New ANnti-Obama Sticker Pulled....

pandora

usamamasan1 wrote:

Sure are a lot of false acusations and word twisting. No wonder this place becomes such a vaccum of thought. Seems Pandora has to keep explaining how to read.

Why is this thread allowed on here anyway? Positng a racist bumper sticker is OK if you call it racist?

I was wondering about this too .... on both counts

pandora

g under p wrote:

pandora wrote:

g under p wrote:

Pandora, since you have posted my name I have to ask you do you believe President Obama was born in the USA? It's either yes or no....

peace

I know better than to use names ... I was not thinking and also sorry I misspelled

As I said I have no idea, no opinion
this based in the following...

my heart would love to believe he is just who he says cause the alternative is
very upsetting to me ... the implications of what that truth would mean
not something I want to visualize.

I would put it in the category of President Kennedy's assassination ...
do I really want to know ... no probably not.

Why I can sit in the hot tub for hours on end counting the chemtrails
thinking it makes for a lovely sunset.

Thank you for your response....we all believe what we want to believe.

I can just picture myself driving and looking for this kind of hideous sticker since not many have more stickers than I. Interested to know just what kind of person is comfortable enough to drive around their car with something like this on it. WOW. In my darkest of days under Bush II I never would lower myself to something like that...disdain YES, dislike yes...hate NO and it turns out his presidency led to this country voting in someone named Barack Obama born here or NOT.

Peace

Peace

+ 1

ComeToTX

pandora wrote:

g under p wrote:

Pandora, since you have posted my name I have to ask you do you believe President Obama was born in the USA? It's either yes or no....

peace

I know better than to use names ... I was not thinking and also sorry I misspelled

As I said I have no idea, no opinion
this based in the following...

my heart would love to believe he is just who he says cause the alternative is
very upsetting to me ... the implications of what that truth would mean
not something I want to visualize.

I would put it in the category of President Kennedy's assassination ...
do I really want to know ... no probably not.

Why I can sit in the hot tub for hours on end counting the chemtrails
thinking it makes for a lovely sunset.

You say you have "no idea, no opinion" but you are implying there is some validity in the birther argument. Why? Have you ever questioned the validity of a presidents birth certificate before? If not then why Obama?

catefrances

ComeToTX wrote:

pandora wrote:

g under p wrote:

Pandora, since you have posted my name I have to ask you do you believe President Obama was born in the USA? It's either yes or no....

peace

I know better than to use names ... I was not thinking and also sorry I misspelled

As I said I have no idea, no opinion
this based in the following...

my heart would love to believe he is just who he says cause the alternative is
very upsetting to me ... the implications of what that truth would mean
not something I want to visualize.

I would put it in the category of President Kennedy's assassination ...
do I really want to know ... no probably not.

Why I can sit in the hot tub for hours on end counting the chemtrails
thinking it makes for a lovely sunset.

You say you have "no idea, no opinion" but you are implying there is some validity in the birther argument. Why? Have you ever questioned the validity of a presidents birth certificate before? If not then why Obama?

choosing to live in ignorance or denial is not really any way to live. but considering the fact that once you do announce to all here that yes you believe president obama wasnt born in the USA(if that is in fact a belief you hold) youll be jumped on from a great height, i understand your vagueness.

personally and understandably i couldnt give a shit where obama was born.

g under p

pandora wrote:

g under p wrote:

Pandora, since you have posted my name I have to ask you do you believe President Obama was born in the USA? It's either yes or no....

peace

I know better than to use names ... I was not thinking and also sorry I misspelled

As I said I have no idea, no opinion
this based in the following...

my heart would love to believe he is just who he says cause the alternative is
very upsetting to me ... the implications of what that truth would mean
not something I want to visualize.

I would put it in the category of President Kennedy's assassination ...
do I really want to know ... no probably not.

Why I can sit in the hot tub for hours on end counting the chemtrails
thinking it makes for a lovely sunset.

