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  • Q: What does it take to be a beast? I hear that a lot lately. Are you a beast if you make lots of tackles/sacks? Or can you be a beast if you score lots of TDs? Can a QB be a beast?
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  • SatansFutonSatansFuton Posts: 5,399
    Q: What does it take to be a beast? I hear that a lot lately. Are you a beast if you make lots of tackles/sacks? Or can you be a beast if you score lots of TDs? Can a QB be a beast?

    Well, you can use the term loosely to just mean "on fire" or whatever. But "beast" usually means your doing it very physically. At least that's what I thought. And since whatever I think IS correct, that's what we're going with.
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  • Newch91Newch91 Posts: 17,560
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  • Q: What does it take to be a beast? I hear that a lot lately. Are you a beast if you make lots of tackles/sacks? Or can you be a beast if you score lots of TDs? Can a QB be a beast?

    Well, you can use the term loosely to just mean "on fire" or whatever. But "beast" usually means your doing it very physically. At least that's what I thought. And since whatever I think IS correct, that's what we're going with.

    Hmmmm, I wonder who's a bigger beast tonight: McCown or Forte?
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  • Q: What does it take to be a beast? I hear that a lot lately. Are you a beast if you make lots of tackles/sacks? Or can you be a beast if you score lots of TDs? Can a QB be a beast?

    Well, you can use the term loosely to just mean "on fire" or whatever. But "beast" usually means your doing it very physically. At least that's what I thought. And since whatever I think IS correct, that's what we're going with.

    Hmmmm, I wonder who's a bigger beast tonight: McCown or Forte?

    Neither.

    See Satan's post.

    Forte is slick. McCown is very efficient.
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  • SatansFutonSatansFuton Posts: 5,399
    Newch91 wrote:

    I think Tony was just goofing off. He's been known to...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_uXgztQ9tk

    Having said that, if nobody had seen him do it, I have no doubt he wouldn't have let the referees in on his joke.
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  • Newch91 wrote:

    I think Tony was just goofing off. He's been known to...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_uXgztQ9tk

    Having said that, if nobody had seen him do it, I have no doubt he wouldn't have let the referees in on his joke.

    Yeah this was hardly serious. He was just making a point that he felt the ball was placed short of where it should have been. Romo doesn't need to cheat - the guy's a superstar. Maybe even a beast? :o8-)
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  • SatansFutonSatansFuton Posts: 5,399
    Newch91 wrote:

    I think Tony was just goofing off. He's been known to...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_uXgztQ9tk

    Having said that, if nobody had seen him do it, I have no doubt he wouldn't have let the referees in on his joke.

    Yeah this was hardly serious. He was just making a point that he felt the ball was placed short of where it should have been. Romo doesn't need to cheat - the guy's a superstar. Maybe even a beast? :o8-)

    Now that could hardly have been serious :lol:
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  • prismprism Posts: 2,440
    edited November 2013
    JK_Livin wrote:
    prism wrote:
    altho nerve -wracking at least both my teams won in OT today

    Redskins over the Chargers 30 - 24

    Seahawks over Bucs 27 - 24 another ugly one but they came back for the win! 8-1 hell yeah!

    whew! 8-)

    Both my teams? :fp: :?: :nono:


    My thoughts exactly. :fp: :fp:

    :roll:
    yes. I've lived almost exactly 1/2 my life in DC area and the last 1/2 in the 'other Washington' so i'm a fan of both teams...

    if some people don't like it? I don't give a flying fuck :)
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  • Yeah this was hardly serious. He was just making a point that he felt the ball was placed short of where it should have been. Romo doesn't need to cheat - the guy's a superstar. Maybe even a beast? :o8-)

    Now that could hardly have been serious :lol:

    Why, you don't think he's a great player? He's one of the best QB's in the league. I'm sure he's been a beast more than once in his career. He'll give Brees a go this Sunday!
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  • SatansFutonSatansFuton Posts: 5,399

    Yeah this was hardly serious. He was just making a point that he felt the ball was placed short of where it should have been. Romo doesn't need to cheat - the guy's a superstar. Maybe even a beast? :o8-)

    Now that could hardly have been serious :lol:

    Why, you don't think he's a great player? He's one of the best QB's in the league. I'm sure he's been a beast more than once in his career. He'll give Brees a go this Sunday!

    He's OK, not as bad as some make him out to be, but not a "superstar". I wouldn't put him in the Top 5 playing right now, but probably Top 10.
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  • Why, you don't think he's a great player? He's one of the best QB's in the league. I'm sure he's been a beast more than once in his career. He'll give Brees a go this Sunday!

    He's OK, not as bad as some make him out to be, but not a "superstar". I wouldn't put him in the Top 5 playing right now, but probably Top 10.

