State of the Union Address (1/20/15)

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  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524
    Damn this game I created for myself, so I may have missed this - but in talking about hiring vets (which I'm for in theory), did Obama mention providing quality treatment for all of the physical, psychological and emotional issues they deserve after having served?

  • hedonist wrote: »
    I'm with ya, gimme. Even the cut-shots to audience members' reactions - theater indeed.

    Also, I worry for everyone's backs come tomorrow with all those standing O's.

    it is disgusting. nobody is buying this fake "respect" and "agreement" from the gallery. theater.

    they won't have to worry about their backs. their healthcare is 100% free. paid by you and me. plus, it is not like they actually go to work in the house. they probably have the day off tomorrow.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524
    hedonist wrote: »
    I'm with ya, gimme. Even the cut-shots to audience members' reactions - theater indeed.

    Also, I worry for everyone's backs come tomorrow with all those standing O's.

    it is disgusting. nobody is buying this fake "respect" and "agreement" from the gallery. theater.

    they won't have to worry about their backs. their healthcare is 100% free. paid by you and me. plus, it is not like they actually go to work in the house. they probably have the day off tomorrow.
    Hey, our slimeball former mayor has a pension set for life now.

    For PUBLIC SERVICE.

    And, yup! Paid for by us.

    We need a head-blowing-up emoticon, Kat!

  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524
    Well fuck...I've not been watching raptly, but this seems like a quick-ass laundry list covering topics most people would support.

    Equal pay!
    Affordable education!
    Get paid for the overtime you work!
    More jobs!
    Peace and free speech!
    Reduce pollution!

    I feel like I'm being played. Would love to see a sincere, rhetoric-free speech from our president. He's can't be incapable of it.

  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,042
    As you two pointed out, gimme and hedo, a typical state of the union address dee dee dum dee dum..BUT at least the President came out strong on recognizing climate change/global warming- more so than I can ever recall. Only problem is, that part of the speech is 10 or 20 years late. Still, I hope it does some good.
    “The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
    Variously credited to Mark Twain or Edward Abbey.













  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524
    And maybe 10 or 20 seconds' worth of words too. I don't discount the subject but it struck me as a tick checked off - one of many lip-services, it felt.

    Funny, B...I watched more than intended, then ditched it for Seinfeld.

    And now, listening to Playing for Change - their take on Gimme Shelter.

    Ironic, no? But sweetness to my ears and the fat wondering mass between them.
  • Isn't the state of the union just a federal pep rally? It's all lip service and nothing more.
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  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,042
    hedonist wrote: »
    And maybe 10 or 20 seconds' worth of words too. I don't discount the subject but it struck me as a tick checked off - one of many lip-services, it felt.

    Funny, B...I watched more than intended, then ditched it for Seinfeld.

    And now, listening to Playing for Change - their take on Gimme Shelter.

    Ironic, no? But sweetness to my ears and the fat wondering mass between them.

    Well, at least the president wasn't wearing ladies glasses! Haha!

    “The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
    Variously credited to Mark Twain or Edward Abbey.













  • rr165892rr165892 Posts: 5,697
    I decided watching Hot Tub Time Machine was the better path travelled last night.I can catch the high/low lightsof speech this am.Plus the movie prob had less fiction then the speech.And why were we wearing soooooo much color in 1986?I graduated that year and don't remember being that fluorescent.It seems like that was also the last couple years of not being tethered to technology.Good times indeed.
  • Last-12-ExitLast-12-Exit Posts: 8,661
    So I said I wouldn't watch it. And I didn't last night. I pulled it up on YouTube this morning and I'm regretting it. It's a mandatory speech that he has to make by law. Such a load of shit he is vomitting. The ovations make it unwatchable.
  • I didn't watch it, but I did see the part about this: As Obama began to explain that he has "no more campaigns left to run," some Republicans in the audience began to applaud.

    The president paused and replied by saying, "I know because I won both of them."

    Booya!
  • rr165892rr165892 Posts: 5,697
    And the division continues.
  • I didn't watch it, but I did see the part about this: As Obama began to explain that he has "no more campaigns left to run," some Republicans in the audience began to applaud.

    The president paused and replied by saying, "I know because I won both of them."

    Booya!

