I prefer trying to earn a better future for myself and my family/friends rather than asking those that already have an unfair tax burden to pay for a "fair share".
...For those of you who got a raw deal, sorry. That's life. Sometimes you can do everything within your means/skills/ambitions and still lose. Not everyone can win....
you know what? youre right. not everyone can win.. not within the current capitalist structure. and thats why it needs to change. capitalism was never about fairness or equality or looking after your fellow man.. it was/is about maximum profits. if people get stepped on to do that, then so be it. i say feed the rich to the starving and redistribute the wealth.. that way we kill 2 birds with 1 stone.
I prefer trying to earn a better future for myself and my family/friends rather than asking those that already have an unfair tax burden to pay for a "fair share".
wages stagnate for 40 years and you think tha'ts fair?
you should join us man.
this is the beginning of the beginning.
one step at a time.
and it will fall. this movement is gonna fight for a justice that won't hurt anyone. it might tax some fuckers with billions to spend but it won't hurt anyone.
...For those of you who got a raw deal, sorry. That's life. Sometimes you can do everything within your means/skills/ambitions and still lose. Not everyone can win....
you know what? youre right. not everyone can win.. not within the current capitalist structure. and thats why it needs to change. capitalism was never about fairness or equality or looking after your fellow man.. it was/is about maximum profits. if people get stepped on to do that, then so be it. i say feed the rich to the starving and redistribute the wealth.. that way we kill 2 birds with 1 stone.
Again, don't be like that. It's grade school to call me a troll every time I disagree with your socialist everybody is the same posts. It's getting old that you like to speak into an echo chamber.
Again, don't be like that. It's grade school to call me a troll every time I disagree with your socialist everybody is the same posts. It's getting old that you like to speak into an echo chamber.
Again, don't be like that. It's grade school to call me a troll every time I disagree with your socialist everybody is the same posts. It's getting old that you like to speak into an echo chamber.
Again, don't be like that. It's grade school to call me a troll every time I disagree with your socialist everybody is the same posts. It's getting old that you like to speak into an echo chamber.
kind of like you have bashed ows at every chance you had in this thread. posting all of the pics of the worst things have happened in a handful of cities, characterizing all of the protestors as purposely jobless, lazy, vindictive, and dirty people, laughing and joking about innocent people getting beaten and pepper sprayed...you were being provocative in those posts and you were baiting people. that is the definition of trolling.
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
Again, don't be like that. It's grade school to call me a troll every time I disagree with your socialist everybody is the same posts. It's getting old that you like to speak into an echo chamber.
agreed/.
Thanks. Honestly, appreciate it.
see man, not everyone is against you. join us in occupy. this movement is on your side.
The 1% are the very best destroyers of wealth the world has ever seen
Our common treasury in the last 30 years has been captured by industrial psychopaths. That's why we're nearly bankrupt
George Monbiot
guardian.co.uk, Monday 7 November 2011
If wealth was the inevitable result of hard work and enterprise, every woman in Africa would be a millionaire. The claims that the ultra-rich 1% make for themselves – that they are possessed of unique intelligence or creativity or drive – are examples of the self-attribution fallacy. This means crediting yourself with outcomes for which you weren't responsible. Many of those who are rich today got there because they were able to capture certain jobs. This capture owes less to talent and intelligence than to a combination of the ruthless exploitation of others and accidents of birth, as such jobs are taken disproportionately by people born in certain places and into certain classes.
The findings of the psychologist Daniel Kahneman, winner of a Nobel economics prize, are devastating to the beliefs that financial high-fliers entertain about themselves. He discovered that their apparent success is a cognitive illusion. For example, he studied the results achieved by 25 wealth advisers across eight years. He found that the consistency of their performance was zero. "The results resembled what you would expect from a dice-rolling contest, not a game of skill." Those who received the biggest bonuses had simply got lucky.
Such results have been widely replicated. They show that traders and fund managers throughout Wall Street receive their massive remuneration for doing no better than would a chimpanzee flipping a coin. When Kahneman tried to point this out, they blanked him. "The illusion of skill … is deeply ingrained in their culture."
