Also fuck the home plate umpire. If it's a strike for Kluber, it needs to be a strike for Lester. I don't understand how there can be a rule defined strike zone and umpires call it differently a) than the rule suggests and b) for different pitchers.
Are you saying the game was "rigged"?
No, I'm saying umpires need to call the strike zone consistently for both pitchers.
He was extremely inconsistent as has been the umpiring most of the postseason. I feel ive seen more hitters and pitchers asking about the strike zone this postseason than ever before. It should be common knowledge what is and isn't a strike. They haven't changed the game. It really shouldn't be that difficult IMO.
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The strike zone did suck, but there were some "bad" calls that did catch the plate when they showed the overhead. Kluber used it to his advantage, Cub batters never adjusted and Lester just complained and made things worse. What inning did he go talk to blue? Should've happened earlier. Not to let the ump off the hook, but the Cubs crowding the plate has to make it more of a challenge to have a consistent strike zone.
Baez missed the blind tag on the stolen base, IMO. I don't think it would've or should've been overturned but the onus should've been on Chi to review or not. Baez got bailed out there. His no look tag trick is likely to go against him at a pivotal moment.
Bottom line for me...Kluber was dealing and they may have eeked in a couple runs off of him, but I think he would've adjusted to whatever strike zone he was given.
The strike zone did suck, but there were some "bad" calls that did catch the plate when they showed the overhead. Kluber used it to his advantage, Cub batters never adjusted and Lester just complained and made things worse. What inning did he go talk to blue? Should've happened earlier. Not to let the ump off the hook, but the Cubs crowding the plate has to make it more of a challenge to have a consistent strike zone.
Baez missed the blind tag on the stolen base, IMO. I don't think it would've or should've been overturned but the onus should've been on Chi to review or not. Baez got bailed out there. His no look tag trick is likely to go against him at a pivotal moment.
Bottom line for me...Kluber was dealing and they may have eeked in a couple runs off of him, but I think he would've adjusted to whatever strike zone he was given.
I'll reserve judgement on the ump until after ump tracker tweets the results today. It certainly seemed like we were watching a Greg Maddox game circa '96, where Kluber was getting 1-3 inches off the plate on either side. It is what it is...... Still took too many strikes and didn't protect the plate.
I think you're off on the Baez tag. It's a no look tag because he fields the ball in a position to get it in his glove quicker, instead of straddling the bag like most middle infielders do. He then whips his glove back to the bag with such a quickness that he's still watching the ball into his glove, essentially. (Ask that Towles guy about watching the ball into the glove) And correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the onus absolutely on Cleveland to review a play..... Any play they think the umps might have gotten wrong, that went against them?
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What Baez does just looks showboaty to me. He could turn his head at some point even if his tag hand his faster than he can follow.
Obviously it was on Cle to challenge, but I'm saying the ump missed the initial call and it should've gone against Chi, putting it on them to challenge whether he made the tag. The call either way would've been impossible to overturn.
That ump sucked calls for both teams. Early on his calls were for the tribe, later in the game they were for the cubs. He choked in his first world series game behind the plate. He sucks. Either way, cleveland looked good.
Damn that sucked. Definitely wanted more of a showing from the team. Perez with 2 HR? Wtf was that all about? I think all the deep counts were because Kluber was that good and they were trying to increas his pitch count to get him out before getting to Andrew Miller. That said, I really like them at least making Miller throw so many pitches.
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Also fuck the home plate umpire. If it's a strike for Kluber, it needs to be a strike for Lester. I don't understand how there can be a rule defined strike zone and umpires call it differently a) than the rule suggests and b) for different pitchers.
Are you saying the game was "rigged"?
Hmmm ... Well, the Ricketts have been donating money to Trump ... and the Umpires belong to a union ...
What Baez does just looks showboaty to me. He could turn his head at some point even if his tag hand his faster than he can follow.
Obviously it was on Cle to challenge, but I'm saying the ump missed the initial call and it should've gone against Chi, putting it on them to challenge whether he made the tag. The call either way would've been impossible to overturn.
I thought that's what you were getting at...."showboaty"..... But I wasn't going to come right out and accuse you of that. I guess when you see a guy that is a better fielder than Ozzie Smith, you're going to go all out and try to find something wrong with him. That's the way of that cheater organization. Good form.
In real time, the play didn't look close. Hence the out call. So we're either not watching the same game, or your bird shit coated glasses are showing you things that aren't there.
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What Baez does just looks showboaty to me. He could turn his head at some point even if his tag hand his faster than he can follow.
Obviously it was on Cle to challenge, but I'm saying the ump missed the initial call and it should've gone against Chi, putting it on them to challenge whether he made the tag. The call either way would've been impossible to overturn.