    Elected officials in charge of this country acting like fucking children....that was really sad to see. I did enjoy Obama's zing at them.
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,567
    Bohner just comes off as such a dickhead his a drunk at best ....
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • I didn't watch it, but I did see the part about this: As Obama began to explain that he has "no more campaigns left to run," some Republicans in the audience began to applaud.

    The president paused and replied by saying, "I know because I won both of them."

    Booya!

    Elected officials in charge of this country acting like fucking children....that was really sad to see. I did enjoy Obama's zing at them.

    sounds like he baited them into that zinger.

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  • BRAIN0FJAYBRAIN0FJAY Posts: 989
    edited January 2015
    I didn't watch it, but I did see the part about this: As Obama began to explain that he has "no more campaigns left to run," some Republicans in the audience began to applaud.

    The president paused and replied by saying, "I know because I won both of them."

    Booya!

    Elected officials in charge of this country acting like fucking children....that was really sad to see. I did enjoy Obama's zing at them.

    While the applause was probably, to some degree, in jest...particularly after having sat for 45 minutes or so being told repeatedly that it is "my way or the highway". I'm sure that the Republican applause had nothing to do with the fact that Obama is a narcissistic socialistic asshole who, over the course of six years, continues to talks out both sides of his mouth, has shown that he does not have a leadership bone in his body, and has done his best to "change" this country for the worst with terrible ideas/policies/actions.

    Let the tongue-lashing begin.

    ...signing off...
    ...So much talk it makes no sense at all...
  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,840
    I don't understand how anyone can disagree with anything that was said. It is all common sense.
  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,840
    BRAIN0FJAY wrote: »
    I didn't watch it, but I did see the part about this: As Obama began to explain that he has "no more campaigns left to run," some Republicans in the audience began to applaud.

    The president paused and replied by saying, "I know because I won both of them."

    Booya!

    Elected officials in charge of this country acting like fucking children....that was really sad to see. I did enjoy Obama's zing at them.

    While the applause was probably, to some degree, in jest...particularly after having sat for 45 minutes or so being told repeatedly that it is "my way or the highway". I'm sure that the Republican applause had nothing to do with the fact that Obama is a narcissistic socialistic asshole who, over the course of six years, continues to talks out both sides of his mouth, has shown that he does not have a leadership bone in his body, and has done his best to "change" this country for the worst with terrible ideas/policies/actions.

    Let the tongue-lashing begin.

    ...signing off...

    HAHAHAHHA
  • Indifference71Indifference71 Posts: 14,844
    edited January 2015
    BRAIN0FJAY wrote: »
    I didn't watch it, but I did see the part about this: As Obama began to explain that he has "no more campaigns left to run," some Republicans in the audience began to applaud.

    The president paused and replied by saying, "I know because I won both of them."

    Booya!

    Elected officials in charge of this country acting like fucking children....that was really sad to see. I did enjoy Obama's zing at them.

    While the applause was probably, to some degree, in jest...particularly after having sat for 45 minutes or so being told repeatedly that it is "my way or the highway". I'm sure that the Republican applause had nothing to do with the fact that Obama is a narcissistic socialistic asshole who, over the course of six years, continues to talks out both sides of his mouth, has shown that he does not have a leadership bone in his body, and has done his best to "change" this country for the worst with terrible ideas/policies/actions.

    Let the tongue-lashing begin.

    ...signing off...

    And there's exhibit A on why it is impossible to talk anything about politics around here. I'm no Obama supporter. I was just simply pointing out how sad it is that some of the GOP started cheering like they're at a fucking pep rally when Obama said that he didn't have any campaigns left to run. Even at the state of the union address, they can't show any respect for the fucking President ...very sad.
    Post edited by Indifference71 on
  • [quote="BRAIN0FJAY;5735195And there's exhibit A on why it is impossible to talk anything about politics around here. I'm no Obama supporter. I was just simply pointing out how sad it is that some of the GOP started cheering like they're at a fucking pep rally when Obama said that he didn't have any campaigns left to run. Even at the state of the union address, they can't show any respect for the fucking President ...very sad.


    I agree...they should have and I wish they would have sat on their hands when Obama brought up his lame duck status. It's sad that the SOTU has gone from a rather "serious" speech to a borderline circus.
    ...So much talk it makes no sense at all...
  • rr165892rr165892 Posts: 5,697
    BRAIN0FJAY wrote: »
    I didn't watch it, but I did see the part about this: As Obama began to explain that he has "no more campaigns left to run," some Republicans in the audience began to applaud.

