Recession-driven cutbacks in state and local law enforcement budgets have made my right to self defense under the Second Amendment even more important.
People need the ability to defend themselves probably now more than ever.
Just what we need, some guy who thinks he knows what he's doing to add another gun to a situation...
Believe me, when I was growin up, I thought the worst thing you could turn out to be was normal, So I say freaks in the most complementary way. Here's a song by a fellow freak - E.V
unrelated, but this is a perfect example of why it is so fucked that I can't carry my firearm, but the criminal can. This just happened a mile away from where I work but I have to keep my firearm at home? Fucking California.... http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2 ... -head.html
im pretty sure criminals arent 'allowed' to carry firearms. im pretty sure if theyre caught carrying a firearm they get into at least as much trouble as if joe citizen was carrying. i dont think criminals get special dispensation cause its a requirement of their 'job' that they be armed.
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im pretty sure criminals arent 'allowed' to carry firearms. im pretty sure if theyre caught carrying a firearm they get into at least as much trouble as if joe citizen was carrying. i dont think criminals get special dispensation cause its a requirement of their 'job' that they be armed.
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More info is coming out on the shooter, sounds like suicide by Cop...I still need to verify where/how he obtained the .40 caliber pistol that is the murder weapon: Rev. Ian Garancheski was shocked to hear the news coming out of Los Angeles about his friend Tyler Brehm.
"It's just crazy," the Carlisle man said tonight. "This does not sound like anything he would do."
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The Times reported Brehm's ex-girlfriend, Alicia Alligood, 24, told KTLA-TV Channel 5 that she and Brehm dated for four years before breaking up this month.
"He was screaming he was going to die and that he wanted to die," Gregory Bojorquez, a photographer who captured images of the shooting's aftermath, told the Los Angeles Times.
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im pretty sure criminals arent 'allowed' to carry firearms. im pretty sure if theyre caught carrying a firearm they get into at least as much trouble as if joe citizen was carrying. i dont think criminals get special dispensation cause its a requirement of their 'job' that they be armed.
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More info is coming out on the shooter, sounds like suicide by Cop...I still need to verify where/how he obtained the .40 caliber pistol that is the murder weapon: Rev. Ian Garancheski was shocked to hear the news coming out of Los Angeles about his friend Tyler Brehm.
"It's just crazy," the Carlisle man said tonight. "This does not sound like anything he would do."
...
The Times reported Brehm's ex-girlfriend, Alicia Alligood, 24, told KTLA-TV Channel 5 that she and Brehm dated for four years before breaking up this month.
"He was screaming he was going to die and that he wanted to die," Gregory Bojorquez, a photographer who captured images of the shooting's aftermath, told the Los Angeles Times.
oh we had one of those suicide by cop scenarios in our suburb not that long ago. the young guy was known to us and fortunately the cops talked him down, no one was shot and everyones still alive. hail hail!!
hear my name
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
oh we had one of those suicide by cop scenarios in our suburb not that long ago. the young guy was known to us and fortunately the cops talked him down, no one was shot and everyones still alive. hail hail!!
THank god there were no skilled marksman in the area...
Believe me, when I was growin up, I thought the worst thing you could turn out to be was normal, So I say freaks in the most complementary way. Here's a song by a fellow freak - E.V
Good for the woman for protecting herself in the op, and if someone breaks into MY house, the same damn thing is going to happen to them.
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And you should... should you decide to use that strategy for home defense.
I wouldn't exactly be thrilled to do that at all, but if a guy is continuing to come into my house after I have shot a warning shot and the police or law enforcement are not there and I need to protect myself and my family, then, yes hell, the person will get shot.
This kind of the whole point
police are not there out on the streets, count it a miracle if you are so lucky.
I mean really :?
They respond to crime after the fact in most cases.
After the rape, after the robbery, after the murder, in too many cases.
If there is a well trained citizen who can meet violence with violence
and save a life or save someone horrible trauma
well how and why would anyone find fault with that?
Is it out of fear that too many will have guns?
That there is a fear something bad might happen?
Well there is tons of bad stuff happening... look around. We need to stop that bad stuff
from happening in a responsible way. Jump on it and not allow it to happen to
each other. Stop crime while it is happening, stop them dead in their tracks.
With proper training and gun ownership citizens can do this.
That is certainly better than where we are now.
