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Haha, thanks bro (PJ_Soul). Jean - some people might meet the guy ten times and have one thing signed each time, but most likely this might be my only chance to ever meet him (and thus far first chance meeting someone from PJ). It's certainly not uncommon from what I've seen. I asked him to personalize it, so it's obviously not for resale. They've purposely been coming out after shows to meet and greet, take photos, sign stuff. It's not like I hounded him on the street.
PJ_Soul, Bowery was maybe 2/3 full, but I felt a good vibe nonetheless. The people up front were digging it for sure, a few even seemed to know the lyrics. I don't go for every sideband so I shouldn't expect every PJ-related show to sell out, but RNDM is good and people are missing out! I also had the good fortune of catching Joseph Arthur this summer, so I knew what it might be like.0 -
Great show! Though turnout was disappointing, the band rocked it... Anyone on the fence about these shows needs to go, well worth the money. Joseph Arthur is a true talent, Jeff killed it, and Richard was boss! Might have stolen the show (which is saying a lot, as Pearl Jam is my favourite band and Joseph one of my favourite songwriters).
@PJ_Soul... not a lot of people there (though kind of predictable, as there weten't many at Joseph Arthur here at folk-fest a few years back)... But it was great.Believe me, when I was growin up, I thought the worst thing you could turn out to be was normal, So I say freaks in the most complementary way. Here's a song by a fellow freak - E.V0 -
ceska wrote:Haha, thanks bro (PJ_Soul). Jean - some people might meet the guy ten times and have one thing signed each time, but most likely this might be my only chance to ever meet him (and thus far first chance meeting someone from PJ). It's certainly not uncommon from what I've seen. I asked him to personalize it, so it's obviously not for resale. They've purposely been coming out after shows to meet and greet, take photos, sign stuff. It's not like I hounded him on the street.
It's gluttony, and I'm disgusted that people actually bother the musicians to satisfy their gluttonous, selfish needs. 1 was't enough for you, huh? Disgusting. Like I said, the musicians are on to you guys, as I was seeing for myself last night.0 -
Jeanwah wrote:ceska wrote:Haha, thanks bro (PJ_Soul). Jean - some people might meet the guy ten times and have one thing signed each time, but most likely this might be my only chance to ever meet him (and thus far first chance meeting someone from PJ). It's certainly not uncommon from what I've seen. I asked him to personalize it, so it's obviously not for resale. They've purposely been coming out after shows to meet and greet, take photos, sign stuff. It's not like I hounded him on the street.
It's gluttony, and I'm disgusted that people actually bother the musicians to satisfy their gluttonous, selfish needs. 1 was't enough for you, huh? Disgusting. Like I said, the musicians are on to you guys, as I was seeing for myself last night.With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0 -
PJ_Soul wrote:Jeanwah wrote:ceska wrote:Haha, thanks bro (PJ_Soul). Jean - some people might meet the guy ten times and have one thing signed each time, but most likely this might be my only chance to ever meet him (and thus far first chance meeting someone from PJ). It's certainly not uncommon from what I've seen. I asked him to personalize it, so it's obviously not for resale. They've purposely been coming out after shows to meet and greet, take photos, sign stuff. It's not like I hounded him on the street.
It's gluttony, and I'm disgusted that people actually bother the musicians to satisfy their gluttonous, selfish needs. 1 was't enough for you, huh? Disgusting. Like I said, the musicians are on to you guys, as I was seeing for myself last night.
Well, I see no reason for not calling out injustices. Especially hearing what I heard Joseph say, so consider me to be on the side of the musicians. And obviously you didn't read this thread: viewtopic.php?f=13&t=1982670 -
PJ_Soul wrote:Jeanwah wrote:ceska wrote:Haha, thanks bro (PJ_Soul). Jean - some people might meet the guy ten times and have one thing signed each time, but most likely this might be my only chance to ever meet him (and thus far first chance meeting someone from PJ). It's certainly not uncommon from what I've seen. I asked him to personalize it, so it's obviously not for resale. They've purposely been coming out after shows to meet and greet, take photos, sign stuff. It's not like I hounded him on the street.
