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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 49,577
    dankind said:
    I must not be an average person. 
    We started getting groceries delivered two years ago and have continued. We're the most average people you've ever met!
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  • dankinddankind Posts: 20,840
    We started getting groceries delivered two years ago and have continued. We're the most average people you've ever met!
    We do get some groceries delivered, but we hardly ever go out for pet supplies.

    We have found that Chewy and other delivery services/subscription services have been both cheaper and more convenient in that arena. Then again, we have a goddamn menagerie (two dogs, two cats, two guinea pigs, and two fish in separate aquariums). Maybe if you just have a single pet, the discounts aren't as great. And, of course, the shipping isn't free if your order is smaller. So it might not save the "average person" as much time and money. Not sure.
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  • CROJAM95CROJAM95 Posts: 10,703
    Our relationship to oil is like a heroin addicts to the drug/dealer

    Its all bullshit...they call it a market...yea for dummies

    there was big push years ago to go electric, raise MPG's for manufacturers....then the worst thing happened, Prices went down

    Pack to buying V8's & Sticking heads in the sand

    Look it, its worse & will get worse 


  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 9,704
    edited March 2022
    Lol....there will always be an excuse I guess. 
    An excuse to not pay someone to delivery my groceries? Yeah, I have lots of excuses not to do that.
  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 9,704
    dankind said:
    We do get some groceries delivered, but we hardly ever go out for pet supplies.

    We have found that Chewy and other delivery services/subscription services have been both cheaper and more convenient in that arena. Then again, we have a goddamn menagerie (two dogs, two cats, two guinea pigs, and two fish in separate aquariums). Maybe if you just have a single pet, the discounts aren't as great. And, of course, the shipping isn't free if your order is smaller. So it might not save the "average person" as much time and money. Not sure.
    We signed up for Costco membership specifically for their dog food. It was better quality than most and a lot cheaper. Now with kids we get all their snacks and lunch ingredients there too, as well as random frozen foods and vegetables that are better quality than anywhere I see. Not everything is available for delivery last time I checked, but that was a while ago.
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 49,577
    CROJAM95 said:
    Our relationship to oil is like a heroin addicts to the drug/dealer

    Its all bullshit...they call it a market...yea for dummies

    there was big push years ago to go electric, raise MPG's for manufacturers....then the worst thing happened, Prices went down

    Pack to buying V8's & Sticking heads in the sand

    Look it, its worse & will get worse 





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  • static111static111 Posts: 4,930
    dankind said:
    Saves on gas consumption all around because your order is only one of multiple orders that the delivery driver has stashed in their vehicle.
    Not necessarily, I used to deliver groceries a couple of years ago uber eats, instacart etc.. it might save the individual customer on fuel consumption, but at least in austin I don't think these services result in a net negative gas consumption. Sometimes you would get one batch and drive round trip 30 miles, and maybe you have three batches but they are all 20 miles from each other.  Those apps are inefficient in their routing,  

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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,266
    mace1229 said:
    But do other countries have the same housing grid and commute that we have? What I mean is, if you look at a city like LA, it’s way too expensive for most people to live in LA who work there. Many people drive 30-60 minutes just to get to work in all directions. I just can’t see a rail system that can cover that much ground and be effective.
    When I’ve traveled more places resemble something like New York where it’s compact, things are in walking distance, you can live for months without ever being more than a few miles from your house.So a rail or bus system doesn’t need to be too complicated and wouldn’t take hours. 

    But look at Southern California. People drive 60+ miles from the east in Riverside, drive 40 miles from the south from Orange, drive 60 miles from the north in Lancaster area and 20 miles from the west in Venice to get to their day job in LA. I can’t imagine how complicated that rail system would have to be. And with all the stop, how many hours would that take for the average person?
    And it’s not just day jobs, it’s medical appointments, specialty shops, etc they have to travel for.
    Many major cities have similar problems, San Diego, and as I’m sure you’re aware Sacramento, and so on.
    One thing I haven’t seen much of when I traveled are big houses on 1/3 acre lots. We like our houses and our land, but it means it takes 4 times the area to build a community. Probably a lot more if you can build sky rises like NY.

