One side hears testimony that completely confirms and corroborates Zimmerman, and the other hears testimony that confirms there was a fight, but no "head pounding" and was "back and forth."
Sheesh...some newsmen with agendas I guess...
MSNBC is just as bad as Fox News.
I just watch the trial and ignore how the news interprets it.
That was my point.
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One side hears testimony that completely confirms and corroborates Zimmerman, and the other hears testimony that confirms there was a fight, but no "head pounding" and was "back and forth."
Sheesh...some newsmen with agendas I guess...
MSNBC is just as bad as Fox News.
I just watch the trial and ignore how the news interprets it.
That was my point.
Oh I know, I was just reiterating how both channels suck ass.
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You can spend your time alone, redigesting past regrets, oh
or you can come to terms and realize
you're the only one who can't forgive yourself, oh
makes much more sense to live in the present tense - Present Tense
Zimmerman is going to walk. Every prosecution witness except the girlfriend has been gold for the defense.
it is still early. the prosection is going to hammer zimmerman on his inconsistencies. i would not be that shocked if zimmerman ends up taking the stand before this is all over.
why did the screaming stop? if i shot someone i would be screaming for someone to call 911. that did not happen on the tapes, so that tells me that it might have been trayvon screaming prior to being shot.
i have not seen a lot of the pics, what was the blood splatter like on zimmerman? if trayvon was on top of him and zimmerman shot upwards at him, would gravity not pull the blood down on top of zimmerman? i dunno, i am just thinking out loud.
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
Zimmerman is going to walk. Every prosecution witness except the girlfriend has been gold for the defense.
it is still early. the prosection is going to hammer zimmerman on his inconsistencies. i would not be that shocked if zimmerman ends up taking the stand before this is all over.
why did the screaming stop? if i shot someone i would be screaming for someone to call 911. that did not happen on the tapes, so that tells me that it might have been trayvon screaming prior to being shot.
i have not seen a lot of the pics, what was the blood splatter like on zimmerman? if trayvon was on top of him and zimmerman shot upwards at him, would gravity not pull the blood down on top of zimmerman? i dunno, i am just thinking out loud.
From what I've heard, read, and seen so far, the inconsistencies are very weak.I know its early and I don't know all the facts. The lead investigator said he felt Zimmerman was truthful. I'm not sure what kind of case the prosecution has left.
I guarantee there are still many things about the fight we don't know.
For all we know, they could have switched positions various times, Martin on top beating Zimmerman and vice versa. It's just a matter of who started it.
I am watching the trial now, and basically they are saying the wounds he received do not match how Zimmerman described it. He said his head was being beat into the ground (which is why he shot Martin), but the wound on the back of his head does not show such force was used on his head (and not enough blood). How Zimmerman described it is that his head was "about to explode." I bet it did hurt, but not as bad as he described it, and not much damage to have to pull a gun on someone.
What I said here was revealed today. Apparently there was a point when Zimmerman was on top and Martin on bottom. In the end Martin was on top, shot, then fell off.
In the end I still think it will be like the Casey Anthony trial. He'll walk because not enough evidence to convict him.
So doesn't the fact that Zimmerman was on top first show he might have instigated it? I can see the scenario of maybe Martin attacking him, Zimmerman shoved him down, but then the roles reversed.
I just don't get why Zimmerman didn't say he was neighborhood watch when he encountered Martin. That fact shows he possibly was out to try and be a cop, to which he fucked up and a kid is now dead. If Martin fought first it was probably because he fought in self-defense.
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You can spend your time alone, redigesting past regrets, oh
or you can come to terms and realize
you're the only one who can't forgive yourself, oh
makes much more sense to live in the present tense - Present Tense
the argument can be made that the guy "defending himself" was using his fists to fight off the guy with the gun.
why is it always assumed that the guy defending himself is doing so with a gun and not the other way around?
how many times has the initial aggressor been the one with a gun? having a gun many times makes a guy feel and act like billy badass when in actuality they are hiding behind that gun.
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
even if zimmerman walks he will always be guilty according the AMT......nobody here saw what happened or even has all the evidence but still have the notion that zimmerman is guilty,interesting.
...if zimmerman is found innocent. LA riots will seem small.
I disagree. Why would they riot? Because the prosecution presented a poor case? Or that the facts of the case prooves that Zimmerman acted in self defense?
