legalize drugs ?????

pandora

catefrances wrote:

peacefrompaul wrote:

And now you're calling me selfish?

Selfish to me is trying to control peoples lives to fit just the way you want them to be.

selfish to me is not passing that pipe this way...

I thought you quit :? oh .... that was Chadwick right?

catefrances

pandora wrote:

catefrances wrote:

peacefrompaul wrote:

And now you're calling me selfish?

Selfish to me is trying to control peoples lives to fit just the way you want them to be.

selfish to me is not passing that pipe this way...

I thought you quit :? oh .... that was Chadwick right?

maybe.... i dont know what chadwick does.

pandora

I'm out ....
said my peace and then some

legalizing all drugs is ridiculous

decriminalizing pot maybe ok as long as it doesn't forward the movement of
killer drugs becoming legal....

peacefrompaul

pandora wrote:

And now you're calling me selfish?


Selfish to me is trying to control peoples lives to fit just the way you want them to be.

You didn't answer any of my questions...why?
Selfish is not caring about others I know I can't control others

and they can't control themselves
quite obviously... like I said if they could we wouldn't have a thread.

So your pep talk "come on we can do this" is not happening.[/quote]

I've answered your questions many times before

Would I hurt? Maybe, I haven't been in that situation... I would like to think I would try to be the better man and not follow in my dad's footsteps.

I had an RA last year that came from a poor household in Madison, WI... His mom was a crack addict and gave him the bird at a young age, she drove away...

Virg isn't a drug user, in fact he is strictly against them... One more year and he will have a 4 year degree, something no one in his family has ever had before.

peacefrompaul

pandora wrote:

I'm out ....
said my peace and then some

legalizing all drugs is ridiculous

decriminalizing pot maybe ok as long as it doesn't forward the movement of
killer drugs becoming legal....

Peace! It's been a treat, as always.

pandora

catefrances wrote:

pandora wrote:

catefrances wrote:

selfish to me is not passing that pipe this way...

I thought you quit :? oh .... that was Chadwick right?

maybe.... i dont know what chadwick does.

and where would you get any idea of what i do or dont do???

oh sorry i get you guys mixed up some... sometimes when I read
the posts you sound the same or alike... compliment right?
no harm intended just thought I read you said you quit???

and yes I agree nobody likes a bogart

pandora

peacefrompaul wrote:

pandora wrote:

I'm out ....
said my peace and then some

legalizing all drugs is ridiculous

decriminalizing pot maybe ok as long as it doesn't forward the movement of
killer drugs becoming legal....

Peace! It's been a treat, as always.

I know your Mama is proud of you ... keep up the good work

catefrances

pandora wrote:

catefrances wrote:

maybe.... i dont know what chadwick does.

and where would you get any idea of what i do or dont do???

oh sorry i get you guys mixed up some... sometimes when I read
the posts you sound the same or alike... compliment right?
no harm intended just thought I read you said you quit???

and yes I agree nobody likes a bogart

then youre clealry not paying attention cause youre the only one who gets chad and i mixed up... or youre getting some very unreliable intel. either way have your little games...i dont give a shit.

peacefrompaul

pandora wrote:

peacefrompaul wrote:

pandora wrote:

I'm out ....
said my peace and then some

legalizing all drugs is ridiculous

decriminalizing pot maybe ok as long as it doesn't forward the movement of
killer drugs becoming legal....

Peace! It's been a treat, as always.

I know your Mama is proud of you ... keep up the good work

As she should be, I'm not the best student but I work hard...


The Lab Tech I had on Friday said to tell my parents they raised a fine young man. :-D

g under p

peacefrompaul wrote:

pandora wrote:

We are all connected in this life. Your actions a direct effect on others.

The heroin addict broke his mothers heart and ruined his children's lives
destroying what could be a beautiful marriage, a beautiful life.

That crack smoker just broke a very expensive piece of equipment at his job.
Resulting in the loss of work and needing government aid. Wonder if he can afford
that crack now. Maybe not better break in and steal all your hard earned stuff.

We dropped acid in the park somebody died :shock:

notice I didn't say anything about the doober on the porch....

your body is not your own, you have responsibility to society, to those who love you,
to your employer, to God above if you are so inclined.

The heroin addict ruined his own life and his family, he caused no one physical harm (The family made a choice to stick around him for some reason).

The crack smoker should be fired on the spot, you can be fired for being drunk on the job (alcohol is legal).

That acid user made a choice and died, only hurting himself.

