New ANnti-Obama Sticker Pulled....

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  • g under pg under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,200
    pandora wrote:
    "looking at you" and not for you huge ridiculing difference

    :wtf: because one doesn't like Obama = a racist

    it is blatant red/blue racism ... something many here are guilty of

    funniest part is I'm behind Obama ... most likely gonna give him 4 more to do his thing
    but this red and blue is hogwash and really makes for small unbending minds
    and so much not getting anything done for the people... wait we are the people :?

    Don't do what you hate others doing ... like being a racist ... all you blues ;)

    By no means racist just if you happen to want to put on a sticker that we speak on your vehicle. Remember I did not vote for the President the first time around...

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  • ComeToTXComeToTX Austin Posts: 7,875
    Not ALL birthers are racist. I admit that. I stand by my claim that most of the people who refuse to believe or say they don't believe he was born here or refuse to believe he is not Muslim are racist. They are using these as excuses for their hatred that has little to do with anything he's done politically. That's as clear as I can say it.
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  • pandorapandora Posts: 21,855
    g under p wrote:
    pandora wrote:
    "looking at you" and not for you huge ridiculing difference

    :wtf: because one doesn't like Obama = a racist

    it is blatant red/blue racism ... something many here are guilty of

    funniest part is I'm behind Obama ... most likely gonna give him 4 more to do his thing
    but this red and blue is hogwash and really makes for small unbending minds
    and so much not getting anything done for the people... wait we are the people :?

    Don't do what you hate others doing ... like being a racist ... all you blues ;)

    By no means racist just if you happen to want to put on a sticker that we speak on your vehicle. Remember I did not vote for the President the first time around...

    Peace
    Actually Earl I wasn't directing my full post at you and I apologize if that came to you like that.
    It is really for those who can not see their own form of racism that towards the other party.
    It is blinding for them to some degree.

    Of course putting the sticker on your car pretty much advertises you are racist,
    no one here has said the sticker is not racist... again.

    But being a birther or a red does not make one racist toward our President.
  • pandorapandora Posts: 21,855
    ComeToTX wrote:
    Not ALL birthers are racist. I admit that. I stand by my claim that most of the people who refuse to believe or say they don't believe he was born here or refuse to believe he is not Muslim are racist. They are using these as excuses for their hatred that has little to do with anything he's done politically. That's as clear as I can say it.
    And in my opinion you are wrong about that ... MOST is absolutely incorrect and off base.
    Again far more likely the birther movement is based in red and blue than the color of one's skin.

    Those types of racists are in the minority but you know,
    I'm starting to believe the red and blue racism is just as destructive to our country
    and in the majority ... yikes!
  • g under pg under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,200
    pandora wrote:
    g under p wrote:
    pandora wrote:
    "looking at you" and not for you huge ridiculing difference

    :wtf: because one doesn't like Obama = a racist

    I'm on my phone....since you happen to use my name it is spelt Earle. Thank you for the clarification....back to work.

    Peace

    it is blatant red/blue racism ... something many here are guilty of

    funniest part is I'm behind Obama ... most likely gonna give him 4 more to do his thing
    but this red and blue is hogwash and really makes for small unbending minds
    and so much not getting anything done for the people... wait we are the people :?

    Don't do what you hate others doing ... like being a racist ... all you blues ;)

    By no means racist just if you happen to want to put on a sticker that we speak on your vehicle. Remember I did not vote for the President the first time around...

    Peace
    Actually Earl I wasn't directing my full post at you and I apologize if that came to you like that.
    It is really for those who can not see their own form of racism that towards the other party.
    It is blinding for them to some degree.

    Of course putting the sticker on your car pretty much advertises you are racist,
    no one here has said the sticker is not racist... again.

    But being a birther or a red does not make one racist toward our President.
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  • ComeToTXComeToTX Austin Posts: 7,875
    pandora wrote:
    ComeToTX wrote:
    Not ALL birthers are racist. I admit that. I stand by my claim that most of the people who refuse to believe or say they don't believe he was born here or refuse to believe he is not Muslim are racist. They are using these as excuses for their hatred that has little to do with anything he's done politically. That's as clear as I can say it.
    And in my opinion you are wrong about that ... MOST is absolutely incorrect and off base.
    Again far more likely the birther movement is based in red and blue than the color of one's skin.

