It's everybody's fault. Most of our government is shit...
Thanks special interests.
What is a "special interest?"
That term always seems to be used as a catch-all for "people who aren't white, straight, Christian and at least upper-middle class."
Right, whereas issues that fall under the umbrella of 'National Interest' relate to anything that benefits the rich and powerful.
Welcome to the Orwellian World of the 21st century.
GLEN ALLEN, Va.-At the end of his first week on the stump, Paul Ryan said the current political environment is the "most partisan atmosphere" he's "ever seen" over the three administrations he's worked for.
"Remember the line, we're not red states, we're not blue states but we're the United States of America?" the vice presidential candidate said referring to President Obama. "I want to be a uniter, not a divider? I tell ya, I've served with three presidents since I have been in Congress, this is the most partisan atmosphere I have ever seen. This is not uniting, this is dividing."
Boy, I'm surprised he had the gall to even Bring that up, now that he's running for the party that made it its sole mission to pigeon hole Obama no matter what the consequences to the United States of America might be. He has real nerve making that statement. :fp:
It's really not any different from Republicans criticising Obama for not doing anything to boost the economy and help the unemployed, while conveniently not mentioning the fact that they blocked every effort by Obama to boost the economy and help the unemployed.
In both cases they rely on the supposed amnesia and gullibilty of the American people. It really just goes to show that they view the people of America with utter contempt.
I know the American language just fine. Again, raising income taxes on the super wealthy is about the dumbest idea I have heard. Clearly, Mr. president doesn't understand how the truly wealthy live or earn more money.
(not to nitpick but "american" isn't a language. sorry. I had to mention that.)
I have to say that NOT taxing the people who have the money was the dumbest idea I've ever heard and for proof I offer you the last 10 years.
Giving tax cuts to billionaires for being "job creators" was dumb. Very dumb. Billionaires don't just randomly open businesses because they have a spare few million laying about. They don't spent any money they don't NEED to spend and they sock the rest of it away in bank accounts and forget about it.
So those tax cuts didn't create any jobs because there was no incentive for them to do anything with it other than put it in a bank in Switzerland. Which is what they did with it.
Not to nit pick but there is an "american" language. Go out into the genral public and you will hear it. It's a combination of all different cultures and languages spoken here in the US.
I'm still waiting on your defintion of "people who have the money". :corn:
I know the American language just fine. Again, raising income taxes on the super wealthy is about the dumbest idea I have heard. Clearly, Mr. president doesn't understand how the truly wealthy live or earn more money.
(not to nitpick but "american" isn't a language. sorry. I had to mention that.)
I have to say that NOT taxing the people who have the money was the dumbest idea I've ever heard and for proof I offer you the last 10 years.
Giving tax cuts to billionaires for being "job creators" was dumb. Very dumb. Billionaires don't just randomly open businesses because they have a spare few million laying about. They don't spent any money they don't NEED to spend and they sock the rest of it away in bank accounts and forget about it.
So those tax cuts didn't create any jobs because there was no incentive for them to do anything with it other than put it in a bank in Switzerland. Which is what they did with it.
Not to nit pick but there is an "american" language. Go out into the genral public and you will hear it. It's a combination of all different cultures and languages spoken here in the US.
I'm still waiting on your defintion of "people who have the money". :corn:
Zoso gets asked all the time what language he spoke when he was in Australia
"I need your strength for me to be strong...I need your love to feel loved"
I'm still waiting on your defintion of "people who have the money". :corn:
Which I'd happily give you, but I asked you first to point out those 50 "mainstream news sites" that you say would write that Paul Ryan didn't have an anti-gay voting record and show us the post that it seems that only you saw where I said that people "should" only take what they need and give the rest away.
Not to nit pick but there is an "american" language. Go out into the genral public and you will hear it. It's a combination of all different cultures and languages spoken here in the US.
And nit pick all you want. But there is no language called "American."
Although there is a set of dialects called "American English," but that's not a language. It's a set of dialects.
So someone who's been caught in about 10 BLATANT lies in the last week since his nomination and a Multi-multi-millionaire and possible billionaire (but we're not sure) against the guy who thinks that the rich should pay their share in taxes and the poor shouldn't suffer and die from strep throat...
and this is a "tough" election for you.
