Holy fuck. Like someone said earlier in the thread, I totally thought either Skylar or Walter Jr. was going to get stabbed accidentally when Walt and Skylar were wrestling each other on the ground. What an episode. I couldn't fall asleep until after midnight after watching that.
i only got to watch the first half last night, my wife got so pissed after they killed hank she threw the controller and stormed off into the bed room I've been married long enough to know to follow her and put on some Big Bang Theory, she swears she's not watching the last two episodes, and i thought i was into it? :crazy: :crazy:
Sheeeeeeeeeet. Yeah, Walt is clearly dead. No way around it. Hoping he is coming back to save his family/Jesse.
The timing is strange with him having a full head of hair and beard and all. What pulls him back that far in the future?
He's dying and doesn't have much time left remember he was coughing in the bathroom when he bought the gun. If the timeline is 8 months I think it's a stretch to assume Jesse is still alive and even if he is after everything that went down I don't see him coming back just to save him. I think he comes back to take revenge after jacks crew takes out his family on Lydia's request. I think the line everyone dies in this movie when he was watching scarface with jr says all you need to know about how this ends.
Sheeeeeeeeeet. Yeah, Walt is clearly dead. No way around it. Hoping he is coming back to save his family/Jesse.
The timing is strange with him having a full head of hair and beard and all. What pulls him back that far in the future?
He's dying and doesn't have much time left remember he was coughing in the bathroom when he bought the gun. If the timeline is 8 months I think it's a stretch to assume Jesse is still alive and even if he is after everything that went down I don't see him coming back just to save him. I think he comes back to take revenge after jacks crew takes out his family on Lydia's request. I think the line everyone dies in this movie when he was watching scarface with jr says all you need to know about how this ends.
Good points. Yeah, that Scarface quote is looming pretty big.
Sheeeeeeeeeet. Yeah, Walt is clearly dead. No way around it. Hoping he is coming back to save his family/Jesse.
The timing is strange with him having a full head of hair and beard and all. What pulls him back that far in the future?
He's dying and doesn't have much time left remember he was coughing in the bathroom when he bought the gun. If the timeline is 8 months I think it's a stretch to assume Jesse is still alive and even if he is after everything that went down I don't see him coming back just to save him. I think he comes back to take revenge after jacks crew takes out his family on Lydia's request. I think the line everyone dies in this movie when he was watching scarface with jr says all you need to know about how this ends.
Where is the 8 months coming from? I thought it was less than that. How fast does hair grow?
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Who do we think the risin is for? On that Talking Bad show after, Bill Hader suggested he thinks it is for Lydia for reasons yet to be seen because the show has always made a focus on her tea, whether it be the mug, her drinking it, or how she likes it.
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He's dying and doesn't have much time left remember he was coughing in the bathroom when he bought the gun. If the timeline is 8 months I think it's a stretch to assume Jesse is still alive and even if he is after everything that went down I don't see him coming back just to save him. I think he comes back to take revenge after jacks crew takes out his family on Lydia's request. I think the line everyone dies in this movie when he was watching scarface with jr says all you need to know about how this ends.
Good points. It is hard to see anything bringing Walt back to Abq at this point. But his family getting killed is definitely something that would bring him back. I can't even imagine what is going to happen in these next 2 episodes. And I can't fucking wait!!
In Season 5 Episode 4 Walt celebrates his 51st birthday and in the season 5 premiere he arranges the bacon for his 52nd the timeline from last nights episode until the scence at Denny's would be roughly about 8 months from everything I've read. The only thing we know is Walt goes to NH and his family has moved out or has been killed and he has been publically outed as Heisenberg. I assume they will fill in the gaps in the next episode before the finale.
He's dying and doesn't have much time left remember he was coughing in the bathroom when he bought the gun. If the timeline is 8 months I think it's a stretch to assume Jesse is still alive and even if he is after everything that went down I don't see him coming back just to save him. I think he comes back to take revenge after jacks crew takes out his family on Lydia's request. I think the line everyone dies in this movie when he was watching scarface with jr says all you need to know about how this ends.
Good points. It is hard to see anything bringing Walt back to Abq at this point. But his family getting killed is definitely something that would bring him back. I can't even imagine what is going to happen in these next 2 episodes. And I can't fucking wait!!
I can live with everyone dying but I hope they don't kill the baby, that would be a tough one to swallow.
