If Ryan had proposed defense cuts as part of this plan, whoa man would Obama and Biden have been in trouble. But of course, he didn't do that.
Though I do wonder why we can't look at the plan as individual parts rather than a whole. It seems we are always looking for 1 guy to bring 100% to the table. That's not the way the government should even work. Not to mention, Ryan going out on a limb here shows he is willing to lead. Now, if the idiots in Washington could ever get over the "team game" concept and work towards solutions, Ryan's plan is a great source of information and opportunities.
Obama did present a budget. I would love for these ass holes to sit down together and work out a deal.
However, we have to look at the Ryan Budget as one thing because Ryan was a ringleader in bringing the country to the verge of default and to a credit downgrade. He (not Boehner) is the House Tea Party leader of "No Compromise" who refuses to make a deal with 10 cents of revenue increases for $1 of spending decreases. And the refusal to cut military spending goes along with all that.
Yeah, I would love to punch them all in the face as well.
Spectrum 10/27/09; New Orleans JazzFest 5/1/10; Made in America 9/2/12; Phila, PA 10/21/13; Phila, PA 10/22/13; Baltimore Arena 10/27/13; Phila, PA 4/28/16; Phila, PA 4/29/16; Fenway Park 8/7/16; Fenway Park 9/2/18; Asbury Park 9/18/21; Camden 9/14/22; Las Vegas 5/16/24; Las Vegas 5/18/24; Phila, PA 9/7/24; Phila, PA 9/9/24; Baltimore Arena 9/12/24
Tres Mtns - TLA 3/23/11; EV - Tower Theatre 6/25/11; Temple of the Dog - Tower Theatre 11/5/16
If Ryan had proposed defense cuts as part of this plan, whoa man would Obama and Biden have been in trouble. But of course, he didn't do that.
Though I do wonder why we can't look at the plan as individual parts rather than a whole. It seems we are always looking for 1 guy to bring 100% to the table. That's not the way the government should even work. Not to mention, Ryan going out on a limb here shows he is willing to lead. Now, if the idiots in Washington could ever get over the "team game" concept and work towards solutions, Ryan's plan is a great source of information and opportunities.
just because he's "willing to lead" doesn't automatically include "in the right direction"...
True, but I bet you its not 100% in the wrong direction...that;'s the problem, we think it's all or none.
This basically tells Obama supporters not to panic about any Ryan bounce.
I'm surprised the McCain-Palin bounce was only 4 points - it seemed like everything went their way for a week or so.
Spectrum 10/27/09; New Orleans JazzFest 5/1/10; Made in America 9/2/12; Phila, PA 10/21/13; Phila, PA 10/22/13; Baltimore Arena 10/27/13; Phila, PA 4/28/16; Phila, PA 4/29/16; Fenway Park 8/7/16; Fenway Park 9/2/18; Asbury Park 9/18/21; Camden 9/14/22; Las Vegas 5/16/24; Las Vegas 5/18/24; Phila, PA 9/7/24; Phila, PA 9/9/24; Baltimore Arena 9/12/24
Tres Mtns - TLA 3/23/11; EV - Tower Theatre 6/25/11; Temple of the Dog - Tower Theatre 11/5/16
By Paul Ryan
Candidate for Vice President of the United States
August 13, 2012 | ISSUE 48•33
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I'm Not One Of Those Insecure Generals Who Needs To Win A Lot Of Battles
Ho! Ho! Ho! I Am God
When Mitt Romney selected me as his running mate, I knew the Democratic attack dogs would come out in full force. They would say I’m a right-wing ideologue. They would say my views on entitlement programs are far too radical. They would say putting me on the ticket immediately kills Mitt Romney’s chances of becoming president because I’m a liability. But if we’re being honest with each other—if we’re able to put aside the talking points for a few minutes and say what we’re all actually thinking and feeling—I believe we can acknowledge the real truth here.
I’m young, I’m handsome, I’m smart, and I’m articulate. And that scares the ever-loving shit out of you. You can pretend like you have this thing in the bag, but you know good goddamn well that this race just got real interesting, real fast.