Well... you're just as brilliant and informed as I've always figured you are.
cheers.
You're not an Independent in the broadest sense ...
so filled with hate towards the conservatives, there is no question for you
at least this is how you present yourself in every thread.
Just easy peasy for you and those like this are least informed because their minds are made
before they learn a thing.
I am bright enough to know President Obama has failed... does he deserve four more...
maybe.
I'm bright enough to know there are filthy rich on both sides of this
and none of them want to pay taxes. The Democrats got their nonprofits, filthy rich,
the Republicans got their corporations, filthy rich.
Neither is for the people they are for the filthy rich.
One party pretends to be and pushes our country to broke with handouts
and taxes from the middle class.
The other party thinks when corporations are healthy our economy will be healthy
and people will be back to work.
This is hard election because I do not trust any of them more and more each year...
As bolded in red... I too have an opinion of you..
its not pretty in fact its pretty negative so I will not go there remembering...
if you can't say something nice shut the fuck up
I mean, don't say anything at all.
so filled with hate towards the conservatives, there is no question for you
Well when your family's rights and protections are voted away and your husband would be deported should the firm he works for go under, let's see how full of indecision you are.
While I wish I could be one of those airy-fairy love everyone, treat people well and they won't fuck you over types... uh, actually that's a lie, I'm glad I'm not one of them.
so filled with hate towards the conservatives, there is no question for you
Well when your family's rights and protections are voted away and your husband would be deported should the firm he works for go under, let's see how full of indecision you are.
While I wish I could be one of those airy-fairy love everyone, treat people well and they won't fuck you over types... uh, actually that's a lie, I'm glad I'm not one of them.
We are entrepreneurs...
employers, a microscopic corporation ...
our hearts lie in business and an economy that supports this.
Rights are voted away just as well under both parties.
Yes I can see you might never be "a love everyone treat people well" person,
as you put it, that is a struggle for us all
but you may wish you had tried more one day.
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I'm still waiting on your defintion of "people who have the money". :corn:
Which I'd happily give you, but I asked you first to point out those 50 "mainstream news sites" that you say would write that Paul Ryan didn't have an anti-gay voting record and show us the post that it seems that only you saw where I said that people "should" only take what they need and give the rest away.
You can try an manipulate what I said all I want. I NEVER said their were 50 news sites contradicting what is public record. Try reading it again or perhaps a reading comprehension class. That being said, I'm still waiting for your definition of "people with money" as from one of your other posts and most recently "people who have the money". :corn:
Not to nit pick but there is an "american" language. Go out into the genral public and you will hear it. It's a combination of all different cultures and languages spoken here in the US.
And nit pick all you want. But there is no language called "American."
Although there is a set of dialects called "American English," but that's not a language. It's a set of dialects.
You can call it what you want. If it makes you feel better and all warm and fuzzy on the inside to call it "American dialect" or "American English" than that's you. Enjoy.
I could find 50 other sources to contradict what was posted
So can you explain what you meant by that?
The spin in the article about him being homophobic and that's why he voted against it. Did anyone ever consider ANY other factors in that article? Nope. That website just wanted people to believe the only reason he voted against it was becasue he was a homophobe. Which is fair...it's a site for people of an alternative lifestyle. I'm sure I can find websites that detailed why he voted against it for several other reasons ie. economic, etc.
Again, I'm still waiting for your definition of people with the money? :corn:
You brought up the ridiculous point about someone having enough and should ditribute like this was Communist Russia or something
And I don't believe I've EVER said that. You insisted again that I said that in this post.
So please, oh great one... I'll happily tell you who "has the money" if you point out where I said that people "should" distribute their stuff to other people.
I've asked you few times and yet... you seem to be more interested in talking about... other things.
You brought up the ridiculous point about someone having enough and should ditribute like this was Communist Russia or something
And I don't believe I've EVER said that. You insisted again that I said that in this post.
So please, oh great one... I'll happily tell you who "has the money" if you point out where I said that people "should" distribute their stuff to other people.
