My best guess would be that a gas station attendant=security guard at a sunoco station.
Fair enough, but if that's the case - how exactly did his government training help him? It's a gas station attendant position - I know for certain, you don't need gov't training - I was one.
And why didn't he say gas station attendant. Why was it puffed up to "supervisory" security guard at a petroleum company? Seems pretty ridiculous.
My best guess would be that a gas station attendant=security guard at a sunoco station.
Fair enough, but if that's the case - how exactly did his government training help him? It's a gas station attendant position - I know for certain, you don't need gov't training - I was one.
And why didn't he say gas station attendant. Why was it puffed up to "supervisory" security guard at a petroleum company? Seems pretty ridiculous.
I don't know. What he said was that he took a two week class that gave him the credentials he needed to get the certification to become a security guard. I don't know the gas station he worked at or any of the actual details. Maybe he need some type of certification to work overnight alone at a gas station at that time. He made a point that it was the midnight shift, I believe. I could be wrong and I honestly have no horse in this race. I couldn't care less about Eddie's politics. If he never talked about he WM3 again, I would be happy.
My best guess would be that a gas station attendant=security guard at a sunoco station.
Fair enough, but if that's the case - how exactly did his government training help him? It's a gas station attendant position - I know for certain, you don't need gov't training - I was one.
And why didn't he say gas station attendant. Why was it puffed up to "supervisory" security guard at a petroleum company? Seems pretty ridiculous.
I don't know. What he said was that he took a two week class that gave him the credentials he needed to get the certification to become a security guard. I don't know the gas station he worked at or any of the actual details. Maybe he need some type of certification to work overnight alone at a gas station at that time. He made a point that it was the midnight shift, I believe. I could be wrong and I honestly have no horse in this race. I couldn't care less about Eddie's politics. If he never talked about he WM3 again, I would be happy.
I think if we're being honest, Eddie was puffing up the story a bit to make it look like government helped him get into Pearl Jam. Which I think , if we're being honest, we all know is not really true at all - and at least a bit messed up.
I get that he supports President Obama. He has every right. He also has every right to criticize big noggin - Romney. But, let's be real about what he's doing out there. According to what you said, he was trying to argue the two week class - which I bet he had to take ONCE HE GOT THE JOB- not before (I did when I worked as a gas attendant) - was what got him the job. He's stretching a bit to try to make his guy look good - for all I know he was asked to come up with a story of how government helped him.
The fact that it seems he stretched his current auto biography from gas attendent to supervisor of security guards at a petroleum company to "potentially" fit Obama's demands - if that's true: that's kinda messed up - at least to me. And if it's true , I'd really lose more respect. And it doesn't have to do with supporting a Presidential candidate - it has to do with changing stories - repeatedly.
One day corporations are bad, the next we can stretch what we did to make it look like we were a higher up at a gas company,...
Someone (a few pages behind) posted that the government does not trust business owners to do the right thing to its workers. That is why these social programs exist. On the other side of the fence, some have said that we should give the business owners tax breaks, and once they get it they will do the right thing to its workers.
I'm assuming, in Romney's view, that times have changed and businesses and the affluent, will take care of the people and make this economy work again. Personally, I disagree. History has shown that some, not all, big businesses have taken advantage of their workers and have not treated them fairly- have not given them a living wage- and generally hoarded the money. This is how unions and social programs have come about. If the rich really want people off of public assistance, then they would pay them enough so that they can be dependent upon themselves.
There was an article I read- either here or somewhere else- about the heiress of Walmart- she said the wages in Austraila- where the average person makes $15+ per hour- was too high. http://www.fairwork.gov.au/pay/national ... fault.aspx
If the american worker got that, do you think the at the economy would get better and then people could afford their own healthcare, buy goods- in essence- spend money?
edit: I know this is a simplistic view, and there are other social and emotional issues that come into play. As in, if those workers were given the money- would they use that money wisely- that is where education comes about. Home Economics is dying in the schools- and they should definitely bring that back-
There is a reason corporations hate unions so much and do everything they can to fight them.
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Btw, ed worked as a gas attendant, and as a security guard. The two jobs had nothing todo with one another, and none of you know what the actual circumstances were around him getting that job he was talking about. I don't think any of you are qualified to speak on the matter.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
I don't mean to sound insulting or provoking or snide or anything (honestly) but why is Eddie's past employment so important here?
Brian - we are posting on a PJ forum. So, therefore, Eddie Vedder matters. Let's get that one out of the way. Second, we both frequent the MT portion - so politics matters. When Eddie Vedder introduces the President of the US - that probably matters. You following me here?
