ummm...guys white hispanic is on the U.S. Census (http://www.census.gov/prod/2001pubs/c2kbr01-1.pdf). do any of you do your own research from primary sources or do you let the media interpret things for you and take that as truth?
Correct. But don't pretend to think they didn't have certain motives for stressing things. When is the last time you saw an article state someone as "White Hispanic" as opposed to "Hispanic"?
And while Trayvon's race was immediately disclosed, just how long was it before anyone in the media reported the race of Zimmerman? That's right, it wasn't until his dad spoke.
It's very clear what the media was trying to do here. It makes it a bigger story. And now it doesn't even matter what the truth actually is anymore.
The lead homicide investigator in the shooting of unarmed teenager Trayvon Martin recommended that neighborhood watch captain George Zimmerman be charged with manslaughter the night of the shooting, multiple sources told ABC News.
But Sanford, Fla., Investigator Chris Serino was instructed to not press charges against Zimmerman because the state attorney's office headed by Norman Wolfinger determined there wasn't enough evidence to lead to a conviction, the sources told ABC News.
Police brought Zimmerman into the station for questioning for a few hours on the night of the shooting, said Zimmerman's attorney, despite his request for medical attention first. Ultimately they had to accept Zimmerman's claim of self defense. He was never charged with a crime.
Serino filed an affidavit on Feb. 26, the night that Martin was shot and killed by Zimmerman, that stated he was unconvinced Zimmerman's version of events.
Zimmerman, 28, claimed he shot Martin, 17, in self defense.
One complicating factor in the investigation was that the first detective to interview Zimmerman about the shooting was a narcotics officer rather than a homicide detective.
The State Attorney's office said only "no comment" when asked about the affidavit today.
The revelation is the latest salvo in a war of leaks meant to bolster each side amid rising tension over the shooting.
Martin's family attorney confirmed today that the teenager was suspended from his Miami school three times over the past year.
Martin's parents, Sybrina Fulton and Tracy Martin, will appear before a House panel today and rallies continue around the country demanding that Zimmermanbe arrested.
About 200 to 250 protesters gathered in front of the Justice Department today to demand the Justice Department to charge Zimmerman with a federal hate crime.
Martin may have cut a more imposing figure than previously known. Recent pictures on the web and social media show him with gold dental grill and making obscene gestures to the camera.
In addition, Martin's Miami school records show that he has been suspended three times.
Family attorney Benjamin Crump confirmed to ABC News that Martin had been slapped with a 10 day school suspension after a bag with suspected marijuana was found in his backpack.
Last year Martin was suspended for spraying graffiti on school grounds. The Miami Herald reported that the school guard who stopped him searched his backpack and found 12 items of women's jewelry and a flathead screw driver that the guard believed to be a "burglary implement." But Martin was never charged or specifically disciplined for the incident.
Crump alleged that the Sanford police had leaked damaging information about Martin into order to muddy the case, calling it a "conspiracy." Crump called the school disciplinary problems "irrelevant" to the case that "an unarmed 17 year kid was killed."
The case has triggered national interest with pro-Martin rallies in cities from coast to coast. Martin's mother has moved to trademark two popular rallying cries, "I am Trayvon" and "Justice for Trayvon." The family said it does not want want other people printing memorabilia.
"Sybrina Fulton has no desire to profit from her son's death, but wants to protect her son's name legacy," said family representative Ryan Julison.
Martin was shot as he made his way to his father's fiance's house while returning from a convenience store where he bought a pack of Skittles and iced tea. He was followed by Zimmerman who found him suspicious.
At some point, Zimmerman ignored the suggestion from a 911 dispatcher that he stop following Martin, left his truck and went to look for Martin.
At the same time, Martin was on the phone with his girlfriend and complained that someone was following him.
What happened then is not clear. The girlfriend has said that she heard Martin ask someone, "Why are you following me?" before the sounds of a scuffle and the phone was disconnected.
Zimmerman is described as 5-foot-9 and well over 200 pounds while Martin was 6-foot-3 and 150 pounds.
Leaks from the police report detail Zimmerman telling police he was heading back to his truck when Martin knocked him down with a punch to his nose, jumped on him, repeatedly banged his head on the ground, then tried to grab Zimmerman's gun.
In a struggle for Zimmerman's gun, the watchman shot the teenager, Zimmerman told police.
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ummm...guys white hispanic is on the U.S. Census (http://www.census.gov/prod/2001pubs/c2kbr01-1.pdf). do any of you do your own research from primary sources or do you let the media interpret things for you and take that as truth?
