The next American Century- Republican primary over

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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,676
    Re mr Chen...

    Rubio, speculated to be a top candidate to serve as Romney's running mate, added his voice Sunday to that criticism, accusing the president of repeatedly failing in situations involving human rights. He pointed to the Iranian uprising of 2009, an event in which the Obama administration largely refrained from involvement.

    "And we see that again here now, in China, where somehow this administration looked almost reluctant to forcefully assert the United States' defense of human rights and the principles of human rights," Rubio said.

    Ahh, so you think the esteemed Senator from Florida can speak, act or have a cogent opinion on human rights in China? Really? He can't fully articulate why he should be Mitts running mate. And he'll tell China how it should be? Really? I wonder how many Spanish speakers there are in China? He'll definitately connect. Through the Wii. And Iran? He's an authority on Iran and geo-politics? He has an inside scoop on what the Obama Administration has been doing with promoting democracy in Iran? Hmmm, what exactly should the US be doing in Iran? Bomb. Bomb. Bomb? Iran? Sorry, but McCain's Reagan moment wasn't very presidential. But I digress. Really? Rubio? That's the best you can come up with? Really? Romney and Rubio?

    R Squared, we'll put you in a box!

    As an American , I respect your right to be foolhardy and throw your vote away. Its cool. But really? Rubio? You'd have a better chance with Ron Paul.

    Rubio? Really?

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  • usamamasan1
    usamamasan1 Posts: 4,695
    Obama never even had a job and he's the leader of the free world.



    In real news, sanatorum is now on board.
  • peacefrompaul
    peacefrompaul Posts: 25,293
    Obama never even had a job and he's the leader of the free world.



    In real news, sanatorum is now on board.

    Lawyer

    Law professor

    Chicago Community Organizer

    Chicago State Senator

    United States Senator

    He has had a job or two
  • usamamasan1
    usamamasan1 Posts: 4,695
    edited May 2012
    Ha, thanks for the laugh.
  • peacefrompaul
    peacefrompaul Posts: 25,293
    Ha

    Gotcha
  • Newch91
    Newch91 Posts: 17,560
    Obama never even had a job and he's the leader of the free world.



    In real news, sanatorum is now on board.

    Lawyer

    Law professor

    Chicago Community Organizer

    Chicago State Senator

    United States Senator

    He has had a job or two
    :thumbup: I've said all these whenever I talk with my uncle.
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  • peacefrompaul
    peacefrompaul Posts: 25,293
    Newch91 wrote:
    Obama never even had a job and he's the leader of the free world.



    In real news, sanatorum is now on board.

    Lawyer

    Law professor

    Chicago Community Organizer

    Chicago State Senator

    United States Senator

    He has had a job or two
    :thumbup: I've said all these whenever I talk with my uncle.

    And you know, I'm not an Obama supporter... But for Christ sakes, the man has had a JOB. I'm not going to make up some kind of a fib like that.
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,676
    Unbelievable that your litmus test is whether or not the person, or entity, that occupies the White house, held a job? Really? The man currently occupying the White House "worked" his way there. He didn't have millions of his own money or SUPERPACS to annoit him, he worked the grassroots and got elected. You can't respect that? For the toughest, most imprtant job in the "free world?" If this were 1948, or if it were 1948 4 years ago, the headline would read, "Community Organizer Trumps Wall Street."

    So, do you tell your children, if you have them, that they can be president? Or only if they amass untold amounts of wealth first? Yea, you belive in the American Dream alright.

    Ha, Obama hasn't held a job thus he is unfit to be re-elected. Really? That is what you've devolved to? The French at least have intelligent debate prior to picking their candidates. Freedom fries anyone?

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  • usamamasan1
    usamamasan1 Posts: 4,695
    You suggest Rubio isn't qualified to comment a few posts above and then say this?

    One way or the other, can't have it both if you want to make sense.

    Duh

    Woot
  • Newch91
    Newch91 Posts: 17,560
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,676
    I've said it before and I'll say it again, its easy to critize than to offer up or articulate what you, as a presumptive VP candidate, would do differently. Did the honorable Mr. Rubio articulate what or how Obama has been failing on human rights? No, he just stated rhetoric. So exactly how has the Obama adminstration failed on human rights? What is it about current US policy toward China or Iran that has failed on human rights? Because the US didn't invade? Impose sanctions? Free the dissident? Pronounce from the pulpit that this won't stand? And Bush 1 let the tanks roll through Tiannimen Square. And then he left the Iraqis to twist in the wind after Desert Storm. So what should Obama be doing in regards to human rights in China, Iran and Syria? What should our policy be? And what does he, Rubio, know that we don't? I happen to believe that Obama's sanctions toward Iran, sanctions that the Chinese and Russians have bought into and support, currently, have done more to support human rights in Iran than Rubio's rhetoric. If you disagree, state what your candidates would do differently. And I think there is a whole lot more going on, behind the scenes, in Iran than we know. Because Obama is not politicizing it. Romney jumped the gun, before negotiations were finalized, regarding the Chinese dissident. Last I heard, he may very well be allowed to either leave China or stay, which is what he wanted, to continue to work toward democratic freedoms. If you think that China is going to change, overnight, to suit our needs, you're sadly mistaken. But it makes for great campaign rhetoric, doesn't it. Nixon's chickens are coming home to roost. And yes, Rubio is not offering solutions, just politicizing and opposing because he's part and parcel of the "do nothing to let Obama have a victory, make him fail, regardless of the cost to the US" crowd. All I've heard for three + years is opposition, no solutions offered from the other side.

    So tell me, what should US policy toward human rights in China, Iran and Syria be? Articulate Romney's and Rubio's policy for me. Please, I'd like to understand what it is.

