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  • g under pg under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,199
    norm wrote:
    g under p wrote:
    Goodell has lost his fucking mind. An entire year????

    To make sure this will never happen ever again in the NFL.

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    yep...had to make an example of him

    I'm fine with that I expected nothing less

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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 49,032
    norm wrote:
    i think it has more to do with all of the lawsuits they have been receiving and will continue to get from ex players complaining about player safety and stuff.

    exactly...if players in the future sue, the nfl can show that they were proactive in trying to quell the number of head injuries

    this fact will surely get lost in everyone's reaction but this is absolutely the reason.
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  • g under pg under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,199
    JK_Livin wrote:
    Sanchez has to be pissed. Just what every pocket passer wants, to be lined up outside for a stupid wildcat play.

    Pissed about what Sanchez has to work on his game and get better.Besides that the J E T S are losing their SWAGGER!

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  • Newch91Newch91 Posts: 17,560
    two second round draft picks
    500k
    coach full year
    former def coordinator (now with rams) indefinitely with review after year
    GM 8 games
    Assistant coach 6 games...

    Unreal
    This might be the punishment of the century.
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  • dougfloyddougfloyd Fishers, IN Posts: 2,583
    So I guess that answers the question on if Goodell thought this was worse than spygate.
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  • DewieCoxDewieCox Posts: 11,429
    rick1zoo2 wrote:
    so I am wondering if that is it for Payton with the Saints. They will have to have someone there in the interim, so what are the chances he won't be back ever.

    Has to be, right?

    Can't mean good things for Brees either. Think he'll request a trade? It'll add nicely to the off season of craziness.


    I think the punishment is way out of whack though, especially compared to spygate.
  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,147
    It was pretty dumb that they continued the bounty system while knowing they were under investigation.

    Too bad they didn't just have a bunch of VHS tapes to burn and sweep under the rug.
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  • RW81233RW81233 Posts: 2,393
    yeah pats got off easy compared to this. what's weird is that the saints weren't breaking the rules of the actual game (maybe with personal fouls), whereas the pats were operating outside the rules. weird.
  • rick1zoo2rick1zoo2 between a rock and a dumb place Posts: 12,632
    I am sure the bounty system exists throughout the league and this is the example setting punishment to get everyone to think twice about it. they had to be harsh. way too much liability
  • RW81233RW81233 Posts: 2,393
    it's a MAJOR CYA by the NFL with their pending concussion lawsuits...they don't really give an eff about this otherwise.
  • g under pg under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,199
    dougfloyd wrote:
    So I guess that answers the question on if Goodell thought this was worse than spygate.

    Far worse when you are speaking of injurying another player or players. It's a contact sport but not to the point of injurying someone and possibly ending their career. Besides they were warned and investigated previously.

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  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,147
    I imagine a lot of NHL GM's are going to have serious conversations about "Money on the Board".
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  • RW81233RW81233 Posts: 2,393
    Jason P wrote:
    I imagine a lot of NHL GM's are going to have serious conversations about "Money on the Board".
    not until they get sued for concussions...they don't care about the athletes until they have to pretend to.
  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,147
    Williams had better start making a college search. His NFL days are over.

    And considering Manning's neck injury was traced by Tony Dungy to a game against the Redskins when Williams was the D-coordinator, good riddance.
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  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,147
    RW81233 wrote:
    Jason P wrote:
    I imagine a lot of NHL GM's are going to have serious conversations about "Money on the Board".
    not until they get sued for concussions...they don't care about the athletes until they have to pretend to.
    It wouldn't be limited to concussions. For instance, Manning could have sued the Redskins and Williams for $80M left on his Colt's contract if there was evidence a player was paid for the hit and he could never play again.
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  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,147
    Is there enough evidence for a "Curse of the Super Bowl Host City"?

    Dallas 2010: 6 - 10 while Romo get injured and it's apparent 2009 was his career apex.

    Indy 2011: 2 - 14 and the end of the Manning era (i just threw up in my mouth)

    Saints 2012: ??? and perhaps a Brees hold-out and the end of Payton's coaching career???
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  • JK_LivinJK_Livin South Jersey Posts: 7,365
    Jason P wrote:
    Williams had better start making a college search. His NFL days are over.

    And considering Manning's neck injury was traced by Tony Dungy to a game against the Redskins when Williams was the D-coordinator, good riddance.

    Fletcher was with Williams for years in Buffalo and Wash. He is always flying in late on tackles hitting the ball carrier in the back of the head as he hits the ground. His timing is impeccable. He may be a good player but he's dirty as well.
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  • WobbieWobbie Posts: 30,315
    I think goodell may have added a little something extra for payton's lying about this.

    "oh, that email? I never read it" :roll:
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  • rick1zoo2rick1zoo2 between a rock and a dumb place Posts: 12,632
    I think this is interesting:

    "The NFL also required all other teams to confirm to the league that they did not have bounty programs in place."


    so it's basically putting the onus on all the other teams to look into it and fess up if they also had bounty programs. Assuming that other teams have had bounty programs, Will any of them take a chance and say no? Come clean and hope for leniency?

