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  • Monster RainMonster Rain Posts: 1,415
    That will actually become a pretty dangerous method of getting power if they're still hanging around there when the really cold weather hits. Exercising outdoors in the winter is a good way to bring on a heart attack.
    Jason P wrote:
    People are using exercise bikes to provide power after their generators were confiscated.

    http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/power-people-occupy-wall-street-uses-bikes-generate-141853827.html

    Although the main purpose is to power laptops and cell phones ... two main staples of American consumerism and debt. Nevertheless, it's a creative method and much safer (and quieter) then generators.

    Now they just need to figure out how to plug electric blankets into it. ;)
  • JeanwahJeanwah Posts: 6,363
    That will actually become a pretty dangerous method of getting power if they're still hanging around there when the really cold weather hits. Exercising outdoors in the winter is a good way to bring on a heart attack.
    Jason P wrote:
    People are using exercise bikes to provide power after their generators were confiscated.

    http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/power-people-occupy-wall-street-uses-bikes-generate-141853827.html

    Although the main purpose is to power laptops and cell phones ... two main staples of American consumerism and debt. Nevertheless, it's a creative method and much safer (and quieter) then generators.

    Now they just need to figure out how to plug electric blankets into it. ;)

    What??? That's just false. You are not privy to a heart attack just from exercising in the winter.

    Pedal power is awesome.
  • Perhaps I should have clarified what I meant a little better. People who are not in good shape are at risk when they do strenuous exercise in cold weather. If you have a heart condition and you're pedaling a stationary bike to provide electricity outdoors when it's 10 degrees with 20 mph winds you are putting yourself in a bad situation. Along those same lines, someone with asthma has an increased risk of an asthma attack if they exercise outside in very cold conditions. My point was that I seen a ton of news coverage and home video of the OWS crowd and there weren't a lot of people there that looked like they were in the type of shape where I would think exercising in the cold was the best idea for them--especially since the ones living in tents don't have an "inside" to go to where they can warm up afterwards. I wouldn't want to be sweating like that and then have to remain outdoors. I'm not wishing anything bad upon them. I just don't think it's the best idea.
    Jeanwah wrote:
    That will actually become a pretty dangerous method of getting power if they're still hanging around there when the really cold weather hits. Exercising outdoors in the winter is a good way to bring on a heart attack.
    Jason P wrote:
    People are using exercise bikes to provide power after their generators were confiscated.

    http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/power-people-occupy-wall-street-uses-bikes-generate-141853827.html

    Although the main purpose is to power laptops and cell phones ... two main staples of American consumerism and debt. Nevertheless, it's a creative method and much safer (and quieter) then generators.

    Now they just need to figure out how to plug electric blankets into it. ;)

    What??? That's just false. You are not privy to a heart attack just from exercising in the winter.

    Pedal power is awesome.
  • "I believe that Barack Obama owns the Occupy Wall Street movement," __________ said. "It would not have happened, it would not have happened but for his class warfare. And remember, as it gets worse and worse because it's going to get worse and worse, where it came from. Barack Obama. He praised it. He supported it. He agrees with it. He sympathizes with it. And as it gets worse and worse, I believe this will be the millstone around Barack Obama's neck that will take his presidency down."

    "How about you occupy a job. How about working? Working. I know that's tough," __________ also said.




    Truer words have never been spoken. How about you occupy a job? Love it. Very wise man. Unfortunately, he's not running because the Republican party is worried about the wrong thing (divorces, some centrist ideals), and he's too honest for the Democrats (I'm sure they will be upset with this). He would clean the US up like he did NYC.

    Can you guess the speaker?
    Sorry. The world doesn't work the way you tell it to.
  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,156
    "I believe that Barack Obama owns the Occupy Wall Street movement," __________ said. "It would not have happened, it would not have happened but for his class warfare. And remember, as it gets worse and worse because it's going to get worse and worse, where it came from. Barack Obama. He praised it. He supported it. He agrees with it. He sympathizes with it. And as it gets worse and worse, I believe this will be the millstone around Barack Obama's neck that will take his presidency down."

    "How about you occupy a job. How about working? Working. I know that's tough," __________ also said.




    Truer words have never been spoken. How about you occupy a job? Love it. Very wise man. Unfortunately, he's not running because the Republican party is worried about the wrong thing (divorces, some centrist ideals), and he's too honest for the Democrats (I'm sure they will be upset with this). He would clean the US up like he did NYC.

    Can you guess the speaker?
    Since it's NY, I'm guessing Rudy.

