Self defense. Woman shoots and kills intruder. 911 audio

satansbed

lukin2006 wrote:

satansbed wrote:

pandora wrote:

the students here at Georgia Tech in downtown Atlanta
are rallying to carry firearms on campus

crime is definitely on the rise around the school

while its all well and good having a gun in your own home, this is just a recipe for disaster

Really I know plenty of people who hunt and obviously own guns...

That's different to having handguns in college, you just have to look at virgina tech to see thats a terrible idea

satansbed

lukin2006 wrote:

Some examples with a very quick search.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osaka_school_massacre
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akihabara_massacre

In these two attacks 14people where killed while Colombine allowing there where 14 people killed ans 25 injured, there is no doubt that guns are far more lethal than knives. Having a hand gun in the home or a rifle for hunting is completely different to open carrying of handguns

Cosmo

Personally... if someone keeps loaded firearms in their home for protection... fine... no problem. Intruders need to understand that they run the risk of armed response when they illegally enter someone else's home.
But... i really don't want these civilian vigilante types, wandering around the city I live in, stroking their stock, just looking for someone to shoot. I mistrust their judgement as much as I mistrust the criminal's judgement.

catefrances

Cosmo wrote:

Personally... if someone keeps loaded firearms in their home for protection... fine... no problem. Intruders need to understand that they run the risk of armed response when they illegally enter someone else's home.
But... i really don't want these civilian vigilante types, wandering around the city I live in, stroking their stock, just looking for someone to shoot. I mistrust their judgement as much as I mistrust the criminal's judgement.

not to mention the possibility of innocent bystanders being caught in the crossfire

Cosmo

catefrances wrote:

not to mention the possibility of innocent bystanders being caught in the crossfire

...
Bystander, schmystander... they shouldn't have been standing in the line of fire of that guy that looked like he might be up to no good.

pandora

satansbed wrote:

pandora wrote:

the students here at Georgia Tech in downtown Atlanta
are rallying to carry firearms on campus

crime is definitely on the rise around the school

while its all well and good having a gun in your own home, this is just a recipe for disaster

If this gets passed anyone carrying will need to be well trained
not just on the use of a gun but also the laws so the victim realizes
they can not shoot someone unless they fear for their lives
or fear for great bodily harm.

This type of training should be made apart of gun ownership.

We need to empower our citizens who live on the right side of law.

Criminals will always have guns, time to take back the streets.
It is only getting worse.
It could be your girl raped, your mother terrorized,
your father beaten left for dead in an alley for a watch and a wedding ring
or less.

Whomever thinks this woman is the least bit guilty needs to meditate for awhile
and picture their own mother at the hands of this man entering her apartment.
Feel what she feels, and know you are putting your trust in the wrong person.

The perp here was on a mission ... 2 warning bullets didn't even stop him.

In my opinion, doing a bunch of what if's is ridiculous, properly train gun owners,
allow them to carry to protect themselves, their loved ones and maybe even yours
or mine.

satansbed

pandora wrote:

satansbed wrote:

pandora wrote:

the students here at Georgia Tech in downtown Atlanta
are rallying to carry firearms on campus

crime is definitely on the rise around the school

while its all well and good having a gun in your own home, this is just a recipe for disaster

If this gets passed anyone carrying will need to be well trained
not just on the use of a gun but also the laws so the victim realizes
they can not shoot someone unless they fear for their lives
or fear for great bodily harm.

This type of training should be made apart of gun ownership.

We need to empower our citizens who live on the right side of law.

Criminals will always have guns, time to take back the streets.
It is only getting worse.
It could be your girl raped, your mother terrorized,
your father beaten left for dead in an alley for a watch and a wedding ring
or less.

Whomever thinks this woman is the least bit guilty needs to meditate for awhile
and picture their own mother at the hands of this man entering her apartment.
Feel what she feels, and know you are putting your trust in the wrong person.

The perp here was on a mission ... 2 warning bullets didn't even stop him.

In my opinion, doing a bunch of what if's is ridiculous, properly train gun owners,
allow them to carry to protect themselves, their loved ones and maybe even yours
or mine.

Sensationalist bullshit if ever I heard it, I hate the use of such emotive language in a debate that should be about logic

catefrances

pandora wrote:

If this gets passed anyone carrying will need to be well trained
not just on the use of a gun but also the laws so the victim realizes
they can not shoot someone unless they fear for their lives
or fear for great bodily harm.

