The National Football League

Jason P

RW81233

Indifference71 wrote:

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computer facepalms are much less consussive and damaging than a football game...i've said many times i love watching this game but dear lord this does not bode well for the NFL.

81

Jason P wrote:

RW81233

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2012/05/08/ ... -comments/

Giants’ Osi: Toomer ‘Dead Wrong’ For Comments On Warner
NEW YORK (WFAN) – Former Giants wide receiver Amani Toomer has been a one-man headline machine lately.

Toomer wasn’t too thrilled with the worries aired out last week by ex-NFL quarterback Kurt Warner, who said the idea of his sons playing football frightened him in the wake of “Bountygate” in New Orleans, the league’s increased number of concussions and the suicide of Junior Seau.

“I’d definitely have my son to play football,” Toomer said Thursday. “That’s what the Toomer family does. We all play football. What this reminds me of is the guy at the basketball court, who once he gets done playing takes the ball and ruins the game for everybody else.”

He added: “I think Kurt Warner needs to keep his opinions to himself when it comes to this. Everything that he’s gotten in his life has come from playing football. He works at the NFL Network right now. For him to try and trash the game, it seems to me that it’s just a little disingenuous to me.”

Toomer’s comments drew harsh criticism from a pair of former teammates. Giants defensive end Osi Umenyiora defended Warner in a series of tweets Tuesday.

“Love Toomer thats my Guy, but he is dead wrong for attacking Kurt like that,” Umenyiora wrote.

Earlier, Umenyiora tweeted Warner was right “to think how he is thinking about his kids and football,” adding that it has been “an awesome game and has done a lot for me” but down the road “there is a strong chance (I’ll) be in a wheelchair.”

“If i can avoid that for my son, i will,” Umenyiora posted via Twitter. “But if he wants to play i wont stop him.”

Trevor Pryce, who played with Toomer at Michigan, said his ex-teammate’s salvo was “probably the most idiotic thing I’ve ever heard.”

“Here’s why,” Pryce told Jim Rome on the CBS Sports Network, “the fact that Kurt Warner said he didn’t want his kids playing football should be predicated on one thing — he didn’t want his kids playing NFL football. And that’s a big difference. Little league football? Every kid wants to play little league football.”

For Toomer, it wasn’t anything personal.

“I love Kurt … I just didn’t agree with his recent comments,” he tweeted last week. “Friends can disagree. right?”

Indifference71

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norm

hey Vikings fans...check out your new stadium

http://youtu.be/vFyFCuBgRTA

RW81233

will the suicide rate in Minnesota go up or down if the Vikings leave? On the one hand there might be an immediate spike because the team is gone, but the long term effects of having a team that sucks that bad out of the area might be good for the city and state.

DS1119

norm wrote:

hey Vikings fans...check out your new stadium

http://youtu.be/vFyFCuBgRTA

I hate seeing franchises move. They mean so much more to areas than just economics. My fingers are crossed for Buffalo.

Jason P

The Vikings are one more vote away from approving the stadium. I guess the gun-to-the-head approach the NFL and the owners is working.

Looks like gambling money will be used for a large portion. A lot of grammas will be building this stadium a nickle at a time.

Uff Da!

norm

so there won't be the los angeles vikings

http://deadspin.com/5909394/?utm_campai ... socialflow

81

"And the end of the day, it's a tough sport. You're going to take shots in the head and you're going to get concussions from time to time. But no one made me play football. No one put a gun to my head and said, 'You have to play football.' It's what I love to do, and I knew the risks and the benefits going into it.''

DS1119

81 wrote:

"And the end of the day, it's a tough sport. You're going to take shots in the head and you're going to get concussions from time to time. But no one made me play football. No one put a gun to my head and said, 'You have to play football.' It's what I love to do, and I knew the risks and the benefits going into it.''

There's someone here who will debate this tomorrow. I'll wait... :corn:

Indifference71

DS1119 wrote:

81 wrote:

"And the end of the day, it's a tough sport. You're going to take shots in the head and you're going to get concussions from time to time. But no one made me play football. No one put a gun to my head and said, 'You have to play football.' It's what I love to do, and I knew the risks and the benefits going into it.''

There's someone here who will debate this tomorrow. I'll wait... :corn:

Pretty shocking that a guy like Cutler is the one who said something that makes the most sense about all this concussion stuff.

Please no debates today :nono: :fp:

RW81233

No we wouldn't want to think about the sport we love :nono: . We've already had a million arguments about "free will" and some of you see it as being nearly true, and some of us don't. I generally do like Cutler but would say that it's easier for someone to say what he said coming from Santa Claus, Indiana, with a median income of 61k (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santa_Claus,_Indiana), and a private school education from Vanderbilt than some other players in the league. I think the really interesting part is to see how fractured the players themselves are on this with Toomer and Cutler arguing against Uminyera (sp) and Warner.

81

i'm confused.

Jason P

$61K is a very good medium income. Although it's only 2/3 of the medium income in the town Toomer was born, it's still very decent.

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RW81233

There's also 0 poverty in Santa Claus it really is a magical place...they must forcibly move the poor to Krampus, Indiana. I wasn't making any arguments 81 that's probably why you are confused...All I said was it's generally easier to think that an individual has free will to do whatever it is they please when they come from a privileged class background. So Toomer (who came from an even more privileged background) and Cutler making these arguments isn't surprising. It's also not surprising that Warner, who worked as a grocery stocker under gods orders, has a different outlook on things. Wasn't Osi a rich kid though? Maybe it was his "liberal educators" at Notre Dame (haahahahaha) that got him to think differently.

81

i'm confused because i thought rich people weren't suppose to play football, that it was a poor man's game?

RW81233

81 wrote:

i'm confused because i thought rich people weren't suppose to play football, that it was a poor man's game?

seriously?

Jason P

81 wrote:

i'm confused because i thought rich people weren't suppose to play football, that it was a poor man's game?

It's not that they aren't supposed to play football, they just have more important things to do like preserve their health and exploit the poor. Apparently this is all determined in college.