NOt that this is the only thing going on there, but check this out from that article:
Lindsay Personett, a recent graduate in dance performance from Oklahoma City University, was handing out flyers that read “I Owe SallieMae,” and offering a marker to fellow grads who’ve found themselves in debt to the loan giant. “Kids are told to get this expensive degree and you’ll get a job,” she said. “You end up owing too much and owning nothing.”
Who told someone to get a degree in dance performance and expect a job to come easy?
NOt that this is the only thing going on there, but check this out from that article:
Lindsay Personett, a recent graduate in dance performance from Oklahoma City University, was handing out flyers that read “I Owe SallieMae,” and offering a marker to fellow grads who’ve found themselves in debt to the loan giant. “Kids are told to get this expensive degree and you’ll get a job,” she said. “You end up owing too much and owning nothing.”
Who told someone to get a degree in dance performance and expect a job to come easy?
Yep - that's pretty dumb.
Last time I checked, the majority of college students are adults. Just because "kids are told to get an expensive degree" doesn't mean these adults should do that. Take a little responsibility for your actions.
In this day and age, I'm really starting to question the value of a college degree for many professions anyway.
The only people we should try to get even with...
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
NOt that this is the only thing going on there, but check this out from that article:
Lindsay Personett, a recent graduate in dance performance from Oklahoma City University, was handing out flyers that read “I Owe SallieMae,” and offering a marker to fellow grads who’ve found themselves in debt to the loan giant. “Kids are told to get this expensive degree and you’ll get a job,” she said. “You end up owing too much and owning nothing.”
Who told someone to get a degree in dance performance and expect a job to come easy?
This is the funniest part of these things. There's always a bunch of folks involved that don't realize how their personal story HURTS the cause. Dance performance... And my son's going to be a professional ball player. And if that doesn't happen, I'll instruct him to go to a park in Manhattan to tell people they need to pay off his years of paying professional trainers.
Sorry. The world doesn't work the way you tell it to.
This is the funniest part of these things. There's always a bunch of folks involved that don't realize how their personal story HURTS the cause. Dance performance... And my son's going to be a professional ball player. And if that doesn't happen, I'll instruct him to go to a park in Manhattan to tell people they need to pay off his years of paying professional trainers.
your analogy is a poor one.
you can do more than "perform" with a dance degree. you can teach, you can choreograph, you can own your own dance studio, and they teach you more than just how to dance. i am sure that people know that there is not a lot of money in only performing. even if you make it as a chorus girl in vegas. at least people with any sort of a degree have a better chance of finding work than a high school dropout with a ged. AND who says she has to work in the field that her degree is in anyway?
you banking your future on your son "making it" to the big leagues is completely different. for one, he is not paying for education. possibly instruction with coaches and performance enhancers, but i doubt you will be paying for books, room and board, tuition and fees, meal/cafeteria passes, etc... if he plays baseball only and does not go to school he has nothing to fall back on. i have worked with many many professional athletes, and these people are the best of the best. not only that, but they are the luckiest of the lucky. i am confident that there are a lot of people with dance degrees that do have decent jobs.
people are saying the protesters are mad because they have to pay off their loan debt and it is "too bad" and "their own fault". is it really their fault when all their lives they are told to "go to college, get a good education and you can be prepared for the workforce and get yourself a good paying job." that was the american dream. that was how it has been for a few generations now. now we have people graduating and no jobs and they are riddled with debt. it is becoming the american nightmare. and people on here are laughing at them and condemning them for being fucking pissed off about it??? wake up america. this is your new reality.
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"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
i am confident that there are a lot of people with dance degrees that do have decent jobs.
I'm sure there are. I'm also sure there are way more graduates than jobs available in this field regardless of what the economy looks like at any point in time.
Anyhow, it's just 1 person, but I found it funny. Didn't teach common sense at that school apparently.
It's great to pursue your dream, but accept the challenges that come with it.
I think they should focus on one thing, and this one thing only:
end corpotate influence over politics / lobbying / "crony capitalism" / tax breaks/loopholes
this is the one thing that progressives, libertarians AND conservatives will all agree with and support.
that means not just ending the backroom deals, letting corporations write legislative bills / have influence over policy, and the military-industrial complex. it also means ending the politically-motivated financial grants (hello, Solyndra) and programs (that means you, ACORN & Fannie/Freddie).
you know, let the free market actually be FREE.
regulate to a sensible level: no thousand page, cover-everyones ass regulatory documents written by some unelected bureaucrat in one of those monstrosity administrative departments. but also, sound the goddamn alarm bells when the next credit default swap / mortgage-backed securities "technically it's not illegal (only because it's brand new), but it sure seems like it SHOULD be" thing comes along.
that actually WILL get you 99% support
but if you go on with the "all corporations are evil" / "capitalism doesn't work" crap (especially as you live tweet the protesting from your smartphone), people are gonna lose interest REAL quick.
