I cringed at a lot of songs at PJ20. Between the pointless ramshackle collaborations and the band brutally under rehearsed it's no wonder the show has remained unreleased.
I've got a fever, and the only prescription is more cowbell.
-Christopher Walken
you're=you are
your=showing ownership
The truth has a well known liberal bias.
-Stephen Colbert
I cringed at a lot of songs at PJ20. Between the pointless ramshackle collaborations and the band brutally under rehearsed it's no wonder the show has remained unreleased.
Still no love or PJ20, eh? I personally thought it was one of the most memorable PJ shows I've been to, and a unique experience with friends at one of the best outdoor venues in the country. I completely agree that there were cringe-worthy moments, but I don't go to see this band and expect perfection. I love the live shows, warts and all, and every flub makes me appreciate that they're real, they're unpolished, they're "rock and roll". It is a fine line though - the beginning of 'Who You Are' and when Ed came in too soon on 'In My Tree' were more than just "whoops-a-daisy" things, they were a bit rough.
I do have to completely disagree with you that the collabs were pointless and ramshackle though. It was a big party, and all of their friends joined in on the fun. The TOTD reunion was awesome, i loved Liam Finn's energy on 'Habit', Julian doing 'Red Mosquito' was great, enjoyed Homme on 'In the Moonlight' - it was all fun and loose. I'm guessing most of us have seen PJ multiple times - wouldn't you want unique memories and moments you'll likely never get to see again?
the one song encore is their fault for getting on stage late. they sure weren't late the second night! the printed setlist for n1 had a lot we missed out on, unfortunately.
in case anyone cares and isn't looking at the mystery box thread:
Posters: Hartford 2006 Winnipeg 2011
Shirts: Element tank Reaper 08 tee Halloween 13 tee
CDs: Cleveland 2003 Man of the Hour Brad - Welcome to Discovery Park Rockfords - Waiting EP Harrybu McCage (this is good shit, you guys- don't sleep on it) Tres Mts
Stickers/Misc: PJ20 sticker Europe 2012 Hands sticker Europe 2012 Flags sticker NL Nederland sticker Johnny Guitar sticker Brad Best Friends sticker Backspacer bouncy ball 2005(?) guest pass 2005(?) after show 2006(?) after show ??? after show (star shape w/saturn)
some cool stuff here. was hoping to still snag a angel/ramblings 7" but it looks like those got finished out in the first round.
the one song encore is their fault for getting on stage late. they sure weren't late the second night! the printed setlist for n1 had a lot we missed out on, unfortunately.
they were fifty mins late going on at Wrigley. Not sure what their hang ups are in the Midwest, but let's hope they get it sorted out by the fall.
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I've got a fever, and the only prescription is more cowbell.
-Christopher Walken
you're=you are
your=showing ownership
The truth has a well known liberal bias.
-Stephen Colbert
PJ20 Night 1 = 28 songs. PJ20 Night 2 = 34 Songs Wrigley = 33 Songs
So much for being "late" to the stage.......
Plus, 2 AM finish time. When's the last time a major internationally touring band played past midnight? Let alone finished their set at 2 AM.
Food for thought. But, go ahead and dislike PJ20/Wrigley and don't look back with fond memories. Like Adam stated above, PJ is about the live experience, warts and flubs included. If they were perfect every night, they wouldn't be that interesting of a band to listen to or follow around the globe. Band of Skulls sounded exactly like their record when I saw them. And I was bored. No one is forcing you to look back and take the good with the bad, but, I guess, some of us have chosen to look at it that way. Did it suck to be stuck in the rain? Yes. Was I exhausted and irritated by the crowds? Yes. Did I want to scream when it took them so long to come out? Yes. Was I so tired the next day in Chicago that I did nothing but sleep and went to bed at 9 PM on a Saturday night in a hotel room? Yes. Will I brag and boast to my children and be happy that I was at PJ20 and Wrigley? Absolutely.
Take the good with the bad, because Pearl Jam's "bad" is out weighed by their good by a long shot in my opnion.