I agree tm is not on trial ...but i also believe the citizens see this as a trial of tm.
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trayvon is dead. he can not be on trial. the trial is about whether or not zimmerman committed murder 2. zimmerman is on trial, not martin. i think the average american who has any sort of clue about our judicial process understands this.
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
I simply do not think the supporters of tm will use logic and accept the jury decision.
Who exactly are you talking about?
Because, although I'm not a TM supporter, I dont think he deserved to die at the hand of Zimmerman. And since I think Zimmerman is a piece of shit, I suppose I could be classified a tm supporter.
But I plan on using all of my logic in accepting whatever decision the jury hands down. I have zero plans for rioting, looting, or public nudity.
The average american does not loot and burn businesses when a nba championship is won.
why are you comparing this to an nba championship?
why did you not say nhl or nfl?
I think you could point to any sport. The Vancouver Canucks fans who rioted in June of 2011 after losing game 7 of the Stanley Cup Finals did not represent the average Canadian.
...if zimmerman is found innocent. LA riots will seem small.
I disagree. Why would they riot? Because the prosecution presented a poor case? Or that the facts of the case prooves that Zimmerman acted in self defense?
because a young black man is dead at the hands of a "creepy ass cracka"
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That was my point.
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Oh I know, I was just reiterating how both channels suck ass.
You can spend your time alone, redigesting past regrets, oh
or you can come to terms and realize
you're the only one who can't forgive yourself, oh
makes much more sense to live in the present tense - Present Tense
why did the screaming stop? if i shot someone i would be screaming for someone to call 911. that did not happen on the tapes, so that tells me that it might have been trayvon screaming prior to being shot.
i have not seen a lot of the pics, what was the blood splatter like on zimmerman? if trayvon was on top of him and zimmerman shot upwards at him, would gravity not pull the blood down on top of zimmerman? i dunno, i am just thinking out loud.
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
What I said here was revealed today. Apparently there was a point when Zimmerman was on top and Martin on bottom. In the end Martin was on top, shot, then fell off.
In the end I still think it will be like the Casey Anthony trial. He'll walk because not enough evidence to convict him.
So doesn't the fact that Zimmerman was on top first show he might have instigated it? I can see the scenario of maybe Martin attacking him, Zimmerman shoved him down, but then the roles reversed.
I just don't get why Zimmerman didn't say he was neighborhood watch when he encountered Martin. That fact shows he possibly was out to try and be a cop, to which he fucked up and a kid is now dead. If Martin fought first it was probably because he fought in self-defense.
You can spend your time alone, redigesting past regrets, oh
or you can come to terms and realize
you're the only one who can't forgive yourself, oh
makes much more sense to live in the present tense - Present Tense
why is it always assumed that the guy defending himself is doing so with a gun and not the other way around?
how many times has the initial aggressor been the one with a gun? having a gun many times makes a guy feel and act like billy badass when in actuality they are hiding behind that gun.
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
Godfather.
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
...if tm is found innoncent- i think they will be dancing in the streets celebrating the likes of winning the nba championship for the first time.
I will be right or wrong.
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
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"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
trayvon is dead. he can not be on trial. the trial is about whether or not zimmerman committed murder 2. zimmerman is on trial, not martin. i think the average american who has any sort of clue about our judicial process understands this.
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
Who exactly are you talking about?
Because, although I'm not a TM supporter, I dont think he deserved to die at the hand of Zimmerman. And since I think Zimmerman is a piece of shit, I suppose I could be classified a tm supporter.
But I plan on using all of my logic in accepting whatever decision the jury hands down. I have zero plans for rioting, looting, or public nudity.
The average american does not loot and burn businesses when a nba championship is won.
why did you not say nhl or nfl?
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
I do not care which sport you like. Substitute any sport you like.
I think you could point to any sport. The Vancouver Canucks fans who rioted in June of 2011 after losing game 7 of the Stanley Cup Finals did not represent the average Canadian.
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
he's right, the chances of a riot started by the black communitys is high if zimmerman walks,history proves that.
Godfather.
I dont think this has anywhere near the potential as the L.A. riots. I hope i'm not wrong.
because a young black man is dead at the hands of a "creepy ass cracka"
Godfather.
Disappointing
Well, I was insinuating this in response to the jury decision. I may still riot, loot, or streak for no reason whatsoever. :P