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  • mrussel1 said:
    Ha.  
    I'm siding with 20+ people over jock worship.
    I feel like you're just pro tort abuse. 
    You got me.  It's about abuse of the system, not women.
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,675
    mrussel1 said:
    Ha.  
    I'm siding with 20+ people over jock worship.
    I feel like you're just pro tort abuse. 
    You got me.  It's about abuse of the system, not women.
    I appreciate your transparency. 
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,586
    I found it telling the prosecutor didnt call the lead detective on the case to testify to the grand jury.....

    makes me wonder what and how it was presented to the jury....
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  • mickeyrat said:
    I found it telling the prosecutor didnt call the lead detective on the case to testify to the grand jury.....

    makes me wonder what and how it was presented to the jury....
    Whatever it takes to let people who throw footballs keep abusing women.  
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,675
    mickeyrat said:
    I found it telling the prosecutor didnt call the lead detective on the case to testify to the grand jury.....

    makes me wonder what and how it was presented to the jury....
    Whatever it takes to let people who throw footballs keep abusing women.  
    Why would you think that the prosecutor is corrupt and supports a player that was clearly not going to play for Houston.  Whereas you think the detective is not corrupt because you have some knowledge that he isn't into football?  Can you please clarify your accusation?

    I mean another way to think of it is that our system was intentionally designed so that police,  who can become personally invested in a case,  are not the ones to prosecute.  I mean the Gestapo and NKVD did it that way,  but I tend to think our system is better.  YMMV.
  • mrussel1 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    I found it telling the prosecutor didnt call the lead detective on the case to testify to the grand jury.....

    makes me wonder what and how it was presented to the jury....
    Whatever it takes to let people who throw footballs keep abusing women.  
    Why would you think that the prosecutor is corrupt and supports a player that was clearly not going to play for Houston.  Whereas you think the detective is not corrupt because you have some knowledge that he isn't into football?  Can you please clarify your accusation?

    I mean another way to think of it is that our system was intentionally designed so that police,  who can become personally invested in a case,  are not the ones to prosecute.  I mean the Gestapo and NKVD did it that way,  but I tend to think our system is better.  YMMV.
    A statement about how I feel about our system, at large.  We feed the rich and starve the poor.  People can get away with so much if they are rich and have Rusty Asshole Hardon as their attorney.
    Rape/Assault culture is alive and well in the US, and in professional sports it still thrives.
    The reaction to this piece of garbage, by many, is a perfect example of this, to me.
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,675
    edited June 2022
    mrussel1 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    I found it telling the prosecutor didnt call the lead detective on the case to testify to the grand jury.....

    makes me wonder what and how it was presented to the jury....
    Whatever it takes to let people who throw footballs keep abusing women.  
    Why would you think that the prosecutor is corrupt and supports a player that was clearly not going to play for Houston.  Whereas you think the detective is not corrupt because you have some knowledge that he isn't into football?  Can you please clarify your accusation?

    I mean another way to think of it is that our system was intentionally designed so that police,  who can become personally invested in a case,  are not the ones to prosecute.  I mean the Gestapo and NKVD did it that way,  but I tend to think our system is better.  YMMV.
    A statement about how I feel about our system, at large.  We feed the rich and starve the poor.  People can get away with so much if they are rich and have Rusty Asshole Hardon as their attorney.
    Rape/Assault culture is alive and well in the US, and in professional sports it still thrives.
    The reaction to this piece of garbage, by many, is a perfect example of this, to me.
    So on another thread will you also complain that a Black man is being persecuted for something white people get away with all the time?  Or did his  athlete status supersede his race?
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  • mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    I found it telling the prosecutor didnt call the lead detective on the case to testify to the grand jury.....

    makes me wonder what and how it was presented to the jury....
    Whatever it takes to let people who throw footballs keep abusing women.  
    Why would you think that the prosecutor is corrupt and supports a player that was clearly not going to play for Houston.  Whereas you think the detective is not corrupt because you have some knowledge that he isn't into football?  Can you please clarify your accusation?

