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JK_Livin

The Waiting Trophy Man wrote: »

To steal from The Juggler, bad calls/no calls have been part of football since the game was invented, my friends. Just like dirty players and dirty plays. Get over it.

Also, the same guy that didn't get the pass interference call also didn't get a face mask penalty called against him on the same play. The Lions got away with running into the kicker after the Cowboys got penalized for the same thing. It happens all the time. And as mentioned, the Lions had plenty of chances to win the game and they couldn't pull the trigger. They had the ball with 2:32 left in the game. Plenty of time left. It was theirs if they wanted it.

The running into the kicker calls were not the same. The Dallas player struck the plant leg, automatic roughing, whereas the Detroit player was on his feet trying to hold up and did not strike the punter. He made brief contact. Blandino also said that it wasn't a facemask on the Detroit player on the Non-PI flag. Not trying to dwell on it but facts are facts.

JK_Livin

F Me In The Brain

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
Funniest picture of the year so far.
Might want to strip that though

Jason P

I'm hopeful that the city of St. Louis calls the NFL's bluff on the LA relocation. The worst thing that could happen to the NFL is losing their leverage of the threat of LA relocation by actually having a team in LA.

It would be harder to dupe taxpayers of existing franchises into funding their "non-profit" stadiums.

Indifference71

Jason P wrote: »

I'm hopeful that the city of St. Louis calls the NFL's bluff on the LA relocation. The worst thing that could happen to the NFL is losing their leverage of the threat of LA relocation by actually having a team in LA.

It would be harder to dupe taxpayers of existing franchises into funding their "non-profit" stadiums.

I feel like there have been so many new stadiums built in the past 20 years....what teams are even left that need a stadium besides the Raiders? My guess is the Rams will be in LA in 2016.

Wobbie

Last-12-Exit wrote: »

imalive wrote: »

Last-12-Exit wrote: »

It's bad enough that the PI call was over turned after the ref announced it and walked off the yardage, but how did dez not get a 15 yd unsportsmanlike penalty? Has that been addressed at all? I haven't listened to any sports radio today. Was that mentioned?

we're past this....old news....move on if you can.

The question was if the issue of dez running on the field was addressed on talk radio.

I should shoot myself for keeping this alive, but....

mike perreira just said holding/interference should have been called; dez should not have been flagged....happens all the time and "helmet on" only pertains to players "in" the game.

Jason P

Indifference71 wrote: »

Jason P wrote: »

I'm hopeful that the city of St. Louis calls the NFL's bluff on the LA relocation. The worst thing that could happen to the NFL is losing their leverage of the threat of LA relocation by actually having a team in LA.

It would be harder to dupe taxpayers of existing franchises into funding their "non-profit" stadiums.

I feel like there have been so many new stadiums built in the past 20 years....what teams are even left that need a stadium besides the Raiders? My guess is the Rams will be in LA in 2016.

The NFL need LA leverage to force taxpayers into building new stadiums in St Louis, San Diego, Buffalo, Miami, Kansas City, and Oakland.

Their plan worked in Minnesota. Politicians in fear of their jobs are using voter's money to fund $500M with another $20-$30M annually once the new stadium opens.

The Redskins are already pining about a new stadium even though their current one isn't even 20 years old.

If LA has a team, there aren't many cities left that pose serious threat to steal a team. Maybe San Antonio but that's about it after Toronto showed little fan interest.

F Me In The Brain

Funny but I lived in LA when they lost both teams and was there until early 2012 & I LOVED that they lost the teams. Granted, I wasnt a fan of either team but neither was pretty much anyone I knew. A city of transplants and everyone seemed to like a team from somewhere else. My love came mostly from the fact that I could watch teams other than the Lambs and Nightmares play. They both suck such a high percentage of the time it was brutal to have to watch their games -- when you only got 3 games a week during normal football slots on Sundays (there was always Monday and later came Sunday night and now Thursday....soon Mon, Tues, Wed, Thurs, Fri, Sun lol) and 2 of them were already taken with the suck ass Rams and Raiders it was painful.
I wonder how many people in LA right now REALLY want a team. Obviously the people that will make loads of money from it want it but do the people really want it? Maybe they are happy with Trojans/Bruins and going to San Diego if they want to attend an NFL game?
I would be but I not longer live there & I know money talks anyhow.

Last-12-Exit

It's funny how all the cowboy fans are saying get over it.

Indifference71

Jason P wrote: »

Indifference71 wrote: »

Jason P wrote: »

I'm hopeful that the city of St. Louis calls the NFL's bluff on the LA relocation. The worst thing that could happen to the NFL is losing their leverage of the threat of LA relocation by actually having a team in LA.

