The next American Century- Republican primary over

gimmesometruth27

jimc3 wrote:

please, there is no "war on women" from either side. White House was wrong to start this, Romney camp was wrong to try to flip it back on them. every non-evil human values women.

what happened to the whole post-Gabby Giffords "let's tone down the violent rhetoric"? a WAR on women? seriously?

this is all just talking points babble to win the invented battle of the day in the never-ending 24hr cable news cycle.

hopefully soon everyone will start to talk about real issues.

threatening to roll back the rights that women have enjoyed for the last several decades IS a war on women's rights. if you will not call it a war, what would you call it? an assault? to republicans does that mean the "women's right's experiment" has ended in failure???

these proposed laws are real. they are not made up. if they were made up they would not be being fucking enacted in arizona and mississippi and tennessee.

gimmesometruth27

usamamasan1 wrote:

"We need a president who will stand up for the rights of hunters, sportsmen and those who seek to protect their home and family," Romney said. "President Obama has not; I will."

how has obama not stood up for the rights of hunters, sportsmen and those who seek to protect their home and family"????? how has he threatened any of that?

i am asking you to provide us with 4 specific examples of this. since romney could not do it, can you?

either romney has information that the rest of us don't have, or he is fucking lying to a group of people who are so stupid that they believe him without question, or they are too lazy to look into it themselves. either way, he is pandering and distorting the truth.. in this case the most logical explanation is probably the right one, and that is he is fucking outright LYING.....

gimmesometruth27

"We need a President who will stand up for the rights of hunters, sportsmen, and those seeking to protect their homes and their families. President Obama has not; I will," he said.

"If we are going to safeguard our Second Amendment, it is time to elect a president who will defend the rights President Obama ignores or minimizes," Romney added. "And I will protect the Second Amendment rights of the American people."

Democrats shot back at Romney before his speech was even delivered.

“The president's record makes clear the he supports and respects the second amendment, and we'll fight back against any attempts to mislead voters. Mitt Romney is going to have difficulty explaining why he quadrupled fees on gun owners in Massachusetts then lied about being a lifelong hunter in an act of shameless pandering," Obama campaign spokesman Ben LaBolt said in a statement this morning. "That varmint won't hunt.”

Romney's history with second amendment and gun-ownership issues is a colorful one, from saying "I don't line up with the NRA," during his 1994 senate campaign, to being forced to backtrack on his skill as a hunter in 2008, ultimately admitting he only shot "small varmints." This campaign cycle, Romney has laughed about his lack of skill as a hunter, including with comedian Jeff Foxworthy in Alabama, whom he joked could help him figure out which end of the rifle to point.

The Republican frontrunner's speech also came, though, at one of the biggest recent flashpoints for gun rights in recent memory. The Trayvon Martin shooting in Florida has sparked nationwide coverage of "stand your ground" laws -- the self-defense law under which George Zimmerman, the man charged with second degree murder in Martin's death, is mounting his criminal defense.

Romney didn't address those laws in his speech, though his campaign said in a briefing with reporters on Friday morning that the former Massachusetts governor would defer to states to determine their own laws on that matter.

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/_news/20 ... peech?lite

interesting. he only said "gun" once, and did not even address the trayvon martin case and stand your ground laws...he can not take a firm position on that, so he is obviously pandering and whoring himself out. just look at his inconsistent past on gun rights... :roll:

he talked about freedom in general, pandering to the simpletons in the audience...

whygohome

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

"We need a President who will stand up for the rights of hunters, sportsmen, and those seeking to protect their homes and their families. President Obama has not; I will," he said.

"If we are going to safeguard our Second Amendment, it is time to elect a president who will defend the rights President Obama ignores or minimizes," Romney added. "And I will protect the Second Amendment rights of the American people."

Democrats shot back at Romney before his speech was even delivered.

“The president's record makes clear the he supports and respects the second amendment, and we'll fight back against any attempts to mislead voters. Mitt Romney is going to have difficulty explaining why he quadrupled fees on gun owners in Massachusetts then lied about being a lifelong hunter in an act of shameless pandering," Obama campaign spokesman Ben LaBolt said in a statement this morning. "That varmint won't hunt.”