    I mean another way to think of it is that our system was intentionally designed so that police,  who can become personally invested in a case,  are not the ones to prosecute.  I mean the Gestapo and NKVD did it that way,  but I tend to think our system is better.  YMMV.
    A statement about how I feel about our system, at large.  We feed the rich and starve the poor.  People can get away with so much if they are rich and have Rusty Asshole Hardon as their attorney.
    Rape/Assault culture is alive and well in the US, and in professional sports it still thrives.
    The reaction to this piece of garbage, by many, is a perfect example of this, to me.
    So on another thread will you also complain that a Black man is being persecuted for something white people get away with all the time?  Or did his  athlete status supersede his race?
    They (athletes) get away with this shit all of the time.

    No reason for me to need to combine that feeling with the feeling I also have about race playing a huge role in how people go through the justice system.  

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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,675
    edited June 2022
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    I found it telling the prosecutor didnt call the lead detective on the case to testify to the grand jury.....

    makes me wonder what and how it was presented to the jury....
    Whatever it takes to let people who throw footballs keep abusing women.  
    Why would you think that the prosecutor is corrupt and supports a player that was clearly not going to play for Houston.  Whereas you think the detective is not corrupt because you have some knowledge that he isn't into football?  Can you please clarify your accusation?

    I mean another way to think of it is that our system was intentionally designed so that police,  who can become personally invested in a case,  are not the ones to prosecute.  I mean the Gestapo and NKVD did it that way,  but I tend to think our system is better.  YMMV.
    A statement about how I feel about our system, at large.  We feed the rich and starve the poor.  People can get away with so much if they are rich and have Rusty Asshole Hardon as their attorney.
    Rape/Assault culture is alive and well in the US, and in professional sports it still thrives.
    The reaction to this piece of garbage, by many, is a perfect example of this, to me.
    So on another thread will you also complain that a Black man is being persecuted for something white people get away with all the time?  Or did his  athlete status supersede his race?
    They (athletes) get away with this shit all of the time.

    No reason for me to need to combine that feeling with the feeling I also have about race playing a huge role in how people go through the justice system.  

    I bet normies get away with it too.  If Watson wasn't a millionaire, not only would you not have heard of him, but an attorney wouldn't give a crap about the case if the girl walked into his office. 
  • CROJAM95CROJAM95 Posts: 9,870
    His defense/nflpa supposedly to outline that OWNERS have been in similar situations without any serious repercussions 

    prob won’t float, but if it makes some people remember Kraft, Snyder, Jerry & others are kind of creeps too… I’m for it

    Deshaun is pretty dumb though, this stuff writes itself 
  • CROJAM95 said:
    His defense/nflpa supposedly to outline that OWNERS have been in similar situations without any serious repercussions 

    prob won’t float, but if it makes some people remember Kraft, Snyder, Jerry & others are kind of creeps too… I’m for it

    Deshaun is pretty dumb though, this stuff writes itself 
    I agree that making those guys look like the creeps they are is great but pointing at someone else and saying "they did it too" doesn't work for kindergarten kids and it can't work for scummy lawyers

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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,675
    CROJAM95 said:
    His defense/nflpa supposedly to outline that OWNERS have been in similar situations without any serious repercussions 

    prob won’t float, but if it makes some people remember Kraft, Snyder, Jerry & others are kind of creeps too… I’m for it

    Deshaun is pretty dumb though, this stuff writes itself 
    I agree that making those guys look like the creeps they are is great but pointing at someone else and saying "they did it too" doesn't work for kindergarten kids and it can't work for scummy lawyers

    It will be a powerful argument for the NFLPA when fighting the suspension.  In fact, league principles indicate that owners and executives shall be held to a higher disciplinary standard than players.  And it will be in front of a third party arbiter, a retired judge.  Roger will have no say in the matter.  I don’t see why you wouldn’t think that would be an effective argument for the NFLPA.  


