Whats going wrong with the world? More shootings

redrock

comebackgirl wrote:

Cosmo wrote:

Don't you just love the smell of condescension in the morning... smell like... bait.

I'd like a little carrot cake on the end of that hook

I make a mean carrot cake. That is if I still have the time after working, volunteering, caring, taking care of the house, laundry, etc. Oh yeah... and shoe shopping!

mickeyrat

Cosmo wrote:

Don't you just love the smell of condescension in the morning... smell like... bait.

desperate plea for attention , if you asked me.

comebackgirl

redrock wrote:

So you DON'T give up one day per week of pay from your 'day job' to work for free. You 'would' but you don't.

So don't insult other people by saying...

You mean you would not give that up to save lives
really?
less f'in shoes for sure :fp:
It's called giving to make a difference ... unselfishness to make a change
Again can you embrace the happiness from that?
Or is that only found in shoe buying?

I'm sure most of us here do volunteering work ON TOP of our day job (and other commitments) but one doesn't go bragging about it or insult others without knowing, I guess.

well clearly the therapists making $30k per year and working 2 jobs can afford to give up some pay to work for free, not the business owners making high 6 figure incomes.

redrock

Cosmo wrote:

Don't you just love the smell of condescension in the morning... smell like... bait.

And I took it... :oops:

Oh well.. Off to the pub now, followed by a meal at our lovely curry place!

comebackgirl

redrock wrote:

comebackgirl wrote:

Cosmo wrote:

Don't you just love the smell of condescension in the morning... smell like... bait.

I'd like a little carrot cake on the end of that hook

I make a mean carrot cake. That is if I still have the time after working, volunteering, caring, taking care of the house, laundry, etc. Oh yeah... and shoe shopping!

Well clearly you aren't doing enough I would love to sample that cake :mrgreen;

pandora

comebackgirl wrote:

Did you read my other posts? I help people every day. Have for 16 years. Making 1/3 of the pay I could with the same education in another career, so it's pretty much already pro bono;). Not to mention I did 2 years of pro bono work and I volunteer. If you can find time in my schedule to donate more time, please have at it. Let me eat cake pandora as a cliniciaThen i assume you answer is you give to a plan like tis tom make it workn I deserve no luxuries

Then I assume your answer is yes you would give time to a program like this.
Walk in clinics, free easily available for all ...
those considering blowing their brains out,
those thinking of coming to their workplace to take out the snobby snots,
those planning to set the house on fire with their loved ones inside,
those on and on and on...

helping the distraught, the addicted, the delusional before they hurt themselves or others....
its a worthy cause that will save millions.

Cosmo

comebackgirl wrote:

I'd like a little carrot cake on the end of that hook

...
Restraint, my young Padawan princess... temptation to feast upon that which is laid at your feet, you must resist. Circular logic, it is laden with... escape, you cannot. To the dark side, it will lead... where exists, neither reason nor logic... and even the pure light of fact and truth cannot penetrate.
...
In other words, don't bite... it tastes like shit. Trust me.

comebackgirl

pandora wrote:

Then I assume your answer is yes you would give time to a program like this.
Walk in clinics, free easily available for all ...
those considering blowing their brains out,
those thinking of coming to their workplace to take out the snobby snots,
those planning to set the house on fire with their loved ones inside,
those on and on and on...

helping the distraught, the addicted, the delusional before they hurt themselves or others....
its a worthy cause that will save millions.

I'm telling you it's my life's work. People don't enter the field for the money or the fabulous lifestyle. They do it for the love of helping others, and rather than volunteering they make a life of it, willingly giving up a much nicer lifestyle if they sought a career in a different field with the same or less education. I see clients for free when needed (forgoing pay in my fee for service position). Outside of my 2 jobs I volunteer with DV survivors. And I'm on call 24/7 for free. All my co-workers do the same But my point is IT'S NOT ENOUGH. Although your idea is a nice one, it's not feasible. Workers are already overworked and required to do pro bono work. Your ideas won't within the current system.

comebackgirl

Cosmo wrote:

comebackgirl wrote:

I'd like a little carrot cake on the end of that hook

...
Restraint, my young Padawan princess... temptation to feast upon that which is laid at your feet, you must resist. Circular logic, it is laden with... escape, you cannot. To the dark side, it will lead... where exists, neither reason nor logic... and even the pure light of fact and truth cannot penetrate.
...
In other words, don't bite... it tastes like shit. Trust me.

Thanks :cool: I can resist. Fortunately my hot buttons were disabled long ago

pandora

comebackgirl wrote:

Yes mental illness is ONE factor in 3-5% of crime, so clearly the way to resolve the issue is to ignore the other factors and the other 95-97% of crimes. People do want to help those living with mental illness. Perhaps that should be addressed on a separate thread.