    Reality is that both GOP and Democrats play us like fools against each other all the time. I think both OWS and the Tea Party are very similar in nature, but each is compromised from a distinct political party and the ideology is not easy to let go. Both political parties are trying to figure out how to harness the energy for their own gain, even though they are the same fuckers that caused the activism in the first place by not performing their job ethically.

    That's what is really missing in congress ... ethics.
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  • Rudy it is.
    Sorry. The world doesn't work the way you tell it to.
  • CH156378CH156378 Posts: 1,539
    "I believe that Barack Obama owns the Occupy Wall Street movement," __________ said. "It would not have happened, it would not have happened but for his class warfare. And remember, as it gets worse and worse because it's going to get worse and worse, where it came from. Barack Obama. He praised it. He supported it. He agrees with it. He sympathizes with it. And as it gets worse and worse, I believe this will be the millstone around Barack Obama's neck that will take his presidency down."

    "How about you occupy a job. How about working? Working. I know that's tough," __________ also said.




    Truer words have never been spoken. How about you occupy a job? Love it. Very wise man. Unfortunately, he's not running because the Republican party is worried about the wrong thing (divorces, some centrist ideals), and he's too honest for the Democrats (I'm sure they will be upset with this). He would clean the US up like he did NYC.

    Can you guess the speaker?

    :lol:
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    CH156378 wrote:
    "I believe that Barack Obama owns the Occupy Wall Street movement," __________ said. "It would not have happened, it would not have happened but for his class warfare. And remember, as it gets worse and worse because it's going to get worse and worse, where it came from. Barack Obama. He praised it. He supported it. He agrees with it. He sympathizes with it. And as it gets worse and worse, I believe this will be the millstone around Barack Obama's neck that will take his presidency down."

    "How about you occupy a job. How about working? Working. I know that's tough," __________ also said.




    Truer words have never been spoken. How about you occupy a job? Love it. Very wise man. Unfortunately, he's not running because the Republican party is worried about the wrong thing (divorces, some centrist ideals), and he's too honest for the Democrats (I'm sure they will be upset with this). He would clean the US up like he did NYC.

    Can you guess the speaker?

    :lol:
    yeah what would mayor nosferatu do??
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • yeah what would mayor nosferatu do??

    So funny. You absolutely don't have it in you to give credit where credit is due. Do you remember NYC under Mayor Dinkins?
    Sorry. The world doesn't work the way you tell it to.
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    yeah what would mayor nosferatu do??

    So funny. You absolutely don't have it in you to give credit where credit is due. Do you remember NYC under Mayor Dinkins?
    i didn't care about new york city under dinkins.

    i remember it under america's mayor, but still was not concerned about it though..
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • Ms. HaikuMs. Haiku Washington DC Posts: 7,277
    Second war vet beaten bad by Oakland Police . . . written about in UK newspaper. Anyone see it in US papers?
    I learned about it through a tweet.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/nov/04/occupy-oakland-second-veteran-injured?CMP=twt_fd

    Oakland Police . . . what's their problem?
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  • Ms. HaikuMs. Haiku Washington DC Posts: 7,277
    Tweets from occupydc. When I first read that protesters were hit I was furious. I wasn't there, but then I read it was a human blockade inhibiting people from leaving building, or driving away from convention center. I read some cars were honking for protesters to move, and I read that some were honking in support. I read that the people hit jumped in front of cars, and I read the cars plowed through the people; it depends on which side is speaking.

    I just saw human being try murder a human being. a car ran over someone on purpose #occupydc #ows

    The same car ran over another protester #occupydc #ows

    Protestor hit by a car. Lying in street. Hit and run. Ambulance here #occupydc [12 minutes ago] [different twitter feed]Washington Post person on the scene @timcraigpost

    A total of 3 people were hit by cars, and there were two drivers.

    I saw a streaming video of the protest and it must have been from different time; people were chanting, but they were walking.

    On a different note: Social media is the protester's friend. This distribution of information is amazing!
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  • A report I read said that Occupy DC protesters knocked over and injured an elderly man and an elderly woman. The woman is 78 and was knocked down a flight of stairs. Another report said 2 elderly women were knocked down (I don't know if those reports both refer to the same 2 people and one just has the gender of one person wrong or if the reports refer to separate incidents). The first link below also has a link to cell phone video taken at the scene of the protest but I don't know what's in it because I can't view streaming video at work.

    http://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/2011 ... n-on-debt/

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/cri ... _blog.html

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/due ... story.html

    There was an interesting and annoying part of the last article that just makes me wonder about some people:
    Steve Hartwell, 23, said he watched as police cleared the way for the driver to depart and became angry. He stood at the bumper of the car and made an obscene finger gesture at the driver. He was then detained by police.
    “I felt hands on my back, and they had me on the ground really quickly,” Hartwell said. “They were letting the guy go . . . I was really [ticked] off, and I went for it and let them know.” Hartwell, a former Henrico County, Va., resident, quit his construction job to move to the District to join the Occupy movement.

