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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,598
    F Me In The Brain said:


    Bad Bill is the best coach I have ever seen and I give him more credit than Brady.  Does not mean that I poo on Brady -- he is great.  May be the greatest QB of all time.  I think there is a better case for other QBs being nearly as great as TB12 as other coaches being nearly as great as BBAngry.  Bad Bill is miles beyond any other head coach given how much more complex everything in football is these days and how he has sustained excellence for these years.
    The second half adjustments alone make him the greatest of all time in my book.

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  • The Juggler
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    edited January 2019
    pjhawks said:
    F Me In The Brain said:
    Brady is great, amazing.  Everyone agrees.  Even people who hate football love Tom Brady.
    Tom Brady is the greatest quarterback that god ever created.
    If Tom Brady wants to build a wall, who are we to say no?



    In all seriousness, Brady is great.

    Bad Bill is the best coach I have ever seen and I give him more credit than Brady.  Does not mean that I poo on Brady -- he is great.  May be the greatest QB of all time.  I think there is a better case for other QBs being nearly as great as TB12 as other coaches being nearly as great as BBAngry.  Bad Bill is miles beyond any other head coach given how much more complex everything in football is these days and how he has sustained excellence for these years.
    14 games under .500 before Brady too over. 
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    Continuing to not acknowledge that the bulk of his time in Cleveland was a rebuild in the days before free agency and then his team was blown up in historic fashion after an 11 win season is a reflection of your poor argument. 

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  • mcgruff10
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    Halifax2TheMax said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    F Me In The Brain said:
    Brady is great, amazing.  Everyone agrees.  Even people who hate football love Tom Brady.
    Tom Brady is the greatest quarterback that god ever created.
    If Tom Brady wants to build a wall, who are we to say no?



    In all seriousness, Brady is great.

    Bad Bill is the best coach I have ever seen and I give him more credit than Brady.  Does not mean that I poo on Brady -- he is great.  May be the greatest QB of all time.  I think there is a better case for other QBs being nearly as great as TB12 as other coaches being nearly as great as BBAngry.  Bad Bill is miles beyond any other head coach given how much more complex everything in football is these days and how he has sustained excellence for these years.
    You put TB12 in Cleveland and they ain’t having the same level of success. You put mad bill in Cleveland and they’re not having the same level of success. You put TB12  and mad bill in Cleveland and they’re not having the same level of success. It takes more than the greatest coach and qb of all time. Way more.
    This would be correct. (Why are you and I agreeing so much today?)
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  • Ledbetterman10
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    The Juggler said:
    One guy is likely the greatest quarterback of all time. 
    The other guy is likely the greatest coach of all time.

    To disparage one or the other means you're on the wrong side of the argument. 
    I was off work yesterday for MLK day and when I woke up, I decided to throw on one of those sports "debate" shows to see what people were saying about the two great games on Sunday. I flipped to either ESPN or FS1 (don't remember which but it doesn't matter because they're all the same) and the topic being presented to the talking heads was "How much percentage of the credit do you give to Brady, and how much to Belichick?" I rolled my eyes and threw on Netflix. 
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  • The Juggler
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    Ledbetterman10 said:
    The Juggler said:
    One guy is likely the greatest quarterback of all time. 
    The other guy is likely the greatest coach of all time.

    To disparage one or the other means you're on the wrong side of the argument. 
    I was off work yesterday for MLK day and when I woke up, I decided to throw on one of those sports "debate" shows to see what people were saying about the two great games on Sunday. I flipped to either ESPN or FS1 (don't remember which but it doesn't matter because they're all the same) and the topic being presented to the talking heads was "How much percentage of the credit do you give to Brady, and how much to Belichick?" I rolled my eyes and threw on Netflix. 
    Those shows are all garbage. It's essentially sports talk radio on tv 
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  • pjhawks
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    The Juggler said:
    F Me In The Brain said:


    Bad Bill is the best coach I have ever seen and I give him more credit than Brady.  Does not mean that I poo on Brady -- he is great.  May be the greatest QB of all time.  I think there is a better case for other QBs being nearly as great as TB12 as other coaches being nearly as great as BBAngry.  Bad Bill is miles beyond any other head coach given how much more complex everything in football is these days and how he has sustained excellence for these years.
    The second half adjustments alone make him the greatest of all time in my book.

    2nd half adjustments last week weren't so great. blew a 14 point lead not to mention a 3 point lead in about 40 seconds.  fortunately for Bill he got bailed out by Brady :)
  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,961
    edited January 2019
    The Juggler said:
    pjhawks said:
    F Me In The Brain said:
    Brady is great, amazing.  Everyone agrees.  Even people who hate football love Tom Brady.
    Tom Brady is the greatest quarterback that god ever created.
    If Tom Brady wants to build a wall, who are we to say no?



    In all seriousness, Brady is great.

    Bad Bill is the best coach I have ever seen and I give him more credit than Brady.  Does not mean that I poo on Brady -- he is great.  May be the greatest QB of all time.  I think there is a better case for other QBs being nearly as great as TB12 as other coaches being nearly as great as BBAngry.  Bad Bill is miles beyond any other head coach given how much more complex everything in football is these days and how he has sustained excellence for these years.
    14 games under .500 before Brady too over. 
    C
    O
    N
    T
    E
    X
    T
    is everything.