It would be harder to dupe taxpayers of existing franchises into funding their "non-profit" stadiums.

I feel like there have been so many new stadiums built in the past 20 years....what teams are even left that need a stadium besides the Raiders? My guess is the Rams will be in LA in 2016.

The NFL need LA leverage to force taxpayers into building new stadiums in St Louis, San Diego, Buffalo, Miami, Kansas City, and Oakland.

Their plan worked in Minnesota. Politicians in fear of their jobs are using voter's money to fund $500M with another $20-$30M annually once the new stadium opens.

The Redskins are already pining about a new stadium even though their current one isn't even 20 years old.

If LA has a team, there aren't many cities left that pose serious threat to steal a team. Maybe San Antonio but that's about it after Toronto showed little fan interest.

I understand the leverage thing. But the NFL is desperate to get back to LA. They're not going to leave the #2 market in the country purposely open just so other teams can use it as leverage.

Indifference71

imalive wrote: »

Last-12-Exit wrote: »

imalive wrote: »

Last-12-Exit wrote: »

It's bad enough that the PI call was over turned after the ref announced it and walked off the yardage, but how did dez not get a 15 yd unsportsmanlike penalty? Has that been addressed at all? I haven't listened to any sports radio today. Was that mentioned?

we're past this....old news....move on if you can.

The question was if the issue of dez running on the field was addressed on talk radio.

I should shoot myself for keeping this alive, but....

mike perreira just said holding/interference should have been called; dez should not have been flagged....happens all the time and "helmet on" only pertains to players "in" the game.

Blandino said a flag could have been thrown on Bryant. It was up to the official and for some reason, he chose not to throw a flag. It has nothing to do with Bryant not having a helmet on....it's about him storming onto the field to dispute a call. The whole situation was handled poorly by the officiating crew.

The Juggler

haha

http://www.philly.com/philly/news/new_jersey/20150107_Cowboys_owner_s_ties_to_Port_Authority_questioned.html

Cowboys owner's ties to Port Authority questioned


As New Jersey Gov. Christopher J. Christie faces criticism over gifts he received from Dallas Cowboys owner Jerry Jones, the NFL honcho's ties to the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey are also coming under scrutiny.

In March 2013, Christie, a longtime Cowboys fan, and New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo announced they had selected Legends Hospitality - which is owned by the New York Yankees, the Cowboys and the Checketts Partners Investment Fund - to develop and run an observation deck on the top of the port authority-owned One World Trade Center.

The Port Authority board, whose members are appointed by Christie and Cuomo, approved the contract, noting in a statement at the time that the approval "followed yesterday's call from Governors Cuomo and Christie to endorse the award of a contract to Legends."

The Cowboys' business connection to the port authority was first reported by the Wall Street Journal and comes as Christie is facing a questions for accepting tickets to Dallas games and a private plane ride from Jones.


Asked for comment, the Governor's Office referred questions to the port authority.

New Jersey ethics rules permit the governor to accept gifts from friends, but ethics experts told The Inquirer that such substantial gifts could give the impression of trying to curry influence or favor.

Interactions between Jones and Christie, a Republican weighing a 2016 presidential bid, have made the news several times recently.

Christie, who has attended five Cowboys games this season, was seen high-fiving Jones after Dallas' win over the Eagles in Philadelphia last month, and a video of the pair in a group hug during the Cowboys' win over Detroit on Sunday was widely distributed on social media.

When Legends was selected for the One World Observatory Project, the port authority said the firm was selected after a "rigorous competition" among six proposals.

The financial terms of the deal haven't been publicly disclosed.

Randy Levine, Yankees president and Legends board member, told the Journal the bidding process didn't involve personal favors, and said Christie and Jones weren't personally involved.

Jones, whose family owns a "significant" stake in Legends, according to Levine, was quoted in a news release after the firm was selected, saying the business was "humbled to have been chosen to operate the Observatory Deck and are committed to provide all who visit with a memorable experience that honors what the building represents not just locally, but nationally as well."

The observation deck, expected to open early this year, is projected to bring in $875 million in revenue for the port authority over 15 years, the agency has said.

Read more at http://www.philly.com/philly/news/new_jersey/20150107_Cowboys_owner_s_ties_to_Port_Authority_questioned.html#LsXfWOjv64bcjTiP.99

Wobbie

MORE CONSPIRACY THEORY!!!!! @-)

The Waiting Trophy Man

The officials should not have picked the flag up after announcing the penalty. That was wrong. But picking up the flag did not cement the victory for Dallas.
I think the officials owe an apology to not only Detroit, but to Dallas. They had a stellar year and won their way into the playoffs legitimately. Now their playoff win is tainted because these idiots can't make up their minds on a PI call. But I really don't think it's fair to put any blame on Dallas. And as amusing as it is to picture Jerry Jones paying them off, that's not what happened. There's no conspiracy. There was no fix. It was a penalty that was handled poorly by the officials and they are the only ones to blame - no one else. Lions fans and NFL fans in general have a right to be pissed - but not at the Cowboys. Hate them for all your other reasons all you want to, but they aren't responsible for poor officiating.

