Pearl Jam to play Oracle OpenWorld

Black Diamond

Dr. Delight wrote:

Sadly, this isnt and really shouldnt be all that shocking to any of you.
We've seen this coming on the horizon. Each year, farther and farther away the band that used to operate by a different set of rules.
I have prepared myself for this over the past 10 yrs. It is what it is.

To be honest, the future is most likely to be even more of a head scratcher.

Private concert for the Syrian royal family? With Mariah Carey and Beyonce?
Sun City?

Gary Carter

Mikee J wrote:

Gary Carter wrote:

Mikee J wrote:

I think its perfectly reasonable that some fans find it odd that Pearl Jam, a band that has stood against the corporate world in the past, will be playing a semi-private corporate event for one of the biggest corporate companies in the world.

Its not a case of ownership of the band, its a case of it being weird. One of the main reasons many of us fell for this band was not only their music but their outlook on the world and this event appears not to correlate with the PJ we all knew in the past.

Sure, times change, people grow up and their priorities change. But do PJ NEED to do this? Probably not.

So it must be weird to see pj play festivals that are sponsored by big corp or is that ok cause fans can get tix unlike this corporate event??

This is a good point, and I have never been a big fan of the big corporate festivals (Glastonbury is the greatest fest in the world, no question).That is also a sign of the times and yes, the issue of fan access is important. However, PJ have chosen to appear at this event, and it is not part of a tour as such. I think if you go down the "they always play to the corporate crowd" route they will never play live again. This is different and like I said before, a bit weird. Good luck to them. But they should bot be surprised at a few raised eyebrows.

very good points, but to me this is nothing different than playing for target a few years ago or a festival. It's just a quick cash grab for the band just like festivals. The band isn't gonna start to play corporate events. People on here were worried when ed played the oracle party few years ago that was gonna happen and the band is still touring.

YieldToNothing

SolarWorld wrote:

Man its like IQ points just fall out of people's heads on this message board. Is it really THAT hard for all of you to understand? You people really dont get it? There are more than 5 people in Pearl Jam, Pearl Jam LLC costs a lot of money to run, if a company (Ed has personal ties to someone at Oracle, a fact that most people here cant put their little minds around) like Oracle offers a fat payday for you during your "festival" year, in this economy where no one buys music anymore, you fucking take it! And you dont think twice about what a bunch of spoiled keyboard warriors are going to think about it when you know you have food to put on the table and employees counting on you. Everyone that has an issue with this has no idea what it costs to run a huge business, much less have any idea what a 40% tax return looks like. Get a clue and shut up... there is the door.

Again, Pearl Jam fans have gotten LAME.

this, this and this

100% on point

honeslty, everyone whining should just stop bitching and let their shit lapse

instead, they'll continue to whine and keep spending money on the band

Mikee J

SolarWorld wrote:

Man its like IQ points just fall out of people's heads on this message board. Is it really THAT hard for all of you to understand? You people really dont get it? There are more than 5 people in Pearl Jam, Pearl Jam LLC costs a lot of money to run, if a company (Ed has personal ties to someone at Oracle, a fact that most people here cant put their little minds around) like Oracle offers a fat payday for you during your "festival" year, in this economy where no one buys music anymore, you fucking take it! And you dont think twice about what a bunch of spoiled keyboard warriors are going to think about it when you know you have food to put on the table and employees counting on you. Everyone that has an issue with this has no idea what it costs to run a huge business, much less have any idea what a 40% tax return looks like. Get a clue and shut up... there is the door.

Again, Pearl Jam fans have gotten LAME.

Wow. Goodbye.

UpSideDown

Good lord what are they thinking anymore

High Fidelity 2000

SolarWorld wrote:

And you dont think twice about what a bunch of spoiled keyboard warriors are going to think about it when you know you have food to put on the table and employees counting on you.

Ding ding ding, finally someone mentions that the band has to put food on the table! Irony-free, even! Cracks me up every time.

This band has an easier time feeding their families and paying their mortgages than any of the rest of us... that excuse... so funny.

dimitrispearljam

JimmyV wrote:

Mikee J wrote:

I think its perfectly reasonable that some fans find it odd that Pearl Jam, a band that has stood against the corporate world in the past, will be playing a semi-private corporate event for one of the biggest corporate companies in the world.