It's gluttony, and I'm disgusted that people actually bother the musicians to satisfy their gluttonous, selfish needs. 1 was't enough for you, huh? Disgusting. Like I said, the musicians are on to you guys, as I was seeing for myself last night.
Let me guess, you're one of these gluttonous, people, no? You obviously feel the need to justify hoarding autographs and getting as much as one can off our idols?0 -
Yes, we were all really bothering them at the merchandise table where they were trying to sell stuff, like burglar masks, wristbands and five different shirts... How awful and gluttonous.
I'm guessing you didn't wake up on the wrong side of bed, but are like that every day, and you seem proud of your history of calling people out - seems like the world around you is having a good time and you're not. Enjoy the rest of your night continuing to be miserable.
Jeff and I had a nice, albeit very brief, chat about photography and his album art prompted by the CD covers. Richard and Joe were plentiful with their time, Richard even gave me more time than I expected. It wasn't a hit and run deal. Everybody there was grateful to meet the guys, and they appreciated the interest people showed.0 -
Jeanwah wrote:PJ_Soul wrote:Jeanwah wrote:
It's gluttony, and I'm disgusted that people actually bother the musicians to satisfy their gluttonous, selfish needs. 1 was't enough for you, huh? Disgusting. Like I said, the musicians are on to you guys, as I was seeing for myself last night.
Well, I see no reason for not calling out injustices. Especially hearing what I heard Joseph say, so consider me to be on the side of the musicians. And obviously you didn't read this thread: viewtopic.php?f=13&t=198267
To those responding about the crowds... thanks for the update. That's really a shame about the lack of crowds; mostly I feel bad for the band. It has to be a let down for them, not to mention a financial hit, assuming they hoped the tour would pay for itself and then some. I wonder if Jeff didn't seem happy because of the lack of people?? I'm glad that those who went were into it, but a less than full crowd has got to get to him after a bit. I hope word spreads fast, and the crowds grow as they go along.With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0 -
Jeanwah wrote:PJ_Soul wrote:Jeanwah wrote:
It's gluttony, and I'm disgusted that people actually bother the musicians to satisfy their gluttonous, selfish needs. 1 was't enough for you, huh? Disgusting. Like I said, the musicians are on to you guys, as I was seeing for myself last night.
Let me guess, you're one of these gluttonous, people, no? You obviously feel the need to justify hoarding autographs and getting as much as one can off our idols?Post edited by PJ_Soul onWith all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0 -
ceska wrote:Yes, we were all really bothering them at the merchandise table where they were trying to sell stuff, like burglar masks, wristbands and five different shirts... How awful and gluttonous.
I'm guessing you didn't wake up on the wrong side of bed, but are like that every day, and you seem proud of your history of calling people out - seems like the world around you is having a good time and you're not. Enjoy the rest of your night continuing to be miserable.
Jeff and I had a nice, albeit very brief, chat about photography and his album art prompted by the CD covers. Richard and Joe were plentiful with their time, Richard even gave me more time than I expected. It wasn't a hit and run deal. Everybody there was grateful to meet the guys, and they appreciated the interest people showed.With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0 -
I can only speak for myself, I went to two shows and they were a lot of fun. It is what it is, a fun side project with a quick tour put together. The guys look like they're having a blast and still working through songs and I was totally impressed with the 3 of them as musicians. It's obvious that this wasn't put together for stadiums, they just want to get out there and play so I'm not surprised that the crowds are a little thinner.
I'm grateful that they came up here at all. The crowd was great in Montreal I thought and there were a respectable amount of people for a club show, the band totally rocked. Ottawa was a different vibe because they weren't actually playing a club, they played a college for some weird reason and it wasn't well advertised, but it was still unique and special. They switched up the setlist entirely from the night before which was a nice touch. There were a handful of people outside and Jeff came out on his own and willingly signed a few things for people and said hi then the drummer came out to chat, it was freezing out though so it was brief but very cool. People just want to say hi, I have absolutely nothing negative to say at all. It was way lower key than an Ed show and people were actually respectful enough, unlike an Ed show, to not scream out disrespectful shit, or scream out for PJ songs or get so loaded all they can do is sit there and ruin it for the people around them. So yeah, good fun times. Good music.0 -
Cosmic Slop wrote:I can only speak for myself, I went to two shows and they were a lot of fun. It is what it is, a fun side project with a quick tour put together. The guys look like they're having a blast and still working through songs and I was totally impressed with the 3 of them as musicians. It's obvious that this wasn't put together for stadiums, they just want to get out there and play so I'm not surprised that the crowds are a little thinner.