Are these the same statistics that don't recognize road rage, anger issues,
domestic violence, child addicts, revenge mass shooters, suicidal thoughts, hate crimes,
workplace retaliation cause these and much more are all related to mental problems
that are undiagnosed nor treated.

If that wasn't so sad and twisted it would be laughable.

I told my son at lunch about my ideas... the walk in clinics...
he thought it was awesome and very much needed by the young.

I asked for suggestions and we joked at his thoughts...

The bitch-in clinic ...
someplace to go to rant when people are on their last nerve, literally,
sometimes just talking and having a professional listen is all that is needed.
But who's got 200$ an hour?

Then there could also be solutions depending on the problems,
like this last fella who was being evicted, he could talk with someone
who could maybe help with a solution besides helping address any mental issues.
He's dead now instead along with an innocent person....
when he could have been given care and hope.

Cosmo

comebackgirl wrote:

Cosmo wrote:

comebackgirl wrote:

I'd like a little carrot cake on the end of that hook

...
Restraint, my young Padawan princess... temptation to feast upon that which is laid at your feet, you must resist. Circular logic, it is laden with... escape, you cannot. To the dark side, it will lead... where exists, neither reason nor logic... and even the pure light of fact and truth cannot penetrate.
...
In other words, don't bite... it tastes like shit. Trust me.

Thanks :cool: I can resist. Fortunately my hot buttons were disabled long ago

...
You know... I could also go all THIS GUY too, right?

...
Don't make me go all Pai Mei on your ass.

comebackgirl

pandora wrote:

comebackgirl wrote:

Yes mental illness is ONE factor in 3-5% of crime, so clearly the way to resolve the issue is to ignore the other factors and the other 95-97% of crimes. People do want to help those living with mental illness. Perhaps that should be addressed on a separate thread.

Are these the same statistics that don't recognize road rage, anger issues,
domestic violence, child addicts, revenge mass shooters, suicidal thoughts, hate crimes,
workplace retaliation cause these and much more are all related to mental problems
that are undiagnosed nor treated.

If that wasn't so sad and twisted it would be laughable.

I told my son at lunch about my ideas... the walk in clinics...
he thought it was awesome and very much needed by the young.

I asked for suggestions and we joked at his thoughts...

The bitch-in clinic ...
someplace to go to rant when people are on their last nerve, literally,
sometimes just talking and having a professional listen is all that is needed.
But who's got 200$ an hour?

Then there could also be solutions depending on the problems,
like this last fella who was being evicted, he could talk with someone
who could maybe help with a solution besides helping address any mental issues.
He's dead now instead along with an innocent person....
when he could have been given care and hope.

The stat takes into account all crime.

I LOVE the idea of the walk- in clinics. Really. Some already exist, but they are few and can't meet demand. But there needs to be a feasible way to pay for them. I'm just trying to explain how overburdened the system and the workers already are. That's just the reality

comebackgirl

Cosmo wrote:

comebackgirl wrote:

Cosmo wrote:

...
Restraint, my young Padawan princess... temptation to feast upon that which is laid at your feet, you must resist. Circular logic, it is laden with... escape, you cannot. To the dark side, it will lead... where exists, neither reason nor logic... and even the pure light of fact and truth cannot penetrate.
...
In other words, don't bite... it tastes like shit. Trust me.

Thanks :cool: I can resist. Fortunately my hot buttons were disabled long ago

...
You know... I could also go all THIS GUY too, right?

...
Don't make me go all Pai Mei on your ass.

bring it! :cool:

pandora

redrock wrote:

Zoso wrote:

can you and your husband afford to work for free to help the homeless? no? well, this is the same premise...

pandora wrote:

I already work for free to help the homeless...

comebackgirl wrote:

do you work one full day every week pro bono throughout your career?

pandora wrote:

..... I would volunteer one day a week..

So you DON'T give up one day per week of pay from your 'day job' to work for free. You 'would' but you don't.

So don't insult other people by saying...

You mean you would not give that up to save lives
really?
less f'in shoes for sure :fp:
It's called giving to make a difference ... unselfishness to make a change
Again can you embrace the happiness from that?
Or is that only found in shoe buying?

I'm sure most of us here do volunteering work ON TOP of our day job (and other commitments) but one doesn't go bragging about it or insult others without knowing, I guess.

I was wondering when you might chime in...
Would you give up a day redrock? That is the question not do you.
The poster assumed I did not help the homeless or would not :wtf:
Why would I propose to so something I would not be willing to do?

Please answer the questions this tme

Gee with all the great minds here non with suggestions to add to a plan
that would help get guns out of the hands that abuse them.
Guess not they would rather take away from those who do not.
Gotcha...

JonnyPistachio

pandora wrote:

Gee with all the great minds here non with suggestions to add to a plan
that would help get guns out of the hands that abuse them.
Guess not they would rather take away from those who do not.
Gotcha...