    And yes, I believe Rubio isn't qualified to be a heartbeat away from the Oval Office.

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  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    I've said it before and I'll say it again, its easy to critize than to offer up or articulate what you, as a presumptive VP candidate, would do differently. Did the honorable Mr. Rubio articulate what or how Obama has been failing on human rights? No, he just stated rhetoric. So exactly how has the Obama adminstration failed on human rights? What is it about current US policy toward China or Iran that has failed on human rights? Because the US didn't invade? Impose sanctions? Free the dissident? Pronounce from the pulpit that this won't stand? And Bush 1 let the tanks roll through Tiannimen Square. And then he left the Iraqis to twist in the wind after Desert Storm. So what should Obama be doing in regards to human rights in China, Iran and Syria? What should our policy be? And what does he, Rubio, know that we don't? I happen to believe that Obama's sanctions toward Iran, sanctions that the Chinese and Russians have bought into and support, currently, have done more to support human rights in Iran than Rubio's rhetoric. If you disagree, state what your candidates would do differently. And I think there is a whole lot more going on, behind the scenes, in Iran than we know. Because Obama is not politicizing it. Romney jumped the gun, before negotiations were finalized, regarding the Chinese dissident. Last I heard, he may very well be allowed to either leave China or stay, which is what he wanted, to continue to work toward democratic freedoms. If you think that China is going to change, overnight, to suit our needs, you're sadly mistaken. But it makes for great campaign rhetoric, doesn't it. Nixon's chickens are coming home to roost. And yes, Rubio is not offering solutions, just politicizing and opposing because he's part and parcel of the "do nothing to let Obama have a victory, make him fail, regardless of the cost to the US" crowd. All I've heard for three + years is opposition, no solutions offered from the other side.

    So tell me, what should US policy toward human rights in China, Iran and Syria be? Articulate Romney's and Rubio's policy for me. Please, I'd like to understand what it is.

    And yes, I believe Rubio isn't qualified to be a heartbeat away from the Oval Office.

    Peace.

    You're wasting your time. He won't reply to any of your questions. He'll just post another lame soundbite, or silly picture, followed by a 'Woot!'.

    I'm surprised people haven't realized that by now.
  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,327
    Well, it appears that the jinx has been put on Rubio. 8-)

    Who is the sixth most desirable GOP candidate for VP? :mrgreen:

    (seriously .... I may be able to wager on this) :ugeek:

    :corn:
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  • mikepegg44
    mikepegg44 Posts: 3,353
    Jason P wrote:
    Well, it appears that the jinx has been put on Rubio. 8-)

    Who is the sixth most desirable GOP candidate for VP? :mrgreen:

    (seriously .... I may be able to wager on this) :ugeek:

    :corn:


    I am guessing they will pick Jesse Ventura. I mean, if you are going to pick a candidate with baggage, at least pick one with charisma right?
    too bad that just as he is about to accept it he will be punched square in the mouth by Gorilla Monsoon.

    Rubio was one of those candidates that people constantly talked about but for no really good reason.
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  • Newch91
    Newch91 Posts: 17,560
    Jason P wrote:
    Well, it appears that the jinx has been put on Rubio. 8-)

    Who is the sixth most desirable GOP candidate for VP? :mrgreen:

    (seriously .... I may be able to wager on this) :ugeek:

    :corn:
    What happened with Rubio?
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  • usamamasan1
    usamamasan1 Posts: 4,695
    edited May 2012
    The most important thing, above all else, is getting BO out of the white house. He has been a disaster.

    "All the things that made him different and special four years ago are gone," Rubio said. "And now all he does is run, dividing Americans against each other, obviously because he can't run on his record." 

    On Obama, Rubio also hit the nail on the head saying he's

    "divisive, cynical ... always looking for the opportunity to pit Americans against each other in some sort of political calculation." 
    Post edited by usamamasan1 on
  • inmytree
    inmytree Posts: 4,741
    mikepegg44 wrote:
    Jason P wrote:
    Well, it appears that the jinx has been put on Rubio. 8-)

    Who is the sixth most desirable GOP candidate for VP? :mrgreen:

    (seriously .... I may be able to wager on this) :ugeek:

    :corn:


    I am guessing they will pick Jesse Ventura. I mean, if you are going to pick a candidate with baggage, at least pick one with charisma right?
    too bad that just as he is about to accept it he will be punched square in the mouth by Gorilla Monsoon.

    Rubio was one of those candidates that people constantly talked about but for no really good reason.


    too bad he can't pick The Fabulous Moolah...perhaps she would have helped him better appeal to women voters...
  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,327
    Newch91 wrote:
    What happened with Rubio?
    He's been wooted.
    Be Excellent To Each Other
    Party On, Dudes!
  • usamamasan1
    usamamasan1 Posts: 4,695
    "There's this propensity that this administration seems to have of an unwillingness to forcefully assert America's values," Rubio said. 


    Good news team, we are now moving in the right direction. When Romney wins, employers won't be afraid to hire. Our economy will improve. People will have clarity knowing they will be able to keep more of their hard earned money.

    Believe in America

    Woot
  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    "There's this propensity that this administration seems to have of an unwillingness to forcefully assert America's values," Rubio said. 


    Good news team, we are now moving in the right direction. When Romney wins, employers won't be afraid to hire. Our economy will improve. People will have clarity knowing they will be able to keep more of their hard earned money.

    Believe in America

    Woot

    can you please tell me exactly what these american values are? and in what way the current administration arent willing to forcefully assert them. also how would they go about that anyways? thanx in advance.

    i live in a country where every now and again some politician craps on about australian values and how un australian something is and i have no clue what theyre talking about so..
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