I think they should focus on one thing, and this one thing only:
end corpotate influence over politics / lobbying / "crony capitalism" / tax breaks/loopholes
this is the one thing that progressives, libertarians AND conservatives will all agree with and support.
that means not just ending the backroom deals, letting corporations write legislative bills / have influence over policy, and the military-industrial complex. it also means ending the politically-motivated financial grants (hello, Solyndra) and programs (that means you, ACORN & Fannie/Freddie).
you know, let the free market actually be FREE.
regulate to a sensible level: no thousand page, cover-everyones ass regulatory documents written by some unelected bureaucrat in one of those monstrosity administrative departments. but also, sound the goddamn alarm bells when the next credit default swap / mortgage-backed securities "technically it's not illegal (only because it's brand new), but it sure seems like it SHOULD be" thing comes along.
that actually WILL get you 99% support
but if you go on with the "all corporations are evil" / "capitalism doesn't work" crap (especially as you live tweet the protesting from your smartphone), people are gonna lose interest REAL quick.
You make too much sense. How'd you end up here?
Sorry. The world doesn't work the way you tell it to.
NOt that this is the only thing going on there, but check this out from that article:
Lindsay Personett, a recent graduate in dance performance from Oklahoma City University, was handing out flyers that read “I Owe SallieMae,” and offering a marker to fellow grads who’ve found themselves in debt to the loan giant. “Kids are told to get this expensive degree and you’ll get a job,” she said. “You end up owing too much and owning nothing.”
Who told someone to get a degree in dance performance and expect a job to come easy?
I'm not saying she shouldn't be responsible for the choices she's made but our society/culture rams it down our throats that a college degree is this amazing thing that leads to a fulfilling career and a comfortable living. This is often not the case, however. I think its institutionalized and many people out of college do have a very warped sense of "the real world".
"First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win ."
NOt that this is the only thing going on there, but check this out from that article:
Lindsay Personett, a recent graduate in dance performance from Oklahoma City University, was handing out flyers that read “I Owe SallieMae,” and offering a marker to fellow grads who’ve found themselves in debt to the loan giant. “Kids are told to get this expensive degree and you’ll get a job,” she said. “You end up owing too much and owning nothing.”
Who told someone to get a degree in dance performance and expect a job to come easy?
I'm not saying she shouldn't be responsible for the choices she's made but our society/culture rams it down our throats that a college degree is this amazing thing that leads to a fulfilling career and a comfortable living. This is often not the case, however. I think its institutionalized and many people out of college do have a very warped sense of "the real world".
Sept 2011 unemployment rate for those with a Bachelor's degree and higher is 4.2%
I love how that blowhard dumb biatch Pelosi rambles she loves that it's so spontaneous. Really Nancy???? This shit was planned as far back as March if not earlier to disrupt and or or to destroy institutions!!
Half of these dumbasses protesting don't know what they're protesting, some speak no English, some holding signs in English but can't read em, and some getting PAID to protest. Also, throw in the UNIONS (SEIU) and ACORN and you have a bullshit protest meant to only cause anarchy and put blame on someone else. These fuckers piss me off.
I love how that blowhard dumb biatch Pelosi rambles she loves that it's so spontaneous. Really Nancy???? This shit was planned as far back as March if not earlier to disrupt and or or to destroy institutions!!
Half of these dumbasses protesting don't know what they're protesting, some speak no English, some holding signs in English but can't read em, and some getting PAID to protest. Also, throw in the UNIONS (SEIU) and ACORN and you have a bullshit protest meant to only cause anarchy and put blame on someone else. These fuckers piss me off.
glad you are posting sources allied with corporate owned media. these corporations are the same ones being protested, so of course they are going to convey that message to you.
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
I love how that blowhard dumb biatch Pelosi rambles she loves that it's so spontaneous. Really Nancy???? This shit was planned as far back as March if not earlier to disrupt and or or to destroy institutions!!
Half of these dumbasses protesting don't know what they're protesting, some speak no English, some holding signs in English but can't read em, and some getting PAID to protest. Also, throw in the UNIONS (SEIU) and ACORN and you have a bullshit protest meant to only cause anarchy and put blame on someone else. These fuckers piss me off.
glad you are posting sources allied with corporate owned media. these corporations are the same ones being protested, so of course they are going to convey that message to you.
Wow, that was your response?? So Lerners plan is all made up? LOL. WOW, more delusional than I could possibly imagine.... Is this link okay or is Youtube one of the sources allied with corporate owned media and conveying a message to me? :roll:
I love how that blowhard dumb biatch Pelosi rambles she loves that it's so spontaneous. Really Nancy???? This shit was planned as far back as March if not earlier to disrupt and or or to destroy institutions!!