And to the people who say they are safe walking home in the wee hours of the morning...
hope you didn't just jinx yourself cause crime is a surprise
One you don't want to experience but likely will some day.
When you are looking at death you might just wish for a hero.
God bless the heros!
oh we had one of those suicide by cop scenarios in our suburb not that long ago. the young guy was known to us and fortunately the cops talked him down, no one was shot and everyones still alive. hail hail!!
THank god there were no skilled marksman in the area...
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It still needs to be verified if the gunman in Hollywood was the legal owner of the gun or not.
If the case turns out to be he stole the gun or obtained it illegally... he is a criminal.
If he legally owned the gun... his initial crime was taking the loaded weapon into the street without a permit. Firing it at people made him a criminal.
For all we know... he was a law abiding citizen... with full rights to gun ownership... until he stepped out his front door with that loaded weapon.
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Hail, Hail!!!
oh we had one of those suicide by cop scenarios in our suburb not that long ago. the young guy was known to us and fortunately the cops talked him down, no one was shot and everyones still alive. hail hail!!
THank god there were no skilled marksman in the area...
we dont have guns. the australian govt took them off us after martin bryant killed 35 people down in tasmania back in 1996.
hear my name
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
oh we had one of those suicide by cop scenarios in our suburb not that long ago. the young guy was known to us and fortunately the cops talked him down, no one was shot and everyones still alive. hail hail!!
THank god there were no skilled marksman in the area...
we dont have guns. the australian govt took them off us after martin bryant killed 35 people down in tasmania back in 1996.
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Well... I do not agree with that. Our Constitution grants us rights.
Again, i don't mind people choosing to arm themselves in home defense.
I don't think that just anyone should own a gun... and I don't think anyone who owns a gun should be allowed to carry it where ever they want... whenever they want.
The reason WHY I feel this way... there are a lot of unstable fucks out there. i don't want these unstable fucks out there on the streets with loaded guns.
Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
Hail, Hail!!!
we dont have guns. the australian govt took them off us after martin bryant killed 35 people down in tasmania back in 1996.
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Well... I do not agree with that. Our Constitution grants us rights.
Again, i don't mind people choosing to arm themselves in home defense.
I don't think that just anyone should own a gun... and I don't think anyone who owns a gun should be allowed to carry it where ever they want... whenever they want.
The reason WHY I feel this way... there are a lot of unstable fucks out there. i don't want these unstable fucks out there on the streets with loaded guns.
we dont have a bill of rights.
hear my name
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
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Well... I do not agree with that. Our Constitution grants us rights.
Again, i don't mind people choosing to arm themselves in home defense.
I don't think that just anyone should own a gun... and I don't think anyone who owns a gun should be allowed to carry it where ever they want... whenever they want.
The reason WHY I feel this way... there are a lot of unstable fucks out there. i don't want these unstable fucks out there on the streets with loaded guns.
The unstable fucks have guns.. they are called criminals
and what is this cherry picking of our rights?
the 2nd amendment gives us all the right to arms..
How would you feel if somebody where able to pick and choose who gets 1st amendment rights?
"Bob shouldn't be able to say what he feels because he is a crazy fuck in my eyes"
It is truly a matter of principle.. If someone can restrict or take away our 2nd amendment rights, who is to say that they can't do that with or 1st amendment rights?? or any of them for that matter..
this is a very dangerous business you speak of..
None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe that they are free.
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Well... I do not agree with that. Our Constitution grants us rights.
Again, i don't mind people choosing to arm themselves in home defense.
I don't think that just anyone should own a gun... and I don't think anyone who owns a gun should be allowed to carry it where ever they want... whenever they want.
The reason WHY I feel this way... there are a lot of unstable fucks out there. i don't want these unstable fucks out there on the streets with loaded guns.
The unstable fucks have guns.. they are called criminals
and what is this cherry picking of our rights?
the 2nd amendment gives us all the right to arms..
How would you feel if somebody where able to pick and choose who gets 1st amendment rights?
"Bob shouldn't be able to say what he feels because he is a crazy fuck in my eyes"
It is truly a matter of principle.. If someone can restrict or take away our 2nd amendment rights, who is to say that they can't do that with or 1st amendment rights?? or any of them for that matter..
this is a very dangerous business you speak of..
The second amendment starts by saying a well regulated militia, to me this doesn't mean any joe soap has the right to have a gun
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Well... I do not agree with that. Our Constitution grants us rights.
Again, i don't mind people choosing to arm themselves in home defense.