So, Jack and his crew are going to want to get the confession tape that Hank and Jesse made. Assuming that Jesse told them were it was (Hank's house) when he was getting it beaten out of him, I'd imagine Marie might not make it next week.
I'm wondering what causes them to destroy Walt's house though?
Killing Walt's family would definitely bring him out of hiding, but I think that the combination of them killing Hank (further destroying his family) and that they have most of his money, will bring him back. Discovering that Jesse is held captive probably isn't his motivation to have that big gun. And I agree with Hader that Lydia is getting the ricin.
All of that being said, last nights episode was brilliant, unbelievable, awful, and devastating.
Walt Jr and Holly scenes were tough to watch. As well as when Jesse was dragged out from underneath the car and looking at Walt like he was saying please don't do this.
And the numerous moments in the show when Walt was Walter White and not Heisenberg. Although those didn't last too long.
-the look he gave Jesse just before he told him about Jane
-when he yelled "we're a family" after the scuffle with Skylar
-pleading with Hank before he was shot and his break down after
-holding Holly in the bathroom when she said mama
-losing it on the phone as Walt while Heisenberg spoke to Skylar
All of these are "what have I done" moments, though most are immediately followed by snapping back into Heisenberg mode
How do we know the gang destroyed the house it could've been a bunch of kids. Great point about the disk I think that's got to be the trigger for them to go after Walts family.
i still have a feeling,its a plan..and skyler is in..
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What was the point of Walt telling Jesse about watching Jane die?
He knew at that point they were going to let Jesse live for a little while at least, so they could get the info they wanted out of him... so what exactly was the point of Walt's confession to Jesse? Just in case they don't kill Jesse, Walt can feel he got some sort of revenge against him, for having let Jesse know of that?
The part with Holly in the car, and Walt outside... Was he playing with a match or lighter? Man I thought he was gonna torch the car w/ Holly in it before they showed her inside. I'd have to hate Walt if he did that, tho its pretty damn hard to like him still after last night's episode. Im pretty sure if they killed Jesse last night that way I would have started hating Walt. I thought they were gonna do it. I can't believe they spared him, and now I'm not sure whats worse. Watching Jesse die or watching Jesse be tortured. Some seriously good acting on Aaron Paul's part last night.
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What was the point of Walt telling Jesse about watching Jane die?
He knew at that point they were going to let Jesse live for a little while at least, so they could get the info they wanted out of him... so what exactly was the point of Walt's confession to Jesse? Just in case they don't kill Jesse, Walt can feel he got some sort of revenge against him, for having let Jesse know of that?
He wants Jesse to suffer. He blames him for Hank getting killed.
i still have a feeling,its a plan..and skyler is in..
I'm gonna go the opposite way. I think Skylar is out. Walt may save her or something along those lines and she may end up with some money (although I think she would have a hard time keeping it), but their relationship is over, I think.
i still have a feeling,its a plan..and skyler is in..
I'm gonna go the opposite way. I think Skylar is out. Walt may save her or something along those lines and she may end up with some money (although I think she would have a hard time keeping it), but their relationship is over, I think.
Yeah, she's definitely "out". I do think she knew what Walt was doing when on the phone with the cops listening in. Getting her off the hook so they wouldn't look into her, the business, etc.
I do wonder if Walt taking Holly was just to show...further proof of his display to the police that he's unstable and all events were his doing or if in fact he changed his mind when Holly said "mama" and realized there was no point in keeping her and putting her life in jeopardy.
How do we know the gang destroyed the house it could've been a bunch of kids. Great point about the disk I think that's got to be the trigger for them to go after Walts family.
It looks more abandoned that destroyed.
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It's funny that Todd saved Jessies life or he would have been shot.
Now they are using Jessie to help solidify their cooking product.
Question, why is everyone thinking Walt would use the ricin on Lydia? Why would he want her dead?
I think Walt realizes or will come to find out that Lydia is running the show. She wants to run her own meth business...she probably told the gang to go out to the site despite what Walt said. She's a hell of a lot smarter than those nazi guys. She probably found out that he gave them specific coordinates and knew there had to be more to it. When Uncle Jack said "who gives coordinates, when you could have just said take a left on highway 10, etc."...I'm pretty sure Lydia realized there had to be some serious value to that location (money, meth storage, etc.) She knew Walt was up against the wall, completely defenseless and nothing he could do. Perfect time to send the boys.
It wasn't until they got there they realized they just killed a Federal Agent and certainly couldn't let another one go. Uncle Jack figured Jesse was expendable too but Todd stepped up and realized his value as far as information and his ability to make a better product...which Lydia give him shit about during the last episode. Todd will likely have him cook, learn from him then get rid of him.