Romney's history with second amendment and gun-ownership issues is a colorful one, from saying "I don't line up with the NRA," during his 1994 senate campaign, to being forced to backtrack on his skill as a hunter in 2008, ultimately admitting he only shot "small varmints." This campaign cycle, Romney has laughed about his lack of skill as a hunter, including with comedian Jeff Foxworthy in Alabama, whom he joked could help him figure out which end of the rifle to point.

The Republican frontrunner's speech also came, though, at one of the biggest recent flashpoints for gun rights in recent memory. The Trayvon Martin shooting in Florida has sparked nationwide coverage of "stand your ground" laws -- the self-defense law under which George Zimmerman, the man charged with second degree murder in Martin's death, is mounting his criminal defense.

Romney didn't address those laws in his speech, though his campaign said in a briefing with reporters on Friday morning that the former Massachusetts governor would defer to states to determine their own laws on that matter.

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/_news/20 ... peech?lite

interesting. he only said "gun" once, and did not even address the trayvon martin case and stand your ground laws...he can not take a firm position on that, so he is obviously pandering and whoring himself out. just look at his inconsistent past on gun rights... :roll:

he talked about freedom in general, pandering to the simpletons in the audience...

You're on a roll, gimmie. Keep asking for specifics. I'm still waiting on a list of burdensome regulations that the Obama administration has imposed on small businesses and corporations.
http://www.remappingdebate.org/article/ ... e?page=0,2 (a new site I am giving some attention to)
(http://themonkeycage.org/blog/2010/10/1 ... ng_debate/)
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fac ... _blog.html

usamamasan1

NRA members who watched the speech seemed not to care about Romney's record on guns, nor did they complain that he might not have been their first choice in the Republican race.

Romney checked the most important box: He is not Barack Obama.

https://m.mittromney.com/sites/default/ ... 1334257467

whygohome

usamamasan1 wrote:

NRA members who watched the speech seemed not to care about Romney's record on guns, nor did they complain that he might not have been their first choice in the Republican race.

Romney checked the most important box: He is not Barack Obama.

https://m.mittromney.com/sites/default/ ... 1334257467

Kids with guns
Kids with guns
Taking over
But it won't be long
They're mesmerized
Skeletons
Kids with guns
Kids with guns
Easy does it, easy does it, they got something to say no to

Drinking out (is she real, is she)
Pacifier (is she real, is she)
Vitamin souls (is she real, is she)
The street desire (is she real, is she)
Doesn't make sense to (is she real, is she)
But it won't be long (is she real, is she)
Kids with guns
Kids with guns
Easy does it, easy does it, they got something to say no to

And they're turning us into monsters
Turning us into fire
Turning us into monsters
It's all desire
It's all desire
It's all desire

Drinking out
Pacifier
Sinking soul
There you are
Doesn't make side to
But it won't be long
Cause kids with guns
Kids with guns
Easy does it, easy does it, they got something to say no to

And they're turning us into monsters
Turning us into fire
Turning us into monsters
It's all desire
It's all desire
It's all desire

usamamasan1

"I would not look to the U.S. Constitution, if I were drafting a constitution in the year 2012," are her exact words. And what would be a better option, in Ginsburg's opinion? The constitution of South Africa which provides no mention of a Right to Keep and Bear Arms in its lengthy bill of rights. You have a right to affordable housing, according to Ginsburg, but not the right to defend yourself inside your affordable home.

Imagine if one of the five justices who sided with the Second Amendment in the Heller or McDonald cases were to retire in the next four years. The likelihood of that happening is good, and we know that Barack Obama would replace him or her with a nominee who believes, just like Justice Ginsburg, that you and I don't actually have the Right to Keep and Bear Arms.