Half of these dumbasses protesting don't know what they're protesting, some speak no English, some holding signs in English but can't read em, and some getting PAID to protest. Also, throw in the UNIONS (SEIU) and ACORN and you have a bullshit protest meant to only cause anarchy and put blame on someone else. These fuckers piss me off.
Get a god damn clue before opening your mouth/writing a post. Even my friends who work on Wall St. agree with the protestors.
These "fuckers" piss you off? Well guess what, asshole, I am one of those fuckers. And I hope I piss you off every fucking day, cocksucker.
And to all a good night!!!!!!
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There still seem to be huge misconceptions about OWS. As I mentioned elsewhere, I just talked with a guy today who got canned by a corporation, has been struggling ever since, still holds the corporation in awe, says he knows what's going on because he watches "the news", that almost all the protesters don't know what the are protesting, that they are mostly kids looking for a free hand out, that after several days they "must be ripe [smelling]". Sheesh! Apparently, this is what "the news" is telling people. Anybody who has seriously followed this knows how false those accusations are.
Thank you to the brave OWS souls! (I wish I could join you.)
"Pretty cookies, heart squares all around, yeah!" -Eddie Vedder, "Smile"
I love how that blowhard dumb biatch Pelosi rambles she loves that it's so spontaneous. Really Nancy???? This shit was planned as far back as March if not earlier to disrupt and or or to destroy institutions!!
Half of these dumbasses protesting don't know what they're protesting, some speak no English, some holding signs in English but can't read em, and some getting PAID to protest. Also, throw in the UNIONS (SEIU) and ACORN and you have a bullshit protest meant to only cause anarchy and put blame on someone else. These fuckers piss me off.
I love how that blowhard dumb biatch Pelosi rambles she loves that it's so spontaneous. Really Nancy???? This shit was planned as far back as March if not earlier to disrupt and or or to destroy institutions!!
Half of these dumbasses protesting don't know what they're protesting, some speak no English, some holding signs in English but can't read em, and some getting PAID to protest. Also, throw in the UNIONS (SEIU) and ACORN and you have a bullshit protest meant to only cause anarchy and put blame on someone else. These fuckers piss me off.
Get a god damn clue before opening your mouth/writing a post. Even my friends who work on Wall St. agree with the protestors.
These "fuckers" piss you off? Well guess what, asshole, I am one of those fuckers. And I hope I piss you off every fucking day, cocksucker.
And to all a good night!!!!!!
Seriously, man? You got to call people "cocksuckers?" because they disagree with you.
This is exactly what's wrong with this place. No one wants a dialogue with the opposition. Tolerance... ha ha.
I suspect his use if the word cocksuckers was in response to DragonsAfter3or4 referring to the protest as a 'bullshit protest', and to the protestors as 'these dumbasses', and 'these fuckers'.
I love how that blowhard dumb biatch Pelosi rambles she loves that it's so spontaneous. Really Nancy???? This shit was planned as far back as March if not earlier to disrupt and or or to destroy institutions!!
Half of these dumbasses protesting don't know what they're protesting, some speak no English, some holding signs in English but can't read em, and some getting PAID to protest. Also, throw in the UNIONS (SEIU) and ACORN and you have a bullshit protest meant to only cause anarchy and put blame on someone else. These fuckers piss me off.
I love how that blowhard dumb biatch Pelosi rambles she loves that it's so spontaneous. Really Nancy???? This shit was planned as far back as March if not earlier to disrupt and or or to destroy institutions!!
Half of these dumbasses protesting don't know what they're protesting, some speak no English, some holding signs in English but can't read em, and some getting PAID to protest. Also, throw in the UNIONS (SEIU) and ACORN and you have a bullshit protest meant to only cause anarchy and put blame on someone else. These fuckers piss me off.
I know what I am protesting and I speak English. Do you want to have a conversation and discuss our differences of do you want to just throw insults? There are more people who think like me than there are that.think like you so be careful what you want to get into here....
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
I love how that blowhard dumb biatch Pelosi rambles she loves that it's so spontaneous. Really Nancy???? This shit was planned as far back as March if not earlier to disrupt and or or to destroy institutions!!
Half of these dumbasses protesting don't know what they're protesting, some speak no English, some holding signs in English but can't read em, and some getting PAID to protest. Also, throw in the UNIONS (SEIU) and ACORN and you have a bullshit protest meant to only cause anarchy and put blame on someone else. These fuckers piss me off.
Get a god damn clue before opening your mouth/writing a post. Even my friends who work on Wall St. agree with the protestors.