I'm grateful that they came up here at all. The crowd was great in Montreal I thought and there were a respectable amount of people for a club show, the band totally rocked. Ottawa was a different vibe because they weren't actually playing a club, they played a college for some weird reason and it wasn't well advertised, but it was still unique and special. They switched up the setlist entirely from the night before which was a nice touch. There were a handful of people outside and Jeff came out on his own and willingly signed a few things for people and said hi then the drummer came out to chat, it was freezing out though so it was brief but very cool. People just want to say hi, I have absolutely nothing negative to say at all. It was way lower key than an Ed show and people were actually respectful enough, unlike an Ed show, to not scream out disrespectful shit, or scream out for PJ songs or get so loaded all they can do is sit there and ruin it for the people around them. So yeah, good fun times. Good music.
cool post!
i love that some music is just meant for clubs. being up close, watching the smiles and seeing them sweat(lol)...it's such an important part of rock n roll, for me. i just can't live without club shows
rndm, i'm sure, are not setting out to want to play 15000 seat arenas
and for that thought alone, i love jeff et all. they are in it for the love of music FIRST
it should be that simple.
THANKYOUJEFF is all i can say
sooo happy about rndm
RNDM - Hollow Girl (Philly) 11-4-12
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E52mH3p3Hb8
thanks to whomever posted this video!!!0 -
PJ_Soul wrote:Joseph Arthur's tour blog. It is outrageously interesting!!
And all the photos are outstanding.
http://josepharthur.tumblr.com/
thanks for posting this link!0 -
helplessdancer wrote:Cosmic Slop wrote:I can only speak for myself, I went to two shows and they were a lot of fun. It is what it is, a fun side project with a quick tour put together. The guys look like they're having a blast and still working through songs and I was totally impressed with the 3 of them as musicians. It's obvious that this wasn't put together for stadiums, they just want to get out there and play so I'm not surprised that the crowds are a little thinner.
I'm grateful that they came up here at all. The crowd was great in Montreal I thought and there were a respectable amount of people for a club show, the band totally rocked. Ottawa was a different vibe because they weren't actually playing a club, they played a college for some weird reason and it wasn't well advertised, but it was still unique and special. They switched up the setlist entirely from the night before which was a nice touch. There were a handful of people outside and Jeff came out on his own and willingly signed a few things for people and said hi then the drummer came out to chat, it was freezing out though so it was brief but very cool. People just want to say hi, I have absolutely nothing negative to say at all. It was way lower key than an Ed show and people were actually respectful enough, unlike an Ed show, to not scream out disrespectful shit, or scream out for PJ songs or get so loaded all they can do is sit there and ruin it for the people around them. So yeah, good fun times. Good music.
cool post!
i love that some music is just meant for clubs. being up close, watching the smiles and seeing them sweat(lol)...it's such an important part of rock n roll, for me. i just can't live without club shows
rndm, i'm sure, are not setting out to want to play 15000 seat arenas
and for that thought alone, i love jeff et all. they are in it for the love of music FIRST
it should be that simple.
