention of possibly killing someone. I don't understand that. I don't know why people would buy a weapon to murder someone else.
I almost have pity on people who feel so overpowered by fear that they have to purchase protection in the form of a murder weapon.
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How on earth do guns play a role in keeping people free? Honestly, I'd really like to be enlightened because I'd consider Australia to be a far free-er country than America and we don't have the right to bear arms. Our government has never gone rogue and killed mass amounts of people, we don't have our rights and freedoms limited. Hell...we are even allowed to burn our flag if we want. You guys can't.
So please tell me how guns keep people free. Because the only way I see that is when a criminal shoots a police officer in order to avoid going to jail - then his gun is keeping him free. Otherwise, i just don't get it.
I don't think this is a dialogue you can really have with most Americans. The gun culture in the US is so distinct and so utterly foreign that many Americans legitimately believe that freedom only comes at the end of the barrel of a gun (preferably a semi-automatic assault rifle). It's a waste of breath.
It seems that way.
I'm not sure it is 'most Americans'. I think most Americans recognize the time and need for change, but are held hostage by that well-entrenched 'gun culture' you speak of.
Think of the logistical task of 'unarming' citizens who don't want to be disarmed. There have been seemingly reasonable people on this very forum essentially threatening anyone daring to seize their guns.
As an American I'd hope it is a small amount of LUNATICS that have that view, cause that's what they are, lunatics, and America would be better off without those people, as would the world.
Chicago 5/16/06, Chicago 5/17/06, Grand Rapids 5/19/06
Milwaukee 6/29/06, Milwaukee 6/30/06, Lollapalooza 8/5/07
Eddie Solo Milwaukee 8/19/08, Toronto 8/21/09, Chicago 8/23/09
Chicago 8/24/09, Indianapolis 5/7/10, Ed Chicago 6/29/11, Alpine Valley 9/3/11 and 9/4/11, Wrigley 7/19/13, Moline 10/18/14, Milwaukee 10/20/14
Is this why you idiots need guns, to protect yourself from police? This shit just doesn't stop. I really hope Obama meant what he said tonight and gets some laws into action quickly to try and stop this nonsense best we can. Will we ever eliminate all of them, no, but we should do everything to stop them.
Chicago 5/16/06, Chicago 5/17/06, Grand Rapids 5/19/06
Milwaukee 6/29/06, Milwaukee 6/30/06, Lollapalooza 8/5/07
Eddie Solo Milwaukee 8/19/08, Toronto 8/21/09, Chicago 8/23/09
Chicago 8/24/09, Indianapolis 5/7/10, Ed Chicago 6/29/11, Alpine Valley 9/3/11 and 9/4/11, Wrigley 7/19/13, Moline 10/18/14, Milwaukee 10/20/14
its their freedoms to have big gun to kill each other.... they cant burn a piece of material... which we can do... but they are allowed big guns... this makes them free apparently.
well thats cause we dont have a bill of rights stardust...and thats cause we didnt have to fight for our freedom and independence. what rights we australians have arent god given and theyre not enshrined on a piece of paper that we can hide behind. and yes i too consider australia to be freer society than the US. but something you should never forget is australia has been beside the US step by step in every major confrontation theyve been involved with since WW2... before that we were lockstep with britain... we may not start the bullshit but we sure do support it... and in that i consider our government to be weak.
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
I almost have pity on people who feel so overpowered by fear that they have to purchase protection in the form of a murder weapon.
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.