As sad as it may seem, people die. If you chose to make bad decisions, sorry, not my problem. I will probably feel sorry for your family though... But, drug incidents would happen whether the drugs are legal or not. Freedom has its consequences!

My body is my own and I could certainly leave society behind anytime I want. I could say adios to my family and quit my job. All the while, I would have to see the positives and negatives of each action.

I will have made my own choice, maybe given some guidance, but made my own choice in the end.

That's life

People have the potential to do the right thing, we can do this folks!

I agree and well put PFP, but do legalize the natural herb it will unplug our future world.

Peace

peacefrompaul

g under p wrote:

I agree and well put PFP, but do legalize the natural herb it will unplug our future world.

Peace

Yes indeed, g under p!

I can't wait to pry open my third eye in peace

Cosmo

After reading through this... I feel like I'm on drugs.
...
I think i need to lay down... you know, sleep it off, man.

hedonist

Cosmo wrote:

After reading through this... I feel like I'm on drugs.
...
I think i need to lay down... you know, sleep it off, man.

No shit, Cosmo.

I had a wisdom tooth pulled today, and me and my swollen right cheek are weighing the benefits of taking a vicodin or smoking a bowl.

Bowl it is.

brianlux

This thread is not only about drugs, it's often much like drugs: sometimes it's fun and sometimes it's a bad trip.

By the way, thank you peacefrompaul for kind empathy. Thankfully I lived through all my past demons and am fortunate to be living a good, fulfilling, productive and sane life.

It's a tough world we live in and many if not most of us have had to go through some tough times, bad breaks or trauma to make it through. Banning this or that really doesn't help anyone and our plethora of legal pharmaceuticals are often the worst choice of all. If this country spent as much time and money helping people as we do fighting a useless war on drugs there would be many more happy and safe people walking around.

pandora

peacefrompaul wrote:

pandora wrote:

I know your Mama is proud of you ... keep up the good work

As she should be, I'm not the best student but I work hard...


The Lab Tech I had on Friday said to tell my parents they raised a fine young man. :-D

Lab Tech is right! :thumbup:

Glad you didn't succumb, at a tender age, to anything extremely dangerous
and life changing.

I hope you are just as proud of the good job Mom and Dad did, so many kids don't have this...
a most valuable, dependable and trusted support system.

mikepegg44

pandora wrote:

pandora wrote:

Nope... It is about the love of all people.

Because war is based in greed and no law ever conquers that

greed is why we have pushers getting 13 year olds addicted to meth
killing young bodies to make a buck

but yet you want laws trying to stop one behavior and not the other...So it is pointless to try to make war illegal because it will always happen due to greed...the same greed that will drive drug production/sales....interesting...do you honestly not see this as a massive contradiction?

I personally will never stop fighting to make sure that no one dies a needless death...that is, unless you live in another country. Then you can go fuck yourself. We are talking about American kids...you know..the important ones...Foreign kids...you should know better than to simply live your life normally...bombs will be dropping so get the fuck out of the way. Massive cartels cutting heads off are coming Mexican border towns...get the fuck out of the way...

Pandora, your selective moral position is perplexing.

Seriously, will you respond to the FACT that the drug war is destroying hundreds of thousands of people world wide, not from using the drugs, but from the production and dominance by cartels...your moral stance weakens every time you ignore it. If you have responded to that, please point me to it, as I must have missed it

pandora

mikepegg44 wrote:

pandora wrote:

pandora wrote:

Nope... It is about the love of all people.

Because war is based in greed and no law ever conquers that

greed is why we have pushers getting 13 year olds addicted to meth
killing young bodies to make a buck

but yet you want laws trying to stop one behavior and not the other...So it is pointless to try to make war illegal because it will always happen due to greed...the same greed that will drive drug production/sales....interesting...do you honestly not see this as a massive contradiction?

I personally will never stop fighting to make sure that no one dies a needless death...that is, unless you live in another country. Then you can go fuck yourself. We are talking about American kids...you know..the important ones...Foreign kids...you should know better than to simply live your life normally...bombs will be dropping so get the fuck out of the way. Massive cartels cutting heads off are coming Mexican border towns...get the fuck out of the way...

Pandora, your selective moral position is perplexing.

Seriously, will you respond to the FACT that the drug war is destroying hundreds of thousands of people world wide, not from using the drugs, but from the production and dominance by cartels...your moral stance weakens every time you ignore it. If you have responded to that, please point me to it, as I must have missed it

I am against hard drugs will never condone them nor the legalization of them.
I am not alone obviously.

