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well, at least pee wee fucking reese and phil fucking rizzuto are in :roll:
If I had known then what I know now...
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ABsolute joke. Legislating morality. Joke joke joke. Was watching some round table discussion last night and it sickens me to hear some of the writers say things like "I think he's a HOFer just not a first ballot guy". So now there's some sort of caste system you want to establish with HOF'ers? Joke. :thumbdown:
ABsolute joke. Legislating morality. Joke joke joke. Was watching some round table discussion last night and it sickens me to hear some of the writers say things like "I think he's a HOFer just not a first ballot guy". So now there's some sort of caste system you want to establish with HOF'ers? Joke. :thumbdown:
ABsolute joke. Legislating morality. Joke joke joke. Was watching some round table discussion last night and it sickens me to hear some of the writers say things like "I think he's a HOFer just not a first ballot guy". So now there's some sort of caste system you want to establish with HOF'ers? Joke. :thumbdown:
Holy shit, we agree completely
hell has frozen over plus pigs can fly.
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can do. I don't go and say,
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ABsolute joke. Legislating morality. Joke joke joke. Was watching some round table discussion last night and it sickens me to hear some of the writers say things like "I think he's a HOFer just not a first ballot guy". So now there's some sort of caste system you want to establish with HOF'ers? Joke. :thumbdown:
ABsolute joke. Legislating morality. Joke joke joke. Was watching some round table discussion last night and it sickens me to hear some of the writers say things like "I think he's a HOFer just not a first ballot guy". So now there's some sort of caste system you want to establish with HOF'ers? Joke. :thumbdown:
Holy shit, we agree completely
...and the Yankees rely on the HR too much.
Ahhhhhhh....there you went and did it. I thought we were about to have a moment
ABsolute joke. Legislating morality. Joke joke joke. Was watching some round table discussion last night and it sickens me to hear some of the writers say things like "I think he's a HOFer just not a first ballot guy". So now there's some sort of caste system you want to establish with HOF'ers? Joke. :thumbdown:
I'm not sure which one fries my ass more. Bonds, Clemens, or Piazza. Even...even...if the writer's want to make some "stand" against PED's fine. I don't agree with it but I'm not in a position to do anything about it. But to not elect Piazza apparently for "suspected" use...that can be the only reason he's not elected because his stats are more than Hall worthy...is straight up bullshit.
I'm not sure which one fries my ass more. Bonds, Clemens, or Piazza. Even...even...if the writer's want to make some "stand" against PED's fine. I don't agree with it but I'm not in a position to do anything about it. But to not elect Piazza apparently for "suspected" use...that can be the only reason he's not elected because his stats are more than Hall worthy...is straight up bullshit.
Has to be Piazza. One of the best offensive catchers ever not in because he is suspected. So fucking annoying. Who the hell are these guys to make that determination
As much as i hate him Clemens should be in, he never got caught. Even went to trial vs congress and was found not guilty. Obviously he is, but if you cant prove it how can you punish him?
no one can tell me bonds and clemens weren't hall of famers before steroids...and since practically everyone was doing it, there's no reason to not induct them
I'm not sure which one fries my ass more. Bonds, Clemens, or Piazza. Even...even...if the writer's want to make some "stand" against PED's fine. I don't agree with it but I'm not in a position to do anything about it. But to not elect Piazza apparently for "suspected" use...that can be the only reason he's not elected because his stats are more than Hall worthy...is straight up bullshit.
I wish Piazza would get in too. I just googled his stats and was reminded how awesome he was!
on a side note, I wonder if he knows that when you google his name, the second auto fill-in thing is "Mike Piazza gay"? That sucks, but I doubt he cares, I think I recall that his wife is smoking hot.
i must be in the minority ... but fuck all these guys ...
sure, steroids weren't illegal in mlb and a bunch of guys were taking them but steroids were and always were illegal without a prescription ... the thing that irks me most about these guys is that when it came time to come clean ... all these guys to a T pleaded the fifth ... and lied ... none of these guys had the integrity to own up to what they did ... just like lance armstrong ...
so ... all i can say to them is ... oh well ... these are the consequences of your decisions ...
i must be in the minority ... but fuck all these guys ...
sure, steroids weren't illegal in mlb and a bunch of guys were taking them but steroids were and always were illegal without a prescription ... the thing that irks me most about these guys is that when it came time to come clean ... all these guys to a T pleaded the fifth ... and lied ... none of these guys had the integrity to own up to what they did ... just like lance armstrong ...
so ... all i can say to them is ... oh well ... these are the consequences of your decisions ...
As much as i hate him Clemens should be in, he never got caught. Even went to trial vs congress and was found not guilty. Obviously he is, but if you cant prove it how can you punish him?
He beat "Our Elected Leaders" not once, but twice.
If I was him, I would have done the Triple H "Suck It!" pose on the steps of Capital Hill after the 2nd win.
I'm not sure which one fries my ass more. Bonds, Clemens, or Piazza. Even...even...if the writer's want to make some "stand" against PED's fine. I don't agree with it but I'm not in a position to do anything about it. But to not elect Piazza apparently for "suspected" use...that can be the only reason he's not elected because his stats are more than Hall worthy...is straight up bullshit.
Has to be Piazza. One of the best offensive catchers ever not in because he is suspected. So fucking annoying. Who the hell are these guys to make that determination
He's actual the argument why you have to let them all in. You can't exclude guys because you know, yet include guys because you aren't sure or just suspect. That's a sure way to wind up 10 years from now having elected a guy that becomes a known (not saying Piazza is THAT guy) after the fact. Then what do you do (and BTW, there are apparently very good sources that have not been named that says there already is steroid users in).
