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JK_Livin said:

Last-12-Exit said:

New England cheated in a super bowl?

Multiple

What did they do?

JK_Livin

They were caught video taping opponents walk throughs the day before a game. Fined and a videotape was destroyed by the league. Google it for more info.

ed243421

JK_Livin said:

Last-12-Exit said:

New England cheated in a super bowl?

Multiple

go on.....

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JK_Livin said:

They were caught video taping opponents walk throughs the day before a game. Fined and a videotape was destroyed by the league. Google it for more info.

I'm pretty sure spygate was the patriots illegally recording the new York jets during the regular season. Which super bowls are you referring to? If you're going to accuse a team of cheating during super bowl(s), you should be more specific.

JK_Livin

Don't be naive. They only taped regular season practices? Where's your proof of that?

Amongst the Ani

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JK_Livin said:

They were caught video taping opponents walk throughs the day before a game. Fined and a videotape was destroyed by the league. Google it for more info.

I'm pretty sure spygate was the patriots illegally recording the new York jets during the regular season. Which super bowls are you referring to? If you're going to accuse a team of cheating during super bowl(s), you should be more specific.

It was the Rams super bowl. Faulk has brought up that the Rams saw someone video taping them during the final walk through. The installed a new run play just for that game for the red zone and barely practiced it as to keep it a secret. They went through it at the final walk through. When they broke it out in game the Pats acted like they knew it was coming. Not proof but with spy gate made sense they video taped it.

profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/30/marshall-faulk-patriots-cheated-the-rams-out-of-a-super-bowl/

Amongst the Ani

Fucking Aldon Smith. As a 49ers fan I hope they cut his ass this morning before he even gets out of jail. They won't get the cap space (5th year option year of his rookie deal) back and it shouldn't matter.

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JK_Livin said:

Don't be naive. They only taped regular season practices? Where's your proof of that?

I'm not being naive. But if you're going to accuse a team of cheating, the burden of proof is on you to prove it.

As far as Marshall Faulk whining because they got beat by the patriots in that super bowl, what more would you expect?

pjhawks

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JK_Livin said:

Don't be naive. They only taped regular season practices? Where's your proof of that?

I'm not being naive. But if you're going to accuse a team of cheating, the burden of proof is on you to prove it.

As far as Marshall Faulk whining because they got beat by the patriots in that super bowl, what more would you expect?

once a cheater always a cheater. convicted once the label is always there. the burden falls on you to prove you are no longer a cheat...which of course deflate gate just goes to show you they are still cheaters a decade later.

JK_Livin

You think the Patriots were fined (the biggest fine ever at the time), stripped of a pick and had the tape destroyed because they taped a Jets regular season practice? Practice? That's funny.

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I'm a bills fan. Anything that fucks the patriots, I'm fine with. Brady sitting out vs buffalo week 2 or 3 is A OK with me.

But this deflated balls suspension is bull shit. If the league said belechick and kraft had no knowledge of this, why did they get fined and lose draft picks? And since you're so sure they cheated in a super bowl, it shouldnt be that difficult to cite one link that verifies that claim.

Amongst the Ani

The leagues destroyed the tapes before anyone could verify what was on them. That is also why I claim bullshit on it. The NFL is releasing Brady's personal emails over a pool cover but couldn't even comment on what was on those tapes. We will never know unless Goodell gets fired and does a tell all book. Or someone in the Pats grows a conscious and finally owns up to it. I say let the conspiracies fly as this is what they deserve for doing that.

Cliffy6745

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I'm a bills fan. Anything that fucks the patriots, I'm fine with. Brady sitting out vs buffalo week 2 or 3 is A OK with me.

But this deflated balls suspension is bull shit. If the league said belechick and kraft had no knowledge of this, why did they get fined and lose draft picks? And since you're so sure they cheated in a super bowl, it shouldnt be that difficult to cite one link that verifies that claim.

As with the Saints, a lack of control or ignorance is not an excuse

Ledbetterman10

Being a "cheater" is a mentality and it's a mentality that the Patriots have. Frankly, I don't think their cheating has given them much of an advantage. In 2007, Eric Mangini called them out on the videotaping stuff because, as the new Jets coach, he didn't want them to have an advantage. Well they went on to win 18 straight games that year and almost won the Super Bowl. This year, there's the deflated ball thing. Brady probably has used undersized balls for years. But I think we can all agree that if there was ever a game where the PSI of the balls was going to be correct and Brady wouldn't have an "advantage", it was this year's Super Bowl. And Brady ended up playing great and they won.

The Pats are kinda like a billionaire who has all the money he needs, but he still cheats on his taxes or pilfers money through a shady charity. He's already rich! Why do that stuff? Because it's a mentality. There's entitlement issues with people like that and the Patriots have it in spades. And all they've done is hurt themselves.

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Cliffy6745 said:

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I'm a bills fan. Anything that fucks the patriots, I'm fine with. Brady sitting out vs buffalo week 2 or 3 is A OK with me.

But this deflated balls suspension is bull shit. If the league said belechick and kraft had no knowledge of this, why did they get fined and lose draft picks? And since you're so sure they cheated in a super bowl, it shouldnt be that difficult to cite one link that verifies that claim.

As with the Saints, a lack of control or ignorance is not an excuse

You're comparing the saints trying to hurt people to deflating 2 psi out of footballs? If this was true, belechick would be suspended.

Indifference71

I'd assume the 49ers will be releasing him shortly....

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/13393290/aldon-smith-san-francisco-49ers-arrested-hit-run-dui

Cliffy6745

Quoted wrong comment

Cliffy6745

Last-12-Exit said:

Cliffy6745 said:

Last-12-Exit said:

I'm a bills fan. Anything that fucks the patriots, I'm fine with. Brady sitting out vs buffalo week 2 or 3 is A OK with me.

But this deflated balls suspension is bull shit. If the league said belechick and kraft had no knowledge of this, why did they get fined and lose draft picks? And since you're so sure they cheated in a super bowl, it shouldnt be that difficult to cite one link that verifies that claim.

As with the Saints, a lack of control or ignorance is not an excuse

You're comparing the saints trying to hurt people to deflating 2 psi out of footballs? If this was true, belechick would be suspended.

No comparing anything but the excuses

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Indifference71 said:

I'd assume the 49ers will be releasing him shortly....

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/13393290/aldon-smith-san-francisco-49ers-arrested-hit-run-dui

This guy has some real life problems.

F Me In The Brain

Last-12-Exit said:

Indifference71 said:

I'd assume the 49ers will be releasing him shortly....

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/13393290/aldon-smith-san-francisco-49ers-arrested-hit-run-dui

This guy has some real life problems.

Fuck the grease fire grows.
As talented as he is, if he just went down with his third dui in the last year or two he needs to be released. He is going to kill someone....there are mistakes and then there is just plain stupid.