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PJfanwillneverleave1

^^^
Or to Elizabeth May when she wins this upcoming election.

PJ_Soul

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJ_Soul said:

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PJ_Soul said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJ_Soul said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJ_Soul said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJ_Soul said:

1ThoughtKnown said:

PJ_Soul said:

I get the impression that you assume the kind of help available to your family member would be rendered impossible of the queen wasn't the head of state. But I've been saying that I'd like that to continue and get rid of her as head of state, so I think it's actually you who is missing my point? Which is to maintain the commonwealth membership but get rid of the governmental designation. This would obviously be done through negotiation. It's not like it's Britain being good for Canadians but Canada doing absolutely nothing for Britain.

I know it's symbolic. That's what pisses me off, and I would like it to change. I do not like that Canada is symbolically tied to the British monarchy. That's what i have been saying all along. I don't know why you seem to think i believe there is somehow more to it. If you are not interested in the monarchy I actually have no idea why you are disagreeing with what I'm saying.

I'll spell it out for you. He.Would.Not.Have.Gotten.That.Treatment.Had.The.Queen.Not.Been.Our.Head.Of.State.

I don't question why that is, I just know that's they way it is.

Wtf? Are you even reading what I'm saying??

why would his grandfather have received free healthcare from Britain if we were no longer part of the commonwealth? because if you pitch the queen as head of state, we aren't in the commonwealth anymore.

it's not like canada is ruled by the monarchy in any way shape or form. you have stated our association with the british royals pisses you off, but I don't believe you've stated WHY it pisses you off. care to elaborate?

for the record, I think the royal family is a joke. I don't get why anyone gives a flying shit about them. they are nothing. medievil rich people living in modern times. but I get the history, and why they still have a seat at the table, even if that seat is basically the same seat as your crazy old uncle at thanksgiving. nice to have him there, but he's not making any familial decisions, but piss him off, and he might shit in your mashed potatoes.

I guess you didn't read what I said either.

yes I did. I apologize if I missed something. not trying to be combative.

The part you missed is that I said IF Canada could still be a commonwealth without the Queen as head of state, that's what I want. I talked about working out a deal, etc. IF. I.e., things would have to different than they are now.

I didn't miss that. I just didn't think it answered my question. Why does it bother you that the queen is head of state?

I was responding to the first paragraph of your previous post.

fair enough. but why no queen as HOS?

Answered.

well don't all countries have something similar? if you weren't beholden to the Queen, you'd be to Stephen Harper.

At least he's Canadian. That would at least make some sense to me. But ideally, we should all be beholden to the nation of Canada, not some idiot or old lady that none of us even care about.

dignin

PJ_Soul said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJ_Soul said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJ_Soul said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJ_Soul said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJ_Soul said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJ_Soul said:

1ThoughtKnown said:

PJ_Soul said:

I get the impression that you assume the kind of help available to your family member would be rendered impossible of the queen wasn't the head of state. But I've been saying that I'd like that to continue and get rid of her as head of state, so I think it's actually you who is missing my point? Which is to maintain the commonwealth membership but get rid of the governmental designation. This would obviously be done through negotiation. It's not like it's Britain being good for Canadians but Canada doing absolutely nothing for Britain.

I know it's symbolic. That's what pisses me off, and I would like it to change. I do not like that Canada is symbolically tied to the British monarchy. That's what i have been saying all along. I don't know why you seem to think i believe there is somehow more to it. If you are not interested in the monarchy I actually have no idea why you are disagreeing with what I'm saying.

I'll spell it out for you. He.Would.Not.Have.Gotten.That.Treatment.Had.The.Queen.Not.Been.Our.Head.Of.State.

I don't question why that is, I just know that's they way it is.

Wtf? Are you even reading what I'm saying??

why would his grandfather have received free healthcare from Britain if we were no longer part of the commonwealth? because if you pitch the queen as head of state, we aren't in the commonwealth anymore.

it's not like canada is ruled by the monarchy in any way shape or form. you have stated our association with the british royals pisses you off, but I don't believe you've stated WHY it pisses you off. care to elaborate?

for the record, I think the royal family is a joke. I don't get why anyone gives a flying shit about them. they are nothing. medievil rich people living in modern times. but I get the history, and why they still have a seat at the table, even if that seat is basically the same seat as your crazy old uncle at thanksgiving. nice to have him there, but he's not making any familial decisions, but piss him off, and he might shit in your mashed potatoes.

