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  • MayDay10MayDay10 Posts: 11,738
    Watson is a scumbag and apparently suffers from a bit of an obsession/mental disorder.  He will mess up again unless he seeks some serious help.  

    As far as being a great QB?  He put up some good numbers with Houston.  You wonder how motivated he will be after all this and all those guaranteed bucks.  Also a year (maybe two or more) of being out of the league will take its toll.  


    I typically pull for Cleveland sports teams and always had a soft spot for the Browns, but man does that organization deserve to eat this.  What a terrible decision.  Their fans should be showing up with pitchforks and torches.  
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,836
    MayDay10 said:
    Watson is a scumbag and apparently suffers from a bit of an obsession/mental disorder.  He will mess up again unless he seeks some serious help.  

    As far as being a great QB?  He put up some good numbers with Houston.  You wonder how motivated he will be after all this and all those guaranteed bucks.  Also a year (maybe two or more) of being out of the league will take its toll.  


    I typically pull for Cleveland sports teams and always had a soft spot for the Browns, but man does that organization deserve to eat this.  What a terrible decision.  Their fans should be showing up with pitchforks and torches.  
    And if there's a parade down Euclid, is it still a terrible decision?  I don't think the tiki torchers will think so.  
  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,491
    Question?

    Has there ever been a questionable character signing that has paid off?  Michael Vic, Nope.  Richard Incognito, nuh uh.  Terrell Owens(later Owens) Close but no cigar.
    Ndomukang Su maybe?
  • MayDay10MayDay10 Posts: 11,738
    There wont be a parade, lol.  
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,836
    Question?

    Has there ever been a questionable character signing that has paid off?  Michael Vic, Nope.  Richard Incognito, nuh uh.  Terrell Owens(later Owens) Close but no cigar.
    Ndomukang Su maybe?
    Ray Lewis signed three contracts after the murder charge. Did he do okay?
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,836
    MayDay10 said:
    There wont be a parade, lol.  
    You avoided the question.  

    Obviously if they don't win a super bowl, this was a mistake.  That's self evident.  You can lose with any number of quarterbacks.  But if they win it, was it the right call?  
  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,919
    This is hilarious. It's almost like a bizarro political thread from the A Moving Train board. 

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  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 11,603
    mrussel1 said:
    mruss.....you wouldn't feel differently about this if the guy wasn't just traded to your team, would you?
    Absolutely.  I'd hate the fucker.  

    What's your point?
    You think he's a top 5 QB and doesn't deserve to lose his livelihood, but you would hate the fucker on your team. 


    Got it. 
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 49,054
    Question?

    Has there ever been a questionable character signing that has paid off?  Michael Vic, Nope.  Richard Incognito, nuh uh.  Terrell Owens(later Owens) Close but no cigar.
    Ndomukang Su maybe?
    Vick worked out okay for the Eagles for a couple years. The team was just in decline overall at that point. Plus I think that was a completely different situation than Watson as Vick paid his debt to society and served hard time at one of the toughest prison's in the country. Watson's skating through this thing with no repercussion. 
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,836
    mrussel1 said:
    mruss.....you wouldn't feel differently about this if the guy wasn't just traded to your team, would you?
    Absolutely.  I'd hate the fucker.  

    What's your point?
    You think he's a top 5 QB and doesn't deserve to lose his livelihood, but you would hate the fucker on your team. 


    Got it. 
    No, I would hate the fucker if he wasn't on my team.  

    It's simple sports math. 
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,836
    Question?

    Has there ever been a questionable character signing that has paid off?  Michael Vic, Nope.  Richard Incognito, nuh uh.  Terrell Owens(later Owens) Close but no cigar.
    Ndomukang Su maybe?
    Vick worked out okay for the Eagles for a couple years. The team was just in decline overall at that point. Plus I think that was a completely different situation than Watson as Vick paid his debt to society and served hard time at one of the toughest prison's in the country. Watson's skating through this thing with no repercussion. 
    He also didn't commit a crime.  So that's kind of weird that you give Vick a pass because he was tried, convicted and served, but because Watson didn't commit a crime, he is guiltier.  
  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 11,603
    edited June 2022
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mruss.....you wouldn't feel differently about this if the guy wasn't just traded to your team, would you?
    Absolutely.  I'd hate the fucker.  

