I like Ryan, he just looked off in the games I watched. (Very much so)
Julio & Ryan deserve another crack at SB... wasn’t their fault they lost that game
Julio I agree, but Ryan deserves a sliver of blame pie. Biggest hunk goes to Shanahan for sure, but Ryan could/should have audibled to a run at least once, maybe a couple times late and could/should have thrown the ball away rather than taking that key sack late that took them out of FG range.
he won that game....if you listen to Packers HC Lafleur, who was ATL QB Coach that year, Shanahan didn't give too much leeway for audibles, Devonta Freeman Missed a huge block that caused the fumble.....if he farted on Hightower that would have prevented the sack
Look at his QB rating for that game, one of the highest ever....yes Shanahan helped, but hes had great years without him
Fraud is funny.....Guy also plays for shitty offensive Line ( Give him Cowboys Offensive Line) also never ever ever in his entire career have they fielded a top ten Defense.....and he won an MVP, Played well in the 2012 or 2013 NFC title game that the 49ers also came back due to his shitty HC Smith.
Problem with Matt Ryan is he plays in ATL.....Fans don't care there, national audience barely knows they exist
I think what's an interesting conversion is: "Does the coaching staff constantly change because the QB isn't good enough and gets the OC and/or HC fired? Or is the organization not getting the coaching staff right to maximize the QB's ability?" Matt Ryan seems to be an interesting case study for that discussion.
RG3 comes to mind...
He was great. Got two coaches fired. Got hurt. Got run out of the league after his talent didn't go any further.
Should have listened to them coaches...
The coaches shouldn't have put him back on the field with his knee in the condition it was in. I worry about this happening to Mahomes after dislocating his right knee cap and playing with a brace. It's a hell of a thing to toss around in your mind. QB or coach more at fault.
Shanahan never wanted him. Was forced t play him. Can't place everything on the coach there.
I know the Redskins suck as an organization but RG3 was gone shortly after Gruden got there because he still didn't work out.
I like Ryan, he just looked off in the games I watched. (Very much so)
Julio & Ryan deserve another crack at SB... wasn’t their fault they lost that game
Julio I agree, but Ryan deserves a sliver of blame pie. Biggest hunk goes to Shanahan for sure, but Ryan could/should have audibled to a run at least once, maybe a couple times late and could/should have thrown the ball away rather than taking that key sack late that took them out of FG range.
he won that game....if you listen to Packers HC Lafleur, who was ATL QB Coach that year, Shanahan didn't give too much leeway for audibles, Devonta Freeman Missed a huge block that caused the fumble.....if he farted on Hightower that would have prevented the sack
Look at his QB rating for that game, one of the highest ever....yes Shanahan helped, but hes had great years without him
Fraud is funny.....Guy also plays for shitty offensive Line ( Give him Cowboys Offensive Line) also never ever ever in his entire career have they fielded a top ten Defense.....and he won an MVP, Played well in the 2012 or 2013 NFC title game that the 49ers also came back due to his shitty HC Smith.
Problem with Matt Ryan is he plays in ATL.....Fans don't care there, national audience barely knows they exist
I think what's an interesting conversion is: "Does the coaching staff constantly change because the QB isn't good enough and gets the OC and/or HC fired? Or is the organization not getting the coaching staff right to maximize the QB's ability?" Matt Ryan seems to be an interesting case study for that discussion.
Really?
look at ATL football before Ryan, vs after he got there
2 NFC championship game appearances, 1 SB lose in 40 years
Ryan Matched that and is still playing
So I guess Dan Marino is < Eli Manning listening to some of this logic
Atlanta is a shitty sports town.... I think it’s pretty impressive what he’s done there..... you of all people should know, Mahomes ain’t winning shit ... D can’t stop a nose bleed.
Dan Quinn hasn’t delivered on his defensive expertise... you can’t win having just offense.
I like Ryan, he just looked off in the games I watched. (Very much so)
Julio & Ryan deserve another crack at SB... wasn’t their fault they lost that game
Julio I agree, but Ryan deserves a sliver of blame pie. Biggest hunk goes to Shanahan for sure, but Ryan could/should have audibled to a run at least once, maybe a couple times late and could/should have thrown the ball away rather than taking that key sack late that took them out of FG range.
he won that game....if you listen to Packers HC Lafleur, who was ATL QB Coach that year, Shanahan didn't give too much leeway for audibles, Devonta Freeman Missed a huge block that caused the fumble.....if he farted on Hightower that would have prevented the sack
Look at his QB rating for that game, one of the highest ever....yes Shanahan helped, but hes had great years without him
Fraud is funny.....Guy also plays for shitty offensive Line ( Give him Cowboys Offensive Line) also never ever ever in his entire career have they fielded a top ten Defense.....and he won an MVP, Played well in the 2012 or 2013 NFC title game that the 49ers also came back due to his shitty HC Smith.