These "fuckers" piss you off? Well guess what, asshole, I am one of those fuckers. And I hope I piss you off every fucking day, cocksucker.
And to all a good night!!!!!!
WOW I had to check the name again, thought I was reading a post from Dorkness..........
“We the people are the rightful masters of bothCongress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.” Abraham Lincoln
Democrats and Establishment Unions Plan to Hijack OWS This Week
Kurt Nimmo
Infowars.com
October 3, 2011
Despite the sincerity of most Occupy Wall Street protesters and their desire to close down Wall Street and even the Federal Reserve, the movement is quickly becoming a catch-all for socialists and large unions determined to tax millionaires out of existence.
On Sunday, Crain’s wrote that the “ragtag collection of no-name protesters” will be joined this week by “experienced agitators” and a coalition of labor and community groups. The United Federation of Teachers, SEIU, Workers United, Transport Workers Union Local 100 and the Communications Workers of America are all expected to exploit Occupy Wall Street this week to push their agenda.
In 2009, SEIU thugs beat a Tea Party activist in St. Louis. SEIU president Andy Stern was appointed to Obama’s National Commission on Fiscal Responsibility and Reform.
Unions are working to direct the energy of the anti-banker protests into their leftist agenda. “The challenge is, how do you transfer protest into power?” asked Robert Master, legislative and political director of the Communications Workers of America and a co-chair of the Working Families Party. “At the end of the day, you have to figure out a way to take this energy and turn it into legislation that really changes people’s lives.”
The Working Families Party is an ACORN front. ACORN enthusiastically supported the election of Obama, although this is supposedly not allowed under its non-profit 501(c)(3) tax status.
In addition to establishment unions, self-described progressive community groups and other foundation dependent organizations plan to exploit Occupy Wall Street’s momentum. In addition to Make the Road New York, the Coalition for the Homeless, the Alliance for Quality Education, Community Voices Heard, United New York and Strong Economy For All, Paul Joseph Watson reports today that the Soros funded group MoveOn.org plans to attend the demonstrations.
MoveOn.org endorsed Obama in 2008. It fundraised and organized for his campaign “and has become perhaps the lead lobby organization for his policies in 2009, apart from Obama’s own Organizing for America,” according to SourceWatch. It teamed up with the unions SEIU and AFSCME to pressure Republicans to vote for Obama’s pro-Wall Street policies. It spent $30 million during the 2008 election cycle to get establishment Democrats elected.
Most of the so-called community groups listed above support the Millionaire’s Tax, an idea cooked up by the Obama administration after Warren Buffett declared the rich do not pay enough taxes and urged the government to steal more money from millionaires. As I noted yesterday, such taxation schemes invariably “trickle down” to the middle and working classes and usually result in unemployment as businesses either cut back or close down.
After the foundation funded and Democrat supported unions and so-called community groups dilute or takeover the Occupy Wall Street movement, calls for reforming Wall Street and eliminating the Federal Reserve – at present a minority voice in the movement – will be overwhelmed by the same old “progressive” Democrat agenda.
Like the Libertarians behind the original Tea Party movement, the Occupy Wall Street activists who sincerely demand change on Wall Street and in the dominant financial sector will be driven from the movement and replaced by socialist apparatchiks and Democrats funded by Soros and establishment foundations.
Unions and progressives have no intention of reforming Wall Street, as a quick glance at the Obama administration dominated by Goldman Sachs, the CFR, and the Trilateral Commission reveals what the Democrat version of “change” is all about.
Michael Moore admitted that “far left” socialists and Democrats are working to eliminate capitalism and turn America into another third-world cesspool. Not surprisingly, he said ending the Federal Reserve is irrelevant.
Of course he would say that. Moore is a tool of the bankers who will now work tirelessly behind the scenes to dilute the OWS movement and turn it into another irrelevancy and circus sideshow demanding implementation of the same old tired socialist palliatives that only allow the global elite to centralize and consolidate their grip on humanity.
I love how that blowhard dumb biatch Pelosi rambles she loves that it's so spontaneous. Really Nancy???? This shit was planned as far back as March if not earlier to disrupt and or or to destroy institutions!! Half of these dumbasses protesting don't know what they're protesting, some speak no English, some holding signs in English but can't read em, and some getting PAID to protest. Also, throw in the UNIONS (SEIU) and ACORN and you have a bullshit protest meant to only cause anarchy and put blame on someone else. These fuckers piss me off.
I know what I am protesting and I speak English. Do you want to have a conversation and discuss our differences of do you want to just throw insults? There are more people who think like me than there are that.think like you so be careful what you want to get into here....