    Those types of racists are in the minority but you know,
    I'm starting to believe the red and blue racism is just as destructive to our country
    and in the majority ... yikes!


    I'll agree with that. The refusal to work with the other party is truly fucking this country. Btw, I'm neither red or blue fwiw.
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  • pandorapandora Posts: 21,855
    ComeToTX wrote:
    pandora wrote:
    ComeToTX wrote:
    Not ALL birthers are racist. I admit that. I stand by my claim that most of the people who refuse to believe or say they don't believe he was born here or refuse to believe he is not Muslim are racist. They are using these as excuses for their hatred that has little to do with anything he's done politically. That's as clear as I can say it.
    And in my opinion you are wrong about that ... MOST is absolutely incorrect and off base.
    Again far more likely the birther movement is based in red and blue than the color of one's skin.

    Those types of racists are in the minority but you know,
    I'm starting to believe the red and blue racism is just as destructive to our country
    and in the majority ... yikes!


    You're assuming I'm a liberal. I voted for Obama but in 2000 I voted for W. In 2004 nobody was worth voting for so I didn't. I may not vote this year either. The fact is that none of the candidates represent me so I don't love any particular color, red or blue.
    ah ... another purple as myself

    then perhaps you can see my point to some degree
  • g under pg under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,200
    pandora wrote:
    g under p wrote:
    pandora wrote:
    "looking at you" and not for you huge ridiculing difference

    :wtf: because one doesn't like Obama = a racist


    it is blatant red/blue racism ... something many here are guilty of

    funniest part is I'm behind Obama ... most likely gonna give him 4 more to do his thing
    but this red and blue is hogwash and really makes for small unbending minds
    and so much not getting anything done for the people... wait we are the people :?

    Don't do what you hate others doing ... like being a racist ... all you blues ;)

    By no means racist just if you happen to want to put on a sticker that we speak on your vehicle. Remember I did not vote for the President the first time around...

    Peace
    Actually Earl I wasn't directing my full post at you and I apologize if that came to you like that.
    It is really for those who can not see their own form of racism that towards the other party.
    It is blinding for them to some degree.

    Of course putting the sticker on your car pretty much advertises you are racist,
    no one here has said the sticker is not racist... again.

    But being a birther or a red does not make one racist toward our President.



    I'm on my phone again and since you used my name it is spelt Earle. Thanks for your clarification. Back to work again.

    peace
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  • prismprism Posts: 2,440
    pandora wrote:
    ComeToTX wrote:
    Not ALL birthers are racist. I admit that. I stand by my claim that most of the people who refuse to believe or say they don't believe he was born here or refuse to believe he is not Muslim are racist. They are using these as excuses for their hatred that has little to do with anything he's done politically. That's as clear as I can say it.
    And in my opinion you are wrong about that ... MOST is absolutely incorrect and off base.
    Again far more likely the birther movement is based in red and blue than the color of one's skin.

    Those types of racists are in the minority but you know,
    I'm starting to believe the red and blue racism is just as destructive to our country
    and in the majority ... yikes!

    it's okay to disagree with those whose you don't agree with politically. but when you equate ppl with different political ideologies as racist towards those they diasagree with ...it doesn't come off as being clever but rather self-rightous and doing just what you say others shouldn't...casting aspersions.

    when you call ppl of differing polictical views racist it's disingenous and detracts from the seriously imporatant subject of racism and the truly harmful effects it's had and continues to have on minorities in this country
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  • ComeToTXComeToTX Austin Posts: 7,875
    prism wrote:
    pandora wrote:
    ComeToTX wrote:
    Not ALL birthers are racist. I admit that. I stand by my claim that most of the people who refuse to believe or say they don't believe he was born here or refuse to believe he is not Muslim are racist. They are using these as excuses for their hatred that has little to do with anything he's done politically. That's as clear as I can say it.
    And in my opinion you are wrong about that ... MOST is absolutely incorrect and off base.
    Again far more likely the birther movement is based in red and blue than the color of one's skin.