    This guy had a job and quit it so he can protest? This guy's 23 and he thinks it's a good idea to quit your job when the unemployment rate is this high? Why would another contractor hire him when he's willing to just walk away from his job like that? There are plenty of contruction workers out there who I'm sure were more than willing to take the job he had, but he's not satisfied. Unreal.
    Ms. Haiku wrote:
    Tweets from occupydc. When I first read that protesters were hit I was furious. I wasn't there, but then I read it was a human blockade inhibiting people from leaving building, or driving away from convention center. I read some cars were honking for protesters to move, and I read that some were honking in support. I read that the people hit jumped in front of cars, and I read the cars plowed through the people; it depends on which side is speaking.

    I just saw human being try murder a human being. a car ran over someone on purpose #occupydc #ows

    The same car ran over another protester #occupydc #ows

    Protestor hit by a car. Lying in street. Hit and run. Ambulance here #occupydc [12 minutes ago] [different twitter feed]Washington Post person on the scene @timcraigpost

    A total of 3 people were hit by cars, and there were two drivers.

    I saw a streaming video of the protest and it must have been from different time; people were chanting, but they were walking.

    On a different note: Social media is the protester's friend. This distribution of information is amazing!
  • usamamasan1usamamasan1 Posts: 4,695
    A great article by Marybeth Hicks.



    Call it an occupational hazard, but I can't look at the Occupy Wall
    Street protesters without thinking, "Who parented these people?"


    As a culture columnist, I've commented on the social and political
    ramifications of the "movement" - now known as "OWS" - whose fairyland agenda can be summarized by one of their placards: "Everything for everybody."



    Thanks to their pipe-dream platform, it's clear there are people with serious designs on "transformational" change in America who are using the protesters like bedsprings in a brothel.


    Yet it's not my role as a commentator that prompts my parenting
    question, but rather the fact that I'm the mother of four teens and
    young adults. There are some crucial life lessons that the protesters' moms clearly have not passed along.


    Here, then, are five things the OWS protesters' mothers should have taught their children but obviously didn't, so I will:


    * Life isn't fair. The concept of justice - that everyone should be
    treated fairly - is a worthy and worthwhile moral imperative on which our nation was founded. But justice and economic equality are not the same. Or, as Mick Jagger said, "You can't always get what you want."


    No matter how you try to "level the playing field," some people have better luck, skills, talents or connections that land them in better places. Some seem to have all the advantages in life but squander them, others play the modest hand they're dealt and make up the difference in hard work and perseverance, and some find jobs on Wall Street and eventually buy houses in the Hamptons. Is it fair? Stupid question.


    * Nothing is "free." Protesting with signs that seek "free" college
    degrees and "free" health care make you look like idiots, because
    colleges and hospitals don't operate on rainbows and sunshine. There is no magic money machine to tap for your meandering educational careers and "slow paths" to adulthood, and the 53 percent of taxpaying Americans owe you neither a degree nor an annual physical.


    While I'm pointing out this obvious fact, here are a few other things that are not free: overtime for police officers and municipal workers, trash hauling, repairs to fixtures and property, condoms, Band-Aids and the food that inexplicably appears on the tables in your makeshift protest kitchens. Real people with real dollars are underwriting your civic temper tantrum.


    * Your word is your bond. When you demonstrate to eliminate student loan debt, you are advocating precisely the lack of integrity you decry in others. Loans are made based on solemn promises to repay them. No one forces you to borrow money; you are free to choose educational pursuits that don't require loans, or to seek technical or vocational training that allows you to support yourself and your ongoing educational goals. Also, for the record, being a college student is not a state of victimization. It's a privilege that billions of young people around the globe would die for - literally.


    * A protest is not a party. On Saturday in New York, while making a mad dash from my cab to the door of my hotel to avoid you, I saw what isn't evident in the newsreel footage of your demonstrations: Most of you are doing this only for attention and fun. Serious people in a sober pursuit of social and political change don't dance jigs down Sixth Avenue like attendees of a Renaissance festival. You look foolish, you smell gross, you are clearly high and you don't seem to realize that all around you are people who deem you irrelevant.