The point is how many times does the media use that term (if ever) but NYT does in this case - why?
ummm...guys white hispanic is on the U.S. Census (http://www.census.gov/prod/2001pubs/c2kbr01-1.pdf). do any of you do your own research from primary sources or do you let the media interpret things for you and take that as truth?
Correct. But don't pretend to think they didn't have certain motives for stressing things. When is the last time you saw an article state someone as "White Hispanic" as opposed to "Hispanic"?
And while Trayvon's race was immediately disclosed, just how long was it before anyone in the media reported the race of Zimmerman? That's right, it wasn't until his dad spoke.
It's very clear what the media was trying to do here. It makes it a bigger story. And now it doesn't even matter what the truth actually is anymore.
someone asked if the NYT made up a racial/ethnic category, and I just pointed out that wasn't true. can't the same argument be made that if you think the NYT's is using white to create a bigger racial issue, making the false statement that the NYT made up a racial term to make race an issue be accused of doing the same thing for a different political agenda?
Tuesday, March 27, 2012
George Zimmerman, Son of a Retired Judge, Has 3 Closed Arrests
Did George Zimmerman have help from his father, a retired judge, in clearing his name in three separate arrests?
That’s the question that’s being asked now that more information on Trayvon Martin’s 28-year-old killer is being revealed. Robert Zimmerman, a former Orange County magistrate judge, recently wrote a letter to The Orlando Sentinel defending his son, who’s been dragged through the mud for shooting the unarmed 17-year-old last month. In the letter, the senior Zimmerman asks people not to jump to conclusions and insists that his son didn’t follow the young boy home as he walked through their gated community.
“He would be the last to discriminate for any reason whatsoever. The media portrayal of George as a racist could not be further from the truth. At no time did George follow or confront Mr. Martin. When the true details of the event became public, and I hope that will be soon, everyone should be outraged by the treatment of George Zimmerman in the media,” wrote Robert Zimmerman.
Now more info is being dug up on his “victimized” son through public records and revealing his checkered past.
According to a records search on George, he was previously arrested for domestic violence, resisting an officer without violence and most shockingly, resisting an officer with violence — a felony charge that surely could have landed him in prison.
All three of those arrests, however, were mysteriously closed with no semblance of charges for the Florida resident.
Interesting recent developments... Investigator wanted charges, and the state attorney's office didn't want to charge a guy who happens to be the son of a retired judge (and apparently got off in the past).
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Tuesday, March 27, 2012
George Zimmerman, Son of a Retired Judge, Has 3 Closed Arrests
Did George Zimmerman have help from his father, a retired judge, in clearing his name in three separate arrests?
That’s the question that’s being asked now that more information on Trayvon Martin’s 28-year-old killer is being revealed. Robert Zimmerman, a former Orange County magistrate judge, recently wrote a letter to The Orlando Sentinel defending his son, who’s been dragged through the mud for shooting the unarmed 17-year-old last month. In the letter, the senior Zimmerman asks people not to jump to conclusions and insists that his son didn’t follow the young boy home as he walked through their gated community.
“He would be the last to discriminate for any reason whatsoever. The media portrayal of George as a racist could not be further from the truth. At no time did George follow or confront Mr. Martin. When the true details of the event became public, and I hope that will be soon, everyone should be outraged by the treatment of George Zimmerman in the media,” wrote Robert Zimmerman.
Now more info is being dug up on his “victimized” son through public records and revealing his checkered past.
According to a records search on George, he was previously arrested for domestic violence, resisting an officer without violence and most shockingly, resisting an officer with violence — a felony charge that surely could have landed him in prison.
All three of those arrests, however, were mysteriously closed with no semblance of charges for the Florida resident.
Did Zimmerman shoot Martin? YES....he's guilty of Shooting Martin as i said above. Now is he guilty of a CRIME that's another story and the investigation will come to some conclusion i hope. now do you see what I was saying godfather.
Peace
o.k I see what you're saying but I can't use the word guilty untell there is a court that proves him guilty but you you are right that zimmerman shot him but why ? and and was it a justifiable shoot ?
Godfather.
That is going to be the decider.
I fell the kid was stalked by Zimmerman. Trayvon was minding his own business until he was stalked.
Zimmermans record and his inability to listen to the 911 dispatcher tells me he was looking for trouble, obviously.