Problem with Matt Ryan is he plays in ATL.....Fans don't care there, national audience barely knows they exist
I think what's an interesting conversion is: "Does the coaching staff constantly change because the QB isn't good enough and gets the OC and/or HC fired? Or is the organization not getting the coaching staff right to maximize the QB's ability?" Matt Ryan seems to be an interesting case study for that discussion.
Really?
look at ATL football before Ryan, vs after he got there
2 NFC championship game appearances, 1 SB lose in 40 years
Ryan Matched that and is still playing
So I guess Dan Marino is < Eli Manning listening to some of this logic
Atlanta is a shitty sports town.... I think it’s pretty impressive what he’s done there..... you of all people should know, Mahomes ain’t winning shit ... D can’t stop a nose bleed.
Dan Quinn hasn’t delivered on his defensive expertise... you can’t win having just offense.
I'm not taking a side on either for Matt Ryan. Mind you, I'm still holding the guy in high regard. He did have his best season under Kyle Shannahan as OC, but that may have been Ryan making KS look good.
I'm not sure how I insinuated that because of the logic you think I threw out there that I'm saying Dan Marino, or another QB of similar standing is worse than an "Eli Manning."
Mahomes will win shit, because he's that good. Dude can carry a team like few other can. If the D doesn't get better, he'll still back into one like Manning did in the mid-2000's by the team catching lightning in a bottle in late December through the playoffs. If KC doesn't win it this year, they still have several more shots at it.
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Helmet smash was inexcusable, but all that could've been avoided if Rudolph didn't act like a bitch and just took the hit. All these damn quarterbacks are so pampered they don't even know what a routine tackle is anymore. Then he went to the presscon and said, "What Garrett did was cowardly and bush league." Motherfucker, you started it! You tried to yank Garrett's helmet first, it just didn't come off. Lol
There were 8 seconds left, the game result was locked in and Garrett gave Rudolph a suplex well after he got rid of the ball.
No he didn’t. Garrett landed underneath Rudolph and did nothing else malicious during the actual play. If you think there was anything truly dirty before Rudolph’s hissy fit you’re clearly biased.
All these people calling for lifetime bans and even season ending suspensions are idiots. I’m saying 3 or 4 games and multiple game suspensions for Rudolph and Pouncey too. Rudolph started the whole thing and Pouncey was just Pouncey-ing.
Burfict got 12 games for a late hit that didnt even phase the other guy. He had a history, yes, but lets see what the league does. This was something never seen before. If players trying to keep the peace get suspended these days then multiple players last night should be suspended for fighting. Garrett might not even get an official number of games
So its rudolph's and soft rules protecting the quarterback's fault garrett had to rip his helmet off and hit him over the head with it?
Not even garrett's teammates or coaches are defending him, and going as far to denounce the actions.
He is done at least 4 games, could be the rest of the season. Pouncey should get a game or 2 for attacking late after he was restrained.
Im not biased, and dont have a dog in the fight. If anything, i hate the steelers.
I need to watch it again, but i recall a clearly excessive and late takedown of rudolph well after he got rid of the ball. Me and the guy i was watching it with both commented "along the lines of "oh man here we go" at the time of the "hit'.
Rudolph acted frustrated and escalated the situation for sure... but then what garrett did was so far over the top and off the scale.
There were 8 seconds left, the game result was locked in and Garrett gave Rudolph a suplex well after he got rid of the ball.
No he didn’t. Garrett landed underneath Rudolph and did nothing else malicious during the actual play. If you think there was anything truly dirty before Rudolph’s hissy fit you’re clearly biased.
All these people calling for lifetime bans and even season ending suspensions are idiots. I’m saying 3 or 4 games and multiple game suspensions for Rudolph and Pouncey too. Rudolph started the whole thing and Pouncey was just Pouncey-ing.
He did not land completely underneath him. Rudolph landed on his shoulder, clearly. After being driven 5 yards after the ball was clearly gone. Garret knew what he was doing. Rudolph retaliated, like an idiot.
Dewie I'm guessing your good with the headhunting the Browns safeties were doing as well. When Randolph was smiling, before his ejection, after knocking Johnson out, you celebrating the good clean hit?
Let me add, I do think Rudolph should maybe get a game(multiple is comical). Pouncey as well. And the other Browns lineman that came in late and hit Rudolph later? Probably him too.
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Should be Garrett suspended for 6 (which is balance of season) and Pouncey for 2. Rudolph and the other lineman don't warrant suspension for the incident. Fines yes.
What shall the NFL Wheel of Justice decide? If I was Miles I would be scared as shit. This seems like a bunny for Goodell and he will flex his muscles to protect “the shield “.
There were 8 seconds left, the game result was locked in and Garrett gave Rudolph a suplex well after he got rid of the ball.
No he didn’t. Garrett landed underneath Rudolph and did nothing else malicious during the actual play. If you think there was anything truly dirty before Rudolph’s hissy fit you’re clearly biased.
All these people calling for lifetime bans and even season ending suspensions are idiots. I’m saying 3 or 4 games and multiple game suspensions for Rudolph and Pouncey too. Rudolph started the whole thing and Pouncey was just Pouncey-ing.
