Self defense. Woman shoots and kills intruder. 911 audio

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  • pandora
    pandora Posts: 21,855
    usamamasan1 wrote:
    WOOT!
    its easy to spot a hero they are not afraid
  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    catefrances wrote:
    keeponrockin wrote:
    catefrances wrote:
    oh we had one of those suicide by cop scenarios in our suburb not that long ago. the young guy was known to us and fortunately the cops talked him down, no one was shot and everyones still alive. hail hail!!
    THank god there were no skilled marksman in the area...

    we dont have guns. the australian govt took them off us after martin bryant killed 35 people down in tasmania back in 1996.
    ...
    Well... I do not agree with that. Our Constitution grants us rights.
    Again, i don't mind people choosing to arm themselves in home defense.
    I don't think that just anyone should own a gun... and I don't think anyone who owns a gun should be allowed to carry it where ever they want... whenever they want.
    The reason WHY I feel this way... there are a lot of unstable fucks out there. i don't want these unstable fucks out there on the streets with loaded guns.
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  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    Cosmo wrote:
    catefrances wrote:
    we dont have guns. the australian govt took them off us after martin bryant killed 35 people down in tasmania back in 1996.
    ...
    Well... I do not agree with that. Our Constitution grants us rights.
    Again, i don't mind people choosing to arm themselves in home defense.
    I don't think that just anyone should own a gun... and I don't think anyone who owns a gun should be allowed to carry it where ever they want... whenever they want.
    The reason WHY I feel this way... there are a lot of unstable fucks out there. i don't want these unstable fucks out there on the streets with loaded guns.


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  • CAVSTARR313
    CAVSTARR313 Posts: 8,756
    Cosmo wrote:
    ...
    Well... I do not agree with that. Our Constitution grants us rights.
    Again, i don't mind people choosing to arm themselves in home defense.
    I don't think that just anyone should own a gun... and I don't think anyone who owns a gun should be allowed to carry it where ever they want... whenever they want.
    The reason WHY I feel this way... there are a lot of unstable fucks out there. i don't want these unstable fucks out there on the streets with loaded guns.
    The unstable fucks have guns.. they are called criminals

    and what is this cherry picking of our rights?
    the 2nd amendment gives us all the right to arms..
    How would you feel if somebody where able to pick and choose who gets 1st amendment rights?
    "Bob shouldn't be able to say what he feels because he is a crazy fuck in my eyes"
    It is truly a matter of principle.. If someone can restrict or take away our 2nd amendment rights, who is to say that they can't do that with or 1st amendment rights?? or any of them for that matter..
    this is a very dangerous business you speak of..
    None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe that they are free.
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  • satansbed
    satansbed Posts: 2,139
    Cavstarr313 wrote:
    Cosmo wrote:
    ...
    Well... I do not agree with that. Our Constitution grants us rights.
    Again, i don't mind people choosing to arm themselves in home defense.
    I don't think that just anyone should own a gun... and I don't think anyone who owns a gun should be allowed to carry it where ever they want... whenever they want.
    The reason WHY I feel this way... there are a lot of unstable fucks out there. i don't want these unstable fucks out there on the streets with loaded guns.
    The unstable fucks have guns.. they are called criminals

    and what is this cherry picking of our rights?
    the 2nd amendment gives us all the right to arms..
    How would you feel if somebody where able to pick and choose who gets 1st amendment rights?
    "Bob shouldn't be able to say what he feels because he is a crazy fuck in my eyes"
    It is truly a matter of principle.. If someone can restrict or take away our 2nd amendment rights, who is to say that they can't do that with or 1st amendment rights?? or any of them for that matter..
    this is a very dangerous business you speak of..

    The second amendment starts by saying a well regulated militia, to me this doesn't mean any joe soap has the right to have a gun
  • CAVSTARR313
    CAVSTARR313 Posts: 8,756
    satansbed wrote:
    Cavstarr313 wrote:
    Cosmo wrote:
    ...
    Well... I do not agree with that. Our Constitution grants us rights.
    Again, i don't mind people choosing to arm themselves in home defense.
    I don't think that just anyone should own a gun... and I don't think anyone who owns a gun should be allowed to carry it where ever they want... whenever they want.
    The reason WHY I feel this way... there are a lot of unstable fucks out there. i don't want these unstable fucks out there on the streets with loaded guns.
    The unstable fucks have guns.. they are called criminals

    and what is this cherry picking of our rights?
    the 2nd amendment gives us all the right to arms..
    How would you feel if somebody where able to pick and choose who gets 1st amendment rights?
    "Bob shouldn't be able to say what he feels because he is a crazy fuck in my eyes"
    It is truly a matter of principle.. If someone can restrict or take away our 2nd amendment rights, who is to say that they can't do that with or 1st amendment rights?? or any of them for that matter..
    this is a very dangerous business you speak of..