So much for the financial sector and its super-educated analysts. As for other kinds of business, you tell me. Is your boss possessed of judgment, vision and management skills superior to those of anyone else in the firm, or did he or she get there through bluff, bullshit and bullying?
In a study published by the journal Psychology, Crime and Law, Belinda Board and Katarina Fritzon tested 39 senior managers and chief executives from leading British businesses. They compared the results to the same tests on patients at Broadmoor special hospital, where people who have been convicted of serious crimes are incarcerated. On certain indicators of psychopathy, the bosses's scores either matched or exceeded those of the patients. In fact, on these criteria, they beat even the subset of patients who had been diagnosed with psychopathic personality disorders.
The psychopathic traits on which the bosses scored so highly, Board and Fritzon point out, closely resemble the characteristics that companies look for. Those who have these traits often possess great skill in flattering and manipulating powerful people. Egocentricity, a strong sense of entitlement, a readiness to exploit others and a lack of empathy and conscience are also unlikely to damage their prospects in many corporations.
In their book Snakes in Suits, Paul Babiak and Robert Hare point out that as the old corporate bureaucracies have been replaced by flexible, ever-changing structures, and as team players are deemed less valuable than competitive risk-takers, psychopathic traits are more likely to be selected and rewarded. Reading their work, it seems to me that if you have psychopathic tendencies and are born to a poor family, you're likely to go to prison. If you have psychopathic tendencies and are born to a rich family, you're likely to go to business school.
This is not to suggest that all executives are psychopaths. It is to suggest that the economy has been rewarding the wrong skills. As the bosses have shaken off the trade unions and captured both regulators and tax authorities, the distinction between the productive and rentier upper classes has broken down. Chief executives now behave like dukes, extracting from their financial estates sums out of all proportion to the work they do or the value they generate, sums that sometimes exhaust the businesses they parasitise. They are no more deserving of the share of wealth they've captured than oil sheikhs.
The rest of us are invited, by governments and by fawning interviews in the press, to subscribe to their myth of election: the belief that they are possessed of superhuman talents. The very rich are often described as wealth creators. But they have preyed on the earth's natural wealth and their workers' labour and creativity, impoverishing both people and planet. Now they have almost bankrupted us. The wealth creators of neoliberal mythology are some of the most effective wealth destroyers the world has ever seen.
What has happened over the past 30 years is the capture of the world's common treasury by a handful of people, assisted by neoliberal policies which were first imposed on rich nations by Margaret Thatcher and Ronald Reagan. I am now going to bombard you with figures. I'm sorry about that, but these numbers need to be tattooed on our minds. Between 1947 and 1979, productivity in the US rose by 119%, while the income of the bottom fifth of the population rose by 122%. But from 1979 to 2009, productivity rose by 80%, while the income of the bottom fifth fell by 4%. In roughly the same period, the income of the top 1% rose by 270%.
In the UK, the money earned by the poorest tenth fell by 12% between 1999 and 2009, while the money made by the richest 10th rose by 37%. The Gini coefficient, which measures income inequality, climbed in this country from 26 in 1979 to 40 in 2009.
In his book The Haves and the Have Nots, Branko Milanovic tries to discover who was the richest person who has ever lived. Beginning with the loaded Roman triumvir Marcus Crassus, he measures wealth according to the quantity of his compatriots' labour a rich man could buy. It appears that the richest man to have lived in the past 2,000 years is alive today. Carlos Slim could buy the labour of 440,000 average Mexicans. This makes him 14 times as rich as Crassus, nine times as rich as Carnegie and four times as rich as Rockefeller.
Until recently, we were mesmerised by the bosses' self-attribution. Their acolytes, in academia, the media, thinktanks and government, created an extensive infrastructure of junk economics and flattery to justify their seizure of other people's wealth. So immersed in this nonsense did we become that we seldom challenged its veracity.
