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Amongst the Ani

And he is now unemployed. I assume Dallas will sign him whenever his suspension ends.

rr165892

Last-12-Exit said:

I'm a bills fan. Anything that fucks the patriots, I'm fine with. Brady sitting out vs buffalo week 2 or 3 is A OK with me.

But this deflated balls suspension is bull shit. If the league said belechick and kraft had no knowledge of this, why did they get fined and lose draft picks? And since you're so sure they cheated in a super bowl, it shouldnt be that difficult to cite one link that verifies that claim.

Scott ,as long as your not a stinking Panther fan.

rr165892

Smith has all the talent in the world,but he is an idiot who just dosent get it.

Jason P

http://static.nfl.com/static/content/public/video/2012/09000d5d8265144a_

Legacy! Cheating since 1981!

cutz

pjhawks said:

cutz said:

Last season, the Carolina Panthers and Minnesota Vikings were caught, on a cold day, using sideline heaters to warm up footballs. That's against the rules. You can argue that it's not the same level as deflating footballs, but it has the same effect: something outside of the rules to make the football easier to grip and catch. The Vikings and Panthers were warned. That's it. Nothing more.

In 2012 the Chargers used towels with an sticky substance on their game balls and didn't give them up to the NFL immediately when ordered to do so. If you think the Panthers-Vikings thing was just some honest mistake, it's a lot harder to convince anyone that there was no intent by the Chargers to gain a competitive advantage. The Chargers' punishment? A $20,000 fine. That's it. Nothing more.

1st offense and neither of those teams cheated in a Super Bowl(s) and were caught. a convicted felon will get more time for a misdemeanor than someone with no record at all. not a hard concept.

Like you said: TEAMS. Not that Brady did the cheating. Even if he did, 4 games? Hell, actual felons got less games then the misdemeanor that Brady MAY have done>LOL!!

Also, wasn't the team(Patriots) fined and lost draft picks already?(for this incident)>If so, why does Brady have to sit 4 games then?

Note: I'm not a Patriots fan.

pjhawks

cutz said:

pjhawks said:

cutz said:

Last season, the Carolina Panthers and Minnesota Vikings were caught, on a cold day, using sideline heaters to warm up footballs. That's against the rules. You can argue that it's not the same level as deflating footballs, but it has the same effect: something outside of the rules to make the football easier to grip and catch. The Vikings and Panthers were warned. That's it. Nothing more.

In 2012 the Chargers used towels with an sticky substance on their game balls and didn't give them up to the NFL immediately when ordered to do so. If you think the Panthers-Vikings thing was just some honest mistake, it's a lot harder to convince anyone that there was no intent by the Chargers to gain a competitive advantage. The Chargers' punishment? A $20,000 fine. That's it. Nothing more.

1st offense and neither of those teams cheated in a Super Bowl(s) and were caught. a convicted felon will get more time for a misdemeanor than someone with no record at all. not a hard concept.

Like you said: TEAMS. Not that Brady did the cheating. Even if he did, 4 games? Hell, actual felons got less games then the misdemeanor that Brady MAY have done>LOL!!

Also, wasn't the team(Patriots) fined and lost draft picks already?(for this incident)>If so, why does Brady have to sit 4 games then?

Note: I'm not a Patriots fan.

because he had someone destroy his phone the day the NFL asked to see it in clear defiance. his attitude and lack of cooperation is why he got 4 games NOT for deflated footballs. he would have been better off keeping the phone and telling the NFL they have no right to see it instead of having someone destroy it. the act of destroying the phone shows the appearance of a coverup whether true or not.

ed243421

pjhawks said:

cutz said:

pjhawks said:

cutz said:

Last season, the Carolina Panthers and Minnesota Vikings were caught, on a cold day, using sideline heaters to warm up footballs. That's against the rules. You can argue that it's not the same level as deflating footballs, but it has the same effect: something outside of the rules to make the football easier to grip and catch. The Vikings and Panthers were warned. That's it. Nothing more.

In 2012 the Chargers used towels with an sticky substance on their game balls and didn't give them up to the NFL immediately when ordered to do so. If you think the Panthers-Vikings thing was just some honest mistake, it's a lot harder to convince anyone that there was no intent by the Chargers to gain a competitive advantage. The Chargers' punishment? A $20,000 fine. That's it. Nothing more.

1st offense and neither of those teams cheated in a Super Bowl(s) and were caught. a convicted felon will get more time for a misdemeanor than someone with no record at all. not a hard concept.

Like you said: TEAMS. Not that Brady did the cheating. Even if he did, 4 games? Hell, actual felons got less games then the misdemeanor that Brady MAY have done>LOL!!