I guess you didn't read what I said either.

yes I did. I apologize if I missed something. not trying to be combative.

The part you missed is that I said IF Canada could still be a commonwealth without the Queen as head of state, that's what I want. I talked about working out a deal, etc. IF. I.e., things would have to different than they are now.

I didn't miss that. I just didn't think it answered my question. Why does it bother you that the queen is head of state?

I was responding to the first paragraph of your previous post.

fair enough. but why no queen as HOS?

Answered.

well don't all countries have something similar? if you weren't beholden to the Queen, you'd be to Stephen Harper.

At least he's Canadian. That would at least make some sense to me. But ideally, we should all be beholden to the nation of Canada, not some idiot or old lady that none of us even care about.

Or the charter

PJ_Soul

dignin said:

PJ_Soul said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJ_Soul said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJ_Soul said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJ_Soul said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJ_Soul said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJ_Soul said:

1ThoughtKnown said:

PJ_Soul said:

I get the impression that you assume the kind of help available to your family member would be rendered impossible of the queen wasn't the head of state. But I've been saying that I'd like that to continue and get rid of her as head of state, so I think it's actually you who is missing my point? Which is to maintain the commonwealth membership but get rid of the governmental designation. This would obviously be done through negotiation. It's not like it's Britain being good for Canadians but Canada doing absolutely nothing for Britain.

I know it's symbolic. That's what pisses me off, and I would like it to change. I do not like that Canada is symbolically tied to the British monarchy. That's what i have been saying all along. I don't know why you seem to think i believe there is somehow more to it. If you are not interested in the monarchy I actually have no idea why you are disagreeing with what I'm saying.

I'll spell it out for you. He.Would.Not.Have.Gotten.That.Treatment.Had.The.Queen.Not.Been.Our.Head.Of.State.

I don't question why that is, I just know that's they way it is.

Wtf? Are you even reading what I'm saying??

why would his grandfather have received free healthcare from Britain if we were no longer part of the commonwealth? because if you pitch the queen as head of state, we aren't in the commonwealth anymore.

it's not like canada is ruled by the monarchy in any way shape or form. you have stated our association with the british royals pisses you off, but I don't believe you've stated WHY it pisses you off. care to elaborate?

for the record, I think the royal family is a joke. I don't get why anyone gives a flying shit about them. they are nothing. medievil rich people living in modern times. but I get the history, and why they still have a seat at the table, even if that seat is basically the same seat as your crazy old uncle at thanksgiving. nice to have him there, but he's not making any familial decisions, but piss him off, and he might shit in your mashed potatoes.

I guess you didn't read what I said either.

yes I did. I apologize if I missed something. not trying to be combative.

The part you missed is that I said IF Canada could still be a commonwealth without the Queen as head of state, that's what I want. I talked about working out a deal, etc. IF. I.e., things would have to different than they are now.

I didn't miss that. I just didn't think it answered my question. Why does it bother you that the queen is head of state?

I was responding to the first paragraph of your previous post.

fair enough. but why no queen as HOS?

Answered.

well don't all countries have something similar? if you weren't beholden to the Queen, you'd be to Stephen Harper.

At least he's Canadian. That would at least make some sense to me. But ideally, we should all be beholden to the nation of Canada, not some idiot or old lady that none of us even care about.

Or the charter

Yes, good idea.

1ThoughtKnown

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJ_Soul said:

1ThoughtKnown said:

PJ_Soul said:

I get the impression that you assume the kind of help available to your family member would be rendered impossible of the queen wasn't the head of state. But I've been saying that I'd like that to continue and get rid of her as head of state, so I think it's actually you who is missing my point? Which is to maintain the commonwealth membership but get rid of the governmental designation. This would obviously be done through negotiation. It's not like it's Britain being good for Canadians but Canada doing absolutely nothing for Britain.

I know it's symbolic. That's what pisses me off, and I would like it to change. I do not like that Canada is symbolically tied to the British monarchy. That's what i have been saying all along. I don't know why you seem to think i believe there is somehow more to it. If you are not interested in the monarchy I actually have no idea why you are disagreeing with what I'm saying.

I'll spell it out for you. He.Would.Not.Have.Gotten.That.Treatment.Had.The.Queen.Not.Been.Our.Head.Of.State.

I don't question why that is, I just know that's they way it is.

