Self defense. Woman shoots and kills intruder. 911 audio

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  • CAVSTARR313
    CAVSTARR313 Posts: 8,756
    Senseless, heartless, cold-blooded murder.

    Hope she gets life in prison.
    I have maybe never so strongly disagreed with a post.. respectfully, always..

    What would you tell your mother, wife, daughter or loved one to do in this situation? very curious to hear this...
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  • Smellyman
    Smellyman Asia Posts: 4,528
    good.... this incident and a few others, definitley justify the 100,000 us deaths a year by guns...



    guns FTW!
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    I'm very much against the death penalty.

    But as far as incidents like this go, I support this womans actions. If someone breaks into your house then they deserve whatever they get. If I had a gun and someone broke into my house I'd also shoot the fucker. And if he died then so be it. Though I probably wouldn't aim for his head. I'd like to think I'd aim for his belly or his legs.

    Who's to say his aim was to merely steal her shit? Maybe he intended to rape, beat or kill her. So fuck him.


    Besides, in a scenario like this human nature comes into play. And we can't always control that. It's a grey area, which shouldn't necessarily be mandated by the law.
  • So wait, do guns kill people or do people kill people?
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  • So wait, do guns kill people or do people kill people?

    People with guns kill people.

    People who break into other people's homes while ignoring warning shots kill themselves.
  • So wait, do guns kill people or do people kill people?

    People with guns kill people.

    People who break into other people's homes while ignoring warning shots kill themselves.
    So it's easier to kill people with guns?

    Progun people can't have it both ways (IMO).
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  • So wait, do guns kill people or do people kill people?

    People with guns kill people.

    People who break into other people's homes while ignoring warning shots kill themselves.
    So it's easier to kill people with guns?

    Progun people can't have it both ways (IMO).

    I'm not pro gun.
  • satansbed
    satansbed Posts: 2,139
    pandora wrote:
    the students here at Georgia Tech in downtown Atlanta
    are rallying to carry firearms on campus

    crime is definitely on the rise around the school

    while its all well and good having a gun in your own home, this is just a recipe for disaster
  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    So wait, do guns kill people or do people kill people?


    people USE guns to kill people just as they use knives or even their bare hands.

    Godfather.
  • lukin2006
    lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    satansbed wrote:
    pandora wrote:
    the students here at Georgia Tech in downtown Atlanta
    are rallying to carry firearms on campus

    crime is definitely on the rise around the school

    while its all well and good having a gun in your own home, this is just a recipe for disaster

    Really I know plenty of people who hunt and obviously own guns...
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  • usamamasan1
    usamamasan1 Posts: 4,695
    I hunt. (not really, I shoot/harvest animals on my acreage)
    I own guns.
    I hunt to hone survival skills and marksmanship skills, mostly, to be prepared in the event the grocery store is closed. Dont get me wrong, i love some young doe...
    OR, more importantly, if "shit" hits the fan and some thugs think that the "place with lights on/generators) is a good target.

    I am an American. I will defend.

    I will defend.
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    uhm, did he not act violent? or might someone she knew do that? o,O
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  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    "DH: Yes. Oh God (crying).. I hope it's nobody I know!"


    uhm, did he not act violent? or might someone she knew do that? o,O


    well i guess itd be easier dealing if the person you killed isnt known to you.
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  • usamamasan1
    usamamasan1 Posts: 4,695
    Well, to be fair and balanced, her only flaw was to not:

    Identify the target and what is behind it and THEN destroy it

    But, please amateurs, do not confuse yourself. If you pull a firearm, shoot to kill.
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    Godfather. wrote:
    So wait, do guns kill people or do people kill people?


    people USE guns to kill people just as they use knives or even their bare hands.

    Godfather.

    Except nobody's ever managed to carried out a massacre armed with just a knife. Except maybe Zorro, but he's not real.
  • mikepegg44
    mikepegg44 Posts: 3,353

    She didn't have to kill the guy. Her motives were clearly sinister. She should have shot him in a non-lethal spot, or just let him take what he wanted, as he probably needed it more than she did.

    I know you are entitled to your opinion, and you may really think she was sinister in her motives. I disagree.

    But as to the bold part,

    1st. You always should shoot center mass. You should never pull the trigger in a self defense situation trying to simply hurt someone. they tell you as much in a hand to hand situation as well. If you are forced to fight for you life, you put the other guy down and make sure he stays there...if that means a few extra punches, a little longer on a choke hold, or one in the chest...so be it...the guy shouldn't have been attacking. It isn't the movies, people who have weapons in their homes aren't trained in pressure situations most of the time, things kick in and shooting center mass is the best way to hit the target. This guy put himself in that situation and was killed...it is a tragedy no doubt, but I would say it is worse for the the innocent woman who now has to live with having killed a person because of that persons selfish actions.
    2nd. and most importantly, if the guy wanted to be alive he should have not tried to break into someones house he deemed an easy target. Need doesn't make it ok to steal and terrify.
    I wonder what would have happened if he simply asked this woman for help if he was truly needy...based on his ignoring of the warning shots I would guess he couldn't have cared less about stuff and simply wanted to hurt her...i could be wrong, and you could be right, but I think the odds are in my favor on this one.

    To each his own though I suppose. You could be right, and she could be a cold blooded murderer.
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  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    I hunt. (not really, I shoot/harvest animals on my acreage)
    I own guns.
    I hunt to hone survival skills and marksmanship skills, mostly, to be prepared in the event the grocery store is closed. Dont get me wrong, i love some young doe...
    OR, more importantly, if "shit" hits the fan and some thugs think that the "place with lights on/generators) is a good target.

    I am an American. I will defend.

    I will defend.


    YESSSS !!!!!! :thumbup:

    Godfather.
  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    Byrnzie wrote:
    Godfather. wrote:
    So wait, do guns kill people or do people kill people?


    people USE guns to kill people just as they use knives or even their bare hands.

    Godfather.

    Except nobody's ever managed to carried out a massacre armed with just a knife. Except maybe Zorro, but he's not real.


    yes they have,do a little resurch on that buddy and I bet you find a few examples.

    Godfather.
  • lukin2006
    lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    Godfather. wrote:
    Byrnzie wrote:
    Godfather. wrote:

    people USE guns to kill people just as they use knives or even their bare hands.

    Godfather.

    Except nobody's ever managed to carried out a massacre armed with just a knife. Except maybe Zorro, but he's not real.


    yes they have,do a little resurch on that buddy and I bet you find a few examples.

    Godfather.

    Some examples with a very quick search.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osaka_school_massacre
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akihabara_massacre
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  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    I hunt. (not really, I shoot/harvest animals on my acreage)
    I own guns.
    I hunt to hone survival skills and marksmanship skills, mostly, to be prepared in the event the grocery store is closed. Dont get me wrong, i love some young doe...
    OR, more importantly, if "shit" hits the fan and some thugs think that the "place with lights on/generators) is a good target.

    I am an American. I will defend.

    I will defend.
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