    * There are reasons you haven't found jobs. The truth? Your tattooed necks, gauged ears, facial piercings and dirty dreadlocks are off-putting. Nonconformity for the sake of nonconformity isn't a virtue. Occupy reality: Only 4 percent of college graduates are out of work. If you are among that 4 percent, find a mirror and face the problem. It's not them. It's you.

    WOOT
  • BinauralJamBinauralJam Posts: 14,158
    A great article by Marybeth Hicks.



    Call it an occupational hazard, but I can't look at the Occupy Wall
    Street protesters without thinking, "Who parented these people?"


    As a culture columnist, I've commented on the social and political
    ramifications of the "movement" - now known as "OWS" - whose fairyland agenda can be summarized by one of their placards: "Everything for everybody."



    Thanks to their pipe-dream platform, it's clear there are people with serious designs on "transformational" change in America who are using the protesters like bedsprings in a brothel.


    Yet it's not my role as a commentator that prompts my parenting
    question, but rather the fact that I'm the mother of four teens and
    young adults. There are some crucial life lessons that the protesters' moms clearly have not passed along.


    Here, then, are five things the OWS protesters' mothers should have taught their children but obviously didn't, so I will:


    * Life isn't fair. The concept of justice - that everyone should be
    treated fairly - is a worthy and worthwhile moral imperative on which our nation was founded. But justice and economic equality are not the same. Or, as Mick Jagger said, "You can't always get what you want."


    No matter how you try to "level the playing field," some people have better luck, skills, talents or connections that land them in better places. Some seem to have all the advantages in life but squander them, others play the modest hand they're dealt and make up the difference in hard work and perseverance, and some find jobs on Wall Street and eventually buy houses in the Hamptons. Is it fair? Stupid question.


    * Nothing is "free." Protesting with signs that seek "free" college
    degrees and "free" health care make you look like idiots, because
    colleges and hospitals don't operate on rainbows and sunshine. There is no magic money machine to tap for your meandering educational careers and "slow paths" to adulthood, and the 53 percent of taxpaying Americans owe you neither a degree nor an annual physical.


    While I'm pointing out this obvious fact, here are a few other things that are not free: overtime for police officers and municipal workers, trash hauling, repairs to fixtures and property, condoms, Band-Aids and the food that inexplicably appears on the tables in your makeshift protest kitchens. Real people with real dollars are underwriting your civic temper tantrum.


    * Your word is your bond. When you demonstrate to eliminate student loan debt, you are advocating precisely the lack of integrity you decry in others. Loans are made based on solemn promises to repay them. No one forces you to borrow money; you are free to choose educational pursuits that don't require loans, or to seek technical or vocational training that allows you to support yourself and your ongoing educational goals. Also, for the record, being a college student is not a state of victimization. It's a privilege that billions of young people around the globe would die for - literally.


    * A protest is not a party. On Saturday in New York, while making a mad dash from my cab to the door of my hotel to avoid you, I saw what isn't evident in the newsreel footage of your demonstrations: Most of you are doing this only for attention and fun. Serious people in a sober pursuit of social and political change don't dance jigs down Sixth Avenue like attendees of a Renaissance festival. You look foolish, you smell gross, you are clearly high and you don't seem to realize that all around you are people who deem you irrelevant.


    * There are reasons you haven't found jobs. The truth? Your tattooed necks, gauged ears, facial piercings and dirty dreadlocks are off-putting. Nonconformity for the sake of nonconformity isn't a virtue. Occupy reality: Only 4 percent of college graduates are out of work. If you are among that 4 percent, find a mirror and face the problem. It's not them. It's you.

    WOOT


    You've convinced me, everythings just Great the way it is, how dare they complain about the price of Milk, Bread, Gas, bank fees, No Jobs, health care, Social Security, Freedom to peaceful protest, etc...
  • FiveB247xFiveB247x Posts: 2,330
    What a hypocrite. You know who these "bad parents" are or who's family they people come from... the Baby Boomer generation. That's right, the generation who were handed everything in a post-WW2 era where their own parents actually created suburbia and then they decided to create things like privatization, corporate culture, consumerism and greed all things to be admired in our society. I don't agree nor like the OWS group, but the more further we get away from the baby boomers, the more we recognize how selfish and self-interested they are and they are the ones causing far more problems in our nation than any group protesting in parks. The baby boomers have created the national debt and security issues we face in our nation, everyone else is just stuck with the results.
    A great article by Marybeth Hicks.