    Actually, RailPac is working diligently to increase commuter trains in the greater Los Angels area.  It makes perfect sense to do so!  Traffic there is insane and a lot of people do commute.  What better way to go than to increase rail service including light rail and connections with local buses?  Look at the greater Bay Area.  A lot of people commute using BART rail systems.  Sacramento has a fairly active light rail set up. 
    The Bay area is also expanding rail and light rail including BART.  There are now plans to extend rail service from the Bay Area down to Monterey.  The increase in traffic in these areas is insane, so more rail service only makes good sense.  As gas prices continue to climb, it will make more good sense.
    But these expansions are growing slowly in a time when extracting oil is becoming more costly.  Greater support for expanding rail is needed.
    The same is true for moving freight.  Railroads can more more freight weight per unit of energy than any other form of transportation.   But instead of expanding rail systems, we have giant fleets of trucks that use far more fuel per cargo weight and tear up roads and highway at considerable expense (remembering as well that there is petroleum in asphalt, putting a greater strain on oil reserves). 
    Expanding rail service in America is common sense.  There really is no viable argument against it.

    I don't mean to come across as a know-it-all here and I don't claim to be a rail expert, but I have been a member of both RailPac and Rail Passengers Association (RPA, Formerly NARP) for several years and have followed these for quite a while.
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  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 41,016
    dankind said:
    Thing is, once someone gets into the mindset that their cars are essential, they then use their cars when it’s not essential, and frankly—as the pandemic has taught us, obesity is a health crisis in the US—they’d be better off if they walked or biked to do some of their errands. 

    For instance, the grocery stores, restaurants, places geared toward errand runners in general are no farther away from me where I live now than a lot of them were when I lived in Brooklyn (~10 or 15 minutes). And we walked to those places (and much farther!) when we lived in Brooklyn. I fell into the trap of driving to them for a while if I had an errand to run where I live now because that’s what everyone else does, but I started walking to them about a year ago. (If I’m feeling brave, I’ll ride my bike. But I’ve got kids, man. And I think it’s an underground Masshole motorsport to intimidate, injure, and kill cyclists.)
    I'm sure you walked because of fear of losing a good parking spot?
  • mca47mca47 Posts: 13,327
    I'm just glad I have a company car and don't have to buy gas!
  • dankinddankind Posts: 20,840
    I'm sure you walked because of fear of losing a good parking spot?
    Nope. There's no such thing as losing a good spot when you have to move your car twice a week for street cleaning anyway. It's so fleeting that it doesn't matter.

    We did pay for a spot for a while and pretty much forgot that we owned a car until camping season rolled around.
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  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 41,016
    dankind said:
    Nope. There's no such thing as losing a good spot when you have to move your car twice a week for street cleaning anyway. It's so fleeting that it doesn't matter.

    We did pay for a spot for a while and pretty much forgot that we owned a car until camping season rolled around.
    I am so happy that there is no alternate side parking in Nassau.  What a friggin joke.  

    If people were cleaner you could do away w that crap...
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  • JOEJOEJOEJOEJOEJOE Posts: 10,786
    I paid $6/gallon today in Los Angeles at a gas station near UCLA.

    Luckily my daily commute is only 13.6 miles total.
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 41,145
    27 oil companies made $124B in profits. That’s BILLION with a B. CNN chyron “Surging gas prices create record profits for oil companies.”

    That didn’t take long.


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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,266
    Hi! said:

    ^^^ We're not even close to this.
    JOEJOEJOE said:
    I paid $6/gallon today in Los Angeles at a gas station near UCLA.

    Luckily my daily commute is only 13.6 miles total.
    ^^^ That's where we are.  1/10th of one cent below $6 per gallon.
    And what is it with that 1/10th of one cent nonsense?  Dishonest pricing is what I call it!
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  • Hi!Hi! Posts: 3,095
    brianlux said:
    ^^^ We're not even close to this.
    ^^^ That's where we are.  1/10th of one cent below $6 per gallon.
    And what is it with that 1/10th of one cent nonsense?  Dishonest pricing is what I call it!

    Yeah, these are “high” prices for Michigan, but haven’t come close to some of the prices I’ve seen in California. We are down a few cents today though, around $4.12. The high last week was around $4.25-$4.30 in my area. 