    Well in my book he is. He's got crazy stats and more than a couple crazy NFL records. Just needs a SB now, but I'm afraid he might have the Marino curse. He's gotta make a serious run this year, though. Can't wait to see this game on Sunday. Could be a sign of hints to come.
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  • SatansFutonSatansFuton Posts: 5,399
    Why, you don't think he's a great player? He's one of the best QB's in the league. I'm sure he's been a beast more than once in his career. He'll give Brees a go this Sunday!

    He's OK, not as bad as some make him out to be, but not a "superstar". I wouldn't put him in the Top 5 playing right now, but probably Top 10.

    Well in my book he is. He's got crazy stats and more than a couple crazy NFL records. Just needs a SB now, but I'm afraid he might have the Marino curse. He's gotta make a serious run this year, though. Can't wait to see this game on Sunday. Could be a sign of hints to come.

    Well that's because you're a Cowboy fan. His stats might impress some people, but they don't net results obviously. What NFL records does Romo have? The only record I can find involving Romo is that against Denver the Cowboys tied the NFL record for most points by a team in a loss.
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  • Well that's because you're a Cowboy fan. His stats might impress some people, but they don't net results obviously. What NFL records does Romo have? The only record I can find involving Romo is that against Denver the Cowboys tied the NFL record for most points by a team in a loss.

    He made me a Cowboys fan. And he has the most passing yards through the first 100 games of any QB in NFL history. And he has the highest passer rating on the opening game of the season of all time.


    He's also broken team records once held by Staubach and Aikman.

    Not a record, but the Cowboys are the highest scoring offence in the NFC. it's gonna be a shoot out in NO.
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  • SatansFutonSatansFuton Posts: 5,399
    Well that's because you're a Cowboy fan. His stats might impress some people, but they don't net results obviously. What NFL records does Romo have? The only record I can find involving Romo is that against Denver the Cowboys tied the NFL record for most points by a team in a loss.

    He made me a Cowboys fan. And he has the most passing yards through the first 100 games of any QB in NFL history. And he has the highest passer rating on the opening game of the season of all time.

    Not a record, but the Cowboys are the highest scoring offence in the NFC. it's gonna be a shoot out in NO.

    Well, those are pretty contrived records in my opinion, more of a storyline for the media a couple of weeks ago. How did he do through 50? How will he do through 200? If you dig deep enough and put enough conditions in, you can probably generate a lot of records for a lot of guys. And do you know who he passed to get to that milestone? Jeff George, so I'm not exactly impressed. And I never give much credence to pure passing yards as a judgement of QB ability, as they don't take YAC into account. How many of Romo's passing yards came from people not being able to take down Witten (an actual beast) or from some of the other great receivers he's had putting on great moves? I don't know if this stat still holds, but a week or two ago Romo ranked 32nd in air yards this season, the rest were coming from YAC. Of course not all YAC is pure receiver talent, sometimes a QB fools a defense or puts the ball in a good spot. But passing stats are created by both QBs AND their receivers. And Romo has had some good ones, and he's needed them because they haven't had much of a run game.

    Which brings up one of Dallas' big problems for a while, no running game. Same for Rodgers, he puts up passing numbers because all they do (until the last couple of games) is throw. Some of the greatest QBs of all time aren't in the running for that 100 game record because they had a more balanced offense than what Green Bay and Dallas run.

    As for the highest scoring offence, that's because they've played 1 more game than the other teams near the top of the list. If you look at points per game they're 4th in the league and 3rd in the NFC behind Chicago and Green Bay. Including that game tonight with two backups. They rank 17th in total offense and 9th in passing offense in the league as well.
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  • Well, those are pretty contrived records in my opinion, more of a storyline for the media a couple of weeks ago. How did he do through 50? How will he do through 200? If you dig deep enough and put enough conditions in, you can probably generate a lot of records for a lot of guys. And do you know who he passed to get to that milestone? Jeff George, so I'm not exactly impressed. And I never give much credence to pure passing yards as a judgement of QB ability, as they don't take YAC into account. How many of Romo's passing yards came from people not being able to take down Witten (an actual beast) or from some of the other great receivers he's had putting on great moves? I don't know if this stat still holds, but a week or two ago Romo ranked 32nd in air yards this season, the rest were coming from YAC. Of course not all YAC is pure receiver talent, sometimes a QB fools a defense or puts the ball in a good spot. But passing stats are created by both QBs AND their receivers. And Romo has had some good ones, and he's needed them because they haven't had much of a run game.

    Which brings up one of Dallas' big problems for a while, no running game. Same for Rodgers, he puts up passing numbers because all they do (until the last couple of games) is throw. Some of the greatest QBs of all time aren't in the running for that 100 game record because they had a more balanced offense than what Green Bay and Dallas run.