In my mind he's guilty of murder. But I know that by law, he will possibly get away with it.
Did the NYT come up with a new one - White Hispanic?
no they didn't. On some forms we must fill out we have a question about whether a person is hispanic or not, and a question about race...unless the NYTs creates the CDC's documentation forms for HIV testing, no they did not come up with it.
I don't know how a person can be white hispanic, but those who do seem to think it is an important distinction. Just another group to divide us into for some reason.
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Tuesday, March 27, 2012
George Zimmerman, Son of a Retired Judge, Has 3 Closed Arrests
Did George Zimmerman have help from his father, a retired judge, in clearing his name in three separate arrests?
That’s the question that’s being asked now that more information on Trayvon Martin’s 28-year-old killer is being revealed. Robert Zimmerman, a former Orange County magistrate judge, recently wrote a letter to The Orlando Sentinel defending his son, who’s been dragged through the mud for shooting the unarmed 17-year-old last month. In the letter, the senior Zimmerman asks people not to jump to conclusions and insists that his son didn’t follow the young boy home as he walked through their gated community.
“He would be the last to discriminate for any reason whatsoever. The media portrayal of George as a racist could not be further from the truth. At no time did George follow or confront Mr. Martin. When the true details of the event became public, and I hope that will be soon, everyone should be outraged by the treatment of George Zimmerman in the media,” wrote Robert Zimmerman.
Now more info is being dug up on his “victimized” son through public records and revealing his checkered past.
According to a records search on George, he was previously arrested for domestic violence, resisting an officer without violence and most shockingly, resisting an officer with violence — a felony charge that surely could have landed him in prison.
All three of those arrests, however, were mysteriously closed with no semblance of charges for the Florida resident.
Wow that was beautiful and I'm not really the biggest of a Bruce fan, very nice.
peace
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Did the NYT come up with a new one - White Hispanic?
no they didn't. On some forms we must fill out we have a question about whether a person is hispanic or not, and a question about race...unless the NYTs creates the CDC's documentation forms for HIV testing, no they did not come up with it.
I don't know how a person can be white hispanic, but those who do seem to think it is an important distinction. Just another group to divide us into for some reason.
President Obama must be referred as White-Black then.
no it's up to Obama how he checks his boxes off on the census...this basically shows how stupid it is to break people into racial categories and that race is entirely a social construct. at the same time people live in racialized ways.
no it's up to Obama how he checks his boxes off on the census...this basically shows how stupid it is to break people into racial categories and that race is entirely a social construct. at the same time people live in racialized ways.
stupid... really ? I too would like to see/live in a world where race is not an issue but I think you should step outside that dream world you have created and take a look around.. people are proud of their race and with that comes seperation of races and it will be a looooong time before people truley understand that we are all the same, you with your "black kid" comments saying "godfather" said is a perfect display of seperation and putting yourself above me and others on the train, look before you leep young man.
Tuesday, March 27, 2012
George Zimmerman, Son of a Retired Judge, Has 3 Closed Arrests
Did George Zimmerman have help from his father, a retired judge, in clearing his name in three separate arrests?
That’s the question that’s being asked now that more information on Trayvon Martin’s 28-year-old killer is being revealed. Robert Zimmerman, a former Orange County magistrate judge, recently wrote a letter to The Orlando Sentinel defending his son, who’s been dragged through the mud for shooting the unarmed 17-year-old last month. In the letter, the senior Zimmerman asks people not to jump to conclusions and insists that his son didn’t follow the young boy home as he walked through their gated community.
“He would be the last to discriminate for any reason whatsoever. The media portrayal of George as a racist could not be further from the truth. At no time did George follow or confront Mr. Martin. When the true details of the event became public, and I hope that will be soon, everyone should be outraged by the treatment of George Zimmerman in the media,” wrote Robert Zimmerman.
Now more info is being dug up on his “victimized” son through public records and revealing his checkered past.
According to a records search on George, he was previously arrested for domestic violence, resisting an officer without violence and most shockingly, resisting an officer with violence — a felony charge that surely could have landed him in prison.
All three of those arrests, however, were mysteriously closed with no semblance of charges for the Florida resident.
did Zimmerman ever identify himself to Martin that he was the neighborhood watch when he confronted him? Does Zimmerman wear a uniform and/or does his car have identification that he's part of the neighborhood watch? Did he approach Martin with an attitude?
If a stranger just comes and rolls up to me and gives me shit, I probably would have given it back.