Also, wasn't the team(Patriots) fined and lost draft picks already?(for this incident)>If so, why does Brady have to sit 4 games then?

Note: I'm not a Patriots fan.

because he had someone destroy his phone the day the NFL asked to see it in clear defiance. his attitude and lack of cooperation is why he got 4 games NOT for deflated footballs. he would have been better off keeping the phone and telling the NFL they have no right to see it instead of having someone destroy it. the act of destroying the phone shows the appearance of a coverup whether true or not.

So using that same logic, has the NFL done anything that shows the appearance of a cover-up?

http://itiswhatitis.weei.com/sports/newengland/football/patriots/2015/08/07/former-federal-prosecutor-john-dowd-calls-for-nfl-to-correct-an-injustice-to-tom-brady/

cutz

pjhawks said:

cutz said:

pjhawks said:

cutz said:

Last season, the Carolina Panthers and Minnesota Vikings were caught, on a cold day, using sideline heaters to warm up footballs. That's against the rules. You can argue that it's not the same level as deflating footballs, but it has the same effect: something outside of the rules to make the football easier to grip and catch. The Vikings and Panthers were warned. That's it. Nothing more.

In 2012 the Chargers used towels with an sticky substance on their game balls and didn't give them up to the NFL immediately when ordered to do so. If you think the Panthers-Vikings thing was just some honest mistake, it's a lot harder to convince anyone that there was no intent by the Chargers to gain a competitive advantage. The Chargers' punishment? A $20,000 fine. That's it. Nothing more.

1st offense and neither of those teams cheated in a Super Bowl(s) and were caught. a convicted felon will get more time for a misdemeanor than someone with no record at all. not a hard concept.

Like you said: TEAMS. Not that Brady did the cheating. Even if he did, 4 games? Hell, actual felons got less games then the misdemeanor that Brady MAY have done>LOL!!

Also, wasn't the team(Patriots) fined and lost draft picks already?(for this incident)>If so, why does Brady have to sit 4 games then?

Note: I'm not a Patriots fan.

because he had someone destroy his phone the day the NFL asked to see it in clear defiance. his attitude and lack of cooperation is why he got 4 games NOT for deflated footballs. he would have been better off keeping the phone and telling the NFL they have
no right to see it instead of having someone destroy it. the act of destroying the phone shows the appearance of a coverup whether true or not.

I thought this all started because of deflated footballs?

It should've never got to that point, like i pointed out. Pats should've been fined and lost draft picks and that SHOULD"VE been done right after the Super Bowl. Frickin' all of this over deflated footballs?(Deflated for a half? Balls were so deflated that the Refs didn't notice during the first half?) Really?

I thought the NFL got the texts from the ball boys? If so, i would have to think that Brady's replies would be on them? Hell, i wouldn't give my phone either and i'm no where near the celeberty that Brady is>LOL

HesCalledDyer

People have been arguing over god damn deflated footballs for 7 months. Jesus fucking Christ who gives a shit?

Roger Goodell is a bigger joke than Gary Bettman. The NFL in its entirety is a big fucking joke. I'm done with this laughing stock of a league.

The Juggler

cutz said:

pjhawks said:

cutz said:

pjhawks said:

cutz said:

Last season, the Carolina Panthers and Minnesota Vikings were caught, on a cold day, using sideline heaters to warm up footballs. That's against the rules. You can argue that it's not the same level as deflating footballs, but it has the same effect: something outside of the rules to make the football easier to grip and catch. The Vikings and Panthers were warned. That's it. Nothing more.

In 2012 the Chargers used towels with an sticky substance on their game balls and didn't give them up to the NFL immediately when ordered to do so. If you think the Panthers-Vikings thing was just some honest mistake, it's a lot harder to convince anyone that there was no intent by the Chargers to gain a competitive advantage. The Chargers' punishment? A $20,000 fine. That's it. Nothing more.

1st offense and neither of those teams cheated in a Super Bowl(s) and were caught. a convicted felon will get more time for a misdemeanor than someone with no record at all. not a hard concept.

Like you said: TEAMS. Not that Brady did the cheating. Even if he did, 4 games? Hell, actual felons got less games then the misdemeanor that Brady MAY have done>LOL!!

Also, wasn't the team(Patriots) fined and lost draft picks already?(for this incident)>If so, why does Brady have to sit 4 games then?

Note: I'm not a Patriots fan.

because he had someone destroy his phone the day the NFL asked to see it in clear defiance. his attitude and lack of cooperation is why he got 4 games NOT for deflated footballs. he would have been better off keeping the phone and telling the NFL they have
no right to see it instead of having someone destroy it. the act of destroying the phone shows the appearance of a coverup whether true or not.

I thought this all started because of deflated footballs?