I love how that blowhard dumb biatch Pelosi rambles she loves that it's so spontaneous. Really Nancy???? This shit was planned as far back as March if not earlier to disrupt and or or to destroy institutions!! Half of these dumbasses protesting don't know what they're protesting, some speak no English, some holding signs in English but can't read em, and some getting PAID to protest. Also, throw in the UNIONS (SEIU) and ACORN and you have a bullshit protest meant to only cause anarchy and put blame on someone else. These fuckers piss me off.
I know what I am protesting and I speak English. Do you want to have a conversation and discuss our differences of do you want to just throw insults? There are more people who think like me than there are that.think like you so be careful what you want to get into here....
Looks like you got your answer, gimme. Some people just like to bate others.
Ahhh it's baiting because I have a different opinion and showed an actual video of crazy people. Hmmmm. oh and it's "bait" not bate, tho I do that too
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Meanwhile, back to constructive dialogue...
I was talking with some friends yesterday about the recent comparisons of OWS and the Vietnam War protests. Back then the protest often turned violent. These things would spring up out of nowhere and get ugly really fast. I remember walking from the dorms to class one day only to find the entire quad jammed with protestors- one of those spur of the moment things I guess because none of us had heard about it- and suddenly, at the open end of the quad a very large group of mounted police approached with clubs ready. This was normal and it was ugly- heads got busted. A friend of mine who was trying to go about his business and edge around things got busted up. A lot of people got hurt. I supported those protests because of what they were about but I didn't support the violence- on either side.
Today we are seeing protests that are generally much more peaceful. That's encouraging to see.
"Pretty cookies, heart squares all around, yeah!" -Eddie Vedder, "Smile"
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http://www.alternet.org/story/152622/th ... age=entire
NOt that this is the only thing going on there, but check this out from that article:
Lindsay Personett, a recent graduate in dance performance from Oklahoma City University, was handing out flyers that read “I Owe SallieMae,” and offering a marker to fellow grads who’ve found themselves in debt to the loan giant. “Kids are told to get this expensive degree and you’ll get a job,” she said. “You end up owing too much and owning nothing.”
Who told someone to get a degree in dance performance and expect a job to come easy?
Yep - that's pretty dumb.
Last time I checked, the majority of college students are adults. Just because "kids are told to get an expensive degree" doesn't mean these adults should do that. Take a little responsibility for your actions.
In this day and age, I'm really starting to question the value of a college degree for many professions anyway.
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
This is the funniest part of these things. There's always a bunch of folks involved that don't realize how their personal story HURTS the cause. Dance performance... And my son's going to be a professional ball player. And if that doesn't happen, I'll instruct him to go to a park in Manhattan to tell people they need to pay off his years of paying professional trainers.
you can do more than "perform" with a dance degree. you can teach, you can choreograph, you can own your own dance studio, and they teach you more than just how to dance. i am sure that people know that there is not a lot of money in only performing. even if you make it as a chorus girl in vegas. at least people with any sort of a degree have a better chance of finding work than a high school dropout with a ged. AND who says she has to work in the field that her degree is in anyway?
you banking your future on your son "making it" to the big leagues is completely different. for one, he is not paying for education. possibly instruction with coaches and performance enhancers, but i doubt you will be paying for books, room and board, tuition and fees, meal/cafeteria passes, etc... if he plays baseball only and does not go to school he has nothing to fall back on. i have worked with many many professional athletes, and these people are the best of the best. not only that, but they are the luckiest of the lucky. i am confident that there are a lot of people with dance degrees that do have decent jobs.
people are saying the protesters are mad because they have to pay off their loan debt and it is "too bad" and "their own fault". is it really their fault when all their lives they are told to "go to college, get a good education and you can be prepared for the workforce and get yourself a good paying job." that was the american dream. that was how it has been for a few generations now. now we have people graduating and no jobs and they are riddled with debt. it is becoming the american nightmare. and people on here are laughing at them and condemning them for being fucking pissed off about it??? wake up america. this is your new reality.
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
I'm sure there are. I'm also sure there are way more graduates than jobs available in this field regardless of what the economy looks like at any point in time.
Anyhow, it's just 1 person, but I found it funny. Didn't teach common sense at that school apparently.
It's great to pursue your dream, but accept the challenges that come with it.
end corpotate influence over politics / lobbying / "crony capitalism" / tax breaks/loopholes
this is the one thing that progressives, libertarians AND conservatives will all agree with and support.
that means not just ending the backroom deals, letting corporations write legislative bills / have influence over policy, and the military-industrial complex. it also means ending the politically-motivated financial grants (hello, Solyndra) and programs (that means you, ACORN & Fannie/Freddie).
you know, let the free market actually be FREE.
regulate to a sensible level: no thousand page, cover-everyones ass regulatory documents written by some unelected bureaucrat in one of those monstrosity administrative departments. but also, sound the goddamn alarm bells when the next credit default swap / mortgage-backed securities "technically it's not illegal (only because it's brand new), but it sure seems like it SHOULD be" thing comes along.
that actually WILL get you 99% support
but if you go on with the "all corporations are evil" / "capitalism doesn't work" crap (especially as you live tweet the protesting from your smartphone), people are gonna lose interest REAL quick.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/07/opini ... yt&emc=rss
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
You make too much sense. How'd you end up here?
