I think that Garrett should get the season, with a 'review' for next year (which basically will be rubber-stamped reinstated at the beginning of the league-year). Pouncey gets 2-3 games for kicking/punching late after the situation was relatively under control and Garrett was restrained
Rudolph and Ogunjobi both fined.
Anyone else on video throwing punches, etc fined.
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it was late and excessive for 8 seconds left up by 14. It wasn't all-out violent, but unnecessary and the flashpoint for confrontation. Yes, Rudolph acted like a frustrated baby the entire time... but Garrett's helmet dragging well after the fact, capped by the helmet swing at a human head is unprecedented.
it was late and excessive for 8 seconds left up by 14. It wasn't all-out violent, but unnecessary and the flashpoint for confrontation. Yes, Rudolph acted like a frustrated baby the entire time... but Garrett's helmet dragging well after the fact, capped by the helmet swing at a human head is unprecedented.
Gotta love the "but he started it!!!" takes. That's probably the worst thing I've ever seen on a football field. Should be suspended the rest of the season at the very least.
Gotta love the "but he started it!!!" takes. That's probably the worst thing I've ever seen on a football field. Should be suspended the rest of the season at the very least.
Do you mean the “Rudolph started it with the junk kicks and helmet grab” or “Garrett started it with the late hit”?
Looks like the neck padding on the back of the helmet absorbed the noggin hit.
I remember watching a donnybrook between Nevada and Hawaii in a bowl game and this huge Guy raised his helmet to smash an assistant coach in the back of the skull with a Thor hammer throw and right in the middle of his downswing the pile shifted and he just missed killing this dude.
I don't think they should suspend the dude for kicking him in the head. If you are an o-lineman and you see a guy rip your QB's helmet off and play human whack-a-mole and think you are obliged to try to murder that individual. 15 yard penalty at most.
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So its rudolph's and soft rules protecting the quarterback's fault garrett had to rip his helmet off and hit him over the head with it?
Not even garrett's teammates or coaches are defending him, and going as far to denounce the actions.
He is done at least 4 games, could be the rest of the season. Pouncey should get a game or 2 for attacking late after he was restrained.
Im not biased, and dont have a dog in the fight. If anything, i hate the steelers.
I need to watch it again, but i recall a clearly excessive and late takedown of rudolph well after he got rid of the ball. Me and the guy i was watching it with both commented "along the lines of "oh man here we go" at the time of the "hit'.
Rudolph acted frustrated and escalated the situation for sure... but then what garrett did was so far over the top and off the scale.
I think you missed the helmet smash was inexcusable part of my statement. We are over that part. He's gone. Im more talking about Rudolph being held accountable also. That ball came out fast. How many times have we seen defenders let go of QBs after wrapping, Wentz or Brady for example, because they thought the ball was out and they ended up getting away and making a play. Eight seconds or not, that is just a defender tackling hard. Doesn't justify getting hit in the helmet, but don't go on TV acting like an angel and like you didn't start the whole thing. Not even a slight hint of him holding himself accountable for his part of that fight.
There were 8 seconds left, the game result was locked in and Garrett gave Rudolph a suplex well after he got rid of the ball.
No he didn’t. Garrett landed underneath Rudolph and did nothing else malicious during the actual play. If you think there was anything truly dirty before Rudolph’s hissy fit you’re clearly biased.
All these people calling for lifetime bans and even season ending suspensions are idiots. I’m saying 3 or 4 games and multiple game suspensions for Rudolph and Pouncey too. Rudolph started the whole thing and Pouncey was just Pouncey-ing.
He did not land completely underneath him. Rudolph landed on his shoulder, clearly. After being driven 5 yards after the ball was clearly gone. Garret knew what he was doing. Rudolph retaliated, like an idiot.
Dewie I'm guessing your good with the headhunting the Browns safeties were doing as well. When Randolph was smiling, before his ejection, after knocking Johnson out, you celebrating the good clean hit?
Let me add, I do think Rudolph should maybe get a game(multiple is comical). Pouncey as well. And the other Browns lineman that came in late and hit Rudolph later? Probably him too.
Looks underneath to me.
He didn’t drive him anywhere. He was trying to take Rudolph down because he presumed he still had the ball. Nothing illegal about the tackle and Garrett had every opportunity to pick Rudolph up and do whatever he wished with him.
I honestly didn’t watch any part of the game besides this play. Not condoning illegal or dirty play.
Rudolph started the whole thing with his bitch fit and Pouncey kicked and punched a guy that was being held down by another Steeler.
Garrett definitely needs the longest suspension but his part looked way uglier than it actually turned out.
less than a second. given how the tackle was achieved. Garret was rolling him down.