I don't think that just anyone should own a gun... and I don't think anyone who owns a gun should be allowed to carry it where ever they want... whenever they want.
The reason WHY I feel this way... there are a lot of unstable fucks out there. i don't want these unstable fucks out there on the streets with loaded guns.
The unstable fucks have guns.. they are called criminals
and what is this cherry picking of our rights?
the 2nd amendment gives us all the right to arms..
How would you feel if somebody where able to pick and choose who gets 1st amendment rights?
"Bob shouldn't be able to say what he feels because he is a crazy fuck in my eyes"
It is truly a matter of principle.. If someone can restrict or take away our 2nd amendment rights, who is to say that they can't do that with or 1st amendment rights?? or any of them for that matter..
this is a very dangerous business you speak of..
The second amendment starts by saying a well regulated militia, to me this doesn't mean any joe soap has the right to have a gun
Well actually it does.. How would an effective civilian militia be able to defend our state, land , or rights without arms.. Just because at present most people are not "card carrying members of a militia" , without the right to arms an effective militia would not even have a chance to be formed..
None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe that they are free.
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Well actually it does.. How would an effective civilian militia be able to defend our state, land , or rights without arms.. Just because at present most people are not "card carrying members of a militia" , without the right to arms an effective militia would not even have a chance to be formed..
No you would just have to join a militia to be allowed have guns, you could set a up a militia fairly easily, no where in the constitution does it say that everyone has the right to own and carry a gun whenever they want, it even specifies this militia would have to be well regulated
Reading this thread makes me a bit happier to be living in Canada where guns aren't so deeply ingrained into our culture. Dispute the issue as much as you like; Americans experience more gun related violence than people in other developed nations. I can honestly say I have a slight fear of Americans and I am I feel a bit unsettled when traveling in the US.
Reading this thread makes me a bit happier to be living in Canada where guns aren't so deeply ingrained into our culture. Dispute the issue as much as you like; Americans experience more gun related violence than people in other developed nations. I can honestly say I have a slight fear of Americans and I am I feel a bit unsettled when traveling in the US.
It's like the wild west down here. You'll most likely get shot before you die of old age..
I deleted my post..
I agreed with it, but I just see no sense in arguing a topic that most folks are very deeply vested in..
I stand my belief.. and I respect the oppositions.. but the bottom line is, if that woman had not have shot that man dead who knows what would have happened to her..
I cringe when I put my mother or any one that I love in that situation.. Would she have been raped? robbed then raped? robbed, raped, then murdered ? I believe the right to own a gun saved this woman from evil at the hands of a person who has no respect for human life.. and I intend to be prepared and to prepare my loved ones for just such a situation.. I respect all of your opinions, but from the world I see and live from day to day I just cannot agree with all of them.. I like to be prepared.. and unfortunately in this world, it means being prepared for the worst.. like some nut job coming through the window with who knows what in mind...
None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe that they are free.
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I deleted my post..
I agreed with it, but I just see no sense in arguing a topic that most folks are very deeply vested in..
I stand my belief.. and I respect the oppositions.. but the bottom line is, if that woman had not have shot that man dead who knows what would have happened to her..
I cringe when I put my mother or any one that I love in that situation.. Would she have been raped? robbed then raped? robbed, raped, then murdered ? I believe the right to own a gun saved this woman from evil at the hands of a person who has no respect for human life.. and I intend to be prepared and to prepare my loved ones for just such a situation.. I respect all of your opinions, but from the world I see and live from day to day I just cannot agree with all of them.. I like to be prepared.. and unfortunately in this world, it means being prepared for the worst.. like some nut job coming through the window with who knows what in mind...
I am pretty liberal, but think everyone has the right to own a gun.. it's about personal responsibility to me.. I'm probably more of a Liberal Libertarian.. My girlfriend is the same way, very liberal and actually talked to me about getting a gun when we live together.
Do we really need one? Probably not.. but I have a right to feel protected if that's what I need. Who's to tell me what I can and can't own.. Same with drugs. Legalize them all. Don't tell me what I can and can't do as long as I'm not hurting anyone else but myself.
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Well... I do not agree with that. Our Constitution grants us rights.
Again, i don't mind people choosing to arm themselves in home defense.
I don't think that just anyone should own a gun... and I don't think anyone who owns a gun should be allowed to carry it where ever they want... whenever they want.