It’s okay to admit it. You’re frightened to death of me. It might actually be healthy for you to face your fears now rather than later, when Mitt and I are leading by a few points in the polls and it looks like this thing might end badly for you. Face it: I’m not some catastrophe waiting to happen, like a Sarah Palin or a Dan Quayle. On the contrary, you have the exact opposite fear. I’m a solid, competent, some might say exceptional, politician.
Did you get nervous when you read that last sentence? Is it because you know in your heart of hearts that it’s 100 percent true? Is it because, even if you strongly disagree with my beliefs on Medicare, Social Security, women’s rights, and marriage equality, you know my talent as a speaker and my well-thought-out approach to these issues—no matter how radical and convoluted you find them—might just be enough to win over independent voters?
Do you get chills just thinking about how strong my appeal actually is?
I have another question for you: How scared are you that I can convince people I’m right? Because I’m good at it. No, I’m really good at it. You see, I know how to turn up the charm and charisma without putting people off. Then I back up what I’m saying with arguments that, when they come out of my mouth, sound completely accurate and well-reasoned. And I do it with such passion that people automatically recognize me as a man with deep convictions he will stand up for, no matter what.
The American people love that shit. They love it.
Passion, intellect, and a magnetic personality. Pretty damn intimidating combo, if I say so myself. You want to talk about polish? Man, I’ve got polish for miles. Oh, and by the way, I’ll go ahead and say this next thing because, if we’re being honest, why the hell not, right? In case you haven’t noticed, I’m white. Hoo, brother, am I white.
Yup, you should be scared shitless of me, because guess who isn’t? The people of Wisconsin. They love me. Republicans and Democrats there love me. Hell, I get Democrats to vote for me even if my policies make zero sense when it comes to their livelihoods. Do you know why? Because they like me. They like my story. Young, good-looking kid who pulled himself up by his bootstraps to make something of himself. Christ, I'm a storybook candidate. I balance out this ticket so well it’s almost too perfect. The people of Ohio are going to think that. And seniors in Florida—the state we supposedly lost when Mitt picked me—won’t be so scared as soon they know that my mother lives in Florida, and that all I want to do is reform the health care system so she can receive care that makes good fiscal sense.
Boy, I’m going to sell the shit out of that talking point. And I’m going to do a great job of it. Why? Because I’m Paul Ryan. That’s what I do.
And if we’re having trouble getting Pennsylvania on board, just wait until I absolutely wipe the floor with Joe Biden in the vice presidential debates. Don’t think for a second that I don’t know you’re terrified of us facing off, because in the back of your mind you know it could be a bloodbath up there.
Well, that’s 77 electoral votes, and by my math that means you can kiss your golden boy goodbye after four short years. All that promise. All that energy. All that potential. Gone in one November night.
I’m your worst fucking nightmare.
Oh, and by the way, don’t even try to pretend you haven’t imagined me being elected president one day.
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
Partial quote? Beginner you are. It shows his whole philosophy. It's not American.
Where are the patriots? What happened to my country?
Emoticons rule
"you didn't build this"
yes, "you didn't build that" is a partial quote and those that keep clinging to that did not see the entire speech or that entire section of the speech, or even the preceding 3 lines of the speech, or the three lines after that line, so yeah what you are saying is misguided. if you watch fox news, that is all they showed you...
the patriots are still here.. i just find it immature to constantly loudly cheer. my pride in this country is something i keep to myself. i love parts of it, but it is not above criticism from people who see it how it really is, not some sanitized jingoistic version of it...
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
Partial quote? Beginner you are. It shows his whole philosophy. It's not American.
Where are the patriots? What happened to my country?
Emoticons rule
"you didn't build this"
yes, "you didn't build that" is a partial quote and those that keep clinging to that did not see the entire speech or that entire section of the speech, or even the preceding 3 lines of the speech, or the three lines after that line, so yeah what you are saying is misguided. if you watch fox news, that is all they showed you...
the patriots are still here.. i just find it immature to constantly loudly cheer. my pride in this country is something i keep to myself. i love parts of it, but it is not above criticism from people who see it how it really is, not some sanitized jingoistic version of it...
whatever their politics , the ones who criticize the gov and its actions are the real patriots any way. They are acting as the founders had hoped we would.
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
whatever their politics , the ones who criticize the gov and its actions are the real patriots any way. They are acting as the founders had hoped we would.