    Continuing to not acknowledge that the bulk of his time in Cleveland was a rebuild in the days before free agency and then his team was blown up in historic fashion after an 11 win season is a reflection of your poor argument. 

    so context having a bad clevelvand organization is important...but having the greatest QB of all time is not? 
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    some take the context one way and some take the context another way.  we agree to disagree.  to me the greatest QB of all time has a greater effect on the coach then the coach does on the QB.  i guess two ways to look at it.  mine is correct but two ways to look at it :)
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  • The Juggler
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    pjhawks said:
    The Juggler said:
    F Me In The Brain said:


    Bad Bill is the best coach I have ever seen and I give him more credit than Brady.  Does not mean that I poo on Brady -- he is great.  May be the greatest QB of all time.  I think there is a better case for other QBs being nearly as great as TB12 as other coaches being nearly as great as BBAngry.  Bad Bill is miles beyond any other head coach given how much more complex everything in football is these days and how he has sustained excellence for these years.
    The second half adjustments alone make him the greatest of all time in my book.

    2nd half adjustments last week weren't so great. blew a 14 point lead not to mention a 3 point lead in about 40 seconds.  fortunately for Bill he got bailed out by Brady :)
    It’s the team trailing who makes the adjustments dummy...
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  • pjhawks
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    The Juggler said:
    pjhawks said:
    The Juggler said:
    F Me In The Brain said:


    Bad Bill is the best coach I have ever seen and I give him more credit than Brady.  Does not mean that I poo on Brady -- he is great.  May be the greatest QB of all time.  I think there is a better case for other QBs being nearly as great as TB12 as other coaches being nearly as great as BBAngry.  Bad Bill is miles beyond any other head coach given how much more complex everything in football is these days and how he has sustained excellence for these years.
    The second half adjustments alone make him the greatest of all time in my book.

    2nd half adjustments last week weren't so great. blew a 14 point lead not to mention a 3 point lead in about 40 seconds.  fortunately for Bill he got bailed out by Brady :)
    It’s the team trailing who makes the adjustments dummy...
    so Reid outcoached him because he made better adjustments.  thanks for playing :)
  • The Juggler
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    pjhawks said:
    The Juggler said:
    pjhawks said:
    The Juggler said:
    F Me In The Brain said:


    Bad Bill is the best coach I have ever seen and I give him more credit than Brady.  Does not mean that I poo on Brady -- he is great.  May be the greatest QB of all time.  I think there is a better case for other QBs being nearly as great as TB12 as other coaches being nearly as great as BBAngry.  Bad Bill is miles beyond any other head coach given how much more complex everything in football is these days and how he has sustained excellence for these years.
    The second half adjustments alone make him the greatest of all time in my book.

    2nd half adjustments last week weren't so great. blew a 14 point lead not to mention a 3 point lead in about 40 seconds.  fortunately for Bill he got bailed out by Brady :)
    It’s the team trailing who makes the adjustments dummy...
    so Reid outcoached him because he made better adjustments.  thanks for playing :)
    Yeah that makes sense. 
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  • pjhawks
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    The Juggler said:
    pjhawks said:
    The Juggler said:
    pjhawks said:
    The Juggler said:
    F Me In The Brain said:


    Bad Bill is the best coach I have ever seen and I give him more credit than Brady.  Does not mean that I poo on Brady -- he is great.  May be the greatest QB of all time.  I think there is a better case for other QBs being nearly as great as TB12 as other coaches being nearly as great as BBAngry.  Bad Bill is miles beyond any other head coach given how much more complex everything in football is these days and how he has sustained excellence for these years.
    The second half adjustments alone make him the greatest of all time in my book.

    2nd half adjustments last week weren't so great. blew a 14 point lead not to mention a 3 point lead in about 40 seconds.  fortunately for Bill he got bailed out by Brady :)
    It’s the team trailing who makes the adjustments dummy...
    so Reid outcoached him because he made better adjustments.  thanks for playing :)
    Yeah that makes sense. 
    it was sarcasm big guy. sorry if that didn't come across. we need a sarcasm font.
  • The Juggler
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     Unfortunately the only coach Reid got the better of in game of that magnitude was... the legendary Jim Mora Jr. 
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  • Cliffy6745
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    They’re both Fucking turds
  • Halifax2TheMax
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    Cliffy6745 said:
    They’re both Fucking turds
    Mora and Reid? Yea.
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  • Wobbie
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    mcgruff10 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    F Me In The Brain said:
    Brady is great, amazing.  Everyone agrees.  Even people who hate football love Tom Brady.
    Tom Brady is the greatest quarterback that god ever created.
    If Tom Brady wants to build a wall, who are we to say no?



    In all seriousness, Brady is great.

    Bad Bill is the best coach I have ever seen and I give him more credit than Brady.  Does not mean that I poo on Brady -- he is great.  May be the greatest QB of all time.  I think there is a better case for other QBs being nearly as great as TB12 as other coaches being nearly as great as BBAngry.  Bad Bill is miles beyond any other head coach given how much more complex everything in football is these days and how he has sustained excellence for these years.
    You put TB12 in Cleveland and they ain’t having the same level of success. You put mad bill in Cleveland and they’re not having the same level of success. You put TB12  and mad bill in Cleveland and they’re not having the same level of success. It takes more than the greatest coach and qb of all time. Way more.
    This would be correct. (Why are you and I agreeing so much today?)

    maybe he’s been getting laid?
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    F Me In The Brain said:
    Brady is great, amazing.  Everyone agrees.  Even people who hate football love Tom Brady.
    Tom Brady is the greatest quarterback that god ever created.
    If Tom Brady wants to build a wall, who are we to say no?





    don’s good friend bob could teach him a thing or two about tanning.
    If I had known then what I know now...

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    Give Peas A Chance…
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    HAHAHA! Too funny.
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    Can he just use the same videos from 2001?
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    Meltdown99 said:

    Hahaha!!
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