The reason WHY I feel this way... there are a lot of unstable fucks out there. i don't want these unstable fucks out there on the streets with loaded guns.
The unstable fucks have guns.. they are called criminals
and what is this cherry picking of our rights?
the 2nd amendment gives us all the right to arms..
How would you feel if somebody where able to pick and choose who gets 1st amendment rights?
"Bob shouldn't be able to say what he feels because he is a crazy fuck in my eyes"
It is truly a matter of principle.. If someone can restrict or take away our 2nd amendment rights, who is to say that they can't do that with or 1st amendment rights?? or any of them for that matter..
this is a very dangerous business you speak of..
From my understanding, there are a lot of rules and regulations regarding your 2nd amendment rights, that are constantly fluctuating. for instance, I believe state to state there are different laws on ammunition limits, what types of firearms are allowed, waiting periods for purchase, background checks...etc, etc.
And for example, I believe that kids who shot up all those folks in AZ might have obtained that gun legally. Do you not think that some kind of psychological indicator might have been present to say that he was unstable. Could those 9-10 lives been saved by some stringent regulations?
And another justified shooting. Poor girl. So sad we live in a world with such thugs....
A young Oklahoma mother shot and killed an intruder to protect her 3-month-old baby on New Year's Eve, less than a week after the baby's father died of cancer.
Sarah McKinley says that a week earlier a man named Justin Martin dropped by on the day of her husband's funeral, claiming that he was a neighbor who wanted to say hello. The 18-year-old Oklahoma City area woman did not let him into her home that day.
On New Year's Eve Martin returned with another man, Dustin Stewart, and this time was armed with a 12-inch hunting knife. The two soon began trying to break into McKinley's home.
As one of the men was going from door to door outside her home trying to gain entry, McKinley called 911 and grabbed her 12-gauge shotgun.
McKinley told ABC News Oklahoma City affiliate KOCO that she quickly got her 12 gauge, went into her bedroom and got a pistol, put the bottle in the baby's mouth and called 911.
"I've got two guns in my hand -- is it okay to shoot him if he comes in this door?" the young mother asked the 911 dispatcher. "I'm here by myself with my infant baby, can I please get a dispatcher out here immediately?"
The 911 dispatcher confirmed with McKinley that the doors to her home were locked as she asked again if it was okay to shoot the intruder if he were to come through her door.
"I can't tell you that you can do that but you do what you have to do to protect your baby," the dispatcher told her. McKinley was on the phone with 911 for a total of 21 minutes.
When Martin kicked in the door and came after her with the knife, the teen mom shot and killed the 24-year-old. Police are calling the shooting justified.
"You're allowed to shoot an unauthorized person that is in your home. The law provides you the remedy, and sanctions the use of deadly force," Det. Dan Huff of the Blanchard police said.
Stewart soon turned himself in to police.
McKinley said that she was at home alone with her newborn that night because her husband just died of cancer on Christmas Day.
"I wouldn't have done it, but it was my son," McKinley told ABC News Oklahoma City affiliate KOCO. "It's not an easy decision to make, but it was either going to be him or my son. And it wasn't going to be my son. There's nothing more dangerous than a woman with a child."
I hunt. (not really, I shoot/harvest animals on my acreage)
I own guns.
I hunt to hone survival skills and marksmanship skills, mostly, to be prepared in the event the grocery store is closed. Dont get me wrong, i love some young doe...
OR, more importantly, if "shit" hits the fan and some thugs think that the "place with lights on/generators) is a good target.
I am an American. I will defend.
I will defend.
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Riverside? Or Palmdale? Sounds more like Victorville.
She didn't have to kill the guy. Her motives were clearly sinister. She should have shot him in a non-lethal spot, or just let him take what he wanted, as he probably needed it more than she did.
It is an unfortunate situation, but how would the woman have known the intruder's intentions?
How were her motives sinister?
Perhaps she was too preoccupied with her own survival to worry about shooting him in a non-lethal place.
shock and fear will change anybody, you can say I would shoot for a non-leathal area but the fact is...you don't know,when your will to live over powers your willingness to die and that mixed with fear and shock you may just shot to survive and worry about the dead bad guy later.
Her husband died the week before... poor mother and child this alone
the whole story is upsetting, those guys coming right after the funeral, then back again.