This is what's at stake in this year's elections. Will we have a president who believes that our Constitution is nothing more than an old piece of paper that should be discarded or ignored when he sees fit? Not if the NRA has anything to say about it. We've been fighting for our Second Amendment rights since 1871, but never has there been a more critical time for our firearm freedoms. The danger is real, the stakes are immense, and the task won't be easy. Together, however, I know NRA members will go "All In" this election season to deny Obama the opportunity to nominate any more anti-gun judges to the nation's high court.

usamamasan1

AND

"The Obama administration's assault on our economic freedom is the principal reason why the recovery has been so tepid -- why it couldn't meet their projections, let alone our expectations," Romney said.

CH156378

usamamasan1 wrote:

AND

"The Obama administration's assault on our economic freedom is the principal reason why the recovery has been so tepid -- why it couldn't meet their projections, let alone our expectations," Romney said.

viewtopic.php?f=13&t=181028&p=4186651&hilit=mitt+romney+mean+dog#p4186651

whygohome

usamamasan1 wrote:

"I would not look to the U.S. Constitution, if I were drafting a constitution in the year 2012," are her exact words. And what would be a better option, in Ginsburg's opinion? The constitution of South Africa which provides no mention of a Right to Keep and Bear Arms in its lengthy bill of rights. You have a right to affordable housing, according to Ginsburg, but not the right to defend yourself inside your affordable home.

Imagine if one of the five justices who sided with the Second Amendment in the Heller or McDonald cases were to retire in the next four years. The likelihood of that happening is good, and we know that Barack Obama would replace him or her with a nominee who believes, just like Justice Ginsburg, that you and I don't actually have the Right to Keep and Bear Arms.

This is what's at stake in this year's elections. Will we have a president who believes that our Constitution is nothing more than an old piece of paper that should be discarded or ignored when he sees fit? Not if the NRA has anything to say about it. We've been fighting for our Second Amendment rights since 1871, but never has there been a more critical time for our firearm freedoms. The danger is real, the stakes are immense, and the task won't be easy. Together, however, I know NRA members will go "All In" this election season to deny Obama the opportunity to nominate any more anti-gun judges to the nation's high court.

Seriously, dude: Go live in a cabin in Idaho. This bullshit has run its course.

mikepegg44

whygohome wrote:

You're on a roll, gimmie. Keep asking for specifics. I'm still waiting on a list of burdensome regulations that the Obama administration has imposed on small businesses and corporations.
http://www.remappingdebate.org/article/ ... e?page=0,2 (a new site I am giving some attention to)
(http://themonkeycage.org/blog/2010/10/1 ... ng_debate/)
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fac ... _blog.html

Some good, some bad but total costs and benefits are very tough to find in a simple format, but you may want to check the website below for a list of regulations, rules, and proposed changes that could impact many businesses around the country. If you are interested in the amount and cost of regulations you will find it

http://www.regulations.gov/#!home

cincybearcat

josevolution wrote:

You dillusional if you don't believe that the war on women was started by your GOP ....

Actually, everyone is delusional if they believe there is a war on women.

Sounds catchy though so it must be true!!!

mikepegg44

cincybearcat wrote:

josevolution wrote:

You dillusional if you don't believe that the war on women was started by your GOP ....

Actually, everyone is delusion if they believe there is a war on women.

Sounds catchy though so it must be true!!!

usamamasan1

Dick Cheney, just weeks after undergoing heart transplant surgery, plunged back into the political theater Saturday -- praising presumptive nominee Mitt Romney while slamming President Obama as an "unmitigated disaster."


The tough words came during an hour-and-15-minute talk at the Wyoming Republican Party state convention in Cheyenne on Saturday.
He sat in a plush chair throughout the long chat with daughter Liz Cheney and looked decidedly healthier than recent appearances where he has been gaunt and used a cane.

After Rick Santorum dropped out of the race this past week, Cheney in his address urged the party to pull together behind Romney. He said the former Massachusetts governor would do a "whale of a job."

His opinion of the sitting president was less flattering.

"He has been an unmitigated disaster to the country," Cheney said of Obama.


glad your back Dick. Keep fighting the good fight.

AND

Acting very much like the Republican presidential nominee, Mitt Romney sent a curt message to President Barack Obama today: "Start packing."

The message, delivered with a chuckle, came in an exclusive interview with "World News" anchor Diane Sawyer who asked the presumptive GOP nominee if he had something to say to the president.