I wonder if in the near future Walt finds out/hears about blue meth being produced again and immediately realizes they haven't killed Jesse as he's the only one who knows how to make it. He then connects the dots and goes after the gang and Lydia.
How do we know the gang destroyed the house it could've been a bunch of kids. Great point about the disk I think that's got to be the trigger for them to go after Walts family.
It looks more abandoned that destroyed.
I guess it could be kids. If this story ends up all over the news and the "Heisenberg" legend grows, then I could totally see kids doing it. I just initially assumed it was Jacks crew.
Keep in mind that I've been wrong in my thinking for just about everything except Jesse getting kidnapped to cook for the neo-nazis.
It's funny that Todd saved Jessies life or he would have been shot.
Now they are using Jessie to help solidify their cooking product.
Question, why is everyone thinking Walt would use the ricin on Lydia? Why would he want her dead?
I think Walt realizes or will come to find out that Lydia is running the show. She wants to run her own meth business...she probably told the gang to go out to the site despite what Walt said. She's a hell of a lot smarter than those nazi guys. She probably found out that he gave them specific coordinates and knew there had to be more to it. When Uncle Jack said "who gives coordinates, when you could have just said take a left on highway 10, etc."...I'm pretty sure Lydia realized there had to be some serious value to that location (money, meth storage, etc.) She knew Walt was up against the wall, completely defenseless and nothing he could do. Perfect time to send the boys.
It wasn't until they got there they realized they just killed a Federal Agent and certainly couldn't let another one go. Uncle Jack figured Jesse was expendable too but Todd stepped up and realized his value as far as information and his ability to make a better product...which Lydia give him shit about during the last episode. Todd will likely have him cook, learn from him then get rid of him.
I wonder if in the near future Walt finds out/hears about blue meth being produced again and immediately realizes they haven't killed Jesse as he's the only one who knows how to make it. He then connects the dots and goes after the gang and Lydia.
I'm not sure if Lydia had anything to do with Jack's crew going after Walt. They needed Walt to cook for them and I think Jack was just protecting his interests.
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i only got to watch the first half last night, my wife got so pissed after they killed hank she threw the controller and stormed off into the bed room I've been married long enough to know to follow her and put on some Big Bang Theory, she swears she's not watching the last two episodes, and i thought i was into it? :crazy: :crazy:
haha..she'll watch them
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i only got to watch the first half last night, my wife got so pissed after they killed hank she threw the controller and stormed off into the bed room I've been married long enough to know to follow her and put on some Big Bang Theory, she swears she's not watching the last two episodes, and i thought i was into it? :crazy: :crazy:
haha..she'll watch them
She watched the rest tonight. :twisted: not happy but she watched.
Did anyone else notice that when Walt was pushing the barrel through the desert (near the original cook site), that he passed by his pants from the very first episode?
Did anyone else notice that when Walt was pushing the barrel through the desert (near the original cook site), that he passed by his pants from the very first episode?
Haha yeah I noticed that but not till the 3rd time I watched the episode.
Did anyone else notice that when Walt was pushing the barrel through the desert (near the original cook site), that he passed by his pants from the very first episode?
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Sheeeeeeeeeet. Yeah, Walt is clearly dead. No way around it. Hoping he is coming back to save his family/Jesse.
The timing is strange with him having a full head of hair and beard and all. What pulls him back that far in the future?
He's dying and doesn't have much time left remember he was coughing in the bathroom when he bought the gun. If the timeline is 8 months I think it's a stretch to assume Jesse is still alive and even if he is after everything that went down I don't see him coming back just to save him. I think he comes back to take revenge after jacks crew takes out his family on Lydia's request. I think the line everyone dies in this movie when he was watching scarface with jr says all you need to know about how this ends.
Good points. Yeah, that Scarface quote is looming pretty big.
Where is the 8 months coming from? I thought it was less than that. How fast does hair grow?
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Good points. It is hard to see anything bringing Walt back to Abq at this point. But his family getting killed is definitely something that would bring him back. I can't even imagine what is going to happen in these next 2 episodes. And I can't fucking wait!!
In Season 5 Episode 4 Walt celebrates his 51st birthday and in the season 5 premiere he arranges the bacon for his 52nd the timeline from last nights episode until the scence at Denny's would be roughly about 8 months from everything I've read. The only thing we know is Walt goes to NH and his family has moved out or has been killed and he has been publically outed as Heisenberg. I assume they will fill in the gaps in the next episode before the finale.