    The president paused and replied by saying, "I know because I won both of them."

    Booya!

    Elected officials in charge of this country acting like fucking children....that was really sad to see. I did enjoy Obama's zing at them.

    While the applause was probably, to some degree, in jest...particularly after having sat for 45 minutes or so being told repeatedly that it is "my way or the highway". I'm sure that the Republican applause had nothing to do with the fact that Obama is a narcissistic socialistic asshole who, over the course of six years, continues to talks out both sides of his mouth, has shown that he does not have a leadership bone in his body, and has done his best to "change" this country for the worst with terrible ideas/policies/actions.

    Let the tongue-lashing begin.

    ...signing off...

    And there's exhibit A on why it is impossible to talk anything about politics around here. I'm no Obama supporter. I was just simply pointing out how sad it is that some of the GOP started cheering like they're at a fucking pep rally when Obama said that he didn't have any campaigns left to run. Even at the state of the union address, they can't show any respect for the fucking President ...very sad.

    I think the lack of Respect is running both ways here.They just keep fucking with one another.
  • jeffbrjeffbr Posts: 7,177
    Cliffy6745 wrote: »
    I don't understand how anyone can disagree with anything that was said. It is all common sense.

    Sure at a high level in a SOTU speech most of the things that presidents say, regardless of party, make sense to me, although I don't want to hear war mongering, and don't want to hear about multi-billion dollar tax increases. Who is opposed to better access to healthcare, better living wages, access to higher education, lessening reliance on foreign oil, etc...? Unfortunately there are plans and details behind these statements, and that is where we get tripped up. Some plans simply won't work, some plans are laid out knowing that they're not going to pass but will be the starting point for discussions and compromise, some plans are meant to help but in the end will not due to unintended consequences. So you're right that we should all want most of those things, but I'm guessing there will be vastly different opinions about how we actually achieve them. Starting with Obama's $320 billion tax increase in his coming budget proposal to help fund some of his plans.

    On the face of it, as a parent of a college age kid, I love the idea of access to affordable higher education. But to pay for it Obama wants to take a program used almost exclusively by the middle class for education savings, and take away the tax benefits, effectively taking dollars from the middle class and sending it to community college administrators. WTF??

    On the face of it, we want to close the loopholes in the tax code that help the rich avoid paying their fair share of taxes. But one of the things that Obama wants to change is the basis on which capital gains are taxed and the tax rate itself, and many of those changes will hurt the middle class far more than the rich (especially as it relates to any sort of property inheritance).

    So you'll have to pardon me if I find the whole SOTU performance (all of them, not just this one) to be farcical and not really as common sense as it might appear.
    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
  • rr165892rr165892 Posts: 5,697
    jeffbr wrote: »
    Cliffy6745 wrote: »
    I don't understand how anyone can disagree with anything that was said. It is all common sense.

    Sure at a high level in a SOTU speech most of the things that presidents say, regardless of party, make sense to me, although I don't want to hear war mongering, and don't want to hear about multi-billion dollar tax increases. Who is opposed to better access to healthcare, better living wages, access to higher education, lessening reliance on foreign oil, etc...? Unfortunately there are plans and details behind these statements, and that is where we get tripped up. Some plans simply won't work, some plans are laid out knowing that they're not going to pass but will be the starting point for discussions and compromise, some plans are meant to help but in the end will not due to unintended consequences. So you're right that we should all want most of those things, but I'm guessing there will be vastly different opinions about how we actually achieve them. Starting with Obama's $320 billion tax increase in his coming budget proposal to help fund some of his plans.

    On the face of it, as a parent of a college age kid, I love the idea of access to affordable higher education. But to pay for it Obama wants to take a program used almost exclusively by the middle class for education savings, and take away the tax benefits, effectively taking dollars from the middle class and sending it to community college administrators. WTF??

    On the face of it, we want to close the loopholes in the tax code that help the rich avoid paying their fair share of taxes. But one of the things that Obama wants to change is the basis on which capital gains are taxed and the tax rate itself, and many of those changes will hurt the middle class far more than the rich (especially as it relates to any sort of property inheritance).

    So you'll have to pardon me if I find the whole SOTU performance (all of them, not just this one) to be farcical and not really as common sense as it might appear.

    Bingo
  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,138
    Odds are good that Biden just cut the cheese ...

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