    I think we will hear more about other teams having bounty programs.

    (sounds like me dealing with my kids - tell me what happened and deal with the consequences, but lie to me and that is a whole other realm of punishment)
  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,147
    rick1zoo2 wrote:
    I think we will hear more about other teams having bounty programs.
    The Titans have been accused of having a similar bounty program. I wonder if that played into Manning's decision?
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  • RW81233RW81233 Posts: 2,393
    Jason P wrote:
    Is there enough evidence for a "Curse of the Super Bowl Host City"?

    Dallas 2010: 6 - 10 while Romo get injured and it's apparent 2009 was his career apex.

    Indy 2011: 2 - 14 and the end of the Manning era (i just threw up in my mouth)

    Saints 2012: ??? and perhaps a Brees hold-out and the end of Payton's coaching career???
    On your first response, exactly. The NFL is fucked if this ever got bigger, and it is bigger just other teams weren't so stupid. I'm not sure you're right on Romo's apex though. He was pretty awesome last year, 26 and 9, beat the 49ers with broken ribs, almost beat the Giants with a broken hand until Eli threw up a classic Madden run around and hit the box button that got completed, and was within a few missed field goals of a playoff run. Still the Super Bowl curse could just be that no home team ever makes it - which is 46 or whatever and 0.
  • normnorm Posts: 31,146
    edited March 2012
    I am speechless. Sean Payton is a great man, coach, and mentor. The best there is. I need to hear an explanation for this punishment
    https://twitter.com/#!/drewbrees/status ... 1781447680
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  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,875
    Maybe Greg Williams can use some of his time off to do something about those tits he has.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/22/sport ... am.html?hp
  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,917
    norm wrote:
    I am speechless. Sean Payton is a great man, coach, and mentor. The best there is. I need to hear an explanation for this punishment
    https://twitter.com/#!/drewbrees/status ... 1781447680

    They were found to have lied to the league throughout the investigation process.
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  • normnorm Posts: 31,146
    norm wrote:
    I am speechless. Sean Payton is a great man, coach, and mentor. The best there is. I need to hear an explanation for this punishment
    https://twitter.com/#!/drewbrees/status ... 1781447680

    They were found to have lied to the league throughout the investigation process.

    that was drew brees
  • Monster RainMonster Rain Posts: 1,415
    norm wrote:
    I am speechless. Sean Payton is a great man, coach, and mentor. The best there is. I need to hear an explanation for this punishment
    https://twitter.com/#!/drewbrees/status ... 1781447680

    Does Brees really need an explanation as to why Goodell suspended that "great man" who looked the other way while his Defensive Coordinator paid his players to knock opposing players out of games? I'd bet that he'd see things differently if he was one of the players being targeted.
  • dougfloyddougfloyd Fishers, IN Posts: 2,583
    Filed to ESPN (1): Denver and Jets have encountered hangup in language in Tim Tebow's contract that could nullify trade
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  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,917
    norm wrote:
    norm wrote:
    I am speechless. Sean Payton is a great man, coach, and mentor. The best there is. I need to hear an explanation for this punishment
    https://twitter.com/#!/drewbrees/status ... 1781447680

    They were found to have lied to the league throughout the investigation process.

    that was drew brees

    Oh...well then he should know that's the reason for the huge suspension
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  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,917
    Bounties were put on Favre, Cam Newton, Aaron Rodgers, and Kurt Warner. Some by people outside the organization. $5,000 was offered to injure Rodgers in the first game of the 2011 season.
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  • normnorm Posts: 31,146
    dougfloyd wrote:
    Filed to ESPN (1): Denver and Jets have encountered hangup in language in Tim Tebow's contract that could nullify trade
    Tim Tebow may not become a New York Jet after all.

    ESPN’s Adam Schefter reports that the Broncos and the Jets have encountered a hangup in the language in Tebow’s contract that could nullify the trade. Schefter cites a Broncos source as saying the hangup could keep the trade from happening.

    The contractual issue apparently arises from a clause in Tebow’s contract that could require the Jets to pay up to $5 million to the Broncos. The Jets may refuse to do that.

    If this turns out to be a serious enough problem that the Tebow-to-Jets deal cannot be completed, then Tebow would go back on the market and the Broncos would try to find a new trading partner.

    According to Schefter, the Rams may be that new trading partner, and Tebow could be shipped to St. Louis if the deal with the Jets falls apart. It’s not clear whether Tebow would prefer the Rams or Jets, or if he’ll have any say in the matter at all.

    At the moment, the deal is Tebow and the Broncos’ seventh-round pick for the Jets’ fourth- and sixth-round picks. We don’t yet know what the Rams would be willing to give up for Tebow.
    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/20 ... m/related/

    :lol::lol: this just gets better and better
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