Let them in. Provide the history and let folks decide. It's a museum. If you want to vote against someone b/c they wouldn't have been in without it, fine. But, going to the HoF without:
The all time HR hitter
The all time Cy Young winner
The all time hits leader
So on and so forth makes no sense.
And, how Biggio did not get in is beyond me. Stupid moralists that sent in blank ballots are idiots.
Sorry. The world doesn't work the way you tell it to.
I'm not sure which one fries my ass more. Bonds, Clemens, or Piazza. Even...even...if the writer's want to make some "stand" against PED's fine. I don't agree with it but I'm not in a position to do anything about it. But to not elect Piazza apparently for "suspected" use...that can be the only reason he's not elected because his stats are more than Hall worthy...is straight up bullshit.
Has to be Piazza. One of the best offensive catchers ever not in because he is suspected. So fucking annoying. Who the hell are these guys to make that determination
He's actual the argument why you have to let them all in. You can't exclude guys because you know, yet include guys because you aren't sure or just suspect. That's a sure way to wind up 10 years from now having elected a guy that becomes a known (not saying Piazza is THAT guy) after the fact. Then what do you do (and BTW, there are apparently very good sources that have not been named that says there already is steroid users in).
Let them in. Provide the history and let folks decide. It's a museum. If you want to vote against someone b/c they wouldn't have been in without it, fine. But, going to the HoF without:
The all time HR hitter
The all time Cy Young winner
The all time hits leader
So on and so forth makes no sense.
And, how Biggio did not get in is beyond me. Stupid moralists that sent in blank ballots are idiots.
Completely agree with everything.
And yeah, Tom Boswell said he has seen a current Hall Of Famer take steroids
And yeah, Tom Boswell said he has seen a current Hall Of Famer take steroids
The dad from Happy Days? I wonder who he's been hanging around with...I don't know...Bob Lemon maybe?
Oh wait...that's Tom Bosley.
Carry on...
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Yeah, a lot of people think steroids somehow just popped up in baseball one day and the current crop were somehow the first players experimenting with them. It really is just a witch hunt.
i must be in the minority ... but fuck all these guys ...
sure, steroids weren't illegal in mlb and a bunch of guys were taking them but steroids were and always were illegal without a prescription ... the thing that irks me most about these guys is that when it came time to come clean ... all these guys to a T pleaded the fifth ... and lied ... none of these guys had the integrity to own up to what they did ... just like lance armstrong ...
so ... all i can say to them is ... oh well ... these are the consequences of your decisions ...
that's fine but
a) just about everyone, in every walk of life, is looking for an edge. lawyers and politicians (not the most lovable bunch ) "cheat" every fucking day.
b) as unfair as it might be to label someone (piazza) a user, it's just as unfair to assume someone clean (biggio, pujols, griffey, etc)
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i'm curious what bonds will say :corn:
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I don't think he'll say anything...
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strawberry was a stud too.
Holy shit, we agree completely
hell has frozen over plus pigs can fly.
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"I play good, hard-nosed basketball.
Things happen in the game. Nothing you
can do. I don't go and say,
"I'm gonna beat this guy up."
...and the Yankees rely on the HR too much.
Ahhhhhhh....there you went and did it. I thought we were about to have a moment
Has to be Piazza. One of the best offensive catchers ever not in because he is suspected. So fucking annoying. Who the hell are these guys to make that determination
I wish Piazza would get in too. I just googled his stats and was reminded how awesome he was!
on a side note, I wonder if he knows that when you google his name, the second auto fill-in thing is "Mike Piazza gay"? That sucks, but I doubt he cares, I think I recall that his wife is smoking hot.
sure, steroids weren't illegal in mlb and a bunch of guys were taking them but steroids were and always were illegal without a prescription ... the thing that irks me most about these guys is that when it came time to come clean ... all these guys to a T pleaded the fifth ... and lied ... none of these guys had the integrity to own up to what they did ... just like lance armstrong ...
so ... all i can say to them is ... oh well ... these are the consequences of your decisions ...
I certainly agree with you.
If I was him, I would have done the Triple H "Suck It!" pose on the steps of Capital Hill after the 2nd win.
He's actual the argument why you have to let them all in. You can't exclude guys because you know, yet include guys because you aren't sure or just suspect. That's a sure way to wind up 10 years from now having elected a guy that becomes a known (not saying Piazza is THAT guy) after the fact. Then what do you do (and BTW, there are apparently very good sources that have not been named that says there already is steroid users in).
Let them in. Provide the history and let folks decide. It's a museum. If you want to vote against someone b/c they wouldn't have been in without it, fine. But, going to the HoF without:
The all time HR hitter
The all time Cy Young winner
The all time hits leader
So on and so forth makes no sense.
And, how Biggio did not get in is beyond me. Stupid moralists that sent in blank ballots are idiots.
Completely agree with everything.
And yeah, Tom Boswell said he has seen a current Hall Of Famer take steroids
The dad from Happy Days? I wonder who he's been hanging around with...I don't know...Bob Lemon maybe?
Oh wait...that's Tom Bosley.
Carry on...
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that's fine but
a) just about everyone, in every walk of life, is looking for an edge. lawyers and politicians (not the most lovable bunch
b) as unfair as it might be to label someone (piazza) a user, it's just as unfair to assume someone clean (biggio, pujols, griffey, etc)
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