I'll give you he likely didnt know the ball was thrown when he started the tackle. this all happened very quickly. it does appear , after having rudolph down he continued to drive him into the ground. I highly doubt rudolph was purposefully attempting to remove garrets helmet while on the ground. at which time garret is on his feet , rudolph still down , when garret grabbed rudolphs facemadk and tried dragging him.
as for pouncey, yes it was wrong to attempt to kick, but look closely, that kick was partially block by a cleveland players leg.
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Gotta love the "but he started it!!!" takes. That's probably the worst thing I've ever seen on a football field. Should be suspended the rest of the season at the very least.
Do you mean the “Rudolph started it with the junk kicks and helmet grab” or “Garrett started it with the late hit”?
The takes that Rudolph started it. Regardless of who "started it", Garrett needs to be suspended for a very long time.
Gotta love the "but he started it!!!" takes. That's probably the worst thing I've ever seen on a football field. Should be suspended the rest of the season at the very least.
Do you mean the “Rudolph started it with the junk kicks and helmet grab” or “Garrett started it with the late hit”?
The takes that Rudolph started it. Regardless of who "started it", Garrett needs to be suspended for a very long time.
He definitely isnt an innocent bystander, and some frustration got the better of him after Garrett took him down roughly and unnecessarily (IMO). He went back after Garrett pretty hard just prior to the helmet-swing, but it is kind of hard to blame him for being furious at that point after literally getting dragged around by his facemask. He should be fined for his role in this, but he didnt do anything that awful or dangerous.
Gotta love the "but he started it!!!" takes. That's probably the worst thing I've ever seen on a football field. Should be suspended the rest of the season at the very least.
Do you mean the “Rudolph started it with the junk kicks and helmet grab” or “Garrett started it with the late hit”?
The takes that Rudolph started it. Regardless of who "started it", Garrett needs to be suspended for a very long time.
He definitely isnt an innocent bystander, and some frustration got the better of him after Garrett took him down roughly and unnecessarily (IMO). He went back after Garrett pretty hard just prior to the helmet-swing, but it is kind of hard to blame him for being furious at that point after literally getting dragged around by his facemask. He should be fined for his role in this, but he didnt do anything that awful or dangerous.
For sure. It's just amazing to me how people try to justify someone using a helmet as a fucking weapon. It's crazy.
Who is justifying that? If you think Garrett took him down hard or slammed him, or suplexed him etc etc then you’re not watching the same play or you’re influenced by homerism or even the nature of Cleveland’s play to that point.
Cleveland’s dirty play was taken care of during the game with penalties and ejections and will be taken care of after the game with fines and suspensions. Not on Rudolph to get frustrated and nut shot a guy repeatedly, directly causing what followed.
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Who is justifying that? If you think Garrett took him down hard or slammed him, or suplexed him etc etc then you’re not watching the same play or you’re influenced by homerism or even the nature of Cleveland’s play to that point.
Cleveland’s dirty play was taken care of during the game with penalties and ejections and will be taken care of after the game with fines and suspensions. Not on Rudolph to get frustrated and nut shot a guy repeatedly, directly causing what followed.
Not sure what you're even talking about here. Homerism?? I don't give a shit about either team. There's plenty of morons out there on twitter trying to blame Rudolph for the whole thing. Pretty sure "But Rudolph" was trending on twitter last night.
Who is justifying that? If you think Garrett took him down hard or slammed him, or suplexed him etc etc then you’re not watching the same play or you’re influenced by homerism or even the nature of Cleveland’s play to that point.
Cleveland’s dirty play was taken care of during the game with penalties and ejections and will be taken care of after the game with fines and suspensions. Not on Rudolph to get frustrated and nut shot a guy repeatedly, directly causing what followed.
Not sure what you're even talking about here. Homerism?? I don't give a shit about either team. There's plenty of morons out there on twitter trying to blame Rudolph for the whole thing. Pretty sure "But Rudolph" was trending on twitter last night.
Many more morons claiming Garrett should be expelled from the league, sued and prosecuted.
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Nothing excuses what Garrett did.
That should end all of the blaming of Rudolph.
BTW, I fully support Rudolph's reactions. No way that was not excessive by the D-lineman.
Also, dude was knocked the fuck out a few weeks ago on a helmet to helmet hit, and he watched the parade of asshole moments from Cleveland players last night.
If you H2H someone and they are blown up, on the ground, looking like they were temple shot from a clock-tower....and you laugh (like that pile of waste did last night) I think you should be out for multiple games.
Clearly this was an intentional approach by the team.
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Garrett should get the season, with a 'review' for next year (which basically will be rubber-stamped reinstated at the beginning of the league-year).
Pouncey gets 2-3 games for kicking/punching late after the situation was relatively under control and Garrett was restrained
Rudolph and Ogunjobi both fined.
Anyone else on video throwing punches, etc fined.
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