He did not land completely underneath him. Rudolph landed on his shoulder, clearly. After being driven 5 yards after the ball was clearly gone. Garret knew what he was doing. Rudolph retaliated, like an idiot.
Dewie I'm guessing your good with the headhunting the Browns safeties were doing as well. When Randolph was smiling, before his ejection, after knocking Johnson out, you celebrating the good clean hit?
Let me add, I do think Rudolph should maybe get a game(multiple is comical). Pouncey as well. And the other Browns lineman that came in late and hit Rudolph later? Probably him too.
Looks underneath to me.
He didn’t drive him anywhere. He was trying to take Rudolph down because he presumed he still had the ball. Nothing illegal about the tackle and Garrett had every opportunity to pick Rudolph up and do whatever he wished with him.
I honestly didn’t watch any part of the game besides this play. Not condoning illegal or dirty play.
Rudolph started the whole thing with his bitch fit and Pouncey kicked and punched a guy that was being held down by another Steeler.
Garrett definitely needs the longest suspension but his part looked way uglier than it actually turned out.
There were 8 seconds left, the game result was locked in and Garrett gave Rudolph a suplex well after he got rid of the ball.
No he didn’t. Garrett landed underneath Rudolph and did nothing else malicious during the actual play. If you think there was anything truly dirty before Rudolph’s hissy fit you’re clearly biased.
All these people calling for lifetime bans and even season ending suspensions are idiots. I’m saying 3 or 4 games and multiple game suspensions for Rudolph and Pouncey too. Rudolph started the whole thing and Pouncey was just Pouncey-ing.
He did not land completely underneath him. Rudolph landed on his shoulder, clearly. After being driven 5 yards after the ball was clearly gone. Garret knew what he was doing. Rudolph retaliated, like an idiot.
Dewie I'm guessing your good with the headhunting the Browns safeties were doing as well. When Randolph was smiling, before his ejection, after knocking Johnson out, you celebrating the good clean hit?
Let me add, I do think Rudolph should maybe get a game(multiple is comical). Pouncey as well. And the other Browns lineman that came in late and hit Rudolph later? Probably him too.
Looks underneath to me.
He didn’t drive him anywhere. He was trying to take Rudolph down because he presumed he still had the ball. Nothing illegal about the tackle and Garrett had every opportunity to pick Rudolph up and do whatever he wished with him.
I honestly didn’t watch any part of the game besides this play. Not condoning illegal or dirty play.
Rudolph started the whole thing with his bitch fit and Pouncey kicked and punched a guy that was being held down by another Steeler.
Garrett definitely needs the longest suspension but his part looked way uglier than it actually turned out.
Seriously? You are making a wild assumption that he knew he still had the ball. I'm not defending Rudolph for trying to punch him while on the ground, but it is comical saying Garrets part was not as bad as it looks.
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I know the Redskins suck as an organization but RG3 was gone shortly after Gruden got there because he still didn't work out.
look at ATL football before Ryan, vs after he got there
2 NFC championship game appearances, 1 SB lose in 40 years
Ryan Matched that and is still playing
So I guess Dan Marino is < Eli Manning listening to some of this logic
Atlanta is a shitty sports town.... I think it’s pretty impressive what he’s done there..... you of all people should know, Mahomes ain’t winning shit ... D can’t stop a nose bleed.
Dan Quinn hasn’t delivered on his defensive expertise... you can’t win having just offense.
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That was such a brutal and unnecessary hit....he deserved to get ejected. Browns are so sloppy. Not surprising with that coach.
Dude, that was exactly what they wrote the rule to stop. F off and enjoy the locker room!
There were 8 seconds left, the game result was locked in and Garrett gave Rudolph a suplex well after he got rid of the ball.
That dude should be out for a year. Fuck him.
All these people calling for lifetime bans and even season ending suspensions are idiots. I’m saying 3 or 4 games and multiple game suspensions for Rudolph and Pouncey too. Rudolph started the whole thing and Pouncey was just Pouncey-ing.
Not even garrett's teammates or coaches are defending him, and going as far to denounce the actions.
He is done at least 4 games, could be the rest of the season. Pouncey should get a game or 2 for attacking late after he was restrained.
Im not biased, and dont have a dog in the fight. If anything, i hate the steelers.
I need to watch it again, but i recall a clearly excessive and late takedown of rudolph well after he got rid of the ball. Me and the guy i was watching it with both commented "along the lines of "oh man here we go" at the time of the "hit'.
Rudolph acted frustrated and escalated the situation for sure... but then what garrett did was so far over the top and off the scale.
Dewie I'm guessing your good with the headhunting the Browns safeties were doing as well. When Randolph was smiling, before his ejection, after knocking Johnson out, you celebrating the good clean hit?
Let me add, I do think Rudolph should maybe get a game(multiple is comical). Pouncey as well. And the other Browns lineman that came in late and hit Rudolph later? Probably him too.
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Rudolph and the other lineman don't warrant suspension for the incident. Fines yes.
People are acting like Rudolph was maimed and it didn’t seem to phase him, was my point.
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