Both PJ20 & Wrigley (and Missoula) were SO much more than what happened on the stage!! The people I met at these EVENTS have become some of the BEST friends in my day to day life!! I keep in touch with my PJ FAMILY and look at our "tour time" as a big old reunion...GREAT music & INCREDIBLE friends, it doesn't get any better than that!! :-bd
'96: Seattle: Key Arena '98: Seattle: Memorial Stadium 1 & 2 '00: Columbus: Polaris '03: Columbus: Germain '10: Columbus: Nationwide Arena '11: East Troy: Alpine Valley - PJ20 1 & 2 + EV Detroit '12: Missoula + EV Jacksonville 1 & 2 '13: Chicago / Pittsburgh / Buffalo / Seattle '14: Cincinnati / St. Louis / Tulsa / Lincoln / Memphis / Detroit / Moline '15: New York City - Global Citizen Festival '16: Greenville / Hampton / Raleigh / Columbia / Lexington / Ottawa / Toronto 1 & 2 / Wrigley 1 & 2 '17: Brooklyn - Rock & Roll Hall of Fame Induction Ceremony '18: London 1 & 2 / Seattle 1 & 2 / Missoula / Wrigley 1 '22: Nashville / St. Louis
I met Dusey at the EV wishlist preparty and then reconnected at pj20 and we were fast friends and have become very very great friends.
Thanks Pearl Jam
Love meeting new people - totally agree with derbydave, it's not just the band on stage, it's the experience. Because of meeting some great "strangers", I've had years of fond concert memories, without even mentioning the actual show. Neat lil tribe we have here.
And I would give ANYTHING I own for a weekend of AMAZING music and camping with friends OUTDOORS at the most BEAUTIFUL venue in the country... THE GORGE!!! Sure hope it happens in 2015 or for PJ25!!!
'96: Seattle: Key Arena '98: Seattle: Memorial Stadium 1 & 2 '00: Columbus: Polaris '03: Columbus: Germain '10: Columbus: Nationwide Arena '11: East Troy: Alpine Valley - PJ20 1 & 2 + EV Detroit '12: Missoula + EV Jacksonville 1 & 2 '13: Chicago / Pittsburgh / Buffalo / Seattle '14: Cincinnati / St. Louis / Tulsa / Lincoln / Memphis / Detroit / Moline '15: New York City - Global Citizen Festival '16: Greenville / Hampton / Raleigh / Columbia / Lexington / Ottawa / Toronto 1 & 2 / Wrigley 1 & 2 '17: Brooklyn - Rock & Roll Hall of Fame Induction Ceremony '18: London 1 & 2 / Seattle 1 & 2 / Missoula / Wrigley 1 '22: Nashville / St. Louis
Missing out by turning down outdoor shows? I work too hard for my PJ concert money to have mother nature take a shit on it. I'll take a roof instead of a rain cloud over my head at a concert any day. :-)
I've got a fever, and the only prescription is more cowbell.
-Christopher Walken
you're=you are
your=showing ownership
The truth has a well known liberal bias.
-Stephen Colbert
I am listening to Wrigley right now and completely forgot the excellent change made to Corduroy at the end...shit like that made me forget how soaked I was. I didn't care that I stood in the rain for 3 hours...I was 3 rows from the stage and wouldn't trade that for anything. Well, maybe they could've gone without All the Way....that was corny as hell...but I hate the Cubs :-)
Chicago - 6/29/98
Indianapolis - 8/18/00
Champaign - 4/23/03
St. Paul - 6/26/06 (w/Petty)
St. Paul - 6/27/06 (w/Petty)
Chicago - 8/23/09
Minneapolis - 7/2/11 (Ed)
Alpine Valley (PJ20) - 9/3/11
Alpine Valley (PJ20) - 9/4/11
Wrigley - 7/19/13
Pittsburgh - 10/11/13
Buffalo - 10/12/13
Moline - 10/17/14
St. Paul - 10/19/14
Milwaukee - 10/20/14
Wrigley - 8/20/16
Wrigley - 8/22/16 Wrigley - 8/18/18 Wrigley - 8/20/18 St. Louis - 9/18/22 St. Paul 1 - 8/31/23 St. Paul 2 - 9/2/23 Chicago 1 - 9/5/23 Chicago 2 - 9/7/23 Wrigley - 8/29/24 Wrigley - 8/31/24
I am listening to Wrigley right now and completely forgot the excellent change made to Corduroy at the end...shit like that made me forget how soaked I was. I didn't care that I stood in the rain for 3 hours...I was 3 rows from the stage and wouldn't trade that for anything. Well, maybe they could've gone without All the Way....that was corny as hell...but I hate the Cubs :-)
Corduroy was AWESOME & I'm with you on the "All the Way" segment...I wish they had done that before the rain delay and came back out swinging after the "intermission"...but I still really enjoyed the whole Wrigley Experience!!