This type of training should be made apart of gun ownership.

We need to empower our citizens who live on the right side of law.

Criminals will always have guns, time to take back the streets.
It is only getting worse.
It could be your girl raped, your mother terrorized,
your father beaten left for dead in an alley for a watch and a wedding ring
or less.

Whomever thinks this woman is the least bit guilty needs to meditate for awhile
and picture their own mother at the hands of this man entering her apartment.
Feel what she feels, and know you are putting your trust in the wrong person.

The perp here was on a mission ... 2 warning bullets didn't even stop him.

In my opinion, doing a bunch of what if's is ridiculous, properly train gun owners,
allow them to carry to protect themselves, their loved ones and maybe even yours
or mine.

the perp??? sorry pandora but that just made me laugh. see...>>>

Cosmo

catefrances wrote:

the perp??? sorry pandora but that just made me laugh. see...>>>

...
Someone put too much CSI in the eggnog.

pandora

catefrances wrote:

pandora wrote:

If this gets passed anyone carrying will need to be well trained
not just on the use of a gun but also the laws so the victim realizes
they can not shoot someone unless they fear for their lives
or fear for great bodily harm.

This type of training should be made apart of gun ownership.

We need to empower our citizens who live on the right side of law.

Criminals will always have guns, time to take back the streets.
It is only getting worse.
It could be your girl raped, your mother terrorized,
your father beaten left for dead in an alley for a watch and a wedding ring
or less.

Whomever thinks this woman is the least bit guilty needs to meditate for awhile
and picture their own mother at the hands of this man entering her apartment.
Feel what she feels, and know you are putting your trust in the wrong person.

The perp here was on a mission ... 2 warning bullets didn't even stop him.

In my opinion, doing a bunch of what if's is ridiculous, properly train gun owners,
allow them to carry to protect themselves, their loved ones and maybe even yours
or mine.

the perp??? sorry pandora but that just made me laugh. see...>>>

that's my daughter ... Forsencis ... CSI biology major its interesting stuff

we talk alot

pandora

Cosmo wrote:

catefrances wrote:

the perp??? sorry pandora but that just made me laugh. see...>>>

...
Someone put too much CSI in the eggnog.

always jump to conclusions....


logical in my case though

pandora

satansbed wrote:

pandora wrote:

If this gets passed anyone carrying will need to be well trained
not just on the use of a gun but also the laws so the victim realizes
they can not shoot someone unless they fear for their lives
or fear for great bodily harm.

This type of training should be made apart of gun ownership.

We need to empower our citizens who live on the right side of law.

Criminals will always have guns, time to take back the streets.
It is only getting worse.
It could be your girl raped, your mother terrorized,
your father beaten left for dead in an alley for a watch and a wedding ring
or less.

Whomever thinks this woman is the least bit guilty needs to meditate for awhile
and picture their own mother at the hands of this man entering her apartment.
Feel what she feels, and know you are putting your trust in the wrong person.

The perp here was on a mission ... 2 warning bullets didn't even stop him.

In my opinion, doing a bunch of what if's is ridiculous, properly train gun owners,
allow them to carry to protect themselves, their loved ones and maybe even yours
or mine.

Sensationalist bullshit if ever I heard it, I hate the use of such emotive language in a debate that should be about logic

Dont forget to feel for the victim amongst your logical debate :?

catefrances

pandora wrote:

catefrances wrote:

pandora wrote:

If this gets passed anyone carrying will need to be well trained
not just on the use of a gun but also the laws so the victim realizes
they can not shoot someone unless they fear for their lives
or fear for great bodily harm.

This type of training should be made apart of gun ownership.

We need to empower our citizens who live on the right side of law.

Criminals will always have guns, time to take back the streets.
It is only getting worse.
It could be your girl raped, your mother terrorized,
your father beaten left for dead in an alley for a watch and a wedding ring
or less.

Whomever thinks this woman is the least bit guilty needs to meditate for awhile
and picture their own mother at the hands of this man entering her apartment.
Feel what she feels, and know you are putting your trust in the wrong person.

The perp here was on a mission ... 2 warning bullets didn't even stop him.