Then, he goes on to say what he said, which doesn't really follow what I've read on his past (and I think what most have read) in attempt to say government is what got him there - umm... yeh, that matters too. Seems a bit off. That's all.
All told - it's important - at least to me. And for the sake of this particular thread - I was NOT the first to bring this up within. Read back if you'd like.
I asked on porch and they freaked out and locked the thread, so I'll ask here:
Why does this supervisor security guard at a petroleum company not line up with the Eddie Vedder working as a gas station attendant when he heard back from Stone and Jeff - that I was familiar with? Anyone have ideas?
I can't for the life of me figure out what exactly it is you're asking here, Inlet. One of us has been hanging out in the Lounge Car too long.
He said in the Obama opening he was a supervisor security guard at a petroleum co. and he received gov't assistance to be one. This is how he got into rock by funding it. I heard he was a gas station attendant. Not a supervisor security guard at an oil company.
Anyone who's familiar with PJ knows the gas station attendant, living in a shack, surfing story that ended with Once, Alive and Footsteps while surfing.
My point is - this doesn't add up. The story is changing. I'm looking for a reason - maybe I'm off somewhere.
I'm pretty sure your thread got lo led because you are both talking about his private life as though it's your business and like you know something about it, which is against the rules, and are calling Eddie a liar when it comes to talking about his own life during a private event, which is also not accepted on the boards... are you trying to get this thread locked too? Take a hint.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
Btw, ed worked as a gas attendant, and as a security guard. The two jobs had nothing todo with one another, and none of you know what the actual circumstances were around him getting that job he was talking about. I don't think any of you are qualified to speak on the matter.
I think you mean when he worked as a security guard at a hotel? Right? We do have records of that in his wiki.
BUT, that's not what he said. He said a security guard at a petroleum company. In fact, as supervisory security guard at said petroleum company.
I think if we're being honest, Eddie was puffing up the story a bit to make it look like government helped him get into Pearl Jam. Which I think , if we're being honest, we all know is not really true at all - and at least a bit messed up.
I get that he supports President Obama. He has every right. He also has every right to criticize big noggin - Romney. But, let's be real about what he's doing out there. According to what you said, he was trying to argue the two week class - which I bet he had to take ONCE HE GOT THE JOB- not before (I did when I worked as a gas attendant) - was what got him the job. He's stretching a bit to try to make his guy look good - for all I know he was asked to come up with a story of how government helped him.
The fact that it seems he stretched his current auto biography from gas attendent to supervisor of security guards at a petroleum company to "potentially" fit Obama's demands - if that's true: that's kinda messed up - at least to me. And if it's true , I'd really lose more respect. And it doesn't have to do with supporting a Presidential candidate - it has to do with changing stories - repeatedly.
One day corporations are bad, the next we can stretch what we did to make it look like we were a higher up at a gas company,...
when's it end?
I don't know, dude, and honestly, I don't really give a shit. I was never into this band because of the politics as I'm a bit younger than most (about to be 30). I think music had a big say in politics back in the day but I don't see it as much anymore (which is probably a sad thing). Like I said, I really don't give a shit what Eddie has to say. I pay a whole lot more attention to what Obama has to say than Eddie.
I''m not arguing his story one way or the other, just pointing out what he could have been trying to say. He certainly may have exaggerating for the setting, I have no clue and really don't care. Just like I don't care about Derek Jeter's political views.
Btw, ed worked as a gas attendant, and as a security guard. The two jobs had nothing todo with one another, and none of you know what the actual circumstances were around him getting that job he was talking about. I don't think any of you are qualified to speak on the matter.
I think you mean when he worked as a security guard at a hotel? Right? We do have records of that in his wiki.
BUT, that's not what he said. He said a security guard at a petroleum company. In fact, as supervisory security guard at said petroleum company.
So, I think you're off a bit PJ_Soul.
Noty business, but if he said he worked as a security guard at a petroleum company then I'm inclined to take his word on it over your random assumptions.
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With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
I'm pretty sure your thread got lo led because you are both talking about his private life as though it's your business and like you know something about it, which is against the rules, and are calling Eddie a liar when it comes to talking about his own life during a private event, which is also not accepted on the boards... are you trying to get this thread locked too? Take a hint.
What Ed said is headline news today. He, not I, brought the story out into the public - so take "private" out of the equation. Do you want me to get sources from CNN, AOL, MSN, FOX, Rolling Stone etc? They all had the story and ran it.
I'm not calling Ed a liar at all. I'm trying to seek truth. That's all. Not sure why you're getting upset.