You say you have "no idea, no opinion" but you are implying there is some validity in the birther argument. Why? Have you ever questioned the validity of a presidents birth certificate before? If not then why Obama?[/quote]

catefrances wrote:

ComeToTX wrote:

You say you have "no idea, no opinion" but you are implying there is some validity in the birther argument. Why? Have you ever questioned the validity of a presidents birth certificate before? If not then why Obama?

choosing to live in ignorance or denial is not really any way to live. but considering the fact that once you do announce to all here that yes you believe president obama wasnt born in the USA(if that is in fact a belief you hold) youll be jumped on from a great height, i understand your vagueness.

personally and understandably i couldnt give a shit where obama was born.

I agree too, if he was not our government WILL NEVER TELL. If this country can mostly get back to working I don't think many others will give a shit either.

Peace

catefrances

g under p wrote:

I agree too, if he was not our government WILL NEVER TELL. If this country can mostly get back to working I don't think many others will give a shit either.

Peace

i just dont see the big wow. a country of immigrants has a problem with their president NOT being born on american soil??? .... starts with a H people. not to mention quite the least of the USs problems/issues imo.

tybird

catefrances wrote:

g under p wrote:

I agree too, if he was not our government WILL NEVER TELL. If this country can mostly get back to working I don't think many others will give a shit either.

Peace

i just dont see the big wow. a country of immigrants has a problem with their president NOT being born on american soil??? .... starts with a H people. not to mention quite the least of the USs problems/issues imo.

By throwing the word "soil" into your statement, you opened a huge can of worms...ha ha ha

catefrances

tybird wrote:

catefrances wrote:

g under p wrote:

I agree too, if he was not our government WILL NEVER TELL. If this country can mostly get back to working I don't think many others will give a shit either.

Peace

i just dont see the big wow. a country of immigrants has a problem with their president NOT being born on american soil??? .... starts with a H people. not to mention quite the least of the USs problems/issues imo.

By throwing the word "soil" into your statement, you opened a huge can of worms...ha ha ha

how so? i did so in order to include those americans born on US military bases et al.. cause lets face it if he was ever so inclined wed all have wanted charles bukowski to be eligible to rule the free world, no?

tybird

catefrances wrote:

tybird wrote:

By throwing the word "soil" into your statement, you opened a huge can of worms...ha ha ha

how so? i did so in order to include those americans born on US military bases et al.. cause lets face it if he was ever so inclined wed all have wanted charles bukowski to be eligible to rule the free world, no?

One can still be born a citizen if not born on US soil was my point....and you are correct about the military base thingie.

catefrances

tybird wrote:

catefrances wrote:

tybird wrote:

By throwing the word "soil" into your statement, you opened a huge can of worms...ha ha ha

how so? i did so in order to include those americans born on US military bases et al.. cause lets face it if he was ever so inclined wed all have wanted charles bukowski to be eligible to rule the free world, no?

One can still be born a citizen if not born on US soil was my point....and you are correct about the military base thingie.

aaah yeah yeah yeah i know that.. but as we all know the only citizens fit to be president are those citizens born on american soil. you know that means nicole kidman can be president... you people want that??

prism

catefrances wrote:

tybird wrote:

catefrances wrote:

how so? i did so in order to include those americans born on US military bases et al.. cause lets face it if he was ever so inclined wed all have wanted charles bukowski to be eligible to rule the free world, no?

One can still be born a citizen if not born on US soil was my point....and you are correct about the military base thingie.

aaah yeah yeah yeah i know that.. but as we all know the only citizens fit to be president are those citizens born on american soil. you know that means nicole kidman can be president... you people want that??

not just that but mel gibson is eligible to be her running mate. holy crap....say it ain't so....ohhhh nooooo!!!!!!!!! :wtf:

catefrances

prism wrote:

not just that but mel gibson is eligible to be her running mate. holy crap....say it ain't so....ohhhh nooooo!!!!!!!!! :wtf:

oh awesome!!!! least he wouldnt be boring.

prism

catefrances wrote:

prism wrote:

not just that but mel gibson is eligible to be her running mate. holy crap....say it ain't so....ohhhh nooooo!!!!!!!!! :wtf:

oh awesome!!!! least he wouldnt be boring.

well guess he can't be too much worse than some of the misogynist politicans we've already got in the us

brianlux

catefrances wrote:

prism wrote:

not just that but mel gibson is eligible to be her running mate. holy crap....say it ain't so....ohhhh nooooo!!!!!!!!! :wtf:

oh awesome!!!! least he wouldnt be boring.