Beautifully said and absolutely correct. That's a patriot to me... not going to war and dropping bombs.
that is one of the most awkward bro-downs i have ever seen...
Where's Willard's flag lapel? He hates America!!!
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Tres Mtns - TLA 3/23/11; EV - Tower Theatre 6/25/11; Temple of the Dog - Tower Theatre 11/5/16
He needs to transfer that lapel to his shirt, or at least wear a tie with stars & stripes.
Spectrum 10/27/09; New Orleans JazzFest 5/1/10; Made in America 9/2/12; Phila, PA 10/21/13; Phila, PA 10/22/13; Baltimore Arena 10/27/13; Phila, PA 4/28/16; Phila, PA 4/29/16; Fenway Park 8/7/16; Fenway Park 9/2/18; Asbury Park 9/18/21; Camden 9/14/22; Las Vegas 5/16/24; Las Vegas 5/18/24; Phila, PA 9/7/24; Phila, PA 9/9/24; Baltimore Arena 9/12/24
Tres Mtns - TLA 3/23/11; EV - Tower Theatre 6/25/11; Temple of the Dog - Tower Theatre 11/5/16
that is one of the most awkward bro-downs i have ever seen...
Where's Willard's flag lapel? He hates America!!!
lol, remember when this was a campaign issue in 2008? and when obama got elected he did not wear one and there was an uproar?
to me the whole concept of lapel pins is stupid. if i am running for office and have never worn one before yet i am suddenly supposed to wear one? we place odd demands on elected officials...
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
to me the whole concept of lapel pins is stupid. if i am running for office and have never worn one before yet i am suddenly supposed to wear one? we place odd demands on elected officials...
to me the whole concept of lapel pins is stupid. if i am running for office and have never worn one before yet i am suddenly supposed to wear one? we place odd demands on elected officials...
"I pledge allegiance, to the flag." :roll:
no i mean the whole concept of anybody anywhere wearing any sort of lapel pin is what seems dumb to me. it seems antiquated to me.
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
to me the whole concept of lapel pins is stupid. if i am running for office and have never worn one before yet i am suddenly supposed to wear one? we place odd demands on elected officials...
"I pledge allegiance, to the flag." :roll:
no i mean the whole concept of anybody anywhere wearing any sort of lapel pin is what seems dumb to me. it seems antiquated to me.
Yeah, it shouldn't matter... unless you really want to wear one.
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Tres Mtns - TLA 3/23/11; EV - Tower Theatre 6/25/11; Temple of the Dog - Tower Theatre 11/5/16
Willard wants to cut $444M of funding for PBS. Gonna be some pissed off little boys in my house if they can't watch their Dinosaur Train. :!:
This would cut about, oh, 0.03% of the national debt.
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Tres Mtns - TLA 3/23/11; EV - Tower Theatre 6/25/11; Temple of the Dog - Tower Theatre 11/5/16
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Tres Mtns - TLA 3/23/11; EV - Tower Theatre 6/25/11; Temple of the Dog - Tower Theatre 11/5/16
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Obama did present a budget. I would love for these ass holes to sit down together and work out a deal.
However, we have to look at the Ryan Budget as one thing because Ryan was a ringleader in bringing the country to the verge of default and to a credit downgrade. He (not Boehner) is the House Tea Party leader of "No Compromise" who refuses to make a deal with 10 cents of revenue increases for $1 of spending decreases. And the refusal to cut military spending goes along with all that.
Yeah, I would love to punch them all in the face as well.
Phila, PA 4/28/16; Phila, PA 4/29/16; Fenway Park 8/7/16; Fenway Park 9/2/18; Asbury Park 9/18/21; Camden 9/14/22;
Las Vegas 5/16/24; Las Vegas 5/18/24; Phila, PA 9/7/24; Phila, PA 9/9/24; Baltimore Arena 9/12/24
Tres Mtns - TLA 3/23/11; EV - Tower Theatre 6/25/11; Temple of the Dog - Tower Theatre 11/5/16
http://www.theonion.com/articles/ryan-b ... /?ref=auto
True, but I bet you its not 100% in the wrong direction...that;'s the problem, we think it's all or none.
the Fivethirtyeight is the best political analysis in terms of polling data and predicting election outcomes out there imho
http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/08/14/aug-14-the-fog-of-polling-and-ryans-bounce-so-far/
This basically tells Obama supporters not to panic about any Ryan bounce.