This is now changing. On Sunday evening I witnessed a remarkable thing: a debate on the steps of St Paul's Cathedral between Stuart Fraser, chairman of the Corporation of the City of London, another official from the corporation, the turbulent priest Father William Taylor, John Christensen of the Tax Justice Network and the people of Occupy London. It had something of the flavour of the Putney debates of 1647. For the first time in decades – and all credit to the corporation officials for turning up – financial power was obliged to answer directly to the people.
It felt like history being made. The undeserving rich are now in the frame, and the rest of us want our money back.
Again, don't be like that. It's grade school to call me a troll every time I disagree with your socialist everybody is the same posts. It's getting old that you like to speak into an echo chamber.
kind of like you have bashed ows at every chance you had in this thread. posting all of the pics of the worst things have happened in a handful of cities, characterizing all of the protestors as purposely jobless, lazy, vindictive, and dirty people, laughing and joking about innocent people getting beaten and pepper sprayed...you were being provocative in those posts and you were baiting people. that is the definition of trolling.
Grade school
Never once made a comment about "innocent" people getting pepper sprayed. You are getting close to being reported for your slander. Or is it libel? Look it up. All of it.
The picture I posted of " the face of ows" was of a criminal. He broke the law on numerous occasions. Look that up tOo. And stop attacking me for not believing you should get a filet for whatever it is that you may or may not do.
Discuss the topic please
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brianlux
Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,426
The latest issue of The Progressive is fantastic. Lots of great articles on various Occupy issues including one by the esteemed Wendell Berry on Civil Disobedience. Check em out here:
I like to post this piece of "artwork" of explaining #OWS why there is no hierarchical leadership and based on the premise that "no person is singular more important than another." http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOrXAsjUFwc
May I add, it is hard to "chop off" one head and kill a movement. Hope you come and join us, in some manner. Not to be an alarmist or anything, but we are at a severe pinnacle in human evolution with decisions on a global scale being managed by a handful of a "greedy" few. We can do anything together in a peaceable global voice with common thoughts of what we "all" really want. Drop your judgements and agendas at the door. Begin thinking as a global citizen for the betterment of humanity. Thank You for letting me do a little soap boxing on the topic.
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brianlux
Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,426
May I add, it is hard to "chop off" one head and kill a movement. Hope you come and join us, in some manner. Not to be an alarmist or anything, but we are at a severe pinnacle in human evolution with decisions on a global scale being managed by a handful of a "greedy" few. We can do anything together in a peaceable global voice with common thoughts of what we "all" really want. Drop your judgements and agendas at the door. Begin thinking as a global citizen for the betterment of humanity. Thank You for letting me do a little soap boxing on the topic.
Great post, 7RayZ! Might I add, think like a local citizen too? In tough times it's good to have a strong a community as well.
"Pretty cookies, heart squares all around, yeah!" -Eddie Vedder, "Smile"
Protesters who helped a homeless family move into a foreclosed home in Brooklyn insist their takeover will actually increase property values.
The demonstrators and the new squatters — a family of four struggling to make ends meet — said they will remove debris and rotted drywall from the two-story house on Vermont Street before bringing in volunteer contractors to make repairs.
The new tenants said they hope to have heat and hot water in the next several days, but they did not say how they’d make that happen.
“Neighbors are really excited because we’re improving and increasing the value of this home and therefore the neighborhood,” said protester Max Berger, 26, who is standing guard against a possible police eviction.
“The house was empty for so long and the previous owner illegally divided up the house and rented it out like a boarding house,” he added.
The takeover of the vacant home was part of the latest phase of the persistent Occupy Wall Street movement.
Protesters across the country are bringing their noisy, pesky fight indoors with plans to take over foreclosed homes and stay in them for months.
May I add, it is hard to "chop off" one head and kill a movement. Hope you come and join us, in some manner. Not to be an alarmist or anything, but we are at a severe pinnacle in human evolution with decisions on a global scale being managed by a handful of a "greedy" few. We can do anything together in a peaceable global voice with common thoughts of what we "all" really want. Drop your judgements and agendas at the door. Begin thinking as a global citizen for the betterment of humanity. Thank You for letting me do a little soap boxing on the topic.