    Those types of racists are in the minority but you know,
    I'm starting to believe the red and blue racism is just as destructive to our country
    and in the majority ... yikes!

    it's okay to disagree with those whose you don't agree with politically. but when you equate ppl with different political ideologies as racist towards those they diasagree with ...it doesn't come off as being clever but rather self-rightous and doing just what you say others shouldn't...casting aspersions.

    when you call ppl of differing polictical views racist it's disingenous and detracts from the seriously imporatant subject of racism and the truly harmful effects it's had and continues to have on minorities in this country

    Arguing for 4 years over whether our president was born in Kenya or a Muslim also detracts from seriously important problems in this country.
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    ComeToTX wrote:
    Arguing for 4 years over whether our president was born in Kenya or a Muslim also detracts from seriously important problems in this country.
    :clap:

    and let's not forget about the unprecedented obstructionism, but thats a topic for another thread...
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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,495
    I agree with whoever posted that if these racists want to identify themselves to us, why should we stop them?

    What a ridiculously terrible bumper sticker.

    Reminds me of the bumper stickers about the "tea party reveled" showing a swastika being revealed.

    Let the idiots identify themselves.
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  • prismprism Posts: 2,440
    ComeToTX wrote:
    prism wrote:
    pandora wrote:
    And in my opinion you are wrong about that ... MOST is absolutely incorrect and off base.
    Again far more likely the birther movement is based in red and blue than the color of one's skin.

    Those types of racists are in the minority but you know,
    I'm starting to believe the red and blue racism is just as destructive to our country
    and in the majority ... yikes!

    it's okay to disagree with those whose you don't agree with politically. but when you equate ppl with different political ideologies as racist towards those they diasagree with ...it doesn't come off as being clever but rather self-rightous and doing just what you say others shouldn't...casting aspersions.

    when you call ppl of differing polictical views racist it's disingenous and detracts from the seriously imporatant subject of racism and the truly harmful effects it's had and continues to have on minorities in this country




    Arguing for 4 years over whether our president was born in Kenya or a Muslim also detracts from seriously important problems in this country.

    and i certainly agree with that...still doesn't make those that see it as nonsense racist. nor would i use the word racist to describe most that believe the president was born in kenya or is a muslim..

    ignorant or foolish perhaps but then i'd get accused of being a racist for disagreeing and stating that opinion by someone's definition...see what i mean? the word racist isn't appropriate. it's way over-the-top when disagreeing about political views... there's no point of creating even more distractions while real issues are being overlooked
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  • pandorapandora Posts: 21,855
    It is a form of prejudice in my opinon... it is red and blue racism, its based in the same
    jump to conclusions

    FACT EXAMPLE ...like a page or so back...
    when some thought someone didn't think the sticker was racist ...
    it's like a blindness ... couldn't read the post I guess because that was never said.

    It goes way past discussing different beliefs to disliking those of a different color/ color

    too bad ... how can we expect our representatives to ever be better

    I expect better.
  • pandorapandora Posts: 21,855
    ComeToTX wrote:

    Arguing for 4 years over whether our president was born in Kenya or a Muslim also detracts from seriously important problems in this country.
    You know what ...
    it is an important purple problem if he is not natural born citizen
    and is the President of the United States of America.

    I would feel this way whatever party he was in.

    It would be a huge sign of trickery and dishonesty on whatever level brought him to be in office.
    It would be bogus!
  • Johnny AbruzzoJohnny Abruzzo Philly Posts: 11,769
    Sticker is patently offensive but is protected by the First Amendment, just like Rush's ridiculous tirades.


    As for birthers. Well, maybe they're not racist, but certainly out of touch with reality. Here we go, again...

    http://factcheck.org/2008/08/born-in-the-usa/


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  • prismprism Posts: 2,440
    pandora wrote:
    It is a form of prejudice in my opinon... it is red and blue racism, its based in the same
    jump to conclusions

    FACT EXAMPLE ...like a page or so back...
    when some thought someone didn't think the sticker was racist ...
    it's like a blindness ... couldn't read the post I guess because that was never said.