I'm surprised the McCain-Palin bounce was only 4 points - it seemed like everything went their way for a week or so.
Phila, PA 4/28/16; Phila, PA 4/29/16; Fenway Park 8/7/16; Fenway Park 9/2/18; Asbury Park 9/18/21; Camden 9/14/22;
Las Vegas 5/16/24; Las Vegas 5/18/24; Phila, PA 9/7/24; Phila, PA 9/9/24; Baltimore Arena 9/12/24
Tres Mtns - TLA 3/23/11; EV - Tower Theatre 6/25/11; Temple of the Dog - Tower Theatre 11/5/16
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By Paul Ryan
Candidate for Vice President of the United States
August 13, 2012 | ISSUE 48•33
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I'm Not One Of Those Insecure Generals Who Needs To Win A Lot Of Battles
Ho! Ho! Ho! I Am God
When Mitt Romney selected me as his running mate, I knew the Democratic attack dogs would come out in full force. They would say I’m a right-wing ideologue. They would say my views on entitlement programs are far too radical. They would say putting me on the ticket immediately kills Mitt Romney’s chances of becoming president because I’m a liability. But if we’re being honest with each other—if we’re able to put aside the talking points for a few minutes and say what we’re all actually thinking and feeling—I believe we can acknowledge the real truth here.
I’m young, I’m handsome, I’m smart, and I’m articulate. And that scares the ever-loving shit out of you. You can pretend like you have this thing in the bag, but you know good goddamn well that this race just got real interesting, real fast.
It’s okay to admit it. You’re frightened to death of me. It might actually be healthy for you to face your fears now rather than later, when Mitt and I are leading by a few points in the polls and it looks like this thing might end badly for you. Face it: I’m not some catastrophe waiting to happen, like a Sarah Palin or a Dan Quayle. On the contrary, you have the exact opposite fear. I’m a solid, competent, some might say exceptional, politician.
Did you get nervous when you read that last sentence? Is it because you know in your heart of hearts that it’s 100 percent true? Is it because, even if you strongly disagree with my beliefs on Medicare, Social Security, women’s rights, and marriage equality, you know my talent as a speaker and my well-thought-out approach to these issues—no matter how radical and convoluted you find them—might just be enough to win over independent voters?
Do you get chills just thinking about how strong my appeal actually is?
I have another question for you: How scared are you that I can convince people I’m right? Because I’m good at it. No, I’m really good at it. You see, I know how to turn up the charm and charisma without putting people off. Then I back up what I’m saying with arguments that, when they come out of my mouth, sound completely accurate and well-reasoned. And I do it with such passion that people automatically recognize me as a man with deep convictions he will stand up for, no matter what.
The American people love that shit. They love it.
Passion, intellect, and a magnetic personality. Pretty damn intimidating combo, if I say so myself. You want to talk about polish? Man, I’ve got polish for miles. Oh, and by the way, I’ll go ahead and say this next thing because, if we’re being honest, why the hell not, right? In case you haven’t noticed, I’m white. Hoo, brother, am I white.
Yup, you should be scared shitless of me, because guess who isn’t? The people of Wisconsin. They love me. Republicans and Democrats there love me. Hell, I get Democrats to vote for me even if my policies make zero sense when it comes to their livelihoods. Do you know why? Because they like me. They like my story. Young, good-looking kid who pulled himself up by his bootstraps to make something of himself. Christ, I'm a storybook candidate. I balance out this ticket so well it’s almost too perfect. The people of Ohio are going to think that. And seniors in Florida—the state we supposedly lost when Mitt picked me—won’t be so scared as soon they know that my mother lives in Florida, and that all I want to do is reform the health care system so she can receive care that makes good fiscal sense.
Boy, I’m going to sell the shit out of that talking point. And I’m going to do a great job of it. Why? Because I’m Paul Ryan. That’s what I do.
And if we’re having trouble getting Pennsylvania on board, just wait until I absolutely wipe the floor with Joe Biden in the vice presidential debates. Don’t think for a second that I don’t know you’re terrified of us facing off, because in the back of your mind you know it could be a bloodbath up there.