I've asked you few times and yet... you seem to be more interested in talking about... other things.
what a conundrum.
You truly are a piece of work. Multiple and multiple posts complaining about the "people with money" yet you won't define your stance or what you mean. That's fine...guess you don't even fully understand what you mean...just spewing out your Democratic views without a thought?
So is lying during impeachment trials an acceptable lie? Let's try this one you stated. :corn:
You brought up the ridiculous point about someone having enough and should ditribute like this was Communist Russia or something
And I don't believe I've EVER said that. You insisted again that I said that in this post.
So please, oh great one... I'll happily tell you who "has the money" if you point out where I said that people "should" distribute their stuff to other people.
I've asked you few times and yet... you seem to be more interested in talking about... other things.
what a conundrum.
And the communist russia thing I said. I never said you said it. You truly do need a reading comprehension course. I used the word like...I neversaid you said it. Wow...just wow. :fp:
I'm more interested in if you think it's OK to lie about what someone said on the Pearl Jam forum so you can look like less of a fool.
And I'm taking it as a "yes," you think that.
Try reading it again or have someone explain it to you. Seriously. You can try and manipulate waht people say all you want...but then again you won't answer two simple questions without trying to spin shit around so I really wouldn't expect anything less.
You brought up the ridiculous point about someone having enough and should ditribute like this was Communist Russia or something
So... wait... what did you mean by saying "you brought up the ridiculous point..." then?
OH...
you were talking to the other voice in your head.
Sorry.
Talking with you is seriously like talking with a child who doesn't get their way. Just answer me this. WHat do you consider to be the "people with the money" and is lying during an impeachment hearing is aan cceptable lie. Please answer these questions? I'm truly dying to know. Please enlighten me. :corn:
you won't answer two simple questions without trying to spin shit around so I really wouldn't expect anything less.
This from the guy who refuses to link to articles he says he could "easily" find or a post where I said people "should" give what they don't need to other people.
We can do this all day, bud. I'll gladly tell you what I mean... but you know... I did kinda ask you first.
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Right, whereas issues that fall under the umbrella of 'National Interest' relate to anything that benefits the rich and powerful.
Welcome to the Orwellian World of the 21st century.
It's really not any different from Republicans criticising Obama for not doing anything to boost the economy and help the unemployed, while conveniently not mentioning the fact that they blocked every effort by Obama to boost the economy and help the unemployed.
In both cases they rely on the supposed amnesia and gullibilty of the American people. It really just goes to show that they view the people of America with utter contempt.
What does that mean? :?
Is this from the dictionary of Yoda?
I thought the correct term was; 'I have yet to decide'.
Not to nit pick but there is an "american" language. Go out into the genral public and you will hear it. It's a combination of all different cultures and languages spoken here in the US.
I'm still waiting on your defintion of "people who have the money". :corn:
"I need your strength for me to be strong...I need your love to feel loved"
Which I'd happily give you, but I asked you first to point out those 50 "mainstream news sites" that you say would write that Paul Ryan didn't have an anti-gay voting record and show us the post that it seems that only you saw where I said that people "should" only take what they need and give the rest away.
And nit pick all you want. But there is no language called "American."
Although there is a set of dialects called "American English," but that's not a language. It's a set of dialects.
so filled with hate towards the conservatives, there is no question for you
at least this is how you present yourself in every thread.
Just easy peasy for you and those like this are least informed because their minds are made
before they learn a thing.
I am bright enough to know President Obama has failed... does he deserve four more...
maybe.
I'm bright enough to know there are filthy rich on both sides of this
and none of them want to pay taxes. The Democrats got their nonprofits, filthy rich,
the Republicans got their corporations, filthy rich.
Neither is for the people they are for the filthy rich.
One party pretends to be and pushes our country to broke with handouts
and taxes from the middle class.
The other party thinks when corporations are healthy our economy will be healthy
and people will be back to work.
This is hard election because I do not trust any of them more and more each year...