'96: Seattle: Key Arena '98: Seattle: Memorial Stadium 1 & 2 '00: Columbus: Polaris '03: Columbus: Germain '10: Columbus: Nationwide Arena '11: East Troy: Alpine Valley - PJ20 1 & 2 + EV Detroit '12: Missoula + EV Jacksonville 1 & 2 '13: Chicago / Pittsburgh / Buffalo / Seattle '14: Cincinnati / St. Louis / Tulsa / Lincoln / Memphis / Detroit / Moline '15: New York City - Global Citizen Festival '16: Greenville / Hampton / Raleigh / Columbia / Lexington / Ottawa / Toronto 1 & 2 / Wrigley 1 & 2 '17: Brooklyn - Rock & Roll Hall of Fame Induction Ceremony '18: London 1 & 2 / Seattle 1 & 2 / Missoula / Wrigley 1 '22: Nashville / St. Louis
I also just remembered that Imagine Dragons is playing a free show at TCF Saturday for All Star weekend...I assume you still need a "ticket" though.
I am still planning on seeing Glen Hansard on 8/5 at 1st Ave and possibly Counting Crows at Myth 7/25
Chicago - 6/29/98
Indianapolis - 8/18/00
Champaign - 4/23/03
St. Paul - 6/26/06 (w/Petty)
St. Paul - 6/27/06 (w/Petty)
Chicago - 8/23/09
Minneapolis - 7/2/11 (Ed)
Alpine Valley (PJ20) - 9/3/11
Alpine Valley (PJ20) - 9/4/11
Wrigley - 7/19/13
Pittsburgh - 10/11/13
Buffalo - 10/12/13
Moline - 10/17/14
St. Paul - 10/19/14
Milwaukee - 10/20/14
Wrigley - 8/20/16
Wrigley - 8/22/16 Wrigley - 8/18/18 Wrigley - 8/20/18 St. Louis - 9/18/22 St. Paul 1 - 8/31/23 St. Paul 2 - 9/2/23 Chicago 1 - 9/5/23 Chicago 2 - 9/7/23 Wrigley - 8/29/24 Wrigley - 8/31/24
Haha, yes they are and a new album coming out in September that actually has new material, not covers like their last album. I was more surprised that their opener, Toad the Wet Sprocket, were still together and playing
Chicago - 6/29/98
Indianapolis - 8/18/00
Champaign - 4/23/03
St. Paul - 6/26/06 (w/Petty)
St. Paul - 6/27/06 (w/Petty)
Chicago - 8/23/09
Minneapolis - 7/2/11 (Ed)
Alpine Valley (PJ20) - 9/3/11
Alpine Valley (PJ20) - 9/4/11
Wrigley - 7/19/13
Pittsburgh - 10/11/13
Buffalo - 10/12/13
Moline - 10/17/14
St. Paul - 10/19/14
Milwaukee - 10/20/14
Wrigley - 8/20/16
Wrigley - 8/22/16 Wrigley - 8/18/18 Wrigley - 8/20/18 St. Louis - 9/18/22 St. Paul 1 - 8/31/23 St. Paul 2 - 9/2/23 Chicago 1 - 9/5/23 Chicago 2 - 9/7/23 Wrigley - 8/29/24 Wrigley - 8/31/24
Comments
-Christopher Walken
you're=you are
your=showing ownership
The truth has a well known liberal bias.
-Stephen Colbert
I do have to completely disagree with you that the collabs were pointless and ramshackle though. It was a big party, and all of their friends joined in on the fun. The TOTD reunion was awesome, i loved Liam Finn's energy on 'Habit', Julian doing 'Red Mosquito' was great, enjoyed Homme on 'In the Moonlight' - it was all fun and loose. I'm guessing most of us have seen PJ multiple times - wouldn't you want unique memories and moments you'll likely never get to see again?
and josh homme on 'in the moonlight' is about as perfect a guest pairing with a pearl jam song can be. i was so glad they put that on the xasm single.
=D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D>
'98: Seattle: Memorial Stadium 1 & 2
'00: Columbus: Polaris
'03: Columbus: Germain
'10: Columbus: Nationwide Arena
'11: East Troy: Alpine Valley - PJ20 1 & 2 + EV Detroit
'12: Missoula + EV Jacksonville 1 & 2
'13: Chicago / Pittsburgh / Buffalo / Seattle
'14: Cincinnati / St. Louis / Tulsa / Lincoln / Memphis / Detroit / Moline
'15: New York City - Global Citizen Festival
'16: Greenville / Hampton / Raleigh / Columbia / Lexington / Ottawa / Toronto 1 & 2 / Wrigley 1 & 2
'17: Brooklyn - Rock & Roll Hall of Fame Induction Ceremony
'18: London 1 & 2 / Seattle 1 & 2 / Missoula / Wrigley 1
'22: Nashville / St. Louis
http://www.livefootsteps.org/user/?usr=170
just my two cents. I seem to stir the pot around here with my opinions. Hahaha.
