Joe Paterno just died
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according to CNN Joe Paterno just died
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Yeah, his good FAR outweighed the bs that just happened recently. Jopa did soooo much good for the university and had a huge positive impact on many adults and students lives. Sad
I'm going back and forth with my FB friends about this and I am disgusted by the celebration of this man. They wouldn't be saying the same thing if it happened to them or someone they know.
Have some respect. This guy didn't rape or molest any kids. His good FAR outweighed the one blemish on his record, believe me. Its sad that someone like jopa can give more to an institution than most people but d bags wil use anything to tarnish someone's great legacy.
Yeah, he stood over Sandusky and LET him rape boys, right?! :roll:
This isn't the day to falsely accuse a coach of rape when he had nothing to do with that act.
There is no way you can't look at Paterno as a legend and a huge difference maker in many young adults lives.
He had no problem interfering to get his players out of trouble, he could have/should have had an investigation started immediately. He didn't.
You hear a child is being assaulted, call the fucking cops.
The point is that this is not the day for people to bash a legend, that's all.
However I don't think (due to his action) he was a man to be honoured.
Agreed.
Well I do and so do many others on this day. Can you respect others that are close to the psu community?
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Neil deGrasse Tyson
Why not (V) (°,,,,°) (V) ?
However, those who honor honesty and ethics, well, they're not honoring Paterno.
I will never understand how much of a religion sports is to people over how we should treat each other, especially children.
I guess you don't know who Joe Paterno is, do you? I'm not going to get into a back and forth but please do some research and you will see what makes Joe Paterno a great man. It's more than sports. It's all the good things he has done for so many over the years. This far outweighs the bad(even tho he fulfilled his responsibility by reportung the abuse).
Sorry, no it doesn't. He could have gone to the police, but chose not to. Going to the school authorities does not make him a hero.
Great men must stick together. Their greatness unites them—especially if, like Mike Krzyzewski and Joe Paterno, they've recorded a 90-minute nationally broadcast television special celebrating their mutual greatness.
The hour and a half long TV special is essential to the bond between great men and their greatness; it is the adult version of being blood brothers. Krzyzewski and Paterno made that pact this past June, in an ESPN segment with Rece Davis called Difference Makers: Life Lessons with Paterno and Krzyzewski. They sat in easy chairs in Penn State's Eisenhower Auditorium and discussed their greatness together. Sometimes, Davis discussed their greatness for them; other times, emotional montages and taped interviews with members of their families discussed it for them. At the end, people in the audience had the opportunity to stand and ask further questions about what made these two men so great.
USA Today reported at the time that the program focused on "the similarities between Krzyzewski and Paterno, and how the coaches have built clean, model programs in their respective sports." We reported at the time that Paterno had said "other times you gotta stroke 'em," completely out of context.
The general point of the show was that the men were great. It also, according to ESPN's release at the time, intended to explore "ethics, integrity, friendship, legacy, pressures and issues associated with intercollegiate athletics, working with student-athletes, and more." The ethics, issues, and pressures under discussion did not include those surrounding child rape.
But that's something we can't ignore today, and neither can Krzyzewski. So on Monday he was asked about Paterno's dismissal and the scandal unfolding in State College. He responded:
"Well, I think, unless you're there, it's tough to comment about everything,'' Krzyzewski said. "I just feel badly for him and whatever he is responsible for, it'll come out and hopefully it'll come out from him.
"I think one thing you have to understand is that Coach Paterno's 84 years old. I'm not saying that for an excuse or whatever. The cultures that he's been involved in both football-wise and socially, have been immense changes and how social issues are handled in those generations are quite different.
"But as we judge, remember that there's just a lot there. There's a lot, lot there. I think he's a great man and it's a horrific situation."
To boil it down: When great men get old, the culture around them changes, and that can create horrific situations for the great men in question. Old great men are not as responsible for their "ethics and integrity" as younger great men. So take heed, young great men of the world, of these "horrific situations," as you age. They tend to threaten greatness.
"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing."
Here lies Joe Paterno, a manifestation of the pitiful American culture of idolizing sports heroes as though they are gods. A man that could do no wrong, until the truth was reveled and he was found wanting. Guilty, of allowing young men to be sexually brutalized. On behalf of the abused, good riddance Joe.
How so? This is bullshit. People are so willing to hold to there to a standard they aren't willing to live up to themselves. Fuck the media, they killed joepa.
Here we go, man this place is great to rememberwh people suck. Get up on that high horse.
It's easy to cast stones from Mt. Pious, but how often do we each look the other way when a friend or loved one commits crimes? Ever had a drunk friend leave a party and drive home without stopping him or calling the cops? Every had a relative disciplined their kids or spouse in a way that would technically fall under abuse and say nothing? Ever hear a story second-hand and not being able to believe it ... even too scared to pursue it and lock it away in the back of your mind?