Great post, 7RayZ! Might I add, think like a local citizen too? In tough times it's good to have a strong a community as well.
Thanks! 10c ate my comment, but you are correct. Thanks for the plug for The Progressive. A nice cradle of some good original thinking.
"I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and causes me to tremble for the safety of my country. . . . Corporations have been enthroned, an era of corruption in high places will follow, and the money-power of the country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the people until the wealth is aggregated in a few hands and the Republic is destroyed."
-- Abraham Lincoln (quoted in Jack London's The Iron Heel)
Two years ago in conversation with my father. (heh... we talk more than that, but anyway) He says people are going to RIOT. People are going to RIOT in a huge frightening manner like a global insurrection. This is a liberal person who lived through the 60's.
However, this is the beginning of protesting. This is some semblance of proactive act by the people who also see we are on the verge of emergency in a world in desperate need of making serious change. Its just a warning. These people are not terrorist nor provocateurs to anarchy. Just people concerned about the future and which avenue the "people in charge" are driving us down. We all can see there is something inherently wrong with the systems that are in place. We all can reach several specific points as a people of WTF is going on here and how it can be fixed regardless of your political leanings.
It could be worse we could be in the middle of a huge destructive riots in which there could be huge losses of life and bloodshed.
Between the Patriot Act and the Constitution we are in a paradox. We cannot have "freedom" and then have our government being up our ass.
We as a people reserve the right to invoke the 5th Amendment of the Constitution to fix WTF is going on a loophole to a legal insurrection without completely falling apart. We are getting fairly close to this. Personally I believe that it should be done. As long as we have the greatest minds in there to recuperate what we have lost completely in our "so called" democratic society.
We can all agree there is a scant handful of politician who are great civil servants with integrity serving WE the PEOPLE! Somewhere along the way "the other politicians" have become some cancerous organization that have been inflicted upon all of US who are actually the true members governing body of this society.
Never forget in a democracy it is a living breathing organism by EVERYONE! WE ARE THE GOVERNMENT... the people who we have place int the offices to serve "US" is just a bureaucracy set into place to carry out the needs and the will of the people. People who violate this should actually themselves be charged with treasonous acts under the Patriot act. Who are the real terrorist here?
Yeah, call me a dreamer, call me fucking crazy, tell me Im up against a brick wall, tell me it cant be done. But if you dont take the goddamn reins on these greedy beasts, who the fuck will?
Ever since Occupy Boston got shut down (and rightfully so), they've spread out to other towns in Mass, where I'm sure they'll die a rather quick death, possibly by hypothermia.
Obviously I support the idea that the rich and powerful have fucked us over, but we've done a good job at allowing them to... I mean most of the "99%" are equally greedy... they're just less successful at it! In Massachusetts, we just opened the door for casinos.... Democracy let this happen. So I'm fucking done with democracy.... if only intelligent people with good hearts were allowed to vote, I'd change my mind, but the masses are asses, so to hell with them!
Look at these fools shouting down Newt Gingrich in Iowa with their dumbass 'mic check' - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqWUaRRIb8Y - they make Newt and his supporters seem classy by comparison - wow!
Ever since Occupy Boston got shut down (and rightfully so), they've spread out to other towns in Mass, where I'm sure they'll die a rather quick death, possibly by hypothermia.
Obviously I support the idea that the rich and powerful have fucked us over, but we've done a good job at allowing them to... I mean most of the "99%" are equally greedy... they're just less successful at it! In Massachusetts, we just opened the door for casinos.... Democracy let this happen. So I'm fucking done with democracy.... if only intelligent people with good hearts were allowed to vote, I'd change my mind, but the masses are asses, so to hell with them!
Look at these fools shouting down Newt Gingrich in Iowa with their dumbass 'mic check' - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqWUaRRIb8Y - they make Newt and his supporters seem classy by comparison - wow!
there's been mic check done to every major candidate including Obama. Some handle it better than others, Obama & Chris Christie were pretty kewl about it.