-Christopher Walken
you're=you are
your=showing ownership
The truth has a well known liberal bias.
-Stephen Colbert
Posters:
Hartford 2006
Winnipeg 2011
Shirts:
Element tank
Reaper 08 tee
Halloween 13 tee
CDs:
Cleveland 2003
Man of the Hour
Brad - Welcome to Discovery Park
Rockfords - Waiting EP
Harrybu McCage (this is good shit, you guys- don't sleep on it)
Tres Mts
Vinyl:
2011 Xasm single
Paper:
Gorge Box Set postcards
Newsletter 7 (VHC)
Newsletter 19 (pre-Riot Act)
Newsletter 21 (Bootleg Companion)
Newsletter 24 (pre-Avocado)
Stickers/Misc:
PJ20 sticker
Europe 2012 Hands sticker
Europe 2012 Flags sticker
NL Nederland sticker
Johnny Guitar sticker
Brad Best Friends sticker
Backspacer bouncy ball
2005(?) guest pass
2005(?) after show
2006(?) after show
??? after show (star shape w/saturn)
some cool stuff here. was hoping to still snag a angel/ramblings 7" but it looks like those got finished out in the first round.
-Christopher Walken
you're=you are
your=showing ownership
The truth has a well known liberal bias.
-Stephen Colbert
PJ20 Night 2 = 34 Songs
Wrigley = 33 Songs
So much for being "late" to the stage.......
Plus, 2 AM finish time. When's the last time a major internationally touring band played past midnight? Let alone finished their set at 2 AM.
Food for thought. But, go ahead and dislike PJ20/Wrigley and don't look back with fond memories. Like Adam stated above, PJ is about the live experience, warts and flubs included. If they were perfect every night, they wouldn't be that interesting of a band to listen to or follow around the globe. Band of Skulls sounded exactly like their record when I saw them. And I was bored. No one is forcing you to look back and take the good with the bad, but, I guess, some of us have chosen to look at it that way. Did it suck to be stuck in the rain? Yes. Was I exhausted and irritated by the crowds? Yes. Did I want to scream when it took them so long to come out? Yes. Was I so tired the next day in Chicago that I did nothing but sleep and went to bed at 9 PM on a Saturday night in a hotel room? Yes. Will I brag and boast to my children and be happy that I was at PJ20 and Wrigley? Absolutely.
Take the good with the bad, because Pearl Jam's "bad" is out weighed by their good by a long shot in my opnion.
The people I met at these EVENTS have become some of the BEST friends in my day to day life!!
I keep in touch with my PJ FAMILY and look at our "tour time" as a big old reunion...GREAT music & INCREDIBLE friends, it doesn't get any better than that!!
:-bd
'98: Seattle: Memorial Stadium 1 & 2
'00: Columbus: Polaris
'03: Columbus: Germain
'10: Columbus: Nationwide Arena
'11: East Troy: Alpine Valley - PJ20 1 & 2 + EV Detroit
'12: Missoula + EV Jacksonville 1 & 2
'13: Chicago / Pittsburgh / Buffalo / Seattle
'14: Cincinnati / St. Louis / Tulsa / Lincoln / Memphis / Detroit / Moline
'15: New York City - Global Citizen Festival
'16: Greenville / Hampton / Raleigh / Columbia / Lexington / Ottawa / Toronto 1 & 2 / Wrigley 1 & 2
'17: Brooklyn - Rock & Roll Hall of Fame Induction Ceremony
'18: London 1 & 2 / Seattle 1 & 2 / Missoula / Wrigley 1
'22: Nashville / St. Louis
http://www.livefootsteps.org/user/?usr=170
Thanks Pearl Jam
I'll take indoor shows for the rest of my life.
-Christopher Walken
you're=you are
your=showing ownership
The truth has a well known liberal bias.
-Stephen Colbert
THE GORGE!!!
Sure hope it happens in 2015 or for PJ25!!!
