Election Night Thread

Hugh Freaking Dillon

Heisenberg wrote:

Jesus Christ Donald Trump is a douchebag

why? what did he say now?

Newch91

Is it safe to say Citizens United was defeated tonight?

peacefrompaul

NORML is calling FULL LEGALIZATION in Washington State!

gimmesometruth27

bootlegger10 wrote:

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:

where's fear4freedom?

there are a few people that i am surprised are not online right now. i would like to read what they have to say.

does re-election in a big way = a mandate? bush thought it did.

We'll see who wins the popular vote which can change the whole mandate argument. Electoral college though is certainly a large victory.

i agree. but i think once california's votes are counted the popular vote will be much closer than it is right now.

Cliffy6745

Karl Rove is going strong.

musicismylife78

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:

where's fear4freedom?

there are a few people that i am surprised are not online right now. i would like to read what they have to say.

does re-election in a big way = a mandate? bush thought it did.

of course he's going to take it that way. I guarantee his speech tonight will mention some sort of line about a victory for people who want peace, and prosperity and sane policies. This is an affirmation of 4 years of failed policies.

So, 4 more years of war, torture, illegal wiretapping, obama continuing to have a more than friendly relationship with the financial institutions, nothing major getting done to address global warming, continued racist drug wars, more prisons, more drones in other countries. american exceptionalism and global hegemony, and nothing at all being done to address the worst economy since the great depression.

Cradles Broken Glass

I am a happy girl tonight. It is so nice to see democracy in action.

gimmesometruth27

Newch91 wrote:

Is it safe to say Citizens United was defeated tonight?

this election cycle yes. but this loss will only embolden the big money guys who pumped millions of anonymous money into this election. i would hate to see the superpacs next cycle when most of congress is up for election again.

vant0037

bootlegger10 wrote:

Voting results not unexpected.

I hope you all liked the last four years, because you are getting four more of them.

Debt now > debt in 2008
Unemployment now > unemployment in 2008
Food stamps now > food stamps in 2008

You all do realize on the economy Obama did everything George W. Bush would have done? Bush would have bailed out Wall Street, Bush would have bailed out the auto industry, Bush was responsible for the first stimulus, Bush let the Fed do whatever it wanted...

Enjoy! You deserve Obama.

Well that was graceful. Come on man...I really hope every one wants the best for this country. It's comments like these that make me think that's not always the case.

peacefrompaul

Cliffy6745 wrote:

Karl Rove is going strong.

Fuck Karl Rove

bootlegger10

Cradles Broken Glass wrote:

I am a happy girl tonight. It is so nice to see democracy in action.

What are you happy about? What are you expecting to happen in the next four years? Just curious.

Obama never really told us his agenda for the next four years, so just curious on what the expectations are.

Cliffy6745

Turn on Fox News. Rove is losing it

Newch91

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

Newch91 wrote:

Is it safe to say Citizens United was defeated tonight?

this election cycle yes. but this loss will only embolden the big money guys who pumped millions of anonymous money into this election. i would hate to see the superpacs next cycle when most of congress is up for election again.

I believe if one or two of the conservative justices on the Surpeme Court retire during Obama's 2nd term, I see it being overturned.

peacefrompaul

Cliffy6745 wrote:

Turn on Fox News. Rove is losing it

I did... I stopped watching.

musicismylife78

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

Newch91 wrote:

Is it safe to say Citizens United was defeated tonight?

this election cycle yes. but this loss will only embolden the big money guys who pumped millions of anonymous money into this election. i would hate to see the superpacs next cycle when most of congress is up for election again.

it wont embolden them, its remained the same. Obama in 2008 won the PR industries Best Campaign award. Beating out Apple. The WSJ and other buisness press widely praised him for creating this new effective campaign that would change the ad industry. The financial institutions favored Obama heavily in 2008, and I have no doubt thats who funded the 2012 campaign. Who did he bail out? The financial instutitions.

The elections and the government are run by people with money. Thats why I quoted Madison earlier, when he talked about the goal of the government is to protect the minority of the opulant against the majority. This is from the consitutional convention.

Money is poltics has always existed. 2012 wasnt any different.

bootlegger10

vant0037 wrote:

bootlegger10 wrote:

Voting results not unexpected.

I hope you all liked the last four years, because you are getting four more of them.

Debt now > debt in 2008
Unemployment now > unemployment in 2008
Food stamps now > food stamps in 2008

You all do realize on the economy Obama did everything George W. Bush would have done? Bush would have bailed out Wall Street, Bush would have bailed out the auto industry, Bush was responsible for the first stimulus, Bush let the Fed do whatever it wanted...

Enjoy! You deserve Obama.

Well that was graceful. Come on man...I really hope every one wants the best for this country. It's comments like these that make me think that's not always the case.

Everyone is excited in this thread. I can't figure out why.

I hope Obama fixes the country, but he did not have a plan to reduce debt, fix Medicare, fix Social Security, fix the schools...THat is why I made my post. Things got worse under Obama and the scary thing is he has not put any new ideas on how to fix things in the last couple years.

BinauralJam

Cliffy6745 wrote:

Turn on Fox News. Rove is losing it

Cliffy6745

peacefrompaul wrote:

Cliffy6745 wrote:

Karl Rove is going strong.

Fuck Karl Rove

Heeeeelarious. Still arguing it's not over

gimmesometruth27

Newch91 wrote:

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

Newch91 wrote:

Is it safe to say Citizens United was defeated tonight?

this election cycle yes. but this loss will only embolden the big money guys who pumped millions of anonymous money into this election. i would hate to see the superpacs next cycle when most of congress is up for election again.

I believe if one or two of the conservative justices on the Surpeme Court retire during Obama's 2nd term, I see it being overturned.

i could be wrong, but i believe that both houses of congress can overturn it legislatively.

xavier mcdaniel

best part is that I picked Obama in streak for the cash on ESPN..