Wtf? Are you even reading what I'm saying??

why would his grandfather have received free healthcare from Britain if we were no longer part of the commonwealth? because if you pitch the queen as head of state, we aren't in the commonwealth anymore.

it's not like canada is ruled by the monarchy in any way shape or form. you have stated our association with the british royals pisses you off, but I don't believe you've stated WHY it pisses you off. care to elaborate?

for the record, I think the royal family is a joke. I don't get why anyone gives a flying shit about them. they are nothing. medievil rich people living in modern times. but I get the history, and why they still have a seat at the table, even if that seat is basically the same seat as your crazy old uncle at thanksgiving. nice to have him there, but he's not making any familial decisions, but piss him off, and he might shit in your mashed potatoes.

Headstrong, headstone.
Thanks man, you get it. The first paragraph is the answer. If for NO other reason, Our allegiance to the Queen saved my grandfather's life. PJ"soul" is oblivious to that fact.

oftenreading

1ThoughtKnown said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJ_Soul said:

1ThoughtKnown said:

PJ_Soul said:

I get the impression that you assume the kind of help available to your family member would be rendered impossible of the queen wasn't the head of state. But I've been saying that I'd like that to continue and get rid of her as head of state, so I think it's actually you who is missing my point? Which is to maintain the commonwealth membership but get rid of the governmental designation. This would obviously be done through negotiation. It's not like it's Britain being good for Canadians but Canada doing absolutely nothing for Britain.

I know it's symbolic. That's what pisses me off, and I would like it to change. I do not like that Canada is symbolically tied to the British monarchy. That's what i have been saying all along. I don't know why you seem to think i believe there is somehow more to it. If you are not interested in the monarchy I actually have no idea why you are disagreeing with what I'm saying.

I'll spell it out for you. He.Would.Not.Have.Gotten.That.Treatment.Had.The.Queen.Not.Been.Our.Head.Of.State.

I don't question why that is, I just know that's they way it is.

Wtf? Are you even reading what I'm saying??

why would his grandfather have received free healthcare from Britain if we were no longer part of the commonwealth? because if you pitch the queen as head of state, we aren't in the commonwealth anymore.

it's not like canada is ruled by the monarchy in any way shape or form. you have stated our association with the british royals pisses you off, but I don't believe you've stated WHY it pisses you off. care to elaborate?

for the record, I think the royal family is a joke. I don't get why anyone gives a flying shit about them. they are nothing. medievil rich people living in modern times. but I get the history, and why they still have a seat at the table, even if that seat is basically the same seat as your crazy old uncle at thanksgiving. nice to have him there, but he's not making any familial decisions, but piss him off, and he might shit in your mashed potatoes.

Headstrong, headstone.
Thanks man, you get it. The first paragraph is the answer. If for NO other reason, Our allegiance to the Queen saved my grandfather's life. PJ"soul" is oblivious to that fact.

The fact that someone disagrees with you does not make them oblivious to facts, and putting Soul in quotation marks is a cheap shot.

She is not disputing that Canada's membership in the Commonwealth as it currently stands got your grandfather some medical benefits. She is instead arguing that there could possibly be a different way to achieve that. Probably not, but it's possible.

PJfanwillneverleave1

oftenreading said:

1ThoughtKnown said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJ_Soul said:

1ThoughtKnown said:

PJ_Soul said:

I get the impression that you assume the kind of help available to your family member would be rendered impossible of the queen wasn't the head of state. But I've been saying that I'd like that to continue and get rid of her as head of state, so I think it's actually you who is missing my point? Which is to maintain the commonwealth membership but get rid of the governmental designation. This would obviously be done through negotiation. It's not like it's Britain being good for Canadians but Canada doing absolutely nothing for Britain.

I know it's symbolic. That's what pisses me off, and I would like it to change. I do not like that Canada is symbolically tied to the British monarchy. That's what i have been saying all along. I don't know why you seem to think i believe there is somehow more to it. If you are not interested in the monarchy I actually have no idea why you are disagreeing with what I'm saying.

I'll spell it out for you. He.Would.Not.Have.Gotten.That.Treatment.Had.The.Queen.Not.Been.Our.Head.Of.State.

I don't question why that is, I just know that's they way it is.