'98: Seattle: Memorial Stadium 1 & 2
'00: Columbus: Polaris
'03: Columbus: Germain
'10: Columbus: Nationwide Arena
'11: East Troy: Alpine Valley - PJ20 1 & 2 + EV Detroit
'12: Missoula + EV Jacksonville 1 & 2
'13: Chicago / Pittsburgh / Buffalo / Seattle
'14: Cincinnati / St. Louis / Tulsa / Lincoln / Memphis / Detroit / Moline
'15: New York City - Global Citizen Festival
'16: Greenville / Hampton / Raleigh / Columbia / Lexington / Ottawa / Toronto 1 & 2 / Wrigley 1 & 2
'17: Brooklyn - Rock & Roll Hall of Fame Induction Ceremony
'18: London 1 & 2 / Seattle 1 & 2 / Missoula / Wrigley 1
'22: Nashville / St. Louis
http://www.livefootsteps.org/user/?usr=170
-Christopher Walken
you're=you are
your=showing ownership
The truth has a well known liberal bias.
-Stephen Colbert
Indianapolis - 8/18/00
Champaign - 4/23/03
St. Paul - 6/26/06 (w/Petty)
St. Paul - 6/27/06 (w/Petty)
Chicago - 8/23/09
Minneapolis - 7/2/11 (Ed)
Alpine Valley (PJ20) - 9/3/11
Alpine Valley (PJ20) - 9/4/11
Wrigley - 7/19/13
Pittsburgh - 10/11/13
Buffalo - 10/12/13
Moline - 10/17/14
St. Paul - 10/19/14
Milwaukee - 10/20/14
Wrigley - 8/20/16
Wrigley - 8/22/16
Wrigley - 8/18/18
Wrigley - 8/20/18
St. Louis - 9/18/22
St. Paul 1 - 8/31/23
St. Paul 2 - 9/2/23
Chicago 1 - 9/5/23
Chicago 2 - 9/7/23
Wrigley - 8/29/24
Wrigley - 8/31/24
'98: Seattle: Memorial Stadium 1 & 2
'00: Columbus: Polaris
'03: Columbus: Germain
'10: Columbus: Nationwide Arena
'11: East Troy: Alpine Valley - PJ20 1 & 2 + EV Detroit
'12: Missoula + EV Jacksonville 1 & 2
'13: Chicago / Pittsburgh / Buffalo / Seattle
'14: Cincinnati / St. Louis / Tulsa / Lincoln / Memphis / Detroit / Moline
'15: New York City - Global Citizen Festival
'16: Greenville / Hampton / Raleigh / Columbia / Lexington / Ottawa / Toronto 1 & 2 / Wrigley 1 & 2
'17: Brooklyn - Rock & Roll Hall of Fame Induction Ceremony
'18: London 1 & 2 / Seattle 1 & 2 / Missoula / Wrigley 1
'22: Nashville / St. Louis
http://www.livefootsteps.org/user/?usr=170
I am still planning on seeing Glen Hansard on 8/5 at 1st Ave and possibly Counting Crows at Myth 7/25
Indianapolis - 8/18/00
Champaign - 4/23/03
St. Paul - 6/26/06 (w/Petty)
St. Paul - 6/27/06 (w/Petty)
Chicago - 8/23/09
Minneapolis - 7/2/11 (Ed)
Alpine Valley (PJ20) - 9/3/11
Alpine Valley (PJ20) - 9/4/11
Wrigley - 7/19/13
Pittsburgh - 10/11/13
Buffalo - 10/12/13
Moline - 10/17/14
St. Paul - 10/19/14
Milwaukee - 10/20/14
Wrigley - 8/20/16
Wrigley - 8/22/16
Wrigley - 8/18/18
Wrigley - 8/20/18
St. Louis - 9/18/22
St. Paul 1 - 8/31/23
St. Paul 2 - 9/2/23
Chicago 1 - 9/5/23
Chicago 2 - 9/7/23
Wrigley - 8/29/24
Wrigley - 8/31/24
-Christopher Walken
you're=you are
your=showing ownership
The truth has a well known liberal bias.
-Stephen Colbert
Indianapolis - 8/18/00
Champaign - 4/23/03
St. Paul - 6/26/06 (w/Petty)
St. Paul - 6/27/06 (w/Petty)
Chicago - 8/23/09
Minneapolis - 7/2/11 (Ed)
Alpine Valley (PJ20) - 9/3/11
Alpine Valley (PJ20) - 9/4/11
Wrigley - 7/19/13
Pittsburgh - 10/11/13
Buffalo - 10/12/13
Moline - 10/17/14
St. Paul - 10/19/14
Milwaukee - 10/20/14
Wrigley - 8/20/16
Wrigley - 8/22/16
Wrigley - 8/18/18
Wrigley - 8/20/18
St. Louis - 9/18/22
St. Paul 1 - 8/31/23
St. Paul 2 - 9/2/23
Chicago 1 - 9/5/23
Chicago 2 - 9/7/23
Wrigley - 8/29/24
Wrigley - 8/31/24