AH HA!! You two have just provided evidence that my Queen/King idea holds water! Let me state it once more here:

My theory is that one person should not have as much power as a president, a prime minister, a dictator, etc. is perceived to have or really does have. Governing should be done through committees, legislature, etc. BUT, of course we want somebody to represent us- thus, a queen and a king- two people who look good, speak well, and represent the citizenry of the country they represent. So for Australia, Kidman and Gibson for Queen and King? Let the people vote for their royalty. For the U.S.... any thoughts.

And no, I'm quite serious about this idea. At least it would be more honest than letting people believe ONE person really has all that power (except for a dictator and even then, dictators answer to someone.)

catefrances

brianlux wrote:

catefrances wrote:

prism wrote:

not just that but mel gibson is eligible to be her running mate. holy crap....say it ain't so....ohhhh nooooo!!!!!!!!! :wtf:

oh awesome!!!! least he wouldnt be boring.

AH HA!! You two have just provided evidence that my Queen/King idea holds water! Let me state it once more here:

My theory is that one person should not have as much power as a president, a prime minister, a dictator, etc. is perceived to have or really does have. Governing should be done through committees, legislature, etc. BUT, of course we want somebody to represent us- thus, a queen and a king- two people who look good, speak well, and represent the citizenry of the country they represent. So for Australia, Kidman and Gibson for Queen and King? Let the people vote for their royalty. For the U.S.... any thoughts.

And no, I'm quite serious about this idea. At least it would be more honest than letting people believe ONE person really has all that power (except for a dictator and even then, dictators answer to someone.)

monarchy doesnt work that way...monarchy is not 'democratic'. it is based on heredity... privileged rights for numbskulls... oh how i wish our head of state wasnt the queen of fucking england.

Johnny Abruzzo

pandora wrote:

I know you didn't say it and I got your joke at other people's expense

What? Your posts are very strange. You've been provided with all the information you need to make a determination on the "birther" issue, and you simply refuse to acknowledge the truth. Maybe you don't want to know since then you'll know some of your neighbors in Georgia are wrong in all the things they say all the time. I don't know what the deal is.

I didn't joke at anyone's expense, or at all. The facts are clear. He was born in the USA. And yes, it does matter. You have to be a natural-born American citizen to be president.

I'm done with this shit. Obviously no amount of facts will ever convince those who want to believe falsehoods.

Jeanwah

Johnny Abruzzo wrote:

The facts are clear. He was born in the USA. And yes, it does matter. You have to be a natural-born American citizen to be president.

Deal with it folks. He was born here and he's been president the last 4 years. Creating argument NOW is quite RIDICULOUS.

This argument loves to be regurgitated and why, well, I don't really want to know or care (I know being hung up on ideas certainly prevent some from moving on). People like to waste time arguing things that are totally redundant and a waste of time.

USARAY

Johnny Abruzzo wrote:

pandora wrote:

I know you didn't say it and I got your joke at other people's expense

What? Your posts are very strange. You've been provided with all the information you need to make a determination on the "birther" issue, and you simply refuse to acknowledge the truth. Maybe you don't want to know since then you'll know some of your neighbors in Georgia are wrong in all the things they say all the time. I don't know what the deal is.

I didn't joke at anyone's expense, or at all. The facts are clear. He was born in the USA. And yes, it does matter. You have to be a natural-born American citizen to be president.

I'm done with this shit. Obviously no amount of facts will ever convince those who want to believe falsehoods.

In a controversy the instant we feel anger we have already ceased striving for the truth,
and have begun striving for ourselves.
Buddha