Well, that’s 77 electoral votes, and by my math that means you can kiss your golden boy goodbye after four short years. All that promise. All that energy. All that potential. Gone in one November night.
I’m your worst fucking nightmare.
Oh, and by the way, don’t even try to pretend you haven’t imagined me being elected president one day.
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
the patriots are still here.. i just find it immature to constantly loudly cheer. my pride in this country is something i keep to myself. i love parts of it, but it is not above criticism from people who see it how it really is, not some sanitized jingoistic version of it...
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
Beautifully said and absolutely correct. That's a patriot to me... not going to war and dropping bombs.
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
I don;t think it looks awkward. I guess it depend on what you are looking for.
Where's Willard's flag lapel? He hates America!!!
Phila, PA 4/28/16; Phila, PA 4/29/16; Fenway Park 8/7/16; Fenway Park 9/2/18; Asbury Park 9/18/21; Camden 9/14/22;
Las Vegas 5/16/24; Las Vegas 5/18/24; Phila, PA 9/7/24; Phila, PA 9/9/24; Baltimore Arena 9/12/24
Tres Mtns - TLA 3/23/11; EV - Tower Theatre 6/25/11; Temple of the Dog - Tower Theatre 11/5/16
You can;t see it, but he's wearing flag boxers and no pants!
On the jacket he isn't wearing.
He needs to transfer that lapel to his shirt, or at least wear a tie with stars & stripes.
Phila, PA 4/28/16; Phila, PA 4/29/16; Fenway Park 8/7/16; Fenway Park 9/2/18; Asbury Park 9/18/21; Camden 9/14/22;
Las Vegas 5/16/24; Las Vegas 5/18/24; Phila, PA 9/7/24; Phila, PA 9/9/24; Baltimore Arena 9/12/24
Tres Mtns - TLA 3/23/11; EV - Tower Theatre 6/25/11; Temple of the Dog - Tower Theatre 11/5/16
to me the whole concept of lapel pins is stupid. if i am running for office and have never worn one before yet i am suddenly supposed to wear one? we place odd demands on elected officials...
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
"I pledge allegiance, to the flag." :roll:
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
Yeah, it shouldn't matter... unless you really want to wear one.
Well, of course. And it has to be the American Flag if you want to be taken seriously.
"You didn't build that"
"Didn't Pay Taxes for 10 Years"
Woot
Phila, PA 4/28/16; Phila, PA 4/29/16; Fenway Park 8/7/16; Fenway Park 9/2/18; Asbury Park 9/18/21; Camden 9/14/22;
Las Vegas 5/16/24; Las Vegas 5/18/24; Phila, PA 9/7/24; Phila, PA 9/9/24; Baltimore Arena 9/12/24
Tres Mtns - TLA 3/23/11; EV - Tower Theatre 6/25/11; Temple of the Dog - Tower Theatre 11/5/16
This would cut about, oh, 0.03% of the national debt.
Phila, PA 4/28/16; Phila, PA 4/29/16; Fenway Park 8/7/16; Fenway Park 9/2/18; Asbury Park 9/18/21; Camden 9/14/22;
Las Vegas 5/16/24; Las Vegas 5/18/24; Phila, PA 9/7/24; Phila, PA 9/9/24; Baltimore Arena 9/12/24
Tres Mtns - TLA 3/23/11; EV - Tower Theatre 6/25/11; Temple of the Dog - Tower Theatre 11/5/16
really? I guess he should be in jail then. Where did you get this information?
gonna ride ride ride ride ride
the dinasaur train!
"You didn't Build that"
"You didn't build that"
Phila, PA 4/28/16; Phila, PA 4/29/16; Fenway Park 8/7/16; Fenway Park 9/2/18; Asbury Park 9/18/21; Camden 9/14/22;
Las Vegas 5/16/24; Las Vegas 5/18/24; Phila, PA 9/7/24; Phila, PA 9/9/24; Baltimore Arena 9/12/24
Tres Mtns - TLA 3/23/11; EV - Tower Theatre 6/25/11; Temple of the Dog - Tower Theatre 11/5/16
"You didn't Build that"