These predators ... no mercy for the predators
her husband taught her well armed her to protect their son
my heart tells me he was there with her in spirit keeping her strong and safe
that night. God bless them all
Her husband died the week before... poor mother and child this alone
the whole story is upsetting, those guys coming right after the funeral, then back again.
These predators ... no mercy for the predators
her husband taught her well armed her to protect their son
my heart tells me he was there with her in spirit keeping her strong and safe
that night. God bless them all
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People need the ability to defend themselves probably now more than ever.
im pretty sure criminals arent 'allowed' to carry firearms. im pretty sure if theyre caught carrying a firearm they get into at least as much trouble as if joe citizen was carrying. i dont think criminals get special dispensation cause its a requirement of their 'job' that they be armed.
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
More info is coming out on the shooter, sounds like suicide by Cop...I still need to verify where/how he obtained the .40 caliber pistol that is the murder weapon:
Rev. Ian Garancheski was shocked to hear the news coming out of Los Angeles about his friend Tyler Brehm.
"It's just crazy," the Carlisle man said tonight. "This does not sound like anything he would do."
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The Times reported Brehm's ex-girlfriend, Alicia Alligood, 24, told KTLA-TV Channel 5 that she and Brehm dated for four years before breaking up this month.
"He was screaming he was going to die and that he wanted to die," Gregory Bojorquez, a photographer who captured images of the shooting's aftermath, told the Los Angeles Times.
Hail, Hail!!!
oh we had one of those suicide by cop scenarios in our suburb not that long ago. the young guy was known to us and fortunately the cops talked him down, no one was shot and everyones still alive. hail hail!!
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
police are not there out on the streets, count it a miracle if you are so lucky.
I mean really :?
They respond to crime after the fact in most cases.
After the rape, after the robbery, after the murder, in too many cases.
If there is a well trained citizen who can meet violence with violence
and save a life or save someone horrible trauma
well how and why would anyone find fault with that?
Is it out of fear that too many will have guns?
That there is a fear something bad might happen?
Well there is tons of bad stuff happening... look around. We need to stop that bad stuff
from happening in a responsible way. Jump on it and not allow it to happen to
each other. Stop crime while it is happening, stop them dead in their tracks.
With proper training and gun ownership citizens can do this.
That is certainly better than where we are now.
And to the people who say they are safe walking home in the wee hours of the morning...
hope you didn't just jinx yourself cause crime is a surprise
One you don't want to experience but likely will some day.
When you are looking at death you might just wish for a hero.
God bless the heros!
It still needs to be verified if the gunman in Hollywood was the legal owner of the gun or not.
If the case turns out to be he stole the gun or obtained it illegally... he is a criminal.
If he legally owned the gun... his initial crime was taking the loaded weapon into the street without a permit. Firing it at people made him a criminal.
For all we know... he was a law abiding citizen... with full rights to gun ownership... until he stepped out his front door with that loaded weapon.
Hail, Hail!!!
we dont have guns. the australian govt took them off us after martin bryant killed 35 people down in tasmania back in 1996.
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
Well... I do not agree with that. Our Constitution grants us rights.
Again, i don't mind people choosing to arm themselves in home defense.
I don't think that just anyone should own a gun... and I don't think anyone who owns a gun should be allowed to carry it where ever they want... whenever they want.
The reason WHY I feel this way... there are a lot of unstable fucks out there. i don't want these unstable fucks out there on the streets with loaded guns.
Hail, Hail!!!
we dont have a bill of rights.
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
and what is this cherry picking of our rights?
the 2nd amendment gives us all the right to arms..
How would you feel if somebody where able to pick and choose who gets 1st amendment rights?
"Bob shouldn't be able to say what he feels because he is a crazy fuck in my eyes"
It is truly a matter of principle.. If someone can restrict or take away our 2nd amendment rights, who is to say that they can't do that with or 1st amendment rights?? or any of them for that matter..
this is a very dangerous business you speak of..
Abrn Hlls '98 - Clarkston 2 '03 - Grd Rpds '06 - Abrn Hlls '06 - Clvd '10 - PJ20 - Berlin 1+2 '12 - Wrigley '13 - Pitt '13- buff '13- Philly 1+2 '13 - Seattle '13
The second amendment starts by saying a well regulated militia, to me this doesn't mean any joe soap has the right to have a gun
Abrn Hlls '98 - Clarkston 2 '03 - Grd Rpds '06 - Abrn Hlls '06 - Clvd '10 - PJ20 - Berlin 1+2 '12 - Wrigley '13 - Pitt '13- buff '13- Philly 1+2 '13 - Seattle '13
I agreed with it, but I just see no sense in arguing a topic that most folks are very deeply vested in..