It should've never got to that point, like i pointed out. Pats should've been fined and lost draft picks and that SHOULD"VE been done right after the Super Bowl. Frickin' all of this over deflated footballs?(Deflated for a half? Balls were so deflated that the Refs didn't notice during the first half?) Really?

I thought the NFL got the texts from the ball boys? If so, i would have to think that Brady's replies would be on them? Hell, i wouldn't give my phone either and i'm no where near the celeberty that Brady is>LOL

Dumbest scandal in the history of professional sports.

Cliffy6745

I think it's awesome. Fuck Brady

The best thing to come out of this was the fact that people who know Brady think he is just as much of a bitch as the rest of the world does.

g under p

Jason P said:

http://static.nfl.com/static/content/public/video/2012/09000d5d8265144a_

Legacy! Cheating since 1981!

I watched that game as a youth and at the time it was not illegal to do what that parole did. No fines or penalties were given out. The same thing could have happened in Green Bay or Cleveland if they were alert and smart enough to do so.

Peace

Poncier

Amongst the Ani said:

Last-12-Exit said:

JK_Livin said:

They were caught video taping opponents walk throughs the day before a game. Fined and a videotape was destroyed by the league. Google it for more info.

I'm pretty sure spygate was the patriots illegally recording the new York jets during the regular season. Which super bowls are you referring to? If you're going to accuse a team of cheating during super bowl(s), you should be more specific.

It was the Rams super bowl. Faulk has brought up that the Rams saw someone video taping them during the final walk through. The installed a new run play just for that game for the red zone and barely practiced it as to keep it a secret. They went through it at the final walk through. When they broke it out in game the Pats acted like they knew it was coming. Not proof but with spy gate made sense they video taped it.

profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/30/marshall-faulk-patriots-cheated-the-rams-out-of-a-super-bowl/

The writer who broke the Rams walk through video taping story later admitted he was given bad info from unreliable sources and the taping never happened.
It was all made up by these sources so a story could break on the eve of the Super Bowl to provide a distraction.


http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/And-finally-the-long-awaited-John-Tomase-apolog?urn=nfl,82786


Faulk just likes to perpetuate a false story to make himself feel better.

ed243421

Poncier said:

Amongst the Ani said:

Last-12-Exit said:

JK_Livin said:

They were caught video taping opponents walk throughs the day before a game. Fined and a videotape was destroyed by the league. Google it for more info.

I'm pretty sure spygate was the patriots illegally recording the new York jets during the regular season. Which super bowls are you referring to? If you're going to accuse a team of cheating during super bowl(s), you should be more specific.

It was the Rams super bowl. Faulk has brought up that the Rams saw someone video taping them during the final walk through. The installed a new run play just for that game for the red zone and barely practiced it as to keep it a secret. They went through it at the final walk through. When they broke it out in game the Pats acted like they knew it was coming. Not proof but with spy gate made sense they video taped it.

profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/30/marshall-faulk-patriots-cheated-the-rams-out-of-a-super-bowl/

The writer who broke the Rams walk through video taping story later admitted he was given bad info from unreliable sources and the taping never happened.
It was all made up by these sources so a story could break on the eve of the Super Bowl to provide a distraction.


http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/And-finally-the-long-awaited-John-Tomase-apolog?urn=nfl,82786


Faulk just likes to perpetuate a false story to make himself feel better.

c'mon ponce

brady haters don't like facts

Jason P

The 49ers self destruction this off season has been fascinating.

The Juggler

Cliffy6745 said:

I think it's awesome. Fuck Brady

The best thing to come out of this was the fact that people who know Brady think he is just as much of a bitch as the rest of the world does.

Would not surprise me one bit to see them in AFC championship game yet again

igotid88

The Juggler said:

Cliffy6745 said:

I think it's awesome. Fuck Brady

The best thing to come out of this was the fact that people who know Brady think he is just as much of a bitch as the rest of the world does.

Would not surprise me one bit to see them in AFC championship game yet again

As long as Belichick isn't suspended

norm

the jets are awesome!

http://espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/story/_/id/13416881/geno-smith-new-york-jets-6-10-weeks-broken-jaw?ex_cid=espnTW

Cliffy6745

The Juggler said:

Cliffy6745 said:

I think it's awesome. Fuck Brady

The best thing to come out of this was the fact that people who know Brady think he is just as much of a bitch as the rest of the world does.

Would not surprise me one bit to see them in AFC championship game yet again

Yeah...point being?

Jason P

norm said:

the jets are awesome!

http://espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/story/_/id/13416881/geno-smith-new-york-jets-6-10-weeks-broken-jaw?ex_cid=espnTW

And Ryan Fitzpatrick yet again finds a way to be a starting QB. Might be a blessing for the Jets.