THANKYOUJEFF is all i can say
sooo happy about rndm
RNDM - Hollow Girl (Philly) 11-4-12
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E52mH3p3Hb8
thanks to whomever posted this video!!!With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0 -
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Don't get me wrong - I LOVE small club venues! It's the reason I chose to go see them instead of Springsteen the night they're in town! I wasn't asking about the crowds because I want a massive one, and of course it's nothing like an EV or PJ show; I don't think anyone on the face of the planet would be expecting or hoping for that ... it's just that a small venue that is half empty is another story again. I was hoping people would be stoked enough about this great trio for their intimate shows to sell out, or at least get closer to it. I'm sure the band wishes that were so; of course they do. It cannot be easy to arrange an tour, work really hard on promotion, and then only sell half of the tickets. That will get to these guys; they're not a garage band with low expectations; they do still care about their expectations being met and about people wanting to see their shows. I'm not trying to be a bummer here; just being realistic and honest about it. I am glad those going Are enjoying it; that .makes me feel better. But it would be nice if the club venues were filling up, obviously! I really hope the turn out is stronger in the west![/quote]
I hear you on this, I'm sure the guys would love to see the place packed, but besides one brief mention on local radio yesterday the ONLY place i've seen RNDM advertised is through this forum and a PJ email that went out I believe. So if their goal was for more people then this particular forum is probably not the best place to advertise. I know way more pj fans who don't come here than do. It's a quick turnaround with the album, promotion, tour. Just from what I saw, the guys looked happy and were having fun so I wouldn't worry about it too much0 -
Cosmic Slop wrote:I can only speak for myself, I went to two shows and they were a lot of fun. It is what it is, a fun side project with a quick tour put together. The guys look like they're having a blast and still working through songs and I was totally impressed with the 3 of them as musicians. It's obvious that this wasn't put together for stadiums, they just want to get out there and play so I'm not surprised that the crowds are a little thinner.
I'm grateful that they came up here at all. The crowd was great in Montreal I thought and there were a respectable amount of people for a club show, the band totally rocked. Ottawa was a different vibe because they weren't actually playing a club, they played a college for some weird reason and it wasn't well advertised, but it was still unique and special. They switched up the setlist entirely from the night before which was a nice touch. There were a handful of people outside and Jeff came out on his own and willingly signed a few things for people and said hi then the drummer came out to chat, it was freezing out though so it was brief but very cool. People just want to say hi, I have absolutely nothing negative to say at all. It was way lower key than an Ed show and people were actually respectful enough, unlike an Ed show, to not scream out disrespectful shit, or scream out for PJ songs or get so loaded all they can do is sit there and ruin it for the people around them. So yeah, good fun times. Good music.
As far as the merch/autograph issue raised, get real. THEY VOLUNTARILY MANNED THE MERCH STAND. If they want a 'one item per fan' rule, they'll enforce it. I was also leaning on the stage right next to Ceska for the entire show, but not with him afterwards. Obviously, I have no way of knowing someone from a hour or so of bullshitting with each other before the warm-up and between sets, but I really don't get the sense that he was going to be, overtly or covertly, an opportunistic douche taking advantage of the band afterwards. I've been brought backstage a couple of times by roadies to get autographs (and ONLY autographs, ya' pervs :P )... I've gone to the merch stands and not bought things and still gotten autographs. Bottom line, musicians at that level of success, or lack thereof, 'get' it, and they LIKE happy fans. They're often grateful for people coming out, and are happy to schmooze and sign an extra piece or two. And they're not shy... if they can get onstage every night, they can say "move along... I'm only signing one piece." Ceska was NOT bringing 10 baseballs to Derek Jeter that he was putting on ebay as soon as he got them signed. Give it a rest.Last Philly Spectrum Show - Halloween 2009
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Cosmic Slop wrote:PJ_Soul wrote:Don't get me wrong - I LOVE small club venues! It's the reason I chose to go see them instead of Springsteen the night they're in town! I wasn't asking about the crowds because I want a massive one, and of course it's nothing like an EV or PJ show; I don't think anyone on the face of the planet would be expecting or hoping for that ... it's just that a small venue that is half empty is another story again. I was hoping people would be stoked enough about this great trio for their intimate shows to sell out, or at least get closer to it. I'm sure the band wishes that were so; of course they do. It cannot be easy to arrange an tour, work really hard on promotion, and then only sell half of the tickets. That will get to these guys; they're not a garage band with low expectations; they do still care about their expectations being met and about people wanting to see their shows. I'm not trying to be a bummer here; just being realistic and honest about it. I am glad those going Are enjoying it; that .makes me feel better. But it would be nice if the club venues were filling up, obviously! I really hope the turn out is stronger in the west!