:fp:

I need a drink.
There's three straws...

comebackgirl

JonnyPistachio wrote:

pandora wrote:

Gee with all the great minds here non with suggestions to add to a plan
that would help get guns out of the hands that abuse them.
Guess not they would rather take away from those who do not.
Gotcha...

:fp:

I need a drink.
There's three straws...

careful - you could kill someone with those things :shock:

pandora

comebackgirl wrote:

pandora wrote:

comebackgirl wrote:

Yes mental illness is ONE factor in 3-5% of crime, so clearly the way to resolve the issue is to ignore the other factors and the other 95-97% of crimes. People do want to help those living with mental illness. Perhaps that should be addressed on a separate thread.

Are these the same statistics that don't recognize road rage, anger issues,
domestic violence, child addicts, revenge mass shooters, suicidal thoughts, hate crimes,
workplace retaliation cause these and much more are all related to mental problems
that are undiagnosed nor treated.

If that wasn't so sad and twisted it would be laughable.

I told my son at lunch about my ideas... the walk in clinics...
he thought it was awesome and very much needed by the young.

I asked for suggestions and we joked at his thoughts...

The bitch-in clinic ...
someplace to go to rant when people are on their last nerve, literally,
sometimes just talking and having a professional listen is all that is needed.
But who's got 200$ an hour?

Then there could also be solutions depending on the problems,
like this last fella who was being evicted, he could talk with someone
who could maybe help with a solution besides helping address any mental issues.
He's dead now instead along with an innocent person....
when he could have been given care and hope.

The stat takes into account all crime.

I LOVE the idea of the walk- in clinics. Really. Some already exist, but they are few and can't meet demand. But there needs to be a feasible way to pay for them. I'm just trying to explain how overburdened the system and the workers already are. That's just the reality

Crime ... but not the above things I just mentioned correct?
Because you yourself claim mental issues are not the cause of the above
person on person assaults. You are looking at what crime exactly?
Curious was there a link that says what crime. Love to know what 97% is linked to.

I think a country working together in all the measures /ways I stated ...
it is very feasible.
And when we think of the outcome for the country, actually saving money,
emptying prisons, etc a safer happier world for all one would think that would encourage
this change.

The alternative is more guns used in violence as people melt down under
the growing stresses. Whether we have stricter gun laws or not one will find a way
it's really not that hard.
Even the youngest people can tell you the criminals will aways have guns.

pandora

JonnyPistachio wrote:

pandora wrote:

Gee with all the great minds here non with suggestions to add to a plan
that would help get guns out of the hands that abuse them.
Guess not they would rather take away from those who do not.
Gotcha...

:fp:

I need a drink.
There's three straws...

cheers Jonny! Happy Friday! ... don't forget to duck

Cosmo

comebackgirl wrote:

bring it! :cool:

...
I should teach you the Five Pointed Palm Exploding Head Technique.
...
Oh, wait... this thread is that technique.
...
Nevermind.

comebackgirl

pandora wrote:

comebackgirl wrote:

pandora wrote:

Are these the same statistics that don't recognize road rage, anger issues,
domestic violence, child addicts, revenge mass shooters, suicidal thoughts, hate crimes,
workplace retaliation cause these and much more are all related to mental problems
that are undiagnosed nor treated.

If that wasn't so sad and twisted it would be laughable.

I told my son at lunch about my ideas... the walk in clinics...
he thought it was awesome and very much needed by the young.

I asked for suggestions and we joked at his thoughts...

The bitch-in clinic ...
someplace to go to rant when people are on their last nerve, literally,
sometimes just talking and having a professional listen is all that is needed.
But who's got 200$ an hour?

Then there could also be solutions depending on the problems,
like this last fella who was being evicted, he could talk with someone
who could maybe help with a solution besides helping address any mental issues.
He's dead now instead along with an innocent person....
when he could have been given care and hope.

The stat takes into account all crime.

I LOVE the idea of the walk- in clinics. Really. Some already exist, but they are few and can't meet demand. But there needs to be a feasible way to pay for them. I'm just trying to explain how overburdened the system and the workers already are. That's just the reality

Crime ... but not the above things I just mentioned correct?
Because you yourself claim mental issues are not the cause of the above
person on person assaults. You are looking at what crime exactly?
Curious was there a link that says what crime. Love to know what 97% is linked to.

I think a country working together in all the measures /ways I stated ...
it is very feasible.
And when we think of the outcome for the country, actually saving money,
emptying prisons, etc a safer happier world for all one would think that would encourage
this change.

The alternative is more guns used in violence as people melt down under
the growing stresses. Whether we have stricter gun laws or not one will find a way
it's really not that hard.
Even the youngest people can tell you the criminals will aways have guns.

Yes all crime. Those are crimes; i never said theyre not And no, mental illness is not the cause of those things. You're talking about two seperate issues.

I listed the article twice already. Feel free to give it another read.