    It goes way past discussing different beliefs to disliking those of a different color/ color

    too bad ... how can we expect our representatives to ever be better

    I expect better.


    you have some distorted self-rightousness if you think ppl having differing polictical ideologies is equal to racism....

    it's likely insulting to ppl that have actually suffered from hateful racism and predjudice based on their race, ethnicity, sexual orienation etc.

    don't know about you but i've never had to fear for my safety for voicing an opinion or voting democrat or republican....also guessing you've never been pulled over and harassed for being purple either





    btw.... Obama was born in Hawaii. get over it and such stupid distractions already...
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  • WobbieWobbie Posts: 30,436
    whether they'll admit it or not.....I'm convinced a lot of anti-Obama sentiment has race at it's roots.
    If I had known then what I know now...

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  • ComeToTXComeToTX Austin Posts: 7,875
    I'm saying that most of the birthers don't actually believe he's not American. They only use that as an excuse for their hatred of him.
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  • ComeToTXComeToTX Austin Posts: 7,875
    prism wrote:
    pandora wrote:
    It is a form of prejudice in my opinon... it is red and blue racism, its based in the same
    jump to conclusions

    FACT EXAMPLE ...like a page or so back...
    when some thought someone didn't think the sticker was racist ...
    it's like a blindness ... couldn't read the post I guess because that was never said.

    It goes way past discussing different beliefs to disliking those of a different color/ color

    too bad ... how can we expect our representatives to ever be better

    I expect better.


    you have some distorted self-rightousness if you think ppl having differing polictical ideologies is equal to racism....

    it's likely insulting to ppl that have actually suffered from hateful racism and predjudice based on their race, ethnicity, sexual orienation etc.

    don't know about you but i've never had to fear for my safety for voicing an opinion or voting democrat or republican....also guessing you've never been pulled over and harassed for being purple either





    btw.... Obama was born in Hawaii. get over it and such stupid distractions already...


    I love this paragraph:

    "Of course, it’s distantly possible that Obama’s grandparents may have planted the announcement just in case their grandson needed to prove his U.S. citizenship in order to run for president someday. We suggest that those who choose to go down that path should first equip themselves with a high-quality tinfoil hat. The evidence is clear: Barack Obama was born in the U.S.A."
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  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    In addition to JohnnyAbruzzo's post to the Birthers ...

    http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/bi ... ficate.asp

    this also includes the recent "findings" from sheriff Arpaio ...

    honestly, this goes back to my original post in this thread ... if people want to show they believe in this hogwash ... who are we to stop them from showing their ignorance!? ...
  • pandorapandora Posts: 21,855
    edited March 2012
    prism wrote:
    pandora wrote:
    It is a form of prejudice in my opinon... it is red and blue racism, its based in the same
    jump to conclusions

    FACT EXAMPLE ...like a page or so back...
    when some thought someone didn't think the sticker was racist ...
    it's like a blindness ... couldn't read the post I guess because that was never said.

    It goes way past discussing different beliefs to disliking those of a different color/ color

    too bad ... how can we expect our representatives to ever be better

    I expect better.


    you have some distorted self-rightousness if you think ppl having differing polictical ideologies is equal to racism....

    it's likely insulting to ppl that have actually suffered from hateful racism and predjudice based on their race, ethnicity, sexual orienation etc.

    don't know about you but i've never had to fear for my safety for voicing an opinion or voting democrat or republican....also guessing you've never been pulled over and harassed for being purple either





    btw.... Obama was born in Hawaii. get over it and such stupid distractions already...
    so now you think I am a birther ... man o man :?

    I did not bring up birthers I only relpied to the post
    I was saying all birthers are not racists my point to that post.
    Nor disliking our President = racism. Perhaps you could reread cause that is twice
    you have not 'listened' to my posts or twisted them.

    The Blue and Red war that is waging is a form of racism in my opinion
    producing the same effect of being prejudice. Not asking anyone to agree, this how I feel.

    racism definition...
    a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race

    insert one's party of choice and one's color color of choice ;)

    Most political debates here come down to, often locked due to, the lack of respect
    of the other party and their conflicting core beliefs.
    Not many can deny that.
  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,495
    imalive wrote:
    whether they'll admit it or not.....I'm convinced a lot of anti-Obama sentiment has race at it's roots.

    Yeah, what you feel is far more important than any facts.
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  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    pandora wrote:
    so now you think I am a birther ... man o man :?

    yeah ... cuz you wrote this earlier in the thread ...
    pandora wrote:
    I might feel Obama was not born in this country ... does it mean I am racist... NO!
    I don't see his color or anyone's as an issue, I have friends and loves of all colors.