But if Zimmerman did say he was the neighborhood watch, then what happens afterward is "he said, he said". Again, if Zimmerman came at him with attitude, isn't a 17 year old going to give it back? maybe, maybe not. Only Zimmerman truly knows what happened, because the other person can't talk.
As they say, it's not always what you say, but all about how you say it that makes a difference.
in any event, the police bungled it and Zimmerman should have been charged because he was told to stay in his car and he precipitated the events that happened.
Or, as it seems, the police did it right and the states attorney decided there wasn't enough evidence. But people continue to blame the police and jump to racism.
I think the police bungled it in that they closed the case very quickly without looking at the shooters background and doing a drug/alcohol test on him. They did it for Martin, but not for the guy who killed him?
Do they give those tests to the police after a shooting incident?
Looking at his background, could give an indication if he was a prone to violence and losing his temper. The police told him to say away from Martin, and he took matters into his own hands.They should have charged him and let a jury decide.
And I'm not saying racism is involved- between Zimmerman and Martin- I don't think there was.
Is this more a conceal and carry case more than anything else? Because I believe if Zimmerman didn't have a gun he would probably would have just got the living shit beat out of him and Martin would be alive and maybe charged with battery.
Is this more a conceal and carry case more than anything else? Because I believe if Zimmerman didn't have a gun he would probably would have just got the living shit beat out of him and Martin would be alive and maybe charged with battery.
what makes me skeptical about his "version" of the story is that he outweighed martin by quite a bit and he has a history of violence ... and guys who are wanna-be cops generally aren't gonna get beat up ...
So police leaks are saying the shooter was walking back to his car when he was attacked by Martin and Martin was going for his gun...
All makes better sense now huh train?
Not really just skittles and iced tea if he is beating a man and going for his firearm.
Is this more a conceal and carry case more than anything else? Because I believe if Zimmerman didn't have a gun he would probably would have just got the living shit beat out of him and Martin would be alive and maybe charged with battery.
what makes me skeptical about his "version" of the story is that he outweighed martin by quite a bit and he has a history of violence ... and guys who are wanna-be cops generally aren't gonna get beat up ...
Size doesn't always matter in a fight. Zimmerman was bleeding when the police arrived, so he had obviously taken a few hits. That doesn't automatically mean that he wasn't the aggressor in the fight, but it does show that an advantage in weight doesn't automatically mean you're going to win a fight. His history of violence is against a woman who--I would assume--was smaller than him and shorter than Martin. He may have resisted an officer with violence but that doesn't mean he "won" the fight or even landed any forceful punches. For all we know, Zimmerman's a big sissy who carries a gun because he knows he can't fight and the gun makes him feel safer. The wanna-be cops, wanna-be Marines, etc. I've encountered were always the ones who got the crap kicked out of them. I knew a kid who was like that and tried to brag about how he got beat up in the locker room during gym class as if that proved he was tough and he walked around acting like a big tough guy, but everyone made fun of him because whenever he ran his mouth and got knocked around for it he had no idea how to defend himself.
So police leaks are saying the shooter was walking back to his car when he was attacked by Martin and Martin was going for his gun...
All makes better sense now huh train?
Not really just skittles and iced tea if he is beating a man and going for his firearm.
If a strange guy was following you and you saw he had a gun you wouldn't try to get it? He was fighting for his life. Zimmerman instigated the confrontation by following him. Period. If he listens to the police operator then Trayvon is alive today.
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Is this more a conceal and carry case more than anything else? Because I believe if Zimmerman didn't have a gun he would probably would have just got the living shit beat out of him and Martin would be alive and maybe charged with battery.
what makes me skeptical about his "version" of the story is that he outweighed martin by quite a bit and he has a history of violence ... and guys who are wanna-be cops generally aren't gonna get beat up ...
A 6-1/6-2 17 year old against an overweight short guy? I will take the 6-1 17 year old that is pist off someone is following him and confronts him. I was 17 once and thought I was unstoppable. You put a gun in the mix and that all changes. Wanna be cops usually end up getting their ass kicked. That’s probably why he didn't make the force. Probably uncoordinated fat guy.
6'3" 150 vs. 5'9" 220+? I'm pretty sure even an uncoordinated person with a 70+ lb weight advantage would both be able to withstand fists, and impose will at that point. Unless Trayvon was trained to fight this is literally no contest. Seriously, go try to fight someone with that weight advantage on you. For me I'd have to go find a 260+ lb dude and even if I knew how to throw down I don't see myself winning.