I'm pretty sure your thread got lo led because you are both talking about his private life as though it's your business and like you know something about it, which is against the rules, and are calling Eddie a liar when it comes to talking about his own life during a private event, which is also not accepted on the boards... are you trying to get this thread locked too? Take a hint.
What Ed said is headline news today. He, not I, brought the story out into the public - so take "private" out of the equation. Do you want me to get sources from CNN, AOL, MSN, FOX, Rolling Stone etc? They all had the story and ran it.
I'm not calling Ed a liar at all. I'm trying to seek truth. That's all. Not sure why you're getting upset.
I'm not upset - just talking. I am almost never mad when i'm dicussing here; i just speak my mind. I really just don't see any reason to think you have any idea of what you're talking about when it comes to Ed's life before PJ, and I dunno, it just doesn't seem appropriate for you to express such doubt about what Ed says about his own past experiences on the 10c boards, and I don't want this great thread to get locked.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
I think if we're being honest, Eddie was puffing up the story a bit to make it look like government helped him get into Pearl Jam. Which I think , if we're being honest, we all know is not really true at all - and at least a bit messed up.
I get that he supports President Obama. He has every right. He also has every right to criticize big noggin - Romney. But, let's be real about what he's doing out there. According to what you said, he was trying to argue the two week class - which I bet he had to take ONCE HE GOT THE JOB- not before (I did when I worked as a gas attendant) - was what got him the job. He's stretching a bit to try to make his guy look good - for all I know he was asked to come up with a story of how government helped him.
The fact that it seems he stretched his current auto biography from gas attendent to supervisor of security guards at a petroleum company to "potentially" fit Obama's demands - if that's true: that's kinda messed up - at least to me. And if it's true , I'd really lose more respect. And it doesn't have to do with supporting a Presidential candidate - it has to do with changing stories - repeatedly.
One day corporations are bad, the next we can stretch what we did to make it look like we were a higher up at a gas company,...
when's it end?
I don't know, dude, and honestly, I don't really give a shit. I was never into this band because of the politics as I'm a bit younger than most (about to be 30). I think music had a big say in politics back in the day but I don't see it as much anymore (which is probably a sad thing). Like I said, I really don't give a shit what Eddie has to say. I pay a whole lot more attention to what Obama has to say than Eddie.
I''m not arguing his story one way or the other, just pointing out what he could have been trying to say. He certainly may have exaggerating for the setting, I have no clue and really don't care. Just like I don't care about Derek Jeter's political views.
I'm only a couple years older than you. I was never into this bad for their politics either. I understand why you may not care, but hope you respect someone else may care. This doesn't line up with a lot I've heard on the band. I've followed the bad for a long time and I don't recall the eddie vedder story including this part about gov't assistance and this other high-up job, and it seems confusing to toss it in the first time he introduces a President who's very into gov't. Kinda fishy is all... was hoping someone would toss an article out and say - see inlet - you're wrong. But, haven't seen that. It's fishy - almost like he was stretching a bit.
I'm not upset - just talking. I am almost never mad when i'm dicussing here; i just speak my mind. I really just don't see any reason to think you have any idea of what you're talking about when it comes to Ed's life before PJ, and I dunno, it just doesn't seem appropriate for you to express such doubt about what Ed says about his own past experiences on the 10c boards, and I don't want this great thread to get locked.
You should complain to the ComeToTX then. He/she added this topic to this thread. I'm just commenting on the topic they added. That's all.
As for what I think. It's topical. We're in MT. We're in PJ.com. Ed introduced the President. He shared a story about gov't. I'm commenting on the story.
Sorry - the story doesn't line up with past documentation. That's all I'm saying. It's odd.
I'm not upset - just talking. I am almost never mad when i'm dicussing here; i just speak my mind. I really just don't see any reason to think you have any idea of what you're talking about when it comes to Ed's life before PJ, and I dunno, it just doesn't seem appropriate for you to express such doubt about what Ed says about his own past experiences on the 10c boards, and I don't want this great thread to get locked.
You should complain to the ComeToTX then. He/she added this topic to this thread. I'm just commenting on the topic they added. That's all.
As for what I think. It's topical. We're in MT. We're in PJ.com. Ed introduced the President. He shared a story about gov't. I'm commenting on the story.
Sorry - the story doesn't line up with past documentation. That's all I'm saying. It's odd.
Yeah, well... for me, if ed says that he feels some government assistance once helped him, then I'm fine with that. My first instinct isn't to doubt him, but only to assume there is stuff I don't know about him, and that I certainly have no clue if he benefitted from some kind of government assistance 23 years ago, but tend to think that if he said he did, then I guess he did.