Happy Holidays to everyone - keep the discussion going.
Green Disease:
It's a disease,... and they're all green
It emminates from their being
Agitation,.. with occupation
And like weeds,.. with big leaves
Stealing light from what's beneath
Where they have more,...
Still they take more
Course I know,.. then I don't
There's a stoway with my throat
It's deceiving
I don't believe him
We can scream,.. out our doors
Behind the wall a fat man snores
In his dreams he's,...
Choking on leaves
Well I guess
There's nothing wrong with what you say
Believe me
Just asking you to sway
No white
Or black
Just grey
Can you feel this,..
World with your heart and not your brain?
Comments
I prefer trying to earn a better future for myself and my family/friends rather than asking those that already have an unfair tax burden to pay for a "fair share".
don't feed...
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
you should join us man.
this is the beginning of the beginning.
one step at a time.
and it will fall. this movement is gonna fight for a justice that won't hurt anyone. it might tax some fuckers with billions to spend but it won't hurt anyone.
Again, don't be like that. It's grade school to call me a troll every time I disagree with your socialist everybody is the same posts. It's getting old that you like to speak into an echo chamber.
agreed/.
Thanks. Honestly, appreciate it.
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
No they don't. Just the opposite. Oh, and the reference to American Psycho above isn't a million miles away from the truth:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree ... destroyers
The 1% are the very best destroyers of wealth the world has ever seen
Our common treasury in the last 30 years has been captured by industrial psychopaths. That's why we're nearly bankrupt
George Monbiot
guardian.co.uk, Monday 7 November 2011
If wealth was the inevitable result of hard work and enterprise, every woman in Africa would be a millionaire. The claims that the ultra-rich 1% make for themselves – that they are possessed of unique intelligence or creativity or drive – are examples of the self-attribution fallacy. This means crediting yourself with outcomes for which you weren't responsible. Many of those who are rich today got there because they were able to capture certain jobs. This capture owes less to talent and intelligence than to a combination of the ruthless exploitation of others and accidents of birth, as such jobs are taken disproportionately by people born in certain places and into certain classes.
The findings of the psychologist Daniel Kahneman, winner of a Nobel economics prize, are devastating to the beliefs that financial high-fliers entertain about themselves. He discovered that their apparent success is a cognitive illusion. For example, he studied the results achieved by 25 wealth advisers across eight years. He found that the consistency of their performance was zero. "The results resembled what you would expect from a dice-rolling contest, not a game of skill." Those who received the biggest bonuses had simply got lucky.
Such results have been widely replicated. They show that traders and fund managers throughout Wall Street receive their massive remuneration for doing no better than would a chimpanzee flipping a coin. When Kahneman tried to point this out, they blanked him. "The illusion of skill … is deeply ingrained in their culture."
So much for the financial sector and its super-educated analysts. As for other kinds of business, you tell me. Is your boss possessed of judgment, vision and management skills superior to those of anyone else in the firm, or did he or she get there through bluff, bullshit and bullying?
In a study published by the journal Psychology, Crime and Law, Belinda Board and Katarina Fritzon tested 39 senior managers and chief executives from leading British businesses. They compared the results to the same tests on patients at Broadmoor special hospital, where people who have been convicted of serious crimes are incarcerated. On certain indicators of psychopathy, the bosses's scores either matched or exceeded those of the patients. In fact, on these criteria, they beat even the subset of patients who had been diagnosed with psychopathic personality disorders.
The psychopathic traits on which the bosses scored so highly, Board and Fritzon point out, closely resemble the characteristics that companies look for. Those who have these traits often possess great skill in flattering and manipulating powerful people. Egocentricity, a strong sense of entitlement, a readiness to exploit others and a lack of empathy and conscience are also unlikely to damage their prospects in many corporations.
In their book Snakes in Suits, Paul Babiak and Robert Hare point out that as the old corporate bureaucracies have been replaced by flexible, ever-changing structures, and as team players are deemed less valuable than competitive risk-takers, psychopathic traits are more likely to be selected and rewarded. Reading their work, it seems to me that if you have psychopathic tendencies and are born to a poor family, you're likely to go to prison. If you have psychopathic tendencies and are born to a rich family, you're likely to go to business school.