  • Nananadoodoo stick your head in poopoo

    Weak kindergarten argument.  By that argument nothing would change because someone could always point at the last fuckstick.
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,675
    Nananadoodoo stick your head in poopoo

    Weak kindergarten argument.  By that argument nothing would change because someone could always point at the last fuckstick.
    You're kidding right? You think the Black players should be held to a higher standard than the owners and executives? What a joke.  I've been mostly trolling here with my statements about tort law and such,  but now this is league punishment and you're way off base. 
  • Way to climb for the high ground.
    I don't put both issues together.  I'm against the owners in sports and am for minorities and players, in general, and consistently. 
    I'm against people of all types who commit crimes against wwomen.  This is consistent. 
    I don't feel the need to live in a box of your creation.

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  • Back on topic....Watson and the Browns are trash.
    :lol:
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,675
    edited June 2022
    Way to climb for the high ground.
    I don't put both issues together.  I'm against the owners in sports and am for minorities and players, in general, and consistently. 
    I'm against people of all types who commit crimes against wwomen.  This is consistent. 
    I don't feel the need to live in a box of your creation.

    Yeah I'm with you.  I mean if a middle age guy got busted for dealing coke and wasn't prosecuted at all, that doesn't mean the Black kid shouldn't be.  He could get the death penalty for all I care.  Nanana boo boo.  Tough shit.  

    Oh and let me know when Watson commits a crime against women.  Far as I know he hasn't.  But I guess you are judge, jury and executioner since you have access to much more information (Espn, NY Times) than the Grand Jury had.  Makes sense.  You are definitely for minorities, I can totally tell.  And you probably hate the media too. 
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,675
    Back on topic....Watson and the Browns are trash.
    :lol:
    Due process is trash. 
  • :heartbreak:
    :smirk:
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,675
    :heartbreak:
    :smirk:
    I don't know how to do those, but imagine a poop emoji, and maybe a rooster. 
  • 💩 
    🐓 
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,675
    💩 
    🐓 
    You're goddam right
  • WobbieWobbie Posts: 30,173
    mrussel1 said:
    Wobbie said:
    I’m completely on F’me’s side. Deshaun SHOULD lose his “livelihood”…..especially when it’s $230M to throw a fucking football. the browns should be ashamed. anyone else accused of all this shit would be losing their “livelihoods”, whatever that livelihood might be.

    too many privileged people in this world think they can do whatever the fuck they want.
    I appreciate the significant virtue signaling. 
    mrussel1 said:
    Wobbie said:
    I’m completely on F’me’s side. Deshaun SHOULD lose his “livelihood”…..especially when it’s $230M to throw a fucking football. the browns should be ashamed. anyone else accused of all this shit would be losing their “livelihoods”, whatever that livelihood might be.

    too many privileged people in this world think they can do whatever the fuck they want.
    I appreciate the significant virtue signaling. 
    Another silly term people love to use when talking smack on people these days.
    As if discussing things like this doesn't makes the positions one holds clear enough....


    they love their “tucker carlsonisms”…. “woke,” “cancel culture,” “SJW,” etc. “virtue signaling”is a new one to me.
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  • Don't try to reason with the rape brigade.
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  • This would automatically become my 2nd favorite team, as long as Jones didn't own.
    Hardly a shock that he would oppose
    https://theathletic.com/news/cowboys-jerry-jones-second-nfl-team-dallas/jeDpq0xfqh3q/
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,018
    No condolences for Tony The Goose Siragusa?

    RIP big guy.
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  • CROJAM95CROJAM95 Posts: 9,870
    Tough day for Ravens & theirs today

    RIP to Jaylon Ferguson too
  • That Athletic article is an interesting  contrast to ESPN's sham coverage, where they rank each team and list their xfactor.  (Cleveland ranked highly (#6) and didn't mention Watson, at all.  As if he is not going to miss games/season(s).)


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  • WobbieWobbie Posts: 30,173
    No condolences for Tony The Goose Siragusa?

    RIP big guy.
    that guy was a fucking clown. RIP, I guess.
    If I had known then what I know now...

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