    As for the highest scoring offence, that's because they've played 1 more game than the other teams near the top of the list. If you look at points per game they're 4th in the league and 3rd in the NFC behind Chicago and Green Bay. Including that game tonight with two backups. They rank 17th in total offense and 9th in passing offense in the league as well.

    Oh just admit it, you hate Romo. :lol::mrgreen:
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  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,138
    A good backup QB is going to be more of a premium in the future.

    The NFL may need to consider a max playing weight of 280 lbs.
  • Jason P wrote:
    A good backup QB is going to be more of a premium in the future.

    The NFL may need to consider a max playing weight of 280 lbs.

    Remember those awesome 49ers teams of the 80s? When they had 1 OL who weighed 300 pounds, Bubba Paris, and everyone chuckled at how large he was?
    Now, even most college teams that are good have lines filled with 300 pounders. Hell, the QBs can weigh +250 now.
    Crazy how big people have become with steroids, supplements and massive weight training programs.
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  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,138
    Jason P wrote:
    A good backup QB is going to be more of a premium in the future.

    The NFL may need to consider a max playing weight of 280 lbs.

    Remember those awesome 49ers teams of the 80s? When they had 1 OL who weighed 300 pounds, Bubba Paris, and everyone chuckled at how large he was?
    Now, even most college teams that are good have lines filled with 300 pounders. Hell, the QBs can weigh +250 now.
    Crazy how big people have become with steroids, supplements and massive weight training programs.
    Alabama Crimson Tide have 27 players on their roster over 280 lbs, 15 of which weigh over 300 lbs including a dude that weighs 385 lbs!

    :shock:
  • Jason P wrote:
    Jason P wrote:
    A good backup QB is going to be more of a premium in the future.

    The NFL may need to consider a max playing weight of 280 lbs.

    Remember those awesome 49ers teams of the 80s? When they had 1 OL who weighed 300 pounds, Bubba Paris, and everyone chuckled at how large he was?
    Now, even most college teams that are good have lines filled with 300 pounders. Hell, the QBs can weigh +250 now.
    Crazy how big people have become with steroids, supplements and massive weight training programs.
    Alabama Crimson Tide have 27 players on their roster over 280 lbs, 15 of which weigh over 300 lbs including a dude that weighs 385 lbs!

    :shock:

    :lol:
    Granted they are the top of the food chain currently in NCAA but that is indicative of the way things have changed.
    385! Used to be that was the sort of guy who never left the house. Now he is athletic enough to run around on the field and throw people around.
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  • lukin2006lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    I don't know if this stat still holds, but a week or two ago Romo ranked 32nd in air yards this season, the rest were coming from YAC.

    http://www.sportingcharts.com/nfl/stats ... ards/2013/

    According to this chart he's 5th ... you just don't jump to 5th from 32nd in 2 weeks, especially in the last 2 weeks when the O has been struggling. I will be the 1st person to critisize Romo ... but in all honesty the Dallas Cowboy problem have nothing to do with Romo, he's never played behind a solid consistent O-line, never played on a team that in Dallas that prides itself on making as few as mistakes possible, Dallas hasn't had a real good consistent D since the days of Mike Zimmer. Really to be 5-4 at this point with the last rank D, and a D that at time made Christian Ponder look like a hall of famed should be somewhat surprising. Maybe people should start holding other players accountable ... how about some of the players on D, how about the 50 million dollar man Brandon Carr, how about Morris Claiborn. On the D I give Lee an A+, Hatcher an A and a extremely banged up D-line a B, the rest of that D needs to step up.

    Romo is not my favourite player ... but he lead them to a game winning drive against Minnesota and had them up by 10 against Detroit (it's not his fault that the left tackle held, and he doesn't play D and they allowed Detroit to drive 80 in 50 seconds with no timeouts).

    If anybody thought this team was Super Bowl capable they need to shake their head. with this O-lone is Romo might be 1 of the few QB's who can play behind it. This team has so many problems and Romo is the least of their concerns.
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  • SatansFutonSatansFuton Posts: 5,399
    lukin2006 wrote:
    I don't know if this stat still holds, but a week or two ago Romo ranked 32nd in air yards this season, the rest were coming from YAC.

    http://www.sportingcharts.com/nfl/stats ... ards/2013/

    According to this chart he's 5th ... you just don't jump to 5th from 32nd in 2 weeks, especially in the last 2 weeks when the O has been struggling. I will be the 1st person to critisize Romo ... but in all honesty the Dallas Cowboy problem have nothing to do with Romo, he's never played behind a solid consistent O-line, never played on a team that in Dallas that prides itself on making as few as mistakes possible, Dallas hasn't had a real good consistent D since the days of Mike Zimmer. Really to be 5-4 at this point with the last rank D, and a D that at time made Christian Ponder look like a hall of famed should be somewhat surprising. Maybe people should start holding other players accountable ... how about some of the players on D, how about the 50 million dollar man Brandon Carr, how about Morris Claiborn. On the D I give Lee an A+, Hatcher an A and a extremely banged up D-line a B, the rest of that D needs to step up.