This is not to suggest that all executives are psychopaths. It is to suggest that the economy has been rewarding the wrong skills. As the bosses have shaken off the trade unions and captured both regulators and tax authorities, the distinction between the productive and rentier upper classes has broken down. Chief executives now behave like dukes, extracting from their financial estates sums out of all proportion to the work they do or the value they generate, sums that sometimes exhaust the businesses they parasitise. They are no more deserving of the share of wealth they've captured than oil sheikhs.
The rest of us are invited, by governments and by fawning interviews in the press, to subscribe to their myth of election: the belief that they are possessed of superhuman talents. The very rich are often described as wealth creators. But they have preyed on the earth's natural wealth and their workers' labour and creativity, impoverishing both people and planet. Now they have almost bankrupted us. The wealth creators of neoliberal mythology are some of the most effective wealth destroyers the world has ever seen.
What has happened over the past 30 years is the capture of the world's common treasury by a handful of people, assisted by neoliberal policies which were first imposed on rich nations by Margaret Thatcher and Ronald Reagan. I am now going to bombard you with figures. I'm sorry about that, but these numbers need to be tattooed on our minds. Between 1947 and 1979, productivity in the US rose by 119%, while the income of the bottom fifth of the population rose by 122%. But from 1979 to 2009, productivity rose by 80%, while the income of the bottom fifth fell by 4%. In roughly the same period, the income of the top 1% rose by 270%.
In the UK, the money earned by the poorest tenth fell by 12% between 1999 and 2009, while the money made by the richest 10th rose by 37%. The Gini coefficient, which measures income inequality, climbed in this country from 26 in 1979 to 40 in 2009.
In his book The Haves and the Have Nots, Branko Milanovic tries to discover who was the richest person who has ever lived. Beginning with the loaded Roman triumvir Marcus Crassus, he measures wealth according to the quantity of his compatriots' labour a rich man could buy. It appears that the richest man to have lived in the past 2,000 years is alive today. Carlos Slim could buy the labour of 440,000 average Mexicans. This makes him 14 times as rich as Crassus, nine times as rich as Carnegie and four times as rich as Rockefeller.
Until recently, we were mesmerised by the bosses' self-attribution. Their acolytes, in academia, the media, thinktanks and government, created an extensive infrastructure of junk economics and flattery to justify their seizure of other people's wealth. So immersed in this nonsense did we become that we seldom challenged its veracity.
This is now changing. On Sunday evening I witnessed a remarkable thing: a debate on the steps of St Paul's Cathedral between Stuart Fraser, chairman of the Corporation of the City of London, another official from the corporation, the turbulent priest Father William Taylor, John Christensen of the Tax Justice Network and the people of Occupy London. It had something of the flavour of the Putney debates of 1647. For the first time in decades – and all credit to the corporation officials for turning up – financial power was obliged to answer directly to the people.
It felt like history being made. The undeserving rich are now in the frame, and the rest of us want our money back.
Grade school
Never once made a comment about "innocent" people getting pepper sprayed. You are getting close to being reported for your slander. Or is it libel? Look it up. All of it.
The picture I posted of " the face of ows" was of a criminal. He broke the law on numerous occasions. Look that up tOo. And stop attacking me for not believing you should get a filet for whatever it is that you may or may not do.
Discuss the topic please
http://www.progressive.org/node/172118
-Eddie Vedder, "Smile"
-Eddie Vedder, "Smile"
The demonstrators and the new squatters — a family of four struggling to make ends meet — said they will remove debris and rotted drywall from the two-story house on Vermont Street before bringing in volunteer contractors to make repairs.
The new tenants said they hope to have heat and hot water in the next several days, but they did not say how they’d make that happen.
“Neighbors are really excited because we’re improving and increasing the value of this home and therefore the neighborhood,” said protester Max Berger, 26, who is standing guard against a possible police eviction.
