Let Your Voice Be Heard
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thanks for the 'boxing off' of the quotes, it's easier to see the quotes separated!
I'd like to see the background behind the quotes a different color...black or gray or something still feel the look is too...'generic' and 'blah' (reminds me of old skool AOL
The joy of life comes from our encounters with new experiences, and hence there is no greater joy than to have an endlessly changing horizon, for each day to have a new and different sun.
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Changes are interesting so far.Lollapalooza 92, Alpine Valley 11, De Luna 12, Wrigley/Pittsburgh/Dallas/OKC 13, Tulsa/Denver 14, Global 15, Wrigley 1/2 160
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So thank you yesterday for giving those that didn't get a chance at the free ride first crack at the clear version!
So the flipper thing is bugging me a bit. I think it's great you're addressing it, at least what you can control in the small flipping pj community.
However I think it's easy for you to do more, and you choose not to? Why not post in lost dogs your definition of flipping (is trading for a higher value item right away flipping? How long till I can sell at a higher price? etc...), then start revoking memberships of those that break it, like you say you are able to in every item you sell to members only. It also shouldn't be too hard to track down members on ebay who are flipping as well. Heck a lot of members would do it here for free and in their spare time.
It just bugs me because pj staff talk about hating flipping so much, but do nothing about it when it's really easy for you to do so. The only reason I can think of you not to do so is the time factor, or that you enjoy the membership money and don't want to revoke any memberships because you'll lose out on that cash...
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Another reason I can think of as to why 10C doesn't do something about it is because they aren't totalitarians.a5pj said:So thank you yesterday for giving those that didn't get a chance at the free ride first crack at the clear version!
So the flipper thing is bugging me a bit. I think it's great you're addressing it, at least what you can control in the small flipping pj community.
However I think it's easy for you to do more, and you choose not to? Why not post in lost dogs your definition of flipping (is trading for a higher value item right away flipping? How long till I can sell at a higher price? etc...), then start revoking memberships of those that break it, like you say you are able to in every item you sell to members only. It also shouldn't be too hard to track down members on ebay who are flipping as well. Heck a lot of members would do it here for free and in their spare time.
It just bugs me because pj staff talk about hating flipping so much, but do nothing about it when it's really easy for you to do so. The only reason I can think of you not to do so is the time factor, or that you enjoy the membership money and don't want to revoke any memberships because you'll lost out on that cash...With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0 -
True, but then stop making it look you care about people flipping. Unless they do that "support" the rest of fanbase. In reality in the PJ world it's a very small problem (tickets are another story), but either way 10C is selling out of the items they put up for sale and it's a win for them.PJ_Soul said:
Another reason I can think of as to why 10C doesn't do something about it is because they aren't totalitarians.a5pj said:
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Not trying to sound like a contrarian here, lol, but when does 10C actually act like they care about people flipping? There is a brief mention of it on the LD rules, kind of but non-specific. And once in a while they add in tiny print at the bottom of item descriptions that it's not intended for resale... but other than that, when has 10C showed us that they care about flipping?? They care a LOT about ticket scalping, and they make that VERY clear. But flipping is not something I've noticed the 10C really caring about at all. I would think that's because there is really nothing they can do about it, and have just accepted that we live in a free market system.a5pj said:
True, but then stop making it look you care about people flipping. Unless they do that "support" the rest of fanbase. In reality in the PJ world it's a very small problem (tickets are another story), but either way 10C is selling out of the items they put up for sale and it's a win for them.PJ_Soul said:
Another reason I can think of as to why 10C doesn't do something about it is because they aren't totalitarians.a5pj said:
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0 -
You're not a contrarian, I'm in complete agreement with you. I guess the comment in the free ride sale that got my gears grinding, and like you said they barely mention it in a few other places. (Then again, why mention it at all).PJ_Soul said:
Not trying to sound like a contrarian here, lol, but when does 10C actually act like they care about people flipping? There is a brief mention of it on the LD rules, kind of but non-specific. And once in a while they add in tiny print at the bottom of item descriptions that it's not intended for resale... but other than that, when has 10C showed us that they care about flipping?? They care a LOT about ticket scalping, and they make that VERY clear. But flipping is not something I've noticed the 10C really caring about at all. I would think that's because there is really nothing they can do about it, and have just accepted that we live in a free market system.a5pj said:
True, but then stop making it look you care about people flipping. Unless they do that "support" the rest of fanbase. In reality in the PJ world it's a very small problem (tickets are another story), but either way 10C is selling out of the items they put up for sale and it's a win for them.PJ_Soul said:
la5pj said:
Another reason I can think of as to why 10C doesn't do something about it is because they aren't totalitarians.
Guess I'm on here too much and just see all the b*tching about flippers.
Now one thing they do care about it the faithful ale, those threads get shut down quick! Guess it can actually come back to bite them. I'd like to see them shut down flipping threads for $ the same way the day after a sale I guess.
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RNDM played the new venue out of Napa last year,Called Bottle Rock. I'm hoping that the boy's could play there next year.
Plenty of wine.
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like the lights out......ajb0
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Next Phase for the Bootleg Phenomenon?.... 10C Bootleg Video's . You could sell as Downloads, DVD's, and special editions in Blu Ray,... even if it was one camera centered on the stage I would still dig it..
Forum / Website enhancements - 10C Member editable Home Page with unique address..10C Members Photo Gallery... 10C Tour World Map page with ability for members to check a show in a city they are going to..
Additions to the editable member home page I would like to see:
1 - Drop down menus for past and upcoming tour dates, so members can choose shows they've attended or plan to attend.
2 - Music collector menu - Members can choose from discography LP, CDs...etc.. they own.
I better stop... hahaha,,, not asking for much
Post edited by myoung321 on"The heart and mind are the true lens of the camera." - Yusuf Karsh
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A 10c show is a fantabulous idea, like a tiny tour for just us folk, wouldnt that be sweet? Maybe a fall season or winter even, a just for kicks tiny tour? The 10cc Tour! Tee Hee! Now keep in mind Im going to be back in San Jose Ca, soooo the Warfield in San Fran would be the PERFECT setting, I believe its a 250 seat venue! Tiny is always better, Betterman!0
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What about acepting paypal?
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"The heart and mind are the true lens of the camera." - Yusuf Karsh
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Yeah, that would be cool. I'd like to be able to use money I already have for tix and other 10C stuff instead of racking up my credit card.myoung321 said:
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0 -
"my drafts" is so frustrating.did you see me? i saw you.0
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This new feature of posting updated odds during the lottery selection is a fantastic idea.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0 -
Please tell us if there will be anymore shows.10-18-2000 Houston, 04-06-2003 Houston, 6-25-2003 Toronto, 10-8-2004 Kissimmee, 9-4-2005 Calgary, 12-3-05 Sao Paulo, 7-2-2006 Denver, 7-22-06 Gorge, 7-23-2006 Gorge, 9-13-2006 Bern, 6-22-2008 DC, 6-24-2008 MSG, 6-25-2008 MSG0
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