    Romo is not my favourite player ... but he lead them to a game winning drive against Minnesota and had them up by 10 against Detroit (it's not his fault that the left tackle held, and he doesn't play D and they allowed Detroit to drive 80 in 50 seconds with no timeouts).

    If anybody thought this team was Super Bowl capable they need to shake their head. with this O-lone is Romo might be 1 of the few QB's who can play behind it. This team has so many problems and Romo is the least of their concerns.

    Well, once again that's just sorted by total yards and not taking into account the fact Dallas hasn't had a bye week. If you sort that same list by % of air yards, he drops to #27 and his average attempt is 3.66 yards. So I'm guessing that's where the stat I heard came from. Sort it by air yards per attemt and he's #21.

    I'm not saying Romo is their problem, I was just talking about why these Romo stats people are always telling me don't do a whole lot for me.

    TheWaitingTrophyMan, I don't hate Romo. I get a kick out of his sense of humor on the field. It's Jones that I hate.
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  • JK_LivinJK_Livin Posts: 7,365
    If Romo threw it to Bryant more, he'd look a lot better. Just throw him the damn ball. :D
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  • SatansFutonSatansFuton Posts: 5,399
    Jason P wrote:
    A good backup QB is going to be more of a premium in the future.

    Tell that to the Packers :lol:

    Last night was the first time I've ever seen Seneca Wallace play, to the best of my knowledge, and I have to think some of his shittiness can be attributed to him just being cold and not getting reps. Because if he were THAT bad all the time, I wouldn't think he'd even have a job in the Arena League. Is that still around? Or maybe he just sucks, either way the Pack should have put a little more thought into what would happen if Rodgers went out. It's not like he's NEVER been injured or anything.

    And credit to Chicago's Defense, they made him look bad also. Looking at their Defensive adjustments after Rodgers went out, I'm thinking they put more thought into what would happen if Wallace had to come in than the Packers did.
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  • Jason P wrote:
    A good backup QB is going to be more of a premium in the future.

    Tell that to the Packers :lol:

    Last night was the first time I've ever seen Seneca Wallace play, to the best of my knowledge, and I have to think some of his shittiness can be attributed to him just being cold and not getting reps. Because if he were THAT bad all the time, I wouldn't think he'd even have a job in the Arena League. Is that still around? Or maybe he just sucks, either way the Pack should have put a little more thought into what would happen if Rodgers went out. It's not like he's NEVER been injured or anything.

    And credit to Chicago's Defense, they made him look bad also. Looking at their Defensive adjustments after Rodgers went out, I'm thinking they put more thought into what would happen if Wallace had to come in than the Packers did.

    He's bad.

    He seemed to have more mobility when he was with the Seahawks, but couldn't elude anyone last night. His accuracy has always been an issue. Make no mistake about it: the Packers will have their challenges with this guy running the show.
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  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,138
    DJ Gallo on ESPN.com (who is funny which is why ESPN hides his columns) wrote an article where he ranked backup QB's on four tiers:

    Tier 1: This guy will make us better!

    Tier 2: We might not be any worse with this guy!

    Tier 3: We're pretty much doomed!

    Tier 4: We're completely doomed! Run for your lives! The world is ending!

    Seneca Wallace was in Tier 4: Remember when Aaron Rodgers was Brett Favre's backup? Green Bay does not currently have a similar luxury.

    http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/story/_/id/9857341/nfl-hangover-week-7
  • JK_LivinJK_Livin Posts: 7,365
    Shaun Hill -- Hill isn't going to win the Lions a Super Bowl. But could he throw the ball up in the air in the general vicinity of Calvin Johnson 10 times a game? Yes. Yes, he could.

    :lol::lol::lol:
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  • JK_Livin wrote:
    If Romo threw it to Bryant more, he'd look a lot better. Just throw him the damn ball. :D

    I expect him to this Sunday against the Saints. Romo is gonna turn Dez into a beast :mrgreen:
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  • JK_Livin wrote:
    Shaun Hill -- Hill isn't going to win the Lions a Super Bowl. But could he throw the ball up in the air in the general vicinity of Calvin Johnson 10 times a game? Yes. Yes, he could.

    :lol::lol::lol:


    Yep…it isn't that hard when you have a WR like Megatron. I still don't know if Stafford is that good….I wonder how he would be without Johnson.
  • lukin2006lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    JK_Livin wrote:
    If Romo threw it to Bryant more, he'd look a lot better. Just throw him the damn ball. :D

    I agree ...
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