We wanted blood. Paterno is the face of the university, so he is who we went after. I'd say 70% of us are reveling in his death. To me, it's the ultimate Greek tragedy. I feel no sorrow nor happiness in his passing, but dismay in how one bad decision can ultimately offset a lifetime of accomplishment.
I guess if Joe Pa was truly a humanitarian educator he'd like us to learn from his death...learn to be involved with your school or place of employment and the people therein (as in his connection to PSU, its library, and its community), learn not to be silent when you see/hear of something morally and/or ethically reprehensible (as in when a subservient worker comes to you and tells you that he saw your friend rape a child or something to that effect), and learn to be respectful of newer ways of thinking and being as you grow old (as in not supporting co-workers stunted stance(s) against homosexuals).
http://www.edgeofsports.com/2012-01-22-687/index.html
Joe Paterno's most fervent supporters always described "JoePa" as more of an educator than a football coach. The Brown University graduate with the English Literature major, it was said, always wanted to make people around him think and learn. Now, following his passing at the age of 85, the all-time winningest coach in Division 1 college football history has given us another puzzle to ponder: when assessing a legacy, how much should one scandal be weighed alongside decades of service? Should a single moral failure, no matter how vast, be enough to actually undo the decades of good works that preceded it? The lives touched? The scholarships funded? The community constructed?
In Paterno's case, he became victim of his own nurtured legend. He was felled by our perception of who he was, which we all believed would be a predictor of his actions when faced with difficult choices. This was more than a coach. This was a campus Sun King who never complained about the feel of the crown. The statues of Paterno on the Happy Valley campus, the academic courses that bear his name, even the Peachy Paterno ice cream for sale at the campus creamery, elevated Paterno beyond tangible comprehension.
Yet the legend wasn't built just around wins or championships. The reverence many Penn State alums hold for the man was less about unbeaten seasons, the record 36 bowl appearances, or showers of confetti. It was about a standard of morality and ethics that became inseparable from the Nittany Lion brand. As writer Aurin Squire wrote, "When Penn State won the NCAA championship in 1987, it was seen as a victory for the Constitution, flag pins, and whole milk."
This is what made last fall's grand jury report accusing revered longtime assistant coach Jerry Sandusky of being a serial child rapist so devastating to Paterno's entire legacy. JoePa, upon hearing from grad assistant Mike McQueary that he witnessed Sandusky committing statutory rape in the showers, did everything required of him by law. He informed those above him, telling the head of campus police and the School President, both of whom are now out of work and under indictment. That was the minimum he had to do and the minimum is what he did. But according to our conception of who this man was supposed to be, there was no authority above Joe Paterno. There was instead an expectation that this man of integrity would without hesitation do far more than just fulfill his minimum legal requirements. Is that fair? When it's your statue on campus and when the buildings bear your name, most would say hell yes.
When it was further demonstrated that Sandusky continued to be a presence on campus, in the locker room and even on Joe Paterno’s sideline with young children by his side, damning questions rose to a din: how could JoePa have been content with silence, given the possibility that children continued to be at risk? Did Joe Paterno, and the campus leadership, care more about their brand than anything that resembled human morality? Was a football program that had become the economic, social, and cultural center of an entire region, more important than all other concerns? Had abused children become, in the view of Penn State's leadership, an unfortunate collateral damage necessary to keeping the cash registers ringing? The conclusions most people drew were not kind.
In the end, after decades of service, Penn State fired Paterno with a cold 10pm phone call, causing a low frequency campus riot. Since then, Penn State's leadership has gone out of their way to protect "The Nittany Lion brand" (their words.) Joe Paterno was in the end far less important than what Joe Paterno had built. In the end, it was just business.
Before his death, Paterno gave one last interview with the Washington Post's Sally Jenkins. Paterno defended himself by saying he was confused because he'd "never heard of rape and a man." For a man who always took pride in his own academic worldiness and erudition apart from football, this, to be kind, strained credulity. Paterno in his last days was sounding like yet another fallible person in power, corrupted by their deification. We've seen this character throughout American history. It was thought that Paterno had more character than to be just another character.
Let Paterno's last teachable moment be this: if your football coach is the highest paid, most revered person on your campus, you have a problem. If your school wins multiple championships, and a booster drops money to build a statue of the coach, tear it the hell down. And if you think children are being raped, the minimum just isn't good enough, no matter whether or not you wear a crown.
Sandusky was still allowed on the university campus years after this is all reported. He was also in the presidential box for the game that made Joe the winningest coach in history. How could they look at Sandusky for all those years after what was reported?