I can live with everyone dying but I hope they don't kill the baby, that would be a tough one to swallow.
I'm wondering what causes them to destroy Walt's house though?
Killing Walt's family would definitely bring him out of hiding, but I think that the combination of them killing Hank (further destroying his family) and that they have most of his money, will bring him back. Discovering that Jesse is held captive probably isn't his motivation to have that big gun. And I agree with Hader that Lydia is getting the ricin.
All of that being said, last nights episode was brilliant, unbelievable, awful, and devastating.
Walt Jr and Holly scenes were tough to watch. As well as when Jesse was dragged out from underneath the car and looking at Walt like he was saying please don't do this.
And the numerous moments in the show when Walt was Walter White and not Heisenberg. Although those didn't last too long.
-the look he gave Jesse just before he told him about Jane
-when he yelled "we're a family" after the scuffle with Skylar
-pleading with Hank before he was shot and his break down after
-holding Holly in the bathroom when she said mama
-losing it on the phone as Walt while Heisenberg spoke to Skylar
All of these are "what have I done" moments, though most are immediately followed by snapping back into Heisenberg mode
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
He knew at that point they were going to let Jesse live for a little while at least, so they could get the info they wanted out of him... so what exactly was the point of Walt's confession to Jesse? Just in case they don't kill Jesse, Walt can feel he got some sort of revenge against him, for having let Jesse know of that?
The part with Holly in the car, and Walt outside... Was he playing with a match or lighter? Man I thought he was gonna torch the car w/ Holly in it before they showed her inside. I'd have to hate Walt if he did that, tho its pretty damn hard to like him still after last night's episode. Im pretty sure if they killed Jesse last night that way I would have started hating Walt. I thought they were gonna do it. I can't believe they spared him, and now I'm not sure whats worse. Watching Jesse die or watching Jesse be tortured. Some seriously good acting on Aaron Paul's part last night.
He wants Jesse to suffer. He blames him for Hank getting killed.
I'm gonna go the opposite way. I think Skylar is out. Walt may save her or something along those lines and she may end up with some money (although I think she would have a hard time keeping it), but their relationship is over, I think.
Now they are using Jessie to help solidify their cooking product.
Question, why is everyone thinking Walt would use the ricin on Lydia? Why would he want her dead?
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Yeah, she's definitely "out". I do think she knew what Walt was doing when on the phone with the cops listening in. Getting her off the hook so they wouldn't look into her, the business, etc.
I do wonder if Walt taking Holly was just to show...further proof of his display to the police that he's unstable and all events were his doing or if in fact he changed his mind when Holly said "mama" and realized there was no point in keeping her and putting her life in jeopardy.
It looks more abandoned that destroyed.
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-The Writer
I think Walt realizes or will come to find out that Lydia is running the show. She wants to run her own meth business...she probably told the gang to go out to the site despite what Walt said. She's a hell of a lot smarter than those nazi guys. She probably found out that he gave them specific coordinates and knew there had to be more to it. When Uncle Jack said "who gives coordinates, when you could have just said take a left on highway 10, etc."...I'm pretty sure Lydia realized there had to be some serious value to that location (money, meth storage, etc.) She knew Walt was up against the wall, completely defenseless and nothing he could do. Perfect time to send the boys.
It wasn't until they got there they realized they just killed a Federal Agent and certainly couldn't let another one go. Uncle Jack figured Jesse was expendable too but Todd stepped up and realized his value as far as information and his ability to make a better product...which Lydia give him shit about during the last episode. Todd will likely have him cook, learn from him then get rid of him.
I wonder if in the near future Walt finds out/hears about blue meth being produced again and immediately realizes they haven't killed Jesse as he's the only one who knows how to make it. He then connects the dots and goes after the gang and Lydia.
I guess it could be kids. If this story ends up all over the news and the "Heisenberg" legend grows, then I could totally see kids doing it. I just initially assumed it was Jacks crew.
Keep in mind that I've been wrong in my thinking for just about everything except Jesse getting kidnapped to cook for the neo-nazis.
I'm not sure if Lydia had anything to do with Jack's crew going after Walt. They needed Walt to cook for them and I think Jack was just protecting his interests.
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She watched the rest tonight. :twisted: not happy but she watched.
Haha yeah I noticed that but not till the 3rd time I watched the episode.