    So you are lumping me with others you call racist and generalizing.
  • pandorapandora Posts: 21,855
    polaris_x wrote:
    pandora wrote:
    so now you think I am a birther ... man o man :?

    yeah ... cuz you wrote this earlier in the thread ...
    pandora wrote:
    I might feel Obama was not born in this country ... does it mean I am racist... NO!
    I don't see his color or anyone's as an issue, I have friends and loves of all colors.

    So you are lumping me with others you call racist and generalizing.

    might would not be there if I did!

    I feel and will defend those who are birthers.... this what I do
    the right to one's basic belief and opinions

    point ... I'm not judging others who believe he is not a natural born citizen and assuming
    they are racists ... that really got me going! ...
    defending the right to the basic freedom of belief without harassment and labeling.

    Look at the assumptions made at my posts ...
  • ComeToTXComeToTX Austin Posts: 7,875
    polaris_x wrote:
    pandora wrote:
    so now you think I am a birther ... man o man :?

    yeah ... cuz you wrote this earlier in the thread ...
    pandora wrote:
    I might feel Obama was not born in this country ... does it mean I am racist... NO!
    I don't see his color or anyone's as an issue, I have friends and loves of all colors.

    So you are lumping me with others you call racist and generalizing.

    Pandora,
    You sounded pretty skeptical on the first post of this page too.
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  • ComeToTXComeToTX Austin Posts: 7,875
    pandora wrote:
    polaris_x wrote:
    pandora wrote:
    so now you think I am a birther ... man o man :?

    yeah ... cuz you wrote this earlier in the thread ...
    pandora wrote:
    I might feel Obama was not born in this country ... does it mean I am racist... NO!
    I don't see his color or anyone's as an issue, I have friends and loves of all colors.

    So you are lumping me with others you call racist and generalizing.

    might would not be there if I did!

    I feel and will defend those who are birthers.... this what I do
    the right to one's basic belief and opinions

    point ... I'm not judging others who believe he is not a natural born citizen and assuming
    they are racists ... that really got me going! ...
    defending the right to the basic freedom of belief without harassment and labeling.

    Look at the assumptions made at my posts ...

    So you'll defend someone's right to believe anything? No matter how outlandish or offensive it might be?
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  • pandorapandora Posts: 21,855
    ComeToTX wrote:
    polaris_x wrote:
    pandora wrote:
    so now you think I am a birther ... man o man :?

    yeah ... cuz you wrote this earlier in the thread ...
    pandora wrote:
    I might feel Obama was not born in this country ... does it mean I am racist... NO!
    I don't see his color or anyone's as an issue, I have friends and loves of all colors.

    So you are lumping me with others you call racist and generalizing.

    Pandora,
    You sounded pretty skeptical on the first post of this page too.
    Do you mean the sticker?
    yes I said it was offensive it is distributed by the same manufacturer as
    KKK stickers ... and it got a lot of attention
  • ComeToTXComeToTX Austin Posts: 7,875
    pandora wrote:
    ComeToTX wrote:

    Arguing for 4 years over whether our president was born in Kenya or a Muslim also detracts from seriously important problems in this country.
    You know what ...
    it is an important purple problem if he is not natural born citizen
    and is the President of the United States of America.

    I would feel this way whatever party he was in.

    It would be a huge sign of trickery and dishonesty on whatever level brought him to be in office.
    It would be bogus!

    No, on this page.
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  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    pandora wrote:
    might would not be there if I did!

    I feel and will defend those who are birthers.... this what I do
    the right to one's basic belief and opinions

    point ... I'm not judging others who believe he is not a natural born citizen and assuming
    they are racists ... that really got me going! ...
    defending the right to the basic freedom of belief without harassment and labeling.

    Look at the assumptions made at my posts ...

    uhhh ... read what you wrote ... you said
    pandora wrote:
    So you are lumping me with others you call racist and generalizing

    this means that you consider yourself a birther ... plain and simple ... if you want to say that you are not - then say so and we will move on ... but to deny that you linked yourself with them is patently false ... this whole "i'm protecting one's right to their belief" is disingenuous to say the least ... at no point in this thread do you accept that obama is born in the US ...
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