Wtf? Are you even reading what I'm saying??

why would his grandfather have received free healthcare from Britain if we were no longer part of the commonwealth? because if you pitch the queen as head of state, we aren't in the commonwealth anymore.

it's not like canada is ruled by the monarchy in any way shape or form. you have stated our association with the british royals pisses you off, but I don't believe you've stated WHY it pisses you off. care to elaborate?

for the record, I think the royal family is a joke. I don't get why anyone gives a flying shit about them. they are nothing. medievil rich people living in modern times. but I get the history, and why they still have a seat at the table, even if that seat is basically the same seat as your crazy old uncle at thanksgiving. nice to have him there, but he's not making any familial decisions, but piss him off, and he might shit in your mashed potatoes.

Headstrong, headstone.
Thanks man, you get it. The first paragraph is the answer. If for NO other reason, Our allegiance to the Queen saved my grandfather's life. PJ"soul" is oblivious to that fact.

The fact that someone disagrees with you does not make them oblivious to facts, and putting Soul in quotation marks is a cheap shot.

She is not disputing that Canada's membership in the Commonwealth as it currently stands got your grandfather some medical benefits. She is instead arguing that there could possibly be a different way to achieve that. Probably not, but it's possible.

Ladies, gentleman
Canadian Politics
No cheap shots allowed.

PJfanwillneverleave1

HughFreakingDillon said:

I nominate Gord Downie.

I would vote on his namesake.
Jeff Martin?

oftenreading

My grandfather was vacationing in England and had a medical emergency. He needed some prescription drugs. He asked where he paid for them and they told him "you are Canadian right? You don't pay anything."
He couldn't believe it, because we are commonwealth partners, the hospital visit and prescription drugs were covered. Brilliant.

An American would not get that treatment. Word.

So just for fun, I decided to look into what the truth of your statement is (not that I'm trying to argue that your grandfather didn't get the medical care you report, just whether it was in fact because he was Canadian and that similar coverage would not be offered to an American). And guess what? It appears your supposition that he got free care because he was from a Commonwealth member state is wrong.

According to the Government of Canada website, "There is no reciprocal agreement on health care between the UK and Canada."

Furthermore, in the UK for everyone: "Emergency treatment is free. If you have an accident or need emergency medical treatment, you will receive that treatment free of charge, regardless of your nationality or place of residence as long as that emergency treatment is delivered at:

a primary care facility or General Practitioner's office, known as a GP's Surgery
a hospital emergency room, called Accident and Emergency (A&E) or Casualty in UK hospitals.
A walk-in center providing services similar to an emergency room."

Note that this applies to all visitors to the country, not just Canadians. Americans welcome, too!

Finally, guess who does actually get free medical care outside of an emergency in the UK? Not Canadians. Not Commonwealth citizens. It's EEA (European Economic Area) country citizens. Plus the Swiss, because who doesn't love the Swiss.

So all this has been a tempest in a teapot

PJ_Soul

How very enlightening!

PJ_Soul

1ThoughtKnown said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJ_Soul said:

1ThoughtKnown said:

PJ_Soul said:

I get the impression that you assume the kind of help available to your family member would be rendered impossible of the queen wasn't the head of state. But I've been saying that I'd like that to continue and get rid of her as head of state, so I think it's actually you who is missing my point? Which is to maintain the commonwealth membership but get rid of the governmental designation. This would obviously be done through negotiation. It's not like it's Britain being good for Canadians but Canada doing absolutely nothing for Britain.

I know it's symbolic. That's what pisses me off, and I would like it to change. I do not like that Canada is symbolically tied to the British monarchy. That's what i have been saying all along. I don't know why you seem to think i believe there is somehow more to it. If you are not interested in the monarchy I actually have no idea why you are disagreeing with what I'm saying.

I'll spell it out for you. He.Would.Not.Have.Gotten.That.Treatment.Had.The.Queen.Not.Been.Our.Head.Of.State.

I don't question why that is, I just know that's they way it is.

Wtf? Are you even reading what I'm saying??

why would his grandfather have received free healthcare from Britain if we were no longer part of the commonwealth? because if you pitch the queen as head of state, we aren't in the commonwealth anymore.

it's not like canada is ruled by the monarchy in any way shape or form. you have stated our association with the british royals pisses you off, but I don't believe you've stated WHY it pisses you off. care to elaborate?

for the record, I think the royal family is a joke. I don't get why anyone gives a flying shit about them. they are nothing. medievil rich people living in modern times. but I get the history, and why they still have a seat at the table, even if that seat is basically the same seat as your crazy old uncle at thanksgiving. nice to have him there, but he's not making any familial decisions, but piss him off, and he might shit in your mashed potatoes.