    The second amendment starts by saying a well regulated militia, to me this doesn't mean any joe soap has the right to have a gun
    Well actually it does.. How would an effective civilian militia be able to defend our state, land , or rights without arms.. Just because at present most people are not "card carrying members of a militia" , without the right to arms an effective militia would not even have a chance to be formed..
    None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe that they are free.
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  • satansbed
    satansbed Posts: 2,139
    Cavstarr313 wrote:

    Well actually it does.. How would an effective civilian militia be able to defend our state, land , or rights without arms.. Just because at present most people are not "card carrying members of a militia" , without the right to arms an effective militia would not even have a chance to be formed..
    No you would just have to join a militia to be allowed have guns, you could set a up a militia fairly easily, no where in the constitution does it say that everyone has the right to own and carry a gun whenever they want, it even specifies this militia would have to be well regulated
  • blueandwhite
    blueandwhite Posts: 662
    Reading this thread makes me a bit happier to be living in Canada where guns aren't so deeply ingrained into our culture. Dispute the issue as much as you like; Americans experience more gun related violence than people in other developed nations. I can honestly say I have a slight fear of Americans and I am I feel a bit unsettled when traveling in the US.
  • LikeAnOcean
    LikeAnOcean Posts: 7,718
    blueandwhite wrote:
    Reading this thread makes me a bit happier to be living in Canada where guns aren't so deeply ingrained into our culture. Dispute the issue as much as you like; Americans experience more gun related violence than people in other developed nations. I can honestly say I have a slight fear of Americans and I am I feel a bit unsettled when traveling in the US.
    It's like the wild west down here. You'll most likely get shot before you die of old age..
  • CAVSTARR313
    CAVSTARR313 Posts: 8,756
    I deleted my post..
    I agreed with it, but I just see no sense in arguing a topic that most folks are very deeply vested in..

    I stand my belief.. and I respect the oppositions.. but the bottom line is, if that woman had not have shot that man dead who knows what would have happened to her..

    I cringe when I put my mother or any one that I love in that situation.. Would she have been raped? robbed then raped? robbed, raped, then murdered ? I believe the right to own a gun saved this woman from evil at the hands of a person who has no respect for human life.. and I intend to be prepared and to prepare my loved ones for just such a situation.. I respect all of your opinions, but from the world I see and live from day to day I just cannot agree with all of them.. I like to be prepared.. and unfortunately in this world, it means being prepared for the worst.. like some nut job coming through the window with who knows what in mind...
    None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe that they are free.
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  • LikeAnOcean
    LikeAnOcean Posts: 7,718
    Cavstarr313 wrote:
    I deleted my post..
    I agreed with it, but I just see no sense in arguing a topic that most folks are very deeply vested in..

    I stand my belief.. and I respect the oppositions.. but the bottom line is, if that woman had not have shot that man dead who knows what would have happened to her..

    I cringe when I put my mother or any one that I love in that situation.. Would she have been raped? robbed then raped? robbed, raped, then murdered ? I believe the right to own a gun saved this woman from evil at the hands of a person who has no respect for human life.. and I intend to be prepared and to prepare my loved ones for just such a situation.. I respect all of your opinions, but from the world I see and live from day to day I just cannot agree with all of them.. I like to be prepared.. and unfortunately in this world, it means being prepared for the worst.. like some nut job coming through the window with who knows what in mind...
    I am pretty liberal, but think everyone has the right to own a gun.. it's about personal responsibility to me.. I'm probably more of a Liberal Libertarian.. My girlfriend is the same way, very liberal and actually talked to me about getting a gun when we live together.

    Do we really need one? Probably not.. but I have a right to feel protected if that's what I need. Who's to tell me what I can and can't own.. Same with drugs. Legalize them all. Don't tell me what I can and can't do as long as I'm not hurting anyone else but myself.
  • JonnyPistachio
    JonnyPistachio Florida Posts: 10,219
    Cavstarr313 wrote:
    Cosmo wrote:
    ...
    Well... I do not agree with that. Our Constitution grants us rights.
    Again, i don't mind people choosing to arm themselves in home defense.
    I don't think that just anyone should own a gun... and I don't think anyone who owns a gun should be allowed to carry it where ever they want... whenever they want.
    The reason WHY I feel this way... there are a lot of unstable fucks out there. i don't want these unstable fucks out there on the streets with loaded guns.
    The unstable fucks have guns.. they are called criminals

    and what is this cherry picking of our rights?
    the 2nd amendment gives us all the right to arms..
    How would you feel if somebody where able to pick and choose who gets 1st amendment rights?
    "Bob shouldn't be able to say what he feels because he is a crazy fuck in my eyes"
    It is truly a matter of principle.. If someone can restrict or take away our 2nd amendment rights, who is to say that they can't do that with or 1st amendment rights?? or any of them for that matter..
    this is a very dangerous business you speak of..

    From my understanding, there are a lot of rules and regulations regarding your 2nd amendment rights, that are constantly fluctuating. for instance, I believe state to state there are different laws on ammunition limits, what types of firearms are allowed, waiting periods for purchase, background checks...etc, etc.
    And for example, I believe that kids who shot up all those folks in AZ might have obtained that gun legally. Do you not think that some kind of psychological indicator might have been present to say that he was unstable. Could those 9-10 lives been saved by some stringent regulations?
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  • usamamasan1
    usamamasan1 Posts: 4,695
    And another justified shooting. Poor girl. So sad we live in a world with such thugs....