I hear you on this, I'm sure the guys would love to see the place packed, but besides one brief mention on local radio yesterday the ONLY place i've seen RNDM advertised is through this forum and a PJ email that went out I believe. So if their goal was for more people then this particular forum is probably not the best place to advertise. I know way more pj fans who don't come here than do. It's a quick turnaround with the album, promotion, tour. Just from what I saw, the guys looked happy and were having fun so I wouldn't worry about it too muchWith all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0 -
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They've actually been working fairly hard on promotion. They were on Jimmy Fallon, they've eagerly been doing several radio spots/interviews back east, in-store promos, blogging (Joseph is trying to get it out there on Twitter and FB a LOT) ... I actually think they are putting in quite an effort, and that suggests they would indeed be disappointed in the turn out. That you think they haven't really been promoting may be a pretty good sign telling them they need to change their tactics... the best thing for them would be getting at least one song into heavy radio play, and that obviously hasn't happened.[/quote]
That's very true on Kimmel and Twitter, but then you're probably like me where you're connected everywhere on the social sites and the net. I'm always surprised/annoyed at people who ask me where I get my info and I think um duh, it's everywhere! I forget though that not everyone is connected online, some people still rely on radio for discovering new music or whatever they do, I don't know. Whose to say really why every PJ fan in the vicinity didn't descend on these shows, but to tell you the truth it made it a little more special for me. You know what it is actually? I think this is the first time I went to something PJ related that wasn't stressful! I didn't have to f5 for tickets or any of the other hoopla that goes into seeing PJ which is totally fun don't get me wrong, but it's always an ordeal. This was just like going to a local show and the band ended up being really good...and the bassist just so happens to be in a band that you've followed for 20 years lol. So weird.
Touring out of the way places is also a great form of promotion, it's so old school. They're building great buzz, I'm way more inclined to love a new band who comes up to my city for a tour than a hit on the radio and a major city tour IMO.0 -
Cosmic Slop wrote:PJ_Soul wrote:They've actually been working fairly hard on promotion. They were on Jimmy Fallon, they've eagerly been doing several radio spots/interviews back east, in-store promos, blogging (Joseph is trying to get it out there on Twitter and FB a LOT) ... I actually think they are putting in quite an effort, and that suggests they would indeed be disappointed in the turn out. That you think they haven't really been promoting may be a pretty good sign telling them they need to change their tactics... the best thing for them would be getting at least one song into heavy radio play, and that obviously hasn't happened.
That's very true on Kimmel and Twitter, but then you're probably like me where you're connected everywhere on the social sites and the net. I'm always surprised/annoyed at people who ask me where I get my info and I think um duh, it's everywhere! I forget though that not everyone is connected online, some people still rely on radio for discovering new music or whatever they do, I don't know. Whose to say really why every PJ fan in the vicinity didn't descend on these shows, but to tell you the truth it made it a little more special for me. You know what it is actually? I think this is the first time I went to something PJ related that wasn't stressful! I didn't have to f5 for tickets or any of the other hoopla that goes into seeing PJ which is totally fun don't get me wrong, but it's always an ordeal. This was just like going to a local show and the band ended up being really good...and the bassist just so happens to be in a band that you've followed for 20 years lol. So weird.
Touring out of the way places is also a great form of promotion, it's so old school. They're building great buzz, I'm way more inclined to love a new band who comes up to my city for a tour than a hit on the radio and a major city tour IMO.I don't care about how hard it might be to find a ticket at all because it's so worth it. But I'm all for out of the way venues and stuff though... I simply wish their little venues were sold out. It's not that much to wish for. They're playing in places with only 350 person capacities. It's not like I'm wishing they'd play major venues. Just that they could sell 300 or 400 tickets a show. I am surprised they aren't managing it. You're right, I am way more plugged in that most people when it comes to music and Jeff Ament (Jimmy Fallon is massive, so that's a huge reach) ... but 300, 400 people? That isn't very many people even for a band like theirs, especially for the major cities they're playing in. There are 10s of 1000s of people at least as plugged in as me (manyvway way more so) in any larger city, and only so many shows to go to on a given night. I just hope the great venue they're playing in Vancouver is full! Might be even tougher though - Springsteen is playing that night. Oops!! That might have been slightly poor planning! And I wonder what the turn out will be like in Seattle? They're playing 2 nights there. Perhaps the west coast is catching on to them more... that happens all the time (or vice versa).
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0
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