Headstrong, headstone.
Thanks man, you get it. The first paragraph is the answer. If for NO other reason, Our allegiance to the Queen saved my grandfather's life. PJ"soul" is oblivious to that fact.

I guess your allegiance to the Queen didn't save your grandfather's life after all.
What's with the quotation marks? I cannot actually believe that you took anything I said as somehow heartless - how totally ridiculous on a few different levels.

dignin

oftenreading said:

My grandfather was vacationing in England and had a medical emergency. He needed some prescription drugs. He asked where he paid for them and they told him "you are Canadian right? You don't pay anything."
He couldn't believe it, because we are commonwealth partners, the hospital visit and prescription drugs were covered. Brilliant.

An American would not get that treatment. Word.

So just for fun, I decided to look into what the truth of your statement is (not that I'm trying to argue that your grandfather didn't get the medical care you report, just whether it was in fact because he was Canadian and that similar coverage would not be offered to an American). And guess what? It appears your supposition that he got free care because he was from a Commonwealth member state is wrong.

According to the Government of Canada website, "There is no reciprocal agreement on health care between the UK and Canada."

Furthermore, in the UK for everyone: "Emergency treatment is free. If you have an accident or need emergency medical treatment, you will receive that treatment free of charge, regardless of your nationality or place of residence as long as that emergency treatment is delivered at:

a primary care facility or General Practitioner's office, known as a GP's Surgery
a hospital emergency room, called Accident and Emergency (A&E) or Casualty in UK hospitals.
A walk-in center providing services similar to an emergency room."

Note that this applies to all visitors to the country, not just Canadians. Americans welcome, too!

Finally, guess who does actually get free medical care outside of an emergency in the UK? Not Canadians. Not Commonwealth citizens. It's EEA (European Economic Area) country citizens. Plus the Swiss, because who doesn't love the Swiss.

So all this has been a tempest in a teapot

Oh shit! Funny thing those damn facts. Well done Often...doing the homework I'm far to lazy to do.

1ThoughtKnown

That wasn't the way he told the story, and who is going to dispute their grandfather?

I digress, but having said that, I still don't care whether or not the queen is our head of state.
It really doesn't mean anything and we are after all, a parliamentary democracy.

You want to take away French civil law from Quebec? Good luck with that one lol

Ed the Sock was on AM 770 in Calgary today. He had some very interesting political views.
Who knew Ed the Sock was still around? He was promoting a new charity to provide socks to the homeless. Apparently the homeless can't understand why people don't donate socks. They get cold in the winter (it's canada for chrissakes).

HughFreakingDillon

1ThoughtKnown said:

That wasn't the way he told the story, and who is going to dispute their grandfather?

I digress, but having said that, I still don't care whether or not the queen is our head of state.
It really doesn't mean anything and we are after all, a parliamentary democracy.

You want to take away French civil law from Quebec? Good luck with that one lol

Ed the Sock was on AM 770 in Calgary today. He had some very interesting political views.
Who knew Ed the Sock was still around? He was promoting a new charity to provide socks to the homeless. Apparently the homeless can't understand why people don't donate socks. They get cold in the winter (it's canada for chrissakes).

I had NO Idea Ed the Sock was still around! that's awesome! I loved it on MuchMusic when he'd do interviews!

PJfanwillneverleave1

So does this article mean the NDP will win?http://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/election/liberals-conservatives-in-dead-heat-with-ndp-trailing-nanos-poll-1.2587770
or not?
NDP- always spending others money. A lot was spent on a useless campaign by them.
Why do NDP supporters consistently think every federal election that "This is the year"!
Jack Layton (rip) did no favours for the cheerleading of the Orange Wave.
NDP is not fit to run a country and should stick to small minded provincial communities.

edit - and for good measure http://www.macleans.ca/politics/ottawa/is-quebec-waving-goodbye-to-the-orange-wave/

and the niqab thingy http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/canada-election-2015-niqab-quebec-1.3250028

1ThoughtKnown

dignin said:

oftenreading said:

My grandfather was vacationing in England and had a medical emergency. He needed some prescription drugs. He asked where he paid for them and they told him "you are Canadian right? You don't pay anything."
He couldn't believe it, because we are commonwealth partners, the hospital visit and prescription drugs were covered. Brilliant.