“The house was empty for so long and the previous owner illegally divided up the house and rented it out like a boarding house,” he added.
The takeover of the vacant home was part of the latest phase of the persistent Occupy Wall Street movement.
Protesters across the country are bringing their noisy, pesky fight indoors with plans to take over foreclosed homes and stay in them for months.
http://m.nypost.com/;s=PXf1GjTrrYGKaRO3 ... pagrMPX6BP
Why do these idiots think they're entitled to free housing. I would hope the police arrest them for trespassing as they're clearly breaking the law.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOP2V_np2c0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvx68oXeS1U
Cops rip down Paper Hearts made by OWS children http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/12/11/c ... them-down/
-- Abraham Lincoln (quoted in Jack London's The Iron Heel)
However, this is the beginning of protesting. This is some semblance of proactive act by the people who also see we are on the verge of emergency in a world in desperate need of making serious change. Its just a warning. These people are not terrorist nor provocateurs to anarchy. Just people concerned about the future and which avenue the "people in charge" are driving us down. We all can see there is something inherently wrong with the systems that are in place. We all can reach several specific points as a people of WTF is going on here and how it can be fixed regardless of your political leanings.
It could be worse we could be in the middle of a huge destructive riots in which there could be huge losses of life and bloodshed.
Between the Patriot Act and the Constitution we are in a paradox. We cannot have "freedom" and then have our government being up our ass.
We as a people reserve the right to invoke the 5th Amendment of the Constitution to fix WTF is going on a loophole to a legal insurrection without completely falling apart. We are getting fairly close to this. Personally I believe that it should be done. As long as we have the greatest minds in there to recuperate what we have lost completely in our "so called" democratic society.
We can all agree there is a scant handful of politician who are great civil servants with integrity serving WE the PEOPLE! Somewhere along the way "the other politicians" have become some cancerous organization that have been inflicted upon all of US who are actually the true members governing body of this society.
Never forget in a democracy it is a living breathing organism by EVERYONE! WE ARE THE GOVERNMENT... the people who we have place int the offices to serve "US" is just a bureaucracy set into place to carry out the needs and the will of the people. People who violate this should actually themselves be charged with treasonous acts under the Patriot act. Who are the real terrorist here?
Yeah, call me a dreamer, call me fucking crazy, tell me Im up against a brick wall, tell me it cant be done. But if you dont take the goddamn reins on these greedy beasts, who the fuck will?
"Hans, Bubby, i am your White Knight"
lolacaust
A man that stands for nothing....will fall for anything!
All people need to do more on every level!
i'm thinking 75/25.
Obviously I support the idea that the rich and powerful have fucked us over, but we've done a good job at allowing them to... I mean most of the "99%" are equally greedy... they're just less successful at it! In Massachusetts, we just opened the door for casinos.... Democracy let this happen. So I'm fucking done with democracy.... if only intelligent people with good hearts were allowed to vote, I'd change my mind, but the masses are asses, so to hell with them!
Look at these fools shouting down Newt Gingrich in Iowa with their dumbass 'mic check' - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqWUaRRIb8Y - they make Newt and his supporters seem classy by comparison - wow!
there's been mic check done to every major candidate including Obama. Some handle it better than others, Obama & Chris Christie were pretty kewl about it.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-16210940
I love Cornel. He and Tavis started their Poverty Tour in my hometown. I keep their pictures on my laptop out of pride.
Not dead yet! Still at it strong.
Green Disease:
It's a disease,... and they're all green
It emminates from their being
Agitation,.. with occupation
And like weeds,.. with big leaves
Stealing light from what's beneath
Where they have more,...
Still they take more
Course I know,.. then I don't
There's a stoway with my throat
It's deceiving
I don't believe him
We can scream,.. out our doors
Behind the wall a fat man snores
In his dreams he's,...
Choking on leaves
Well I guess
There's nothing wrong with what you say
Believe me
Just asking you to sway
No white
Or black
Just grey
Can you feel this,..
World with your heart and not your brain?