I'm not saying she shouldn't be responsible for the choices she's made but our society/culture rams it down our throats that a college degree is this amazing thing that leads to a fulfilling career and a comfortable living. This is often not the case, however. I think its institutionalized and many people out of college do have a very warped sense of "the real world".
"With our thoughts we make the world"
Sept 2011 unemployment rate for those with a Bachelor's degree and higher is 4.2%
http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.t04.htm
sure, they're not all "fulfilled" and "comfortable"...but they have a CHANCE to be
capitalism doesn't garauntee success. it garauntees the OPPORTUNITY for success
Half of these dumbasses protesting don't know what they're protesting, some speak no English, some holding signs in English but can't read em, and some getting PAID to protest. Also, throw in the UNIONS (SEIU) and ACORN and you have a bullshit protest meant to only cause anarchy and put blame on someone else. These fuckers piss me off.
http://www.businessinsider.com/seiu-uni ... y-jpmorgan
http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.ph ... w.facebook
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
Wow, that was your response?? So Lerners plan is all made up? LOL. WOW, more delusional than I could possibly imagine.... Is this link okay or is Youtube one of the sources allied with corporate owned media and conveying a message to me? :roll:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0PlElVWshk
'Canada Free Press - Because without America there is no free World'?
What is this bullsh*t?
Edit: Ah, I see: 'Espousing Conservative viewpoints, cornerstone of which contain love of God, love of family, love of country...'
In other words, a webpage for people who love abstract ideals.
Get a god damn clue before opening your mouth/writing a post. Even my friends who work on Wall St. agree with the protestors.
These "fuckers" piss you off? Well guess what, asshole, I am one of those fuckers. And I hope I piss you off every fucking day, cocksucker.
And to all a good night!!!!!!
Thank you to the brave OWS souls! (I wish I could join you.)
-Eddie Vedder, "Smile"
Seriously, man? You got to call people "cocksuckers?" because they disagree with you.
This is exactly what's wrong with this place. No one wants a dialogue with the opposition. Tolerance... ha ha.
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I suspect his use if the word cocksuckers was in response to DragonsAfter3or4 referring to the protest as a 'bullshit protest', and to the protestors as 'these dumbasses', and 'these fuckers'.
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
WOW I had to check the name again, thought I was reading a post from Dorkness..........
Democrats and Establishment Unions Plan to Hijack OWS This Week
Kurt Nimmo
Infowars.com
October 3, 2011
Despite the sincerity of most Occupy Wall Street protesters and their desire to close down Wall Street and even the Federal Reserve, the movement is quickly becoming a catch-all for socialists and large unions determined to tax millionaires out of existence.
On Sunday, Crain’s wrote that the “ragtag collection of no-name protesters” will be joined this week by “experienced agitators” and a coalition of labor and community groups. The United Federation of Teachers, SEIU, Workers United, Transport Workers Union Local 100 and the Communications Workers of America are all expected to exploit Occupy Wall Street this week to push their agenda.
In 2009, SEIU thugs beat a Tea Party activist in St. Louis. SEIU president Andy Stern was appointed to Obama’s National Commission on Fiscal Responsibility and Reform.
Unions are working to direct the energy of the anti-banker protests into their leftist agenda. “The challenge is, how do you transfer protest into power?” asked Robert Master, legislative and political director of the Communications Workers of America and a co-chair of the Working Families Party. “At the end of the day, you have to figure out a way to take this energy and turn it into legislation that really changes people’s lives.”
The Working Families Party is an ACORN front. ACORN enthusiastically supported the election of Obama, although this is supposedly not allowed under its non-profit 501(c)(3) tax status.
In addition to establishment unions, self-described progressive community groups and other foundation dependent organizations plan to exploit Occupy Wall Street’s momentum. In addition to Make the Road New York, the Coalition for the Homeless, the Alliance for Quality Education, Community Voices Heard, United New York and Strong Economy For All, Paul Joseph Watson reports today that the Soros funded group MoveOn.org plans to attend the demonstrations.