An American would not get that treatment. Word.

So just for fun, I decided to look into what the truth of your statement is (not that I'm trying to argue that your grandfather didn't get the medical care you report, just whether it was in fact because he was Canadian and that similar coverage would not be offered to an American). And guess what? It appears your supposition that he got free care because he was from a Commonwealth member state is wrong.

According to the Government of Canada website, "There is no reciprocal agreement on health care between the UK and Canada."

Furthermore, in the UK for everyone: "Emergency treatment is free. If you have an accident or need emergency medical treatment, you will receive that treatment free of charge, regardless of your nationality or place of residence as long as that emergency treatment is delivered at:

a primary care facility or General Practitioner's office, known as a GP's Surgery
a hospital emergency room, called Accident and Emergency (A&E) or Casualty in UK hospitals.
A walk-in center providing services similar to an emergency room."

Note that this applies to all visitors to the country, not just Canadians. Americans welcome, too!

Finally, guess who does actually get free medical care outside of an emergency in the UK? Not Canadians. Not Commonwealth citizens. It's EEA (European Economic Area) country citizens. Plus the Swiss, because who doesn't love the Swiss.

So all this has been a tempest in a teapot

Oh shit! Funny thing those damn facts. Well done Often...doing the homework I'm far to lazy to do.

By the way, the point was not just the medical attention he received, it was the fact his prescription drugs were FREE. These were expensive drugs (you know the pharaceutical companies).
I urge you to check those damn facts to determine if Canadians get a little better deal in Britain due to our allegiance to the Queen.
In addition, yes it was a cheap shot to put soul in quotations, but her flippancy regarding a dicey situation which makes me proud of my ancestral homeland because of her own problem with the monarchy (something to do with her dad constantly talking about it) was surprising from a woman, as they are usually a little more in touch with their feelings than a Neanderthal.
He appreciated the way he was treated, everything was covered, and he was told it was because he was CANADIAN.

We negotiated our succession from Britain as opposed to fighting for it, which is why I believe we have a more peaceful, less gun-happy country today than our southern neighbours.


Anyways...

Ed the Sock nailed it. Mulcair is freaky, he never blinks. His eyes are always wide open like an alien lol

oftenreading

1ThoughtKnown said:

dignin said:

oftenreading said:

My grandfather was vacationing in England and had a medical emergency. He needed some prescription drugs. He asked where he paid for them and they told him "you are Canadian right? You don't pay anything."
He couldn't believe it, because we are commonwealth partners, the hospital visit and prescription drugs were covered. Brilliant.

An American would not get that treatment. Word.

So just for fun, I decided to look into what the truth of your statement is (not that I'm trying to argue that your grandfather didn't get the medical care you report, just whether it was in fact because he was Canadian and that similar coverage would not be offered to an American). And guess what? It appears your supposition that he got free care because he was from a Commonwealth member state is wrong.

According to the Government of Canada website, "There is no reciprocal agreement on health care between the UK and Canada."

Furthermore, in the UK for everyone: "Emergency treatment is free. If you have an accident or need emergency medical treatment, you will receive that treatment free of charge, regardless of your nationality or place of residence as long as that emergency treatment is delivered at:

a primary care facility or General Practitioner's office, known as a GP's Surgery
a hospital emergency room, called Accident and Emergency (A&E) or Casualty in UK hospitals.
A walk-in center providing services similar to an emergency room."

Note that this applies to all visitors to the country, not just Canadians. Americans welcome, too!

Finally, guess who does actually get free medical care outside of an emergency in the UK? Not Canadians. Not Commonwealth citizens. It's EEA (European Economic Area) country citizens. Plus the Swiss, because who doesn't love the Swiss.

So all this has been a tempest in a teapot

Oh shit! Funny thing those damn facts. Well done Often...doing the homework I'm far to lazy to do.

By the way, the point was not just the medical attention he received, it was the fact his prescription drugs were FREE. These were expensive drugs (you know the pharaceutical companies).
I urge you to check those damn facts to determine if Canadians get a little better deal in Britain due to our allegiance to the Queen.
In addition, yes it was a cheap shot to put soul in quotations, but her flippancy regarding a dicey situation which makes me proud of my ancestral homeland because of her own problem with the monarchy (something to do with her dad constantly talking about it) was surprising from a woman, as they are usually a little more in touch with their feelings than a Neanderthal.
He appreciated the way he was treated, everything was covered, and he was told it was because he was CANADIAN.