In my opinion, doing a bunch of what if's is ridiculous, properly train gun owners,
allow them to carry to protect themselves, their loved ones and maybe even yours
or mine.

the perp??? sorry pandora but that just made me laugh. see...>>>

that's my daughter ... Forsencis ... CSI biology major its interesting stuff

we talk alot

it is very interesting stuff. though im more interested in the psychology of crime.

those CSi shows drive me insane(r).. would it kill them to turn on a friggin' light? and when is someone gonna off calleigh duquesne??? they killed off tim they should do the same to her. she bugs the bejeesus out of me.

satansbed

pandora wrote:

satansbed wrote:

pandora wrote:

If this gets passed anyone carrying will need to be well trained
not just on the use of a gun but also the laws so the victim realizes
they can not shoot someone unless they fear for their lives
or fear for great bodily harm.

This type of training should be made apart of gun ownership.

We need to empower our citizens who live on the right side of law.

Criminals will always have guns, time to take back the streets.
It is only getting worse.
It could be your girl raped, your mother terrorized,
your father beaten left for dead in an alley for a watch and a wedding ring
or less.

Whomever thinks this woman is the least bit guilty needs to meditate for awhile
and picture their own mother at the hands of this man entering her apartment.
Feel what she feels, and know you are putting your trust in the wrong person.

The perp here was on a mission ... 2 warning bullets didn't even stop him.

In my opinion, doing a bunch of what if's is ridiculous, properly train gun owners,
allow them to carry to protect themselves, their loved ones and maybe even yours
or mine.

Sensationalist bullshit if ever I heard it, I hate the use of such emotive language in a debate that should be about logic

Dont forget to feel for the victim amongst your logical debate :?

You will see in my post this was bolded, do not misquote me

Cosmo

satansbed wrote:

You will see in my post this was bolded, do not misquote me

...
Careful where you step... it's a lot murkier than it looks.
Basic Rule of Thumb #27: If it looks like shit... avoid. It's probably shit.

Cosmo

satansbed wrote:

That's different to having handguns in college, you just have to look at virgina tech to see thats a terrible idea

...
Oh... come on. Nothing goes better together than guns and beer pong, right?
Quit being such a fuddy-duddy.

usamamasan1

Cosmo wrote:

Personally... if someone keeps loaded firearms in their home for protection... fine... no problem. Intruders need to understand that they run the risk of armed response when they illegally enter someone else's home.
But... i really don't want these civilian vigilante types, wandering around the city I live in, stroking their stock, just looking for someone to shoot. I mistrust their judgement as much as I mistrust the criminal's judgement.

Who does that? "these civilian vigilante types" Great point...

Way to add something constructive. Fact is, criminals do not follow the law. People who register their firearms and hold a CCW are far less likely to commit crimes than others. But, I wouldn't want you to be dissuaded from your trolling with facts and statistics.

blueandwhite

usamamasan1 wrote:

Cosmo wrote:

Personally... if someone keeps loaded firearms in their home for protection... fine... no problem. Intruders need to understand that they run the risk of armed response when they illegally enter someone else's home.
But... i really don't want these civilian vigilante types, wandering around the city I live in, stroking their stock, just looking for someone to shoot. I mistrust their judgement as much as I mistrust the criminal's judgement.

Who does that? "these civilian vigilante types" Great point...

Way to add something constructive. Fact is, criminals do not follow the law. People who register their firearms and hold a CCW are far less likely to commit crimes than others. But, I wouldn't want you to be dissuaded from your trolling with facts and statistics.

Are these the same facts and statistics which indicate that the US has a far higher death rate per-capita than any other developed nation when it comes to the use of firearms? One thing I've come to appreciate is that facts and statistics mean nothing on the train.

usamamasan1

Cross reference your death rate data with those that have a CCW. Then, get back with the facts.
I bet you will find that the "death rate" data you speak of does not apply to lawfull , registered handgun owners.

This is what I speak.

God bless

Woot

pandora

satansbed wrote:

Sensationalist bullshit if ever I heard it, I hate the use of such emotive language in a debate that should be about logic

You will see in my post this was bolded, do not misquote me

Misquote you those were my words

yours were bolded in your post I removed from my response as I did not bold those you did
If I had wanted them to be the entire point of my post I would have.

Hard facts though not sensational bullshit as you so rudely reply
... its important to feel each others pain
I guess you think that is bullshit :?

feel each others pain not look at statistics.

One person victimized is one too many in my book.

If there had been a well trained citizen to respond to the rape of a young college woman at 6pm
in a heavily populated area of GT a few weeks ago she would not have been brutalized and
one less asshole would be off the streets that would not hurt another young girl....
maybe your daughter, sister, girlfriend....
there I go again trying to make it about real people....

because it is.