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Correct. But don't pretend to think they didn't have certain motives for stressing things. When is the last time you saw an article state someone as "White Hispanic" as opposed to "Hispanic"?
And while Trayvon's race was immediately disclosed, just how long was it before anyone in the media reported the race of Zimmerman? That's right, it wasn't until his dad spoke.
It's very clear what the media was trying to do here. It makes it a bigger story. And now it doesn't even matter what the truth actually is anymore.
http://news.yahoo.com/trayvon-martin-in ... ories.html
The lead homicide investigator in the shooting of unarmed teenager Trayvon Martin recommended that neighborhood watch captain George Zimmerman be charged with manslaughter the night of the shooting, multiple sources told ABC News.
But Sanford, Fla., Investigator Chris Serino was instructed to not press charges against Zimmerman because the state attorney's office headed by Norman Wolfinger determined there wasn't enough evidence to lead to a conviction, the sources told ABC News.
Police brought Zimmerman into the station for questioning for a few hours on the night of the shooting, said Zimmerman's attorney, despite his request for medical attention first. Ultimately they had to accept Zimmerman's claim of self defense. He was never charged with a crime.
Serino filed an affidavit on Feb. 26, the night that Martin was shot and killed by Zimmerman, that stated he was unconvinced Zimmerman's version of events.
Zimmerman, 28, claimed he shot Martin, 17, in self defense.
One complicating factor in the investigation was that the first detective to interview Zimmerman about the shooting was a narcotics officer rather than a homicide detective.
The State Attorney's office said only "no comment" when asked about the affidavit today.
The revelation is the latest salvo in a war of leaks meant to bolster each side amid rising tension over the shooting.
Martin's family attorney confirmed today that the teenager was suspended from his Miami school three times over the past year.
Martin's parents, Sybrina Fulton and Tracy Martin, will appear before a House panel today and rallies continue around the country demanding that Zimmermanbe arrested.
About 200 to 250 protesters gathered in front of the Justice Department today to demand the Justice Department to charge Zimmerman with a federal hate crime.
Martin may have cut a more imposing figure than previously known. Recent pictures on the web and social media show him with gold dental grill and making obscene gestures to the camera.
In addition, Martin's Miami school records show that he has been suspended three times.
Family attorney Benjamin Crump confirmed to ABC News that Martin had been slapped with a 10 day school suspension after a bag with suspected marijuana was found in his backpack.
Last year Martin was suspended for spraying graffiti on school grounds. The Miami Herald reported that the school guard who stopped him searched his backpack and found 12 items of women's jewelry and a flathead screw driver that the guard believed to be a "burglary implement." But Martin was never charged or specifically disciplined for the incident.
Crump alleged that the Sanford police had leaked damaging information about Martin into order to muddy the case, calling it a "conspiracy." Crump called the school disciplinary problems "irrelevant" to the case that "an unarmed 17 year kid was killed."
The case has triggered national interest with pro-Martin rallies in cities from coast to coast. Martin's mother has moved to trademark two popular rallying cries, "I am Trayvon" and "Justice for Trayvon." The family said it does not want want other people printing memorabilia.
"Sybrina Fulton has no desire to profit from her son's death, but wants to protect her son's name legacy," said family representative Ryan Julison.
Martin was shot as he made his way to his father's fiance's house while returning from a convenience store where he bought a pack of Skittles and iced tea. He was followed by Zimmerman who found him suspicious.
At some point, Zimmerman ignored the suggestion from a 911 dispatcher that he stop following Martin, left his truck and went to look for Martin.
At the same time, Martin was on the phone with his girlfriend and complained that someone was following him.
What happened then is not clear. The girlfriend has said that she heard Martin ask someone, "Why are you following me?" before the sounds of a scuffle and the phone was disconnected.
Zimmerman is described as 5-foot-9 and well over 200 pounds while Martin was 6-foot-3 and 150 pounds.
Leaks from the police report detail Zimmerman telling police he was heading back to his truck when Martin knocked him down with a punch to his nose, jumped on him, repeatedly banged his head on the ground, then tried to grab Zimmerman's gun.
In a struggle for Zimmerman's gun, the watchman shot the teenager, Zimmerman told police.
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
The point is how many times does the media use that term (if ever) but NYT does in this case - why?
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Tuesday, March 27, 2012
George Zimmerman, Son of a Retired Judge, Has 3 Closed Arrests
Did George Zimmerman have help from his father, a retired judge, in clearing his name in three separate arrests?