We negotiated our succession from Britain as opposed to fighting for it, which is why I believe we have a more peaceful, less gun-happy country today than our southern neighbours.


Anyways...

Ed the Sock nailed it. Mulcair is freaky, he never blinks. His eyes are always wide open like an alien lol

We're all happy your grandfather got good care, and no-one expected you to grill the guy with the flashlight in his eyes, but yes, I did check the damn facts and Canadians don't get any special treatment in the UK with respect to health care. Maybe the staff just really liked him.

dignin

If this is a ballot box issue for you...you're a dummy.

http://www.nationalpost.com/m/wp/blog.html?b=news.nationalpost.com//full-comment/andrew-coyne-to-uncover-or-not-to-uncover-why-the-niqab-issue-is-ridiculous

PJfanwillneverleave1

You are calling the majority of Canadians dummies then.
Reaction in Canada is strong to the NDP stance on this.
Thus making the NDP dummed down to what Canada does/does not care about.
NDP - All round Dummies at the federal level.

1ThoughtKnown

oftenreading said:

1ThoughtKnown said:

dignin said:

oftenreading said:

My grandfather was vacationing in England and had a medical emergency. He needed some prescription drugs. He asked where he paid for them and they told him "you are Canadian right? You don't pay anything."
He couldn't believe it, because we are commonwealth partners, the hospital visit and prescription drugs were covered. Brilliant.

An American would not get that treatment. Word.

So just for fun, I decided to look into what the truth of your statement is (not that I'm trying to argue that your grandfather didn't get the medical care you report, just whether it was in fact because he was Canadian and that similar coverage would not be offered to an American). And guess what? It appears your supposition that he got free care because he was from a Commonwealth member state is wrong.

According to the Government of Canada website, "There is no reciprocal agreement on health care between the UK and Canada."

Furthermore, in the UK for everyone: "Emergency treatment is free. If you have an accident or need emergency medical treatment, you will receive that treatment free of charge, regardless of your nationality or place of residence as long as that emergency treatment is delivered at:

a primary care facility or General Practitioner's office, known as a GP's Surgery
a hospital emergency room, called Accident and Emergency (A&E) or Casualty in UK hospitals.
A walk-in center providing services similar to an emergency room."

Note that this applies to all visitors to the country, not just Canadians. Americans welcome, too!

Finally, guess who does actually get free medical care outside of an emergency in the UK? Not Canadians. Not Commonwealth citizens. It's EEA (European Economic Area) country citizens. Plus the Swiss, because who doesn't love the Swiss.

So all this has been a tempest in a teapot

Oh shit! Funny thing those damn facts. Well done Often...doing the homework I'm far to lazy to do.

By the way, the point was not just the medical attention he received, it was the fact his prescription drugs were FREE. These were expensive drugs (you know the pharaceutical companies).
I urge you to check those damn facts to determine if Canadians get a little better deal in Britain due to our allegiance to the Queen.
In addition, yes it was a cheap shot to put soul in quotations, but her flippancy regarding a dicey situation which makes me proud of my ancestral homeland because of her own problem with the monarchy (something to do with her dad constantly talking about it) was surprising from a woman, as they are usually a little more in touch with their feelings than a Neanderthal.
He appreciated the way he was treated, everything was covered, and he was told it was because he was CANADIAN.

We negotiated our succession from Britain as opposed to fighting for it, which is why I believe we have a more peaceful, less gun-happy country today than our southern neighbours.


Anyways...

Ed the Sock nailed it. Mulcair is freaky, he never blinks. His eyes are always wide open like an alien lol

We're all happy your grandfather got good care, and no-one expected you to grill the guy with the flashlight in his eyes, but yes, I did check the damn facts and Canadians don't get any special treatment in the UK with respect to health care. Maybe the staff just really liked him.

Nothing in your statement had anything to do with prescription drugs. In Canada we have to pay for prescription drugs (unless you have insurance but it's. It the gov't paying) but not a Canadian in England.
Your facts show the treatment was free, not all the prescription drugs he got until he got home.
It's really amazing how on any topic here it seems to be BC ppl vs Alberta. What the hell did we do to you people anyways