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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,266
    Hi! said:

    Yeah, these are “high” prices for Michigan, but haven’t come close to some of the prices I’ve seen in California. We are down a few cents today though, around $4.12. The high last week was around $4.25-$4.30 in my area. 


    Gas gone down there- wow!  Unusual for right now.
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  • Hi!Hi! Posts: 3,095
    edited March 2022
    brianlux said:

    Gas gone down there- wow!  Unusual for right now.
    Right, at least for a few days. I’m sure it will go back up closer to Wednesday/Thursday next week for the weekly gouge. 

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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,266
    Hi! said:
    Right, at least for a few days. I’m sure it will go back up closer to Wednesday/Thursday next week for the weekly gouge. 

    No doubt, Hi!
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 49,577

    https://www.inquirer.com/business/energy/gas-prices-average-four-dollars-gallon-aaa-gasbuddy-20220811.html

    Gas prices fall just below $4 for the first time in 5 months

    Prices have dropped 15 cents in the past week and 68 cents in the last month, according to AAA.

    A motorist fills up the tank on a sedan in Saratoga Wyo
    A motorist fills up the tank on a sedan in Saratoga, Wyo.David Zalubowski / AP

      Gasoline prices dipped to just under the $4 mark for the first time in more than five months — good news for consumers who are struggling with high prices for many other essentials.

      AAA said the national average for a gallon of regular was $3.99 on Thursday.

      Prices have dropped 15 cents in the past week and 68 cents in the last month, according to the auto club.

      The shopping app GasBuddy reported that the national average was already down to $3.98 on Wednesday.

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      Falling prices for gas, airline tickets and clothes are giving consumers a bit of relief, although inflation is still close to a four-decade high.

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      Oil prices began rising in mid-2020 as economies recovered from the initial shock of the pandemic. They rose again when the U.S. and allies announced sanctions against Russian oil over Russia's war against Ukraine.

      Recently, however, oil prices have dropped on concern about slowing economic growth around the world. U.S. benchmark crude oil has recently dipped close to $90 a barrel from over $120 a barrel in June.

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      High prices also may be causing U.S. motorists to drive less. Gasoline demand in early August was down 3.3% from the same week last year after tracking more closely to 2021 numbers earlier in the summer.

      Prices at the pump are likely to be a major issue heading into the mid-term elections in November.

      Republicans blame President Joe Biden for the high gasoline prices, seizing on his decisions to cancel a permit for a major pipeline and suspend new oil and gas leases on federal lands.

      Biden said over the weekend that a family with two cars is saving $100 a month because prices have dropped from their peak in mid-June.


      “That's breathing room,” he tweeted. “And we're not letting up any time soon.”

      Biden has also sparred with oil companies, accusing them of not producing as much oil and gasoline as they could while posting huge profits. “Exxon made more money than God this year,” he said in June.

      Exxon said it has increased oil production. The CEO of Chevron said Biden was trying to vilify his industry.

      The nationwide average for gas hasn't been under $4 since early March. Prices topped out at $5.02 a gallon on June 14, according to AAA. They declined slowly the rest of June, then began dropping more rapidly.

      Motorists in California and Hawaii are still paying above $5, and other states in the West are paying close to that. The cheapest gas is in Texas and several other states in the South and Midwest.

      A year ago, the nationwide average price was around $3.20 a gallon.


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    • eeriepadaveeeriepadave West Chester, PA Posts: 42,853
      it's about $4.35 where i live now
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    • Get_RightGet_Right Posts: 13,905
      $4.50 in Westchester county NY with the occasional $5.50 seen at the rip off stations (i.e. stations where people do not check the price before filling up). There are more than a few around these parts.
    • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 49,577
      We paid $3.99 near the Outer Banks a couple weeks ago. Hoping we get to that point here in PA by the fall...
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    • PoncierPoncier Posts: 17,699
      I've seen a range between $3.79 and $4.69 in my travels the past couple days (excluding the outlier $5.89 I saw earlier today on Mass Ave in Boston's south end)
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    • F Me In The BrainF Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,719
      $309?  What the fuck?
      Damn, that is great.
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    • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,266
      edited August 2022
      $5.49 at Missouri Flat Road Chevron.  I'd like to pay less I suppose, but would rather pay more for quality gas and improve performance and cut down on repairs, so this is fine with me. 
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    • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 43,564
      $309?  What the fuck?
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