Romney said Obama's "policies have not helped the American people. They have not helped get jobs, they have not helped raise incomes and they've added trillions of dollars of debt."


AND

"If Barack Obama becomes the president in November again, I will either be dead or in jail by this time next year," Nugent said, according to a video posted on YouTube by the NRA. "If you can't go home and get everybody in your lives to clean house in this vile, evil America hated administration, I don't even know what you're made out of."

He accused the government of "wiping its ass with the Constitution you're living under a rock some place" and labeled members of the Obama administration, including the vice president, attorney general and secretary of state "criminals."

"We need to ride into that battlefield and chop their heads off in November. Am I, any questions?" Nugent said.

jimc3

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

jimc3 wrote:

please, there is no "war on women" from either side. White House was wrong to start this, Romney camp was wrong to try to flip it back on them. every non-evil human values women.

what happened to the whole post-Gabby Giffords "let's tone down the violent rhetoric"? a WAR on women? seriously?

this is all just talking points babble to win the invented battle of the day in the never-ending 24hr cable news cycle.

hopefully soon everyone will start to talk about real issues.

threatening to roll back the rights that women have enjoyed for the last several decades IS a war on women's rights. if you will not call it a war, what would you call it? an assault? to republicans does that mean the "women's right's experiment" has ended in failure???

these proposed laws are real. they are not made up. if they were made up they would not be being fucking enacted in arizona and mississippi and tennessee.

I never said you couldn't have a problem with any laws.

My only point was, calling it a WAR only heightens the rhetoric to the point where both sides get super-irrational-defensive and no meaningful dialogue to solve the actual issues takes place.

Do you really think that any lawmakers that proposed and enacted any laws in these areas of concern got together and said, "Damn these women! We've got to stop them now! People, this is WAR!"?

Lawmakers / policymakers have their opinions about what is right and wrong, and then what is/should be legal and illegal. 99% of the time it comes from a non-evil / non-violent place.

The Republicans know they are in for a tough fight this November. Whatever you may think of their ideas/opinions, you can't think that they are stupid enough to make a centerpiece of their strategy to alienate half of the population by declaring WAR on them.

and any "rolling back" of rights that is proposed / enacted is not a "war" or an "assault". those are terms defined in VIOLENCE. regardless of what you think of what they are doing, there is no violence going on.

Language / vocabulary is very important.

usamamasan1

There are a lot of numbers on the rise under President Obama: government spending, home foreclosures, gas prices, and national debt.

Another figure ticked upward this last week: holes golfed by President Obama.


 
Between his "official" and "nonpolitical" visits to swing states, the President found time to play another 18 holes this weekend. As millions of Americans continue to struggle to find work, President Obama has now played a total of 1,710 holes since taking office. That's 95 rounds of golf.

A lot of Americans have had to make sacrifices these last four years. We would expect our President to do the same.

Donate $18 to help send Barack Obama on a permanent golf vacation:

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Thanks.

Zac Moffatt
Digital Director

Jason P

usamamasan1 wrote:

Between his "official" and "nonpolitical" visits to swing states, the President found time to play another 18 holes this weekend. As millions of Americans continue to struggle to find work, President Obama has now played a total of 1,710 holes since taking office. That's 95 rounds of golf.

Obama is even more Republican then I thought! I guess Boehner must really be rubbing off on him.

:geek:

keeponrockin

Is going golfing any worse than a President watching 2 movies a week?

JonnyPistachio

keeponrockin wrote:

Is going golfing any worse than a President watching 2 movies a week?

Or reading silly books with the amazing ability of reading upside down?

usamamasan1

Rudy Giuliani formally endorsed Mitt Romney on Monday, insisting that the former Massachusetts governor has clinched the Republican nomination "fair and square."
In an interview on "Fox & Friends," the former New York City mayor said Romney has proven he's the "most effective Republican" in the race.
"Mitt has won fair and square," Giuliani said. "He's taken on everybody and won an incredible number of primaries, and he's got the resume and background for the job."


truth be told.

Woot