Its not a case of ownership of the band, its a case of it being weird. One of the main reasons many of us fell for this band was not only their music but their outlook on the world and this event appears not to correlate with the PJ we all knew in the past.

Sure, times change, people grow up and their priorities change. But do PJ NEED to do this? Probably not.

Some good points here.

true .i agree..

and ..yes...why pj need to do this???

the price is crazy...there is no way even i had the money to pay this price..
to all things there are limits..this cross those limits..

SolarWorld

Shocker to most of you, Ed has really rich friends, some of them work at Oracle. Maybe they asked him a favor with a big check and a charity in mind. PJ has always given money away, why would you all assume some of this coin wouldn't end up in someone's hands that needs it?

WhyNotSweden

Lament wrote:

Do you think this will get an official mention on the site, or is this something they're gonna try to brush under the table?

To late for that now

dimitrispearljam

norm wrote:

they wanna play corporate gigs for $$$? awesome, go for it...i was never one that cared about their social or political stances...i'm here for the music

yes..i agree..

skanji32

Guys, by PJ doing this one show, we will not have to pay membership fees for 20 years...right?? right??
:corn:
:fp:
:nono:

StillHere

Disappointing
Everyone deserves to make a living
But those of us who eke out a living can't afford to see our fav band any more..at least not like we used to
I have admired Pearl Jam and the band members for so long and one of the biggest reasons was because of their ideals and refusal to cop out to corporate america
keeping it green, keeping it real, keeping it down to earth. keeping it you and me
Things have so changed.
I feel as if I've been mislead all along .....disillusioned is the word.

RW81233

what happened to the power of NO :nono: ? I'm interested to see what they do/play before I get really upset. The Target thing is less upsetting to me, because they provided options to the fans to get distribution in at local music stores. Sometimes you have to play the game from within - but we'll see. If the setlist is all unicorns and rainbows i'm out.

StillHere

QUOTE From Oracle

" Pearl Jam rose from the ashes of '80s Pacific Northwest combos Green River and Mother Love Bone. For the past twenty years, the band has remained a major force in rock and roll, as much for its aggressive loyalty to its social and political principles and restless experimentation as for its rock radio staples and bestselling albums. Throughout their two decades together, the band's independent spirit has set them apart from other bands, leaving the record studios behind to produce the music they want. "




They might want to think about that.

SolarWorld

High Fidelity 2000 wrote:

SolarWorld wrote:

And you dont think twice about what a bunch of spoiled keyboard warriors are going to think about it when you know you have food to put on the table and employees counting on you.

Ding ding ding, finally someone mentions that the band has to put food on the table! Irony-free, even! Cracks me up every time.

This band has an easier time feeding their families and paying their mortgages than any of the rest of us... that excuse... so funny.

Class warfare. Great... hopefully your simple train of though can follow.

So I am going to bet I have more money than you. In fact it's guaranteed. Now I also have a wife, a kid, a mortgage(s), property taxes, income taxes, business expenses, and yes "food" has to be put on the table. In your uninformed world you think I have an "easier" time paying my bills because I have more money than you do. It's one of the most uninformed idea that people have about class. Yes I can afford more crap than you can but I also have to pay for more crap. I dont even run a multi million dollar business, with 6 figure expenses and tax bills.

Hopefully when you are done "cracking up" you can see how simple you are being.

"Rich" people should stop making money, they can afford everything!"

OK buddy...

Black Diamond

RW81233 wrote:

what happened to the power of NO :nono: ? I'm interested to see what they do/play before I get really upset. The Target thing is less upsetting to me, because they provided options to the fans to get distribution in at local music stores. Sometimes you have to play the game from within - but we'll see. If the setlist is all unicorns and rainbows i'm out.

So if they play Dirty Frank... Revolution?

Hugh Freaking Dillon

I wouldn't give a shit if they played George Bush XIV's bar mitzvah.

SolarWorld

How many years you guys really think they have left? Who knows, but they have been one of the best bands ever. If anyone has run into these guys they are good dudes. 20 years is a long time. They deserve all this and more. Haters have no clue.

Hugh Freaking Dillon

I have never understood why people get so fucking bent out of shape over this stuff. And you wonder why Tim calls us assholes.

Black Diamond

Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:

I have never understood why people get so fucking bent out of shape over this stuff. And you wonder why Tim calls us assholes.

Speak for yourself... Tim calls me a douche bag.