    A young Oklahoma mother shot and killed an intruder to protect her 3-month-old baby on New Year's Eve, less than a week after the baby's father died of cancer.

    Sarah McKinley says that a week earlier a man named Justin Martin dropped by on the day of her husband's funeral, claiming that he was a neighbor who wanted to say hello. The 18-year-old Oklahoma City area woman did not let him into her home that day.

    On New Year's Eve Martin returned with another man, Dustin Stewart, and this time was armed with a 12-inch hunting knife. The two soon began trying to break into McKinley's home.

    As one of the men was going from door to door outside her home trying to gain entry, McKinley called 911 and grabbed her 12-gauge shotgun.

    McKinley told ABC News Oklahoma City affiliate KOCO that she quickly got her 12 gauge, went into her bedroom and got a pistol, put the bottle in the baby's mouth and called 911.

    "I've got two guns in my hand -- is it okay to shoot him if he comes in this door?" the young mother asked the 911 dispatcher. "I'm here by myself with my infant baby, can I please get a dispatcher out here immediately?"

    The 911 dispatcher confirmed with McKinley that the doors to her home were locked as she asked again if it was okay to shoot the intruder if he were to come through her door.

    "I can't tell you that you can do that but you do what you have to do to protect your baby," the dispatcher told her. McKinley was on the phone with 911 for a total of 21 minutes.

    When Martin kicked in the door and came after her with the knife, the teen mom shot and killed the 24-year-old. Police are calling the shooting justified.

    "You're allowed to shoot an unauthorized person that is in your home. The law provides you the remedy, and sanctions the use of deadly force," Det. Dan Huff of the Blanchard police said.

    Stewart soon turned himself in to police.

    McKinley said that she was at home alone with her newborn that night because her husband just died of cancer on Christmas Day.

    "I wouldn't have done it, but it was my son," McKinley told ABC News Oklahoma City affiliate KOCO. "It's not an easy decision to make, but it was either going to be him or my son. And it wasn't going to be my son. There's nothing more dangerous than a woman with a child."


    http://gma.yahoo.com/okla-woman-shoots- ... 06413.html
  • Bronx Bombers
    Bronx Bombers Posts: 2,208
    Good for her what a courageous woman, thankfully she was able to protect herself or who knows what could've happened to her or the baby.
  • MayDay Malone
    MayDay Malone Posts: 641
    Cosmo wrote:
    usamamasan1 wrote:
    I hunt. (not really, I shoot/harvest animals on my acreage)
    I own guns.
    I hunt to hone survival skills and marksmanship skills, mostly, to be prepared in the event the grocery store is closed. Dont get me wrong, i love some young doe...
    OR, more importantly, if "shit" hits the fan and some thugs think that the "place with lights on/generators) is a good target.

    I am an American. I will defend.

    I will defend.
    ...
    Riverside? Or Palmdale? Sounds more like Victorville.


    Shout out for the thugs in Lancaster.

    I'm locked and loaded.
  • JOEJOEJOE
    JOEJOEJOE Posts: 10,829
    Jamuel El Saxophone wrote:
    Godfather. wrote:
    Jamuel El Saxophone wrote:
    Senseless, heartless, cold-blooded murder.

    Hope she gets life in prison.


    really ? :wtf:

    Godfather.

    She didn't have to kill the guy. Her motives were clearly sinister. She should have shot him in a non-lethal spot, or just let him take what he wanted, as he probably needed it more than she did.

    It is an unfortunate situation, but how would the woman have known the intruder's intentions?

    How were her motives sinister?

    Perhaps she was too preoccupied with her own survival to worry about shooting him in a non-lethal place.
  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    shock and fear will change anybody, you can say I would shoot for a non-leathal area but the fact is...you don't know,when your will to live over powers your willingness to die and that mixed with fear and shock you may just shot to survive and worry about the dead bad guy later. ;)

    Godfather.
  • pandora
    pandora Posts: 21,855
    Her husband died the week before... poor mother and child this alone

    the whole story is upsetting, those guys coming right after the funeral, then back again.
    These predators ... no mercy for the predators

    her husband taught her well armed her to protect their son
    my heart tells me he was there with her in spirit keeping her strong and safe
    that night. God bless them all
  • usamamasan1
    usamamasan1 Posts: 4,695
    here's a clip from the latest

    http://gma.yahoo.com/video/news-2679792 ... 77235.html
  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    pandora wrote:
    Her husband died the week before... poor mother and child this alone

    the whole story is upsetting, those guys coming right after the funeral, then back again.
    These predators ... no mercy for the predators

    her husband taught her well armed her to protect their son
    my heart tells me he was there with her in spirit keeping her strong and safe
    that night. God bless them all
    :thumbup: agreed !

    Godfather.

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