    WOOT
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  • RW81233RW81233 Posts: 2,393
    that article reminds me of the scene in PJ20 when Andy Rooney is asking why kids are so sad and that they are leaching off the system anyway. Both come off as major dickbags.
  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,426
    RW81233 wrote:
    that article reminds me of the scene in PJ20 when Andy Rooney is asking why kids are so sad and that they are leaching off the system anyway. Both come off as major dickbags.

    I used to think Rooney was kind of funny until I saw PJ20. Man, oh man...
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  • RW81233RW81233 Posts: 2,393
    I was with the Fixer and I'm pretty sure I heard someone say "yeah...motherfucker" at the end of that scene or maybe I did in my head.
  • ajedigeckoajedigecko \m/deplorable af \m/ Posts: 2,430
    woooo hoooo......violence.
    take no shit attitude.
    time to fucking revolt...turn the system around. PISS ON THE POPULACE WHO ARE CLEAN!

    little do these liberal extremeist understand....they are the 1%. when compared to the world population.
    live and let live...unless it violates the pearligious doctrine.
  • BinauralJamBinauralJam Posts: 14,158
    [url=Ihttp://www.myfoxphilly.com/dpp/news/local_news/Retired_Police_Captain_Ray_Lewis_Occupy_Wall_Street_Arrest_111711]Ihttp://www.myfoxphilly.com/dpp/news/lo ... est_111711[/url]

    NEW YORK - A retired Philadelphia police captain has been arrested in New York at an Occupy Wall Street demonstration, FOX 29 News has confirmed.

    Ray Lewis retired from the Philadelphia Police Department in 2004.

    It was Philadelphia police who confirmed Lewis' arrest in New York on Thursday morning. Any additional details, they said, would have to come from NYPD.

    First news of the arrest was broadcast over Twitter around 9:15 a.m. by the protest group on its @OccupyWallStNYC account, stating, "Philly Police Captain (Retired) has just been ARRESTED! #N17 #ows."

    The group then tweeted, "The arrested retired police captain's name is Captain Ray Lewis. Immense cheers and music as he is taken away. #N17 #ows."

    On Tuesday, there were messages online stating that Lewis had joined the protesters, including a photo of him holding a sign that read "NYPD Don't Be Wall Street Mercenaries," and talking with a helmeted New York police officer at Zuccotti Park.
  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    what have the "OWS" groups from NY to CA. gained ? right off hand I can't think of anything so maybe they're doing something wrong or going about it the wrong way.

    Godfather.
  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    Godfather. wrote:
    what have the "OWS" groups from NY to CA. gained ? right off hand I can't think of anything so maybe they're doing something wrong or going about it the wrong way.

    Godfather.

    it's about raising awareness ... one would hope that when large scale protests like this are occurring - they would read up on what the protesters are opposing ...
  • usamamasan1usamamasan1 Posts: 4,695
    drug use, sexual abuse and poor sanitation....
  • neilybabes86neilybabes86 Posts: 16,057
    bunch of druggie convicts who rape girls..... great crowd :roll:
    i post on the board of a band that doesn't exsist anymore .......i need my head examined.......
  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,426
    polaris_x wrote:
    Godfather. wrote:
    what have the "OWS" groups from NY to CA. gained ? right off hand I can't think of anything so maybe they're doing something wrong or going about it the wrong way.

    Godfather.

    it's about raising awareness ... one would hope that when large scale protests like this are occurring - they would read up on what the protesters are opposing ...

    My thoughts as well. Personally, I think the peaceful protests have been more successful that way. I don't think many people listen to ideas or make changes through violence but the many peaceful demonstrations have at least gotten people thinking.
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  • A report is saying that an NYPD officer was slashed at today's protest and is currently in stable condition. Right now, I can't find anything other than a breaking news headline but a full story should be coming soon.

    Then there's this picture from CNN that shows protesters froming a human chain to prevent people from going to work:

    111117051001-occupy-day-of-action-buisnessman-story-top.jpg

    Peaceful demonstrations, right?
  • Better DanBetter Dan Posts: 5,684
    polaris_x wrote:
    Godfather. wrote:
    what have the "OWS" groups from NY to CA. gained ? right off hand I can't think of anything so maybe they're doing something wrong or going about it the wrong way.

    Godfather.

    it's about raising awareness ... one would hope that when large scale protests like this are occurring - they would read up on what the protesters are opposing ...


    I've tried to read up on what they are protesting or opposing, and how they propose we should fix things, but they dont' know
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