As bolded in red... I too have an opinion of you..
its not pretty in fact its pretty negative so I will not go there remembering...
if you can't say something nice shut the fuck up
I mean, don't say anything at all.
it means I haven't made up my mind yet
Well when your family's rights and protections are voted away and your husband would be deported should the firm he works for go under, let's see how full of indecision you are.
While I wish I could be one of those airy-fairy love everyone, treat people well and they won't fuck you over types... uh, actually that's a lie, I'm glad I'm not one of them.
Sorry you would not have my vote for President
but there are some bright stars here.
We got talent for sure. Hope they are considering office.
employers, a microscopic corporation ...
our hearts lie in business and an economy that supports this.
Rights are voted away just as well under both parties.
Yes I can see you might never be "a love everyone treat people well" person,
as you put it,
that is a struggle for us all
but you may wish you had tried more one day.
Only one problem: the press would release the amount of time said candidate spends on a rock and roll forum and that would be the end for him or her.
Chadwick- I didn't know you were running. Got a VP choice yet? (hint, hint
-Eddie Vedder, "Smile"
You can try an manipulate what I said all I want. I NEVER said their were 50 news sites contradicting what is public record. Try reading it again or perhaps a reading comprehension class. That being said, I'm still waiting for your definition of "people with money" as from one of your other posts and most recently "people who have the money". :corn:
You can call it what you want. If it makes you feel better and all warm and fuzzy on the inside to call it "American dialect" or "American English" than that's you. Enjoy.
Can you please point me to a bill tabled by the democrats that supported voting away the rights of someone?
And every linguist in the world.
And anyone with a comprehension of the difference of a "language" and a "dialect."
Still waiting for your definition. Thanks. :corn:
Hm... interesting. So in reaction to this article, posted here by PJ_Soul, that just listed his public record of votes, you said...
So can you explain what you meant by that?
The spin in the article about him being homophobic and that's why he voted against it. Did anyone ever consider ANY other factors in that article? Nope. That website just wanted people to believe the only reason he voted against it was becasue he was a homophobe. Which is fair...it's a site for people of an alternative lifestyle. I'm sure I can find websites that detailed why he voted against it for several other reasons ie. economic, etc.
Again, I'm still waiting for your definition of people with the money? :corn:
Yes, I'm sure you are.
But like said... in this post, you said...
And I don't believe I've EVER said that. You insisted again that I said that in this post.
So please, oh great one... I'll happily tell you who "has the money" if you point out where I said that people "should" distribute their stuff to other people.
I've asked you few times and yet... you seem to be more interested in talking about... other things.
what a conundrum.
OK... and I think 50 was the number you said you could find.
So... where are they?
Don't let your mouth write checks that your brain can't cash. C'mon, big man... show us those sites. All 50 of 'em.
Even just a few?
You truly are a piece of work. Multiple and multiple posts complaining about the "people with money" yet you won't define your stance or what you mean. That's fine...guess you don't even fully understand what you mean...just spewing out your Democratic views without a thought?
So is lying during impeachment trials an acceptable lie? Let's try this one you stated. :corn:
Big man? Are you serioulsy that mentally challenged that you need to insult people. :? Please. :fp:
And I'm taking it as a "yes," you think that.
And the communist russia thing I said. I never said you said it. You truly do need a reading comprehension course. I used the word like...I neversaid you said it. Wow...just wow. :fp:
Still waiting for any of your answers. :corn:
Try reading it again or have someone explain it to you. Seriously. You can try and manipulate waht people say all you want...but then again you won't answer two simple questions without trying to spin shit around so I really wouldn't expect anything less.
Um... yeah... you did.
The direct quote...
So... wait... what did you mean by saying "you brought up the ridiculous point..." then?
OH...
you were talking to the other voice in your head.
Sorry.
Talking with you is seriously like talking with a child who doesn't get their way. Just answer me this. WHat do you consider to be the "people with the money" and is lying during an impeachment hearing is aan cceptable lie. Please answer these questions? I'm truly dying to know. Please enlighten me. :corn:
This from the guy who refuses to link to articles he says he could "easily" find or a post where I said people "should" give what they don't need to other people.
We can do this all day, bud. I'll gladly tell you what I mean... but you know... I did kinda ask you first.