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With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
I'm only a couple years older than you. I was never into this bad for their politics either. I understand why you may not care, but hope you respect someone else may care. This doesn't line up with a lot I've heard on the band. I've followed the bad for a long time and I don't recall the eddie vedder story including this part about gov't assistance and this other high-up job, and it seems confusing to toss it in the first time he introduces a President who's very into gov't. Kinda fishy is all... was hoping someone would toss an article out and say - see inlet - you're wrong. But, haven't seen that. It's fishy - almost like he was stretching a bit.
I hear you and I completely understand. I understand what the band meant to people at the time and what they spoke for, and completely understand why people are upset with them, even though I disagree. People change, in my mind. Shit, I am a much different person than I was a few years ago, personal and political.
I honestly don't know enough about his personal life to make a judgement one way or another. I believe I have heard security guard/gas station attendant, so I have no clue and am not basing my vote on what he says in the least. Maybe he took the class after, maybe he took it before, maybe he was trying to fit in with a group of people that were already voting for him and he was trying to make a point and exaggerated a bit. I have no clue.
I asked on porch and they freaked out and locked the thread, so I'll ask here:
Why does this supervisor security guard at a petroleum company not line up with the Eddie Vedder working as a gas station attendant when he heard back from Stone and Jeff - that I was familiar with? Anyone have ideas?
I can't for the life of me figure out what exactly it is you're asking here, Inlet. One of us has been hanging out in the Lounge Car too long.
He said in the Obama opening he was a supervisor security guard at a petroleum co. and he received gov't assistance to be one. This is how he got into rock by funding it. I heard he was a gas station attendant. Not a supervisor security guard at an oil company.
Anyone who's familiar with PJ knows the gas station attendant, living in a shack, surfing story that ended with Once, Alive and Footsteps while surfing.
My point is - this doesn't add up. The story is changing. I'm looking for a reason - maybe I'm off somewhere.
I had heard years ago that he worked security at a petroleum company. I can't remember if it was in a book or in an article, but I definitely remember reading that because I had heard he was a gas station attendant as well. My thought is that either 1) the reports that he was a gas station attendant were confused in hearing that he worked for an oil company (probably fairly easy mistake) 2) He worked more than one job at a time (I worked 3 different jobs at the same time when I first graduated undergrad - not so uncommon), or 3) he worked more than one job consecutively within the same year as a lot of young people do
Eddie probably knows his work history better than any reporter, author or wikipedia writer
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Fair enough, but if that's the case - how exactly did his government training help him? It's a gas station attendant position - I know for certain, you don't need gov't training - I was one.
And why didn't he say gas station attendant. Why was it puffed up to "supervisory" security guard at a petroleum company? Seems pretty ridiculous.
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I don't know. What he said was that he took a two week class that gave him the credentials he needed to get the certification to become a security guard. I don't know the gas station he worked at or any of the actual details. Maybe he need some type of certification to work overnight alone at a gas station at that time. He made a point that it was the midnight shift, I believe. I could be wrong and I honestly have no horse in this race. I couldn't care less about Eddie's politics. If he never talked about he WM3 again, I would be happy.
-Eddie Vedder, "Smile"
About what we should expect out of you.
Honest question, are you a real person?
Another honest question for everyone else. Remember that "chick" that was blowing Ronald McDonald. Is this the same person? Seems like it.
Because he performed at an Obama fundraiser last night and told a story some think has factual errors in.
I think if we're being honest, Eddie was puffing up the story a bit to make it look like government helped him get into Pearl Jam. Which I think , if we're being honest, we all know is not really true at all - and at least a bit messed up.
I get that he supports President Obama. He has every right. He also has every right to criticize big noggin - Romney. But, let's be real about what he's doing out there. According to what you said, he was trying to argue the two week class - which I bet he had to take ONCE HE GOT THE JOB- not before (I did when I worked as a gas attendant) - was what got him the job. He's stretching a bit to try to make his guy look good - for all I know he was asked to come up with a story of how government helped him.
The fact that it seems he stretched his current auto biography from gas attendent to supervisor of security guards at a petroleum company to "potentially" fit Obama's demands - if that's true: that's kinda messed up - at least to me. And if it's true , I'd really lose more respect. And it doesn't have to do with supporting a Presidential candidate - it has to do with changing stories - repeatedly.
One day corporations are bad, the next we can stretch what we did to make it look like we were a higher up at a gas company,...
when's it end?
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Thank you. You're right.
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Brian - we are posting on a PJ forum. So, therefore, Eddie Vedder matters. Let's get that one out of the way. Second, we both frequent the MT portion - so politics matters. When Eddie Vedder introduces the President of the US - that probably matters. You following me here?
