The Death Penalty

callen

TB,

Agree if I had one cause would pick equal rights as well but.......

Killing is still wrong....... period.

Your buddy

Callen.

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callen said:

TB,

Agree if I had one cause would pick equal rights as well but.......

Killing is still wrong....... period.

Your buddy

Callen.

If only some mutants understood this... we wouldn't need to debate this topic.

If sick bastards would leave women and other people's children alone... we wouldn't have to sit here and wonder what to do with them in all their obscenity.

Thirty Bills Unpaid

Rhode Island serial murderer, Craig Price, just needs a chance. And he can be greatful we love to give chances to guys like Craig.

He was only 13 when he murdered one woman. He was 15 when he murdered a mom and her two daughters 10 and 8 (stabbed over 30 times).

RI law protected juvenile criminals with a very forgiving leniency policy that kids only serve to the age of 21. Of course, Price f**ked things up and continues to f**k things up that has prevented the courts from releasing him to date. For example, he stabs prison guards with homemade knives or he goes on tirades in the courts where he accuses the media of making him out to be a boogeyman.

Poor guy. He's right. People that slaughter families and never establish the fact that such an event is horrific are not monsters. They're victims- just as he says.

In 2020, coming to a neighbourhood near you, Craig Price. What could possibly go wrong?

http://www.turnto10.com/story/28710313/i-team-serial-killer-threatens-prison-guards-mentions-murders-from-1980s

Godfather.

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Rhode Island serial murderer, Craig Price, just needs a chance. And he can be greatful we love to give chances to guys like Craig.

He was only 13 when he murdered one woman. He was 15 when he murdered a mom and her two daughters 10 and 8 (stabbed over 30 times).

RI law protected juvenile criminals with a very forgiving leniency policy that kids only serve to the age of 21. Of course, Price f**ked things up and continues to f**k things up that has prevented the courts from releasing him to date. For example, he stabs prison guards with homemade knives or he goes on tirades in the courts where he accuses the media of making him out to be a boogeyman.

Poor guy. He's right. People that slaughter families and never establish the fact that such an event is horrific are not monsters. They're victims- just as he says.

In 2020, coming to a neighbourhood near you, Craig Price. What could possibly go wrong?

http://www.turnto10.com/story/28710313/i-team-serial-killer-threatens-prison-guards-mentions-murders-from-1980s

somebody(another victim) will pay for the states mistake.

Godfather.

pdalowsky

Any thoughts here on the Richard Glossip case? Surely there is one case that will bring some doubt to even the most ardent death penalty proponent

Anyway would love to hear people's views. I only know what I have read about the case on certain sites and being in the UK the coverage is almost non existent ... Although funnily enough with the date approving the interest over here is gathering pace ....

PJfanwillneverleave1

This is interesting.
https://www.themarshallproject.org/next-to-die

callen

pdalowsky said:

Any thoughts here on the Richard Glossip case? Surely there is one case that will bring some doubt to even the most ardent death penalty proponent

Anyway would love to hear people's views. I only know what I have read about the case on certain sites and being in the UK the coverage is almost non existent ... Although funnily enough with the date approving the interest over here is gathering pace ....

Been established that pro death penalty advocates are okay for a few innocents to be thrown in to satisfy thirst for blood revenge.

gimmesometruth27

callen said:

pdalowsky said:

Any thoughts here on the Richard Glossip case? Surely there is one case that will bring some doubt to even the most ardent death penalty proponent

Anyway would love to hear people's views. I only know what I have read about the case on certain sites and being in the UK the coverage is almost non existent ... Although funnily enough with the date approving the interest over here is gathering pace ....

Been established that pro death penalty advocates are okay for a few innocents to be thrown in to satisfy thirst for blood revenge.

you know, gotta break a few eggs sometimes, right?

pdalowsky

callen said:

pdalowsky said:

Any thoughts here on the Richard Glossip case? Surely there is one case that will bring some doubt to even the most ardent death penalty proponent

Anyway would love to hear people's views. I only know what I have read about the case on certain sites and being in the UK the coverage is almost non existent ... Although funnily enough with the date approving the interest over here is gathering pace ....

Been established that pro death penalty advocates are okay for a few innocents to be thrown in to satisfy thirst for blood revenge.

Fucking crazy. I don't know much but I do know his conviction seems far from guaranteed. We can only hope common sense prevails in the next few days. I'm not betting on it though.

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callen said:

pdalowsky said:

Any thoughts here on the Richard Glossip case? Surely there is one case that will bring some doubt to even the most ardent death penalty proponent

Anyway would love to hear people's views. I only know what I have read about the case on certain sites and being in the UK the coverage is almost non existent ... Although funnily enough with the date approving the interest over here is gathering pace ....

Been established that pro death penalty advocates are okay for a few innocents to be thrown in to satisfy thirst for blood revenge.

Geezuz Christ Callen.

No it hasn't. It's f**king irritating when you drag the discussion down to this level.

What would a guy like me say now? Am I supposed to state that people opposed to murderers such as Clifford Olson being executed value Olson, care nothing for his victims who should just 'get over it already' instead of trying to seek justice, and feel that his crimes were mistakes that we should simply look past while we try and rehabilitate him to be a productive member of society. They feel sorry for Olson? They think state funded university degrees, waffles, exercise and internet usage is justice for raping, murdering, and mutilating children?

