oil canada vs' the great bear rainforest

chadwick

oceaninmyeyes wrote:

I think this thread needs a bump. I realize many of the original posters on this thread are Canadian, and won't be able to help with this. But if you are American, please consider helping out. I read on my FB feed about Colorado Senator Mark Udall pushing for the extension of the Wind Energy PTC (Production Tax Credit). He has pledged to stand up and talk about it everyday until it is passed in the Senate. It will help our economy and our environment. You can go here to sign his petition: http://www.markudall.senate.gov/?p=form&id=64

And that got me to thinking about Eddie Vedder talking to the audience at the solo show in Albuquerque about the importance of the huge Ogallala aquifer, and the proposed pipeline running through it. This thread is the only place I have found it discussed on the boards. Water for more than 2 million Americans is at risk. From todays Houston Press: "Because it is much thicker than conventional sweet crude, the diluted bitumen will move through the pipeline at pressures of up to 1,300 pounds per square inch and temperatures as high as 150 degrees. Opponents, who are not solely a bunch of young enviros but include a number of dyed-in-the-wool conservative East Texans, say a major spill is inevitable. . . . For a number of aging, tiny and poor East Texas towns, the issue hits much closer to home. If the pipeline busts, what's going to happen to the wells they drink from and the rivers they fish?" http://www.houstonpress.com/2013-01-03/ ... ipeline/6/

Some web sites say that the battle is over. That Pres. Obama will not sign a bill that allows the pipeline into law. But today's article makes it clear that the fight is not over. As individuals, we need to educate ourselves, and then talk about it and try to educate our fellow citizens about it. But, of course, our voices together can do a little more. This website gives some talking points and ways to contact your US Representatives to encourage them to oppose this pipeline. If you care about the environment, and the drinking water of more than 2 million Americans, I urge you to look at this and see if together we can make our voices heard. http://action.sierraclub.org/site/PageS ... login=true

great fucking post! it is amazing to me the gambles assholes in charge of things want to take that may very well totally fuck shit up causing environmental catastrophes

assholes

like deep water drilling. only a dipshit would attempt such a thing & have the arrogance to say it is damn near failure free. i truly wish each & every one of them prick would be boiled in their own pudding.

oceaninmyeyes

chadwick wrote:

great fucking post!

Thanks Chadwick! I just hope it moves people to do something. We can do without a lot of things, but water is not one of them.

candleofthought26

oceaninmyeyes wrote:

But if you are American, please consider helping out[/color]. I read on my FB feed about Colorado Senator Mark Udall pushing for the extension of the Wind Energy PTC (Production Tax Credit). He has pledged to stand up and talk about it everyday until it is passed in the Senate. It will help our economy and our environment. You can go here to sign his petition: http://www.markudall.senate.gov/?p=form&id=64

Some web sites say that the battle is over. That Pres. Obama will not sign a bill that allows the pipeline into law. But today's article makes it clear that the fight is not over. As individuals, we need to educate ourselves, and then talk about it and try to educate our fellow citizens about it. But, of course, our voices together can do a little more. This website gives some talking points and ways to contact your US Representatives to encourage them to oppose this pipeline. If you care about the environment, and the drinking water of more than 2 million Americans, I urge you to look at this and see if together we can make our voices heard. http://action.sierraclub.org/site/PageS ... login=true

THANK YOU. Very very well put. This is exactly the type of thinking and discussion we need to move the country. Calling your representative takes 45 seconds (they take your name, zip code, and your position on the issue). Imagine what a big wave of educated citizens taking 45 seconds to voice their opinion on the fate of their country could do ..

candleofthought26

To add to the wave of positivity, an update from the website of the Senator supporting the wind energy petition that oceaninmyeyes has encouraged us to take part in:

"The Wind Energy PTC has been extended, signed by President Obama on Jan. 2, 2013. Thanks to the efforts of thousands of Coloradans who signed the petition below, the PTC was approved by Congress as part of the fiscal cliff deal. The one-year extension of the credit gives manufacturers in Colorado and throughout North America the signal they need to create jobs, make capital investments in the United States and ensure that wind energy remains a strong part of our national energy strategy." (http://www.markudall.senate.gov/?p=form&id=64)

Each one of us, together, makes a big difference. This is just one of many examples of important victories in the U.S. and Canada that have been won by individuals who stepped up and participated in seemingly small ways.

chadwick

http://youtu.be/nYoIwmnxnQc
nice little documentary put together by surfers

chadwick

http://youtu.be/8K87F2lABbE
it says alaska but this is about the entire coastal region from canada northward

salmon in the trees...marine nitrogen
good stuff

trees more inland do not have marine nitrogen/salmon in the trees
im trying to find a video i watched in fisheries class but i cannot locate the damn thing

northerndragon

As someone who lives where they want to run this deathline we will take all the awareness we can get. Just an item of note we will stand and fight for our home and for those saying it's all about jobs that is what we are protecting because most of our economy is based in our land and the beauty and bounty it provides. The pipeline is worth 164 jobs and thousands of years of devastation.
SAY NO TO ENBRIDGE OIL!
NO PIPELINES
NO TANKERS
NO PROBLEM

chadwick

northerndragon said:

As someone who lives where they want to run this deathline we will take all the awareness we can get. Just an item of note we will stand and fight for our home and for those saying it's all about jobs that is what we are protecting because most of our economy is based in our land and the beauty and bounty it provides. The pipeline is worth 164 jobs and thousands of years of devastation.
SAY NO TO ENBRIDGE OIL!
NO PIPELINES
NO TANKERS
NO PROBLEM

& what a beautiful place it is
good for you all for standing your ground

riotgrl

We absolutely have to start being more concerned with our environment and the long term health and vitality of ourselves and our environment. The state of KY is currently proposing building a natural gas pipeline through several states in the Commonwealth even though many in the region oppose its construction. Here is a petition that opposes its construction if anyone can sign