F Me In The Brain

The Waiting Trophy Man wrote: »

The officials should not have picked the flag up after announcing the penalty. That was wrong. But picking up the flag did not cement the victory for Dallas.
I think the officials owe an apology to not only Detroit, but to Dallas. They had a stellar year and won their way into the playoffs legitimately. Now their playoff win is tainted because these idiots can't make up their minds on a PI call. But I really don't think it's fair to put any blame on Dallas. And as amusing as it is to picture Jerry Jones paying them off, that's not what happened. There's no conspiracy. There was no fix. It was a penalty that was handled poorly by the officials and they are the only ones to blame - no one else. Lions fans and NFL fans in general have a right to be pissed - but not at the Cowboys. Hate them for all your other reasons all you want to, but they aren't responsible for poor officiating.

It will all be forgotten when GB wins this weekend. Detroit would not have beaten GB in GB either. The only reason I feel for Detroit is because they have only won 1 playoff game in the modern era (since Super Bowl I)
1 fucking game! lol. Have to feel badly for that level of ineptitude.

The Juggler

The Waiting Trophy Man wrote: »

The officials should not have picked the flag up after announcing the penalty. That was wrong. But picking up the flag did not cement the victory for Dallas. .

Check the article I posted about how it affected Detroit's win percentage. The blown call/no flag on Dez is essentially the equivalent to game ending interception.


It is what it is--this weekend of games coming up is one of the best sports weekends of the year. Can't wait

The Waiting Trophy Man

The Juggler wrote: »

The Waiting Trophy Man wrote: »

The officials should not have picked the flag up after announcing the penalty. That was wrong. But picking up the flag did not cement the victory for Dallas. .

Check the article I posted about how it affected Detroit's win percentage. The blown call/no flag on Dez is essentially the equivalent to game ending interception.


It is what it is--this weekend of games coming up is one of the best sports weekends of the year. Can't wait

I did check it out and it was interesting, but hardly concrete proof. Anything could have happened. They could have turned the ball over; Stafford could have taken big sack taking them out of field goal range and/or missed long field goal; Lions could have gotten penalties that moved them back, etc.
Even bigger than the reversed call was the fact that the Lions decided to punt it on 4th and 1 and the ball sailed a whopping 10 feet. Why aren't we talking about that? Lions could have easily converted and kept the drive alive.

But yes, I'm looking forward to the games, as well. I hate that it's only Tuesday!

The Juggler

The Waiting Trophy Man wrote: »

The Juggler wrote: »

The Waiting Trophy Man wrote: »

The officials should not have picked the flag up after announcing the penalty. That was wrong. But picking up the flag did not cement the victory for Dallas. .

Check the article I posted about how it affected Detroit's win percentage. The blown call/no flag on Dez is essentially the equivalent to game ending interception.


It is what it is--this weekend of games coming up is one of the best sports weekends of the year. Can't wait

I did check it out and it was interesting, but hardly concrete proof. Anything could have happened. They could have turned the ball over; Stafford could have taken big sack taking them out of field goal range and/or missed long field goal; Lions could have gotten penalties that moved them back, etc.
Even bigger than the reversed call was the fact that the Lions decided to punt it on 4th and 1 and the ball sailed a whopping 10 feet. Why aren't we talking about that? Lions could have easily converted and kept the drive alive.

But yes, I'm looking forward to the games, as well. I hate that it's only Tuesday!

Dude. Come on. There is no such thing as concrete proof that any team will win until the clock strikes zero. But the Lions should have had a first down in the redzone, up 3 with like 7 minutes to go with an extremely high opportunity to end the game. That is the bottom line.

The Waiting Trophy Man

Well bad things can happen in the redzone, too. And look what they did on their final drive - they fumbled twice. They had an extremely high opportunity to end/win the game with 2:32 left.

The Juggler

The Waiting Trophy Man wrote: »

Well bad things can happen in the redzone, too. And look what they did on their final drive - they fumbled twice. They had an extremely high opportunity to end/win the game with 2:32 left.

No they didn't. They needed to drive 80 yards for a game winning touchdown. The odds are not in your favor in that scenario at all. It is a difficult thing to do.

Of course bad things can happen in the redzone. That's why there is no concrete proof, like you said earlier. But the odds of them winning in that situation would have been extremely high.