Innocent people sentenced to death is horrific, but this situation speaks to the processes before sentencing. The penalty phase is after the error has been made. If you don't want innocent people executed.. then don't wrongly convict- be thorough in the investigative and trial processes. But in my mind... the fact to the matter is as follows: some people commit crimes so heinous that death is an appropriate sentence for them.

mcgruff10

The death penalty: the only issue where I'm undecided. not sure which is worse: capitol punishment or a lifetime in a little ass cell.

callen

mcgruff10 said:

The death penalty: the only issue where I'm undecided. not sure which is worse: capitol punishment or a lifetime in a little ass cell.

At least if we keep em alive we can release if innocent.

callen

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

callen said:

pdalowsky said:

Any thoughts here on the Richard Glossip case? Surely there is one case that will bring some doubt to even the most ardent death penalty proponent

Anyway would love to hear people's views. I only know what I have read about the case on certain sites and being in the UK the coverage is almost non existent ... Although funnily enough with the date approving the interest over here is gathering pace ....

Been established that pro death penalty advocates are okay for a few innocents to be thrown in to satisfy thirst for blood revenge.

Geezuz Christ Callen.

No it hasn't. It's f**king irritating when you drag the discussion down to this level.

What would a guy like me say now? Am I supposed to state that people opposed to murderers such as Clifford Olson being executed value Olson, care nothing for his victims who should just 'get over it already' instead of trying to seek justice, and feel that his crimes were mistakes that we should simply look past while we try and rehabilitate him to be a productive member of society. They feel sorry for Olson? They think state funded university degrees, waffles, exercise and internet usage is justice for raping, murdering, and mutilating children?

Innocent people sentenced to death is horrific, but this situation speaks to the processes before sentencing. The penalty phase is after the error has been made. If you don't want innocent people executed.. then don't wrongly convict- be thorough in the investigative and trial processes. But in my mind... the fact to the matter is as follows: some people commit crimes so heinous that death is an appropriate sentence for them.

Knew you'd like my post.

Thirty Bills Unpaid

callen said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

callen said:

pdalowsky said:

Any thoughts here on the Richard Glossip case? Surely there is one case that will bring some doubt to even the most ardent death penalty proponent

Anyway would love to hear people's views. I only know what I have read about the case on certain sites and being in the UK the coverage is almost non existent ... Although funnily enough with the date approving the interest over here is gathering pace ....

Been established that pro death penalty advocates are okay for a few innocents to be thrown in to satisfy thirst for blood revenge.

Geezuz Christ Callen.

No it hasn't. It's f**king irritating when you drag the discussion down to this level.

What would a guy like me say now? Am I supposed to state that people opposed to murderers such as Clifford Olson being executed value Olson, care nothing for his victims who should just 'get over it already' instead of trying to seek justice, and feel that his crimes were mistakes that we should simply look past while we try and rehabilitate him to be a productive member of society. They feel sorry for Olson? They think state funded university degrees, waffles, exercise and internet usage is justice for raping, murdering, and mutilating children?

Innocent people sentenced to death is horrific, but this situation speaks to the processes before sentencing. The penalty phase is after the error has been made. If you don't want innocent people executed.. then don't wrongly convict- be thorough in the investigative and trial processes. But in my mind... the fact to the matter is as follows: some people commit crimes so heinous that death is an appropriate sentence for them.

Knew you'd like my post.

Yah you got me in a huffy moment LOL!

mcgruff10

callen said:

mcgruff10 said:

The death penalty: the only issue where I'm undecided. not sure which is worse: capitol punishment or a lifetime in a little ass cell.

At least if we keep em alive we can release if innocent.

Excellent point!

pdalowsky

30 hours to go

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pdalowsky said:

30 hours to go

This case stinks.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/12/opinions/prejean-glossip-case/index.html

We can't be sentencing people to prison terms- let alone death- for such questionable evidence ( if that's what someone wants to call it).

Oklahoma has to have at least one reasonably intelligent person of influence to put the brakes on this calamity.

pdalowsky

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pdalowsky said:

30 hours to go

This case stinks.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/12/opinions/prejean-glossip-case/index.html

We can't be sentencing people to prison terms- let alone death- for such questionable evidence ( if that's what someone wants to call it).

Oklahoma has to have at least one reasonably intelligent person of influence to put the brakes on this calamity.

you would think and hope so, but I actually strongly doubt it.

too many egos involved, not to mention the loss of face, and the bizarre politics around it.

How its got this far is a mystery in what appears on the face if it to be one mans word over another

HughFreakingDillon

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Innocent people sentenced to death is horrific, but this situation speaks to the processes before sentencing. The penalty phase is after the error has been made. If you don't want innocent people executed.. then don't wrongly convict- be thorough in the investigative and trial processes. But in my mind... the fact to the matter is as follows: some people commit crimes so heinous that death is an appropriate sentence for them.

but it's all part of the same process. they are not independent processes. they are seperate, but not independent. you can't seperate the two and blame the part that doesn't work. especially if the part that doesn't work has a direct influence on the part you think is necessary.

in any other facet of life, if step 2 is flawed, you don't keep going to step 3, you stop further steps until step 2 is no longer flawed.

HughFreakingDillon

it is so disgusting to me that putting a man to death has more to do with saving face and politics than actual justice. beyond comprehension.