I stand my belief.. and I respect the oppositions.. but the bottom line is, if that woman had not have shot that man dead who knows what would have happened to her..
I cringe when I put my mother or any one that I love in that situation.. Would she have been raped? robbed then raped? robbed, raped, then murdered ? I believe the right to own a gun saved this woman from evil at the hands of a person who has no respect for human life.. and I intend to be prepared and to prepare my loved ones for just such a situation.. I respect all of your opinions, but from the world I see and live from day to day I just cannot agree with all of them.. I like to be prepared.. and unfortunately in this world, it means being prepared for the worst.. like some nut job coming through the window with who knows what in mind...
Abrn Hlls '98 - Clarkston 2 '03 - Grd Rpds '06 - Abrn Hlls '06 - Clvd '10 - PJ20 - Berlin 1+2 '12 - Wrigley '13 - Pitt '13- buff '13- Philly 1+2 '13 - Seattle '13
Do we really need one? Probably not.. but I have a right to feel protected if that's what I need. Who's to tell me what I can and can't own.. Same with drugs. Legalize them all. Don't tell me what I can and can't do as long as I'm not hurting anyone else but myself.
From my understanding, there are a lot of rules and regulations regarding your 2nd amendment rights, that are constantly fluctuating. for instance, I believe state to state there are different laws on ammunition limits, what types of firearms are allowed, waiting periods for purchase, background checks...etc, etc.
And for example, I believe that kids who shot up all those folks in AZ might have obtained that gun legally. Do you not think that some kind of psychological indicator might have been present to say that he was unstable. Could those 9-10 lives been saved by some stringent regulations?
A young Oklahoma mother shot and killed an intruder to protect her 3-month-old baby on New Year's Eve, less than a week after the baby's father died of cancer.
Sarah McKinley says that a week earlier a man named Justin Martin dropped by on the day of her husband's funeral, claiming that he was a neighbor who wanted to say hello. The 18-year-old Oklahoma City area woman did not let him into her home that day.
On New Year's Eve Martin returned with another man, Dustin Stewart, and this time was armed with a 12-inch hunting knife. The two soon began trying to break into McKinley's home.
As one of the men was going from door to door outside her home trying to gain entry, McKinley called 911 and grabbed her 12-gauge shotgun.
McKinley told ABC News Oklahoma City affiliate KOCO that she quickly got her 12 gauge, went into her bedroom and got a pistol, put the bottle in the baby's mouth and called 911.
"I've got two guns in my hand -- is it okay to shoot him if he comes in this door?" the young mother asked the 911 dispatcher. "I'm here by myself with my infant baby, can I please get a dispatcher out here immediately?"
The 911 dispatcher confirmed with McKinley that the doors to her home were locked as she asked again if it was okay to shoot the intruder if he were to come through her door.
"I can't tell you that you can do that but you do what you have to do to protect your baby," the dispatcher told her. McKinley was on the phone with 911 for a total of 21 minutes.
When Martin kicked in the door and came after her with the knife, the teen mom shot and killed the 24-year-old. Police are calling the shooting justified.
"You're allowed to shoot an unauthorized person that is in your home. The law provides you the remedy, and sanctions the use of deadly force," Det. Dan Huff of the Blanchard police said.
Stewart soon turned himself in to police.
McKinley said that she was at home alone with her newborn that night because her husband just died of cancer on Christmas Day.
"I wouldn't have done it, but it was my son," McKinley told ABC News Oklahoma City affiliate KOCO. "It's not an easy decision to make, but it was either going to be him or my son. And it wasn't going to be my son. There's nothing more dangerous than a woman with a child."
http://gma.yahoo.com/okla-woman-shoots- ... 06413.html
Shout out for the thugs in Lancaster.
I'm locked and loaded.
It is an unfortunate situation, but how would the woman have known the intruder's intentions?
How were her motives sinister?
Perhaps she was too preoccupied with her own survival to worry about shooting him in a non-lethal place.
Godfather.
the whole story is upsetting, those guys coming right after the funeral, then back again.
These predators ... no mercy for the predators
her husband taught her well armed her to protect their son
my heart tells me he was there with her in spirit keeping her strong and safe
that night. God bless them all
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Godfather.