MoveOn.org endorsed Obama in 2008. It fundraised and organized for his campaign “and has become perhaps the lead lobby organization for his policies in 2009, apart from Obama’s own Organizing for America,” according to SourceWatch. It teamed up with the unions SEIU and AFSCME to pressure Republicans to vote for Obama’s pro-Wall Street policies. It spent $30 million during the 2008 election cycle to get establishment Democrats elected.
Most of the so-called community groups listed above support the Millionaire’s Tax, an idea cooked up by the Obama administration after Warren Buffett declared the rich do not pay enough taxes and urged the government to steal more money from millionaires. As I noted yesterday, such taxation schemes invariably “trickle down” to the middle and working classes and usually result in unemployment as businesses either cut back or close down.
After the foundation funded and Democrat supported unions and so-called community groups dilute or takeover the Occupy Wall Street movement, calls for reforming Wall Street and eliminating the Federal Reserve – at present a minority voice in the movement – will be overwhelmed by the same old “progressive” Democrat agenda.
Like the Libertarians behind the original Tea Party movement, the Occupy Wall Street activists who sincerely demand change on Wall Street and in the dominant financial sector will be driven from the movement and replaced by socialist apparatchiks and Democrats funded by Soros and establishment foundations.
Unions and progressives have no intention of reforming Wall Street, as a quick glance at the Obama administration dominated by Goldman Sachs, the CFR, and the Trilateral Commission reveals what the Democrat version of “change” is all about.
Michael Moore admitted that “far left” socialists and Democrats are working to eliminate capitalism and turn America into another third-world cesspool. Not surprisingly, he said ending the Federal Reserve is irrelevant.
Of course he would say that. Moore is a tool of the bankers who will now work tirelessly behind the scenes to dilute the OWS movement and turn it into another irrelevancy and circus sideshow demanding implementation of the same old tired socialist palliatives that only allow the global elite to centralize and consolidate their grip on humanity.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QZlp3eGMNI
Looks like you got your answer, gimme. Some people just like to bate others.
-Eddie Vedder, "Smile"
Ahhh it's baiting because I have a different opinion and showed an actual video of crazy people. Hmmmm. oh and it's "bait" not bate, tho I do that too
I was talking with some friends yesterday about the recent comparisons of OWS and the Vietnam War protests. Back then the protest often turned violent. These things would spring up out of nowhere and get ugly really fast. I remember walking from the dorms to class one day only to find the entire quad jammed with protestors- one of those spur of the moment things I guess because none of us had heard about it- and suddenly, at the open end of the quad a very large group of mounted police approached with clubs ready. This was normal and it was ugly- heads got busted. A friend of mine who was trying to go about his business and edge around things got busted up. A lot of people got hurt. I supported those protests because of what they were about but I didn't support the violence- on either side.
Today we are seeing protests that are generally much more peaceful. That's encouraging to see.
-Eddie Vedder, "Smile"
http://www.cnn.com/2011/10/15/world/occ ... ?hpt=hp_t2
Occupy protests spread around the world; 70 injured in Rome - CNN.com
By Faith Karimi and Joe Sterling , CNN
2011-10-15T05:55:18Z
Are you attending or covering the protests? Send us your photos and videos, and follow the worldwide
movement on Open Story.
(CNN) -- Thousands of people across the world railed against corporate power, grinding poverty and
government cuts Saturday as the Occupy Wall Street movement spread to the streets of Europe, Asia and
Australia -- and took a particularly violent turn in Rome.
Firefighters battled a blaze at an Interior Ministry building near Porta San Giovanni in Rome, the main
gathering site of the Italian protesters taking part in the Occupy movement Saturday, said eyewitnesses who
reported seeing a Molotov cocktail thrown near the building.
A spokesman for Mayor Gianni Alemanno, who condemned the violence, confirmed 70 people were injured,
40 of them police officers. No arrest numbers were available late Saturday.
Police said hundreds of anarchists in Rome moved in where peaceful demonstrators had gathered as part of
the global Occupy movement. The anarchists -- some wearing ski masks and belonging to a group termed
"Black Bloc" -- torched cars, broke windows and clashed with police.
"It's been completely hijacked by these violent factions, and the police are nervous, and the situation is very
tense," Barbie Nadeau, a Newsweek correspondent, told CNN. "I myself saw at least -- I would say -- a
dozen people who probably needed some hospitalization or some care -- some stitches certainly."
Two police officers were seriously injured and two young men lost parts of their hands in explosions when
protesters torched cars, she said.
In London, protester Peter Vaughn, reflecting the mood of many in the crowd there, said people criticized
financial institutions that have "gambled away our money."
"We're giving people a real voice against a government that just ignored us," he said.
One protester in Belleville, France, referring to the country's leaders, said government isn't listening to the
people and dialogue with them is impossible.