I thought that's what you were getting at...."showboaty"..... But I wasn't going to come right out and accuse you of that. I guess when you see a guy that is a better fielder than Ozzie Smith, you're going to go all out and try to find something wrong with him. That's the way of that cheater organization. Good form.
In real time, the play didn't look close. Hence the out call. So we're either not watching the same game, or your bird shit coated glasses are showing you things that aren't there.
Baez can do no wrong in my eyes. He has been carrying us along with a couple other guys this postseason.
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That ump sucked calls for both teams. Early on his calls were for the tribe, later in the game they were for the cubs. He choked in his first world series game behind the plate. He sucks. Either way, cleveland looked good.
That's what the data shows. Ump missed 17%. That's pretty bad. And the early strikes Kluber got absolutely changed some things.
That ump sucked calls for both teams. Early on his calls were for the tribe, later in the game they were for the cubs. He choked in his first world series game behind the plate. He sucks. Either way, cleveland looked good.
That's what the data shows. Ump missed 17%. That's pretty bad. And the early strikes Kluber got absolutely changed some things.
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Dude, being a grown man and having a picture of yourself hitting a bong on a message board is bush league . Act like you've been there.
if it was me, it would be dumb.
a bat flip on a ball off the wall isn't a good look.
for the record, I think Baez is incredible....he may have missed the tag or may have gotten him with the laces....either way, it wouldn't have been overturned.
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What Baez does just looks showboaty to me. He could turn his head at some point even if his tag hand his faster than he can follow.
Obviously it was on Cle to challenge, but I'm saying the ump missed the initial call and it should've gone against Chi, putting it on them to challenge whether he made the tag. The call either way would've been impossible to overturn.
I thought that's what you were getting at...."showboaty"..... But I wasn't going to come right out and accuse you of that. I guess when you see a guy that is a better fielder than Ozzie Smith, you're going to go all out and try to find something wrong with him. That's the way of that cheater organization. Good form.
In real time, the play didn't look close. Hence the out call. So we're either not watching the same game, or your bird shit coated glasses are showing you things that aren't there.
Thanks for letting me off the hook. I couldn't stand living with myself if such a great baseball mind thought I was overstepping my bounds.
Come talk to me when Baez ratttles off a dozen Gold Gloves in a row, and when you do, try not to be an over sensitive wiener.
I don't think saying that he might miss a tag, being showboaty is going all out to find something negative to say. It was right there on the screen and there was talk of it being reviewed during the game. Not even 15 hours ago, he nearly or actually missed a no look tag. You'd think someone with your baseball acumen could understand such a simple concept.
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if missed calls are 10-7 what is there to complain about??? Cubs got worked by a pitcher on his game...own the loss...move on to game 2 and dont turn into that team that everyone will hate by the end of the series by complaining balls and strikes
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Baez missed the blind tag on the stolen base, IMO. I don't think it would've or should've been overturned but the onus should've been on Chi to review or not. Baez got bailed out there. His no look tag trick is likely to go against him at a pivotal moment.
Bottom line for me...Kluber was dealing and they may have eeked in a couple runs off of him, but I think he would've adjusted to whatever strike zone he was given.
I think you're off on the Baez tag. It's a no look tag because he fields the ball in a position to get it in his glove quicker, instead of straddling the bag like most middle infielders do. He then whips his glove back to the bag with such a quickness that he's still watching the ball into his glove, essentially. (Ask that Towles guy about watching the ball into the glove) And correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the onus absolutely on Cleveland to review a play..... Any play they think the umps might have gotten wrong, that went against them?
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Obviously it was on Cle to challenge, but I'm saying the ump missed the initial call and it should've gone against Chi, putting it on them to challenge whether he made the tag. The call either way would've been impossible to overturn.
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In real time, the play didn't look close. Hence the out call. So we're either not watching the same game, or your bird shit coated glasses are showing you things that aren't there.
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Edit: Wait, so the cubs got more favorable calls?
a bat flip on a ball off the wall isn't a good look.
for the record, I think Baez is incredible....he may have missed the tag or may have gotten him with the laces....either way, it wouldn't have been overturned.
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Come talk to me when Baez ratttles off a dozen Gold Gloves in a row, and when you do, try not to be an over sensitive wiener.
I don't think saying that he might miss a tag, being showboaty is going all out to find something negative to say. It was right there on the screen and there was talk of it being reviewed during the game. Not even 15 hours ago, he nearly or actually missed a no look tag. You'd think someone with your baseball acumen could understand such a simple concept.
even if I look and act really crazy.
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Cubs are too good of a team to go that route