    What's your point?
    You think he's a top 5 QB and doesn't deserve to lose his livelihood, but you would hate the fucker on your team. 


    Got it. 
    No, I would hate the fucker if he wasn't on my team.  

    It's simple sports math. 
    Nevermind... I'm dumb, didn't realize you were a Cleveland guy & didn't see the double negative. 

    Good luck with him. 
    Post edited by Merkin Baller on
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 49,054
    mrussel1 said:
    Question?

    Has there ever been a questionable character signing that has paid off?  Michael Vic, Nope.  Richard Incognito, nuh uh.  Terrell Owens(later Owens) Close but no cigar.
    Ndomukang Su maybe?
    Vick worked out okay for the Eagles for a couple years. The team was just in decline overall at that point. Plus I think that was a completely different situation than Watson as Vick paid his debt to society and served hard time at one of the toughest prison's in the country. Watson's skating through this thing with no repercussion. 
    He also didn't commit a crime.  So that's kind of weird that you give Vick a pass because he was tried, convicted and served, but because Watson didn't commit a crime, he is guiltier.  
    Is it? Is it, really? lol
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  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,491
    mrussel1 said:
    Question?

    Has there ever been a questionable character signing that has paid off?  Michael Vic, Nope.  Richard Incognito, nuh uh.  Terrell Owens(later Owens) Close but no cigar.
    Ndomukang Su maybe?
    Ray Lewis signed three contracts after the murder charge. Did he do okay?
    He didn't change teams...
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,836
    mrussel1 said:
    Question?

    Has there ever been a questionable character signing that has paid off?  Michael Vic, Nope.  Richard Incognito, nuh uh.  Terrell Owens(later Owens) Close but no cigar.
    Ndomukang Su maybe?
    Ray Lewis signed three contracts after the murder charge. Did he do okay?
    He didn't change teams...
    Well you didn't make that a condition.  Regardless, a murder charge is questionable character.  
  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,491
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Question?

    Has there ever been a questionable character signing that has paid off?  Michael Vic, Nope.  Richard Incognito, nuh uh.  Terrell Owens(later Owens) Close but no cigar.
    Ndomukang Su maybe?
    Ray Lewis signed three contracts after the murder charge. Did he do okay?
    He didn't change teams...
    Well you didn't make that a condition.  Regardless, a murder charge is questionable character.  
    I thought that was evident when no one dismissed Rothlesberger, but yes, that is my only condition that would need be said.
  • ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,055
    mrussel1 said:
    CROJAM95 said:
    Regardless if legal/ illegal…. This isn’t face of your franchise behavior…. Not even for the Cleveland shit stains
    And the saddest part is they brought him in! AND gave him the biggest contract ever! I mean, say what you want about the Steelers and Roethlisberger, but at least by time he was accused of similar crimes, he had already won two Super Bowls with the Steelers and thus, was part of the Steelers' "family." So his misbehavior from the Steelers' perspective is like a family member who goes off the deep end. You don't just shun them, you try to help and rehabilitate them. 

    The Browns on the other hand? They come off like a hopeless woman that is so desperate for a husband, that she'd marry someone even if she knew he had a history of beating his ex-wife. And didn't Watson reject them at first and then they flew down to meet him and threw all this money at him? How pathetic.

    Yes, because until now, football wasn't all about winning.  The Browns are really changing the game here.  

    Y'all just mad because he's a top 5 qb.  The reality is that an elite qb who is young never becomes available.  Ever.  Browns are trying to win at any cost.  It might blow up in their face, like a Watson massage, or it may pay off.  
    He's not though, Rodgers Allen Mahomes Brady and Dak or Lamar Jackson (maybe) which makes the Brownies falling all over themselves for this loser even LAMER.  
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,836
    ikiT said:
    mrussel1 said:
    CROJAM95 said:
    Regardless if legal/ illegal…. This isn’t face of your franchise behavior…. Not even for the Cleveland shit stains
    And the saddest part is they brought him in! AND gave him the biggest contract ever! I mean, say what you want about the Steelers and Roethlisberger, but at least by time he was accused of similar crimes, he had already won two Super Bowls with the Steelers and thus, was part of the Steelers' "family." So his misbehavior from the Steelers' perspective is like a family member who goes off the deep end. You don't just shun them, you try to help and rehabilitate them. 