I think I have been consistent and given many reasons why I do not support all drugs being legal.

hey what do you think of the new legal baths salts and cannibal tendencies? :shock:

mikepegg44

pandora wrote:

hey what do you think of the new legal baths salts and cannibal tendencies? :shock:

ah...the guy in Miami wasn't on them...it was just assumed he was.
http://articles.nydailynews.com/2012-06 ... reet-drugs

Title of the article Miami cannibal case: NO bath salts or other street drugs found in his system They just found weed.

I don't care if you are against all drugs or not, You haven't wavered in that position. That is consistant. It is the justification you have is wildly inconsistent. I just I would point out that your stance about greed making laws against war impossible being in DIRECT conflict with your stance on drugs considering by your own words it is greed that forces the production and sale...
You have been consistent...consistently talking about kids and the lives drugs destroy without ever once acknowledging the lives the DRUG WAR alone destroys. Not the ones choosing to start using, but the ones that are forced from a young age to stand naked as they cut drugs for cartels. But our suburbs and inner cities are the only populations that need protection. That is fine...selective moral outrage and the subsequent abuse in government to "solve" those problems is the reason our country is so polarized, and I will not hesitate to point it out when I see it.
Personal Liberty has a cost...do you want it or not?

pandora

mikepegg44 wrote:

pandora wrote:

hey what do you think of the new legal baths salts and cannibal tendencies? :shock:

ah...the guy in Miami wasn't on them...it was just assumed he was.
http://articles.nydailynews.com/2012-06 ... reet-drugs

Title of the article Miami cannibal case: NO bath salts or other street drugs found in his system They just found weed.

I don't care if you are against all drugs or not, You haven't wavered in that position. That is consistant. It is the justification you have is wildly inconsistent. I just I would point out that your stance about greed making laws against war impossible being in DIRECT conflict with your stance on drugs considering by your own words it is greed that forces the production and sale...
You have been consistent...consistently talking about kids and the lives drugs destroy without ever once acknowledging the lives the DRUG WAR alone destroys. Not the ones choosing to start using, but the ones that are forced from a young age to stand naked as they cut drugs for cartels. But our suburbs and inner cities are the only populations that need protection. That is fine...selective moral outrage and the subsequent abuse in government to "solve" those problems is the reason our country is so polarized, and I will not hesitate to point it out when I see it.
Personal Liberty has a cost...do you want it or not?

Was that a defense for bath salts? I was talking about our incident, just one of many,
occurring recently and the deaths of teens too.

http://www.q13fox.com/news/kcpq-police- ... 9321.story

Are you glad this drug is legal? ... Do you think we should protect people
from those who would cannibalize them while high? Do you think this drug should be illegal?
It is now currently sold in gas stations.

http://www.nmslabs.com/services-forensi ... ts-testing do we think perhaps
it was not detected even after testing done some time later.

That has been the case with deadly DUI accidents here. No punishment for these deaths
as it is not detected when collected. The murderers going free.

Greed is the root to all war and that would include drugs, is the point I made.

My stance is that I can not condone legalizing all drugs not to save victims of a war,
any war. Horrendous happenings occur daily here, everywhere that will not change
the fact that I believe legalizing all drugs to be a most ridiculous solution.
I can have no part of that, as I said I am no where near alone either.

JonnyPistachio

mikepegg44 wrote:

pandora wrote:

hey what do you think of the new legal baths salts and cannibal tendencies? :shock:

ah...the guy in Miami wasn't on them...it was just assumed he was.
http://articles.nydailynews.com/2012-06 ... reet-drugs

Title of the article Miami cannibal case: NO bath salts or other street drugs found in his system They just found weed.

I don't care if you are against all drugs or not, You haven't wavered in that position. That is consistant. It is the justification you have is wildly inconsistent. I just I would point out that your stance about greed making laws against war impossible being in DIRECT conflict with your stance on drugs considering by your own words it is greed that forces the production and sale...
You have been consistent...consistently talking about kids and the lives drugs destroy without ever once acknowledging the lives the DRUG WAR alone destroys. Not the ones choosing to start using, but the ones that are forced from a young age to stand naked as they cut drugs for cartels. But our suburbs and inner cities are the only populations that need protection. That is fine...selective moral outrage and the subsequent abuse in government to "solve" those problems is the reason our country is so polarized, and I will not hesitate to point it out when I see it.
Personal Liberty has a cost...do you want it or not?

I see what you're saying Mike. Its a great point. Unheard of amounts of people are being massacred by violence surrounding the drug war. Beheadings! the drug war violence is insane. I think i'd rather have people dying from their own choice (O.D.), than the drug war killings as a result of violence and greed.