"You are not listening to us, whatever we do, however we vote, however we demonstrate. It does not give
any result. Quite the opposite, as poverty and austerity plans continue. So we can't go on like this so we are
getting out and showing ourselves," he said.
The protests spread amid the growing financial crises for several Western countries. Finance ministers
with the Group of 20, meeting in Paris, pledged Saturday to take "all necessary actions" to stabilize global
markets and ensure that banks are well capitalized.
Europeans turned out amid debt troubles and austerity plans in Greece, Belgium, Italy, Spain, Ireland,
Portugal and Germany.
United for Global Change -- the central site for the movement organizing worldwide protests -- said 951 cities
in 82 countries were to take part in the demonstrations after online organizers called for a worldwide rally.
More than 10,000 demonstrators of all ages gathered peacefully in Madrid's spacious Plaza de Cibeles on
Saturday and than walked uphill to Puerta del Sol. The "May 15 Movement" started five months ago to the
day over austerity measures and high unemployment. Some demonstrators said they felt Spain's protest had
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gone global and that the world had joined the movement started in their country. The newspaper El Pais said
tens of thousands of protesters turned out in Barcelona.
Around the world, protesters marched, listened to speeches, and displayed banners reading anti-corporate
slogans, including the now ubiquitous "we are the 99%," "Banks are cancer" and tax the rich 1%."
The vandalism that erupted in Rome angered peaceful protesters. There were car fires and masked people
breaking windows at banks and stores, where many thousands faced a large police presence. Firefighters
were working to contain the blaze and the tensions calmed down in the evening hours. But the echo of
Molotov cocktails could be heard and a lingering cloud of black smoke could be seen, Nadeau told CNN.
In Germany, police used pepper spray on two protesters who crossed beyond police lines.
Still, the demonstrations across the world were peaceful overall, inspired by the protests in the United States.
In London, WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange spoke to demonstrators. The demonstrations are contained to
an area in front of St. Paul's Cathedral. There have also been three arrests, two for assault on police.
"What is happening here today is a culmination of greed that many people all over the world have worked
towards from Cairo to London," Assange said.
Tens of thousands demonstrated in German cities, witnesses said. Peaceful protests with a festive
atmosphere blended with a mood of anger toward big business, where demonstrators carried signs saying
"Goldman Sucks," "Eat Cash," "People should not be afraid of their government," and "The government
should be afraid of their people."
"They are stealing our rights," one banner read at a demonstration of several thousand people in Madrid.
Canadians turned out in Toronto, with placards jutting up from a crowd saying "Arrest the 1%" and "Stop
ignoring the youth, we are your tomorrow." A sign on a dog said "99% against (corporate) fat cats."
Retired businessman Wong Chi Keung, in Hong Kong, said, "We should not let the banks get away with
being big bullies."
Debbie Chen works for a group protesting against Apple's treatment of its workers in China.
"As the world's most valuable company they earn the lion's share while the workers on the production line
earn only 1% of the selling price of an iPhone. We hope there can be more even distribution of profits," she
said.
About 200 people marched through Tokyo carrying various signs, including "No More Nukes and "Free
Tibet." The crowd included children jumping and skipping behind the adults. Some protesters wore costumes
-- including a giant panda.
"I'm here because young Japanese people are suffering for losing their jobs, but not many speak out their
issue to the public," said Kesao Murakami. "I really want young people to appeal forcefully to the public
saying, 'We are in trouble.' "
In the Indonesian capital of Jakarta, about two dozen people -- some wearing masks -- gathered near the
U.S. Embassy.
"We wanted to show that the American regime, its system of imperialism needs to be destroyed," said Rudi
Daman, leader of the International League of Peoples' Struggle.
The group urged its chapters to stage a global day of action against "imperialist plunder, repression and war."
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Australian cities of Melbourne and Sydney joined rallies against "corporate greed" as protesters aligned
themselves with the global movement.
"Our protests are to show our solidarity with Occupy Wall Street and also protest various problems -- from
indigenous issues in this country to government problems," said Alex Gard, one of the Melbourne organizers.
"We know we have it better than the protesters in the States ... but there are still problems in this country."
Organizers urged protesters to bring sleeping bags and other soft items to sleep on.
"I've heard people say they plan to be there for days, even months," Gard said.
Organizers worldwide started social media pages on Facebook and Twitter devoted to "October 15" — #O15
on Twitter — urging protesters to join the global call for protests.
The worldwide movement is galvanized by the Occupy Wall Street movement started last month as a
backlash against the economy and what demonstrators say is an out-of-touch corporate, financial and
political elite.
Occupy Wall Street organizers say they are inspired by the Arab Spring that led to the toppling of regimes in
Tunisia and Egypt.
The founding movement in the United States has spread to other major cities in the nation.
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