    The Browns on the other hand? They come off like a hopeless woman that is so desperate for a husband, that she'd marry someone even if she knew he had a history of beating his ex-wife. And didn't Watson reject them at first and then they flew down to meet him and threw all this money at him? How pathetic.

    Yes, because until now, football wasn't all about winning.  The Browns are really changing the game here.  

    Y'all just mad because he's a top 5 qb.  The reality is that an elite qb who is young never becomes available.  Ever.  Browns are trying to win at any cost.  It might blow up in their face, like a Watson massage, or it may pay off.  
    He's not though, Rodgers Allen Mahomes Brady and Dak or Lamar Jackson (maybe) which makes the Brownies falling all over themselves for this loser even LAMER.  
    Dak and Lamar are in no way better than Watson.  Lamar can't even throw the ball to a wide receiver.  Second, Watson is on the upswing of his career (assuming the year off doesn't kill him).  Brady and Rodgers are wrapping it up. 
  • mfc2006mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,483
    Watson is definitely a talented QB, no doubt about that. Houston had a shot to make it to the SB before they decided to blow the whole team up once they traded Hopkins. That being said, I am glad that Watson is gone. These allegations are hard to ignore and I imagine that there is some truth to them. 
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  • PoncierPoncier Posts: 17,080
    ikiT said:
    mrussel1 said:
    CROJAM95 said:
    Regardless if legal/ illegal…. This isn’t face of your franchise behavior…. Not even for the Cleveland shit stains
    And the saddest part is they brought him in! AND gave him the biggest contract ever! I mean, say what you want about the Steelers and Roethlisberger, but at least by time he was accused of similar crimes, he had already won two Super Bowls with the Steelers and thus, was part of the Steelers' "family." So his misbehavior from the Steelers' perspective is like a family member who goes off the deep end. You don't just shun them, you try to help and rehabilitate them. 

    The Browns on the other hand? They come off like a hopeless woman that is so desperate for a husband, that she'd marry someone even if she knew he had a history of beating his ex-wife. And didn't Watson reject them at first and then they flew down to meet him and threw all this money at him? How pathetic.

    Yes, because until now, football wasn't all about winning.  The Browns are really changing the game here.  

    Y'all just mad because he's a top 5 qb.  The reality is that an elite qb who is young never becomes available.  Ever.  Browns are trying to win at any cost.  It might blow up in their face, like a Watson massage, or it may pay off.  
    He's not though, Rodgers Allen Mahomes Brady and Dak or Lamar Jackson (maybe) which makes the Brownies falling all over themselves for this loser even LAMER.  
    Lamar Jackson a top 5 QB?
    Put down the pipe.
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  • MayDay10MayDay10 Posts: 11,738
    Hebert and burrow have entered the chat
  • F Me In The BrainF Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,389
    Yeah, I'd take Hebert over Dak and Lamar at this point.
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  • PoncierPoncier Posts: 17,080
    Yeah, I'd take Hebert over Dak and Lamar at this point.


    Chargers QB is Herbert


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  • F Me In The BrainF Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,389
    Poncier said:
    Yeah, I'd take Hebert over Dak and Lamar at this point.


    Chargers QB is Herbert


    Ha.  The Cajun Cannon!
    Left out a letter....definitely not the Cajun Cannon.

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  • PoncierPoncier Posts: 17,080
    Throw Bobby throw.
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 49,054
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    Julie: And Bob Herbert's great. He's with the Daily News.
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  • F Me In The BrainF Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,389
    At some point Piecashit is gonna have to really feel the recourse of his actions.
    https://www.si.com/nfl/2022/06/15/deshaun-watson-cases-houston-pd-detective-testified-believes-he-committed-crimes

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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,836
    At some point Piecashit is gonna have to really feel the recourse of his actions.
    https://www.si.com/nfl/2022/06/15/deshaun-watson-cases-houston-pd-detective-testified-believes-he-committed-crimes

    He'll be hurt financially and that lawyer will have a wonderful payday.  Investing in aligning stories will pay off to the tune of 33%.
  • F Me In The BrainF Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,389
    Ha.  
    I'm siding with 20+ people over jock worship.
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,836
    Ha.  
    I'm siding with 20+ people over jock worship.
    I feel like you're just pro tort abuse. 
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