That’s the question that’s being asked now that more information on Trayvon Martin’s 28-year-old killer is being revealed. Robert Zimmerman, a former Orange County magistrate judge, recently wrote a letter to The Orlando Sentinel defending his son, who’s been dragged through the mud for shooting the unarmed 17-year-old last month. In the letter, the senior Zimmerman asks people not to jump to conclusions and insists that his son didn’t follow the young boy home as he walked through their gated community.
“He would be the last to discriminate for any reason whatsoever. The media portrayal of George as a racist could not be further from the truth. At no time did George follow or confront Mr. Martin. When the true details of the event became public, and I hope that will be soon, everyone should be outraged by the treatment of George Zimmerman in the media,” wrote Robert Zimmerman.
Now more info is being dug up on his “victimized” son through public records and revealing his checkered past.
According to a records search on George, he was previously arrested for domestic violence, resisting an officer without violence and most shockingly, resisting an officer with violence — a felony charge that surely could have landed him in prison.
All three of those arrests, however, were mysteriously closed with no semblance of charges for the Florida resident.
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and trayvon had zero arrests and suspensions for graffiti, tardiness, and a bag of weed remnants....
who is the one with a violent streak again??
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
godfather
That is going to be the decider.
I fell the kid was stalked by Zimmerman. Trayvon was minding his own business until he was stalked.
Zimmermans record and his inability to listen to the 911 dispatcher tells me he was looking for trouble, obviously.
In my mind he's guilty of murder. But I know that by law, he will possibly get away with it.
BTW Bruuuuuuuce getting in on the act in Tampa http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nghqjBwZTiE
no they didn't. On some forms we must fill out we have a question about whether a person is hispanic or not, and a question about race...unless the NYTs creates the CDC's documentation forms for HIV testing, no they did not come up with it.
I don't know how a person can be white hispanic, but those who do seem to think it is an important distinction. Just another group to divide us into for some reason.
It is terrifying when you are too stupid to know who is dumb
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I am seeing that his father was a retired Virginia Supreme Court magistrate judge. Not Orange county.
Wow that was beautiful and I'm not really the biggest of a Bruce fan, very nice.
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And to think I used to respect the guy.
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Godfather....with a capital "G" young man
stupid... really ? I too would like to see/live in a world where race is not an issue but I think you should step outside that dream world you have created and take a look around.. people are proud of their race and with that comes seperation of races and it will be a looooong time before people truley understand that we are all the same, you with your "black kid" comments saying "godfather" said is a perfect display of seperation and putting yourself above me and others on the train, look before you leep young man.
Godfather.
I think the police bungled it in that they closed the case very quickly without looking at the shooters background and doing a drug/alcohol test on him. They did it for Martin, but not for the guy who killed him?
Do they give those tests to the police after a shooting incident?
Looking at his background, could give an indication if he was a prone to violence and losing his temper. The police told him to say away from Martin, and he took matters into his own hands.They should have charged him and let a jury decide.
And I'm not saying racism is involved- between Zimmerman and Martin- I don't think there was.
what makes me skeptical about his "version" of the story is that he outweighed martin by quite a bit and he has a history of violence ... and guys who are wanna-be cops generally aren't gonna get beat up ...
All makes better sense now huh train?
Not really just skittles and iced tea if he is beating a man and going for his firearm.
Size doesn't always matter in a fight. Zimmerman was bleeding when the police arrived, so he had obviously taken a few hits. That doesn't automatically mean that he wasn't the aggressor in the fight, but it does show that an advantage in weight doesn't automatically mean you're going to win a fight. His history of violence is against a woman who--I would assume--was smaller than him and shorter than Martin. He may have resisted an officer with violence but that doesn't mean he "won" the fight or even landed any forceful punches. For all we know, Zimmerman's a big sissy who carries a gun because he knows he can't fight and the gun makes him feel safer. The wanna-be cops, wanna-be Marines, etc. I've encountered were always the ones who got the crap kicked out of them. I knew a kid who was like that and tried to brag about how he got beat up in the locker room during gym class as if that proved he was tough and he walked around acting like a big tough guy, but everyone made fun of him because whenever he ran his mouth and got knocked around for it he had no idea how to defend himself.
If a strange guy was following you and you saw he had a gun you wouldn't try to get it? He was fighting for his life. Zimmerman instigated the confrontation by following him. Period. If he listens to the police operator then Trayvon is alive today.