Then, he goes on to say what he said, which doesn't really follow what I've read on his past (and I think what most have read) in attempt to say government is what got him there - umm... yeh, that matters too. Seems a bit off. That's all.
All told - it's important - at least to me. And for the sake of this particular thread - I was NOT the first to bring this up within. Read back if you'd like.
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I think you mean when he worked as a security guard at a hotel? Right? We do have records of that in his wiki.
BUT, that's not what he said. He said a security guard at a petroleum company. In fact, as supervisory security guard at said petroleum company.
So, I think you're off a bit PJ_Soul.
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I don't know, dude, and honestly, I don't really give a shit. I was never into this band because of the politics as I'm a bit younger than most (about to be 30). I think music had a big say in politics back in the day but I don't see it as much anymore (which is probably a sad thing). Like I said, I really don't give a shit what Eddie has to say. I pay a whole lot more attention to what Obama has to say than Eddie.
I''m not arguing his story one way or the other, just pointing out what he could have been trying to say. He certainly may have exaggerating for the setting, I have no clue and really don't care. Just like I don't care about Derek Jeter's political views.
What Ed said is headline news today. He, not I, brought the story out into the public - so take "private" out of the equation. Do you want me to get sources from CNN, AOL, MSN, FOX, Rolling Stone etc? They all had the story and ran it.
I'm not calling Ed a liar at all. I'm trying to seek truth. That's all. Not sure why you're getting upset.
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I'm only a couple years older than you. I was never into this bad for their politics either. I understand why you may not care, but hope you respect someone else may care. This doesn't line up with a lot I've heard on the band. I've followed the bad for a long time and I don't recall the eddie vedder story including this part about gov't assistance and this other high-up job, and it seems confusing to toss it in the first time he introduces a President who's very into gov't. Kinda fishy is all... was hoping someone would toss an article out and say - see inlet - you're wrong. But, haven't seen that. It's fishy - almost like he was stretching a bit.
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You should complain to the ComeToTX then. He/she added this topic to this thread. I'm just commenting on the topic they added. That's all.
As for what I think. It's topical. We're in MT. We're in PJ.com. Ed introduced the President. He shared a story about gov't. I'm commenting on the story.
Sorry - the story doesn't line up with past documentation. That's all I'm saying. It's odd.
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I guaranfuckin'tee if you interview me about my life story there will be some errors!
-Eddie Vedder, "Smile"
Brian,
Do you think you would leave out the part about being an exec for an oil company?
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I hear you and I completely understand. I understand what the band meant to people at the time and what they spoke for, and completely understand why people are upset with them, even though I disagree. People change, in my mind. Shit, I am a much different person than I was a few years ago, personal and political.
I honestly don't know enough about his personal life to make a judgement one way or another. I believe I have heard security guard/gas station attendant, so I have no clue and am not basing my vote on what he says in the least. Maybe he took the class after, maybe he took it before, maybe he was trying to fit in with a group of people that were already voting for him and he was trying to make a point and exaggerated a bit. I have no clue.
Every girl I have ever hooked up with was a perfect 10
Come on now. We all watched the video. Security guard (head security guard or not) does not equal an executive for an oil company
Thank you! I was trying to figure out what I had missed. Let's also remember E.V. wasn't on the witness stand.
-Eddie Vedder, "Smile"
Seriously?
SMH :roll:
Eddie probably knows his work history better than any reporter, author or wikipedia writer
"I need your strength for me to be strong...I need your love to feel loved"
Is the Federal govt capable of taking care of it's people without huge deficits
and rising taxation?
Is the current administration attempting to raise the number of those on aid
instead of working to get them off aid?
Are social programs being abused?
Is the growing mindset one of entitlement?
I am proposing putting the care of the needy back into the hands of the people.
Not no care, no help.... just little Federal help.
Many on aid and those who's paychecks come indirectly through these programs
don't want change. They fear change.
What should be feared is a 16 trillion dollar deficit
and growing to 20 trillion in a few more years.
In my household we have removed the credit option.
We live on little, on cash and are paying down past thrills and frills.
This is what our country must do before the hole becomes a sink hole.
Is that easy ... no.
Keep tax dollars in peoples pockets, give power back to the states, business
and people. Allow them to all help each other and take responsibility
for our country. This country does not belong to the federal government.
It was not designed to have a government that owns it's people most
especially not out of need.
The needy have no power...
is this the eventuality we are looking at?
I say let them expire, it will be tough for a bit , but we've struggled through this far havent we? We can make it through this too..
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14