I still think it's random. A guy with a MFC shirt winning the lottery doesn't really convince me otherwise.
I would think majority of it is random winners...But, it isn't totally random....The 10c does hand pick fans to be in the front row or second row etc....
Jeremy
Either that are some people are really super lucky :roll: I know a few people that really need to go buy Powerball tickets they're so lucky to win the PJ ticket lottery so many times.
Wanted to add, it's Pearl Jam's club, they can do what they want, put whomever they want in whatever row, but don't call it a random lottery when we still see some of the same people in the front row night after night.
Ok adding something else, just read a few more posts here
If it's totally random, every night, I know 2 people that were in the front row, in KC and then the next night in STL, in the sameish seats. I mean they weren't exact because it was different venues, but close enough. THOSE 2, among a few others I've seen in the same situation, are so damn lucky they must shit horseshoes!
My number is high, but it gets me side stage Mike, usually, so I have perfect view of those first few rows.
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Well I got my win for night 1 at AV...2nd row center! I would love to win again someday but I am never greedy. I am happy to have had that experience and hope others who have yet to win have as much fun as I did when their chance happens along!
That being said, you guys can still keep me in the 10C lottery pool!!
Just look how long it takes for us to get our 10 club single and Deep magazines.....You realy think they put any thought or care into who wins the lotto??? Im betting that its not random. Or not all winners are random.
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I would think majority of it is random winners...But, it isn't totally random....The 10c does hand pick fans to be in the front row or second row etc....
i would agree with this. I think there are some Karma winners. Just look at fifthelement and rckcndy at the edmonton show. somebody lost a cell phone in calagary, couldn't find it, and moved on to edmonton for the next show. cell phone turns up in calagary, and these two fine ladies see the thread on the topic and drive out of their way to pick up and return said phone.
what happens next?
they end up front row in edmonton, get taste of ed's wine and some guitar pics.
now i don't know if they were really random, or if the pj karma gods shined down on them.
either way, i'm ok if the karma gods do shine down on poeople for whatever reason.
Me and my buddy organized the WM3 rally fundraiser in TEN DAYS!!! We managed to raise around $3000 for 10 days of busting our asses. I still sit up near the roof. Ok not really but no lottery winner here.
I would think that would bring me some karma.
And I want to say I LOVE doing the fundraisers, I always say I would do them and not go to the shows after. I always forget I'm going to a show until someone says, you better go pick up your tickets.
Man I've been whiny here lately
To 10c; "Your PJ tshirt should be tight enough to show you're a woman and loose enough to show you're a lady." - bionicamy
The fact that they will never tell you how it's done shows there is no "actual" lottery system. I'm sure all 200 or so are hand picked and given out. This obviously doesn't mean they are all frineds, etc. If they were actually using some sort of computer program they would say that instead of dodging the question every time its asked.
I'm pretty sure that I will never be chosen. In fact, they actually put me in the last row once with my number and gave me a 1998 member number when I joined in 1992 and refuse to even look into it for me. I love how there is no way they have any record of sending me tickets, fan club singles and merch from 1992-1997.
My PJ karma doesn't really exist so I will never expect to ever get a lottery seat. Thankfully I'm close enough to that range as is, especially in small cities.
I know some are random, a close friend recently did win. But IMO 3/4 are handpicked.
I completely agree with this and is why they will never tell us the process. Imagine if the powerball jackpot numbers were just posted on their website without any explanation how they were picked and multiple people kept winning. Would everyone just believe the lottery people when they said... "Trust us, it's random".
Me and my buddy organized the WM3 rally fundraiser in TEN DAYS!!! We managed to raise around $3000 for 10 days of busting our asses. I still sit up near the roof. Ok not really but no lottery winner here.
I would think that would bring me some karma.
And I want to say I LOVE doing the fundraisers, I always say I would do them and not go to the shows after. I always forget I'm going to a show until someone says, you better go pick up your tickets.
Man I've been whiny here lately
:wave:
You are awesome Mindi! Great enthusiasm, generosity and loyalty for the band
and the fans...
Thank you for all you do!
You definitely deserve the lottery either hand picked or karma,
lots of hard work you've put in ...
good vibes and admiration surrounds you!
Me and my buddy organized the WM3 rally fundraiser in TEN DAYS!!! We managed to raise around $3000 for 10 days of busting our asses. I still sit up near the roof. Ok not really but no lottery winner here.
I would think that would bring me some karma.
And I want to say I LOVE doing the fundraisers, I always say I would do them and not go to the shows after. I always forget I'm going to a show until someone says, you better go pick up your tickets.
Man I've been whiny here lately
:wave:
You are awesome Mindi! Great enthusiasm, generosity and loyalty for the band
and the fans...
Thank you for all you do!
You definitely deserve the lottery either hand picked or karma,
lots of hard work you've put in ...
good vibes and admiration surrounds you!
all i can do here is share my own experience. I have no connection to the band and i dont even tend to post a lot on this msg board and i won 10th row in toronto night 2. It was a great surprise that i never expected to happen and i cant imagine that it was anything other than a random selection.
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all i can do here is share my own experience. I have no connection to the band and i dont even tend to post a lot on this msg board and i won 10th row in toronto night 2. It was a great surprise that i never expected to happen and i cant imagine that it was anything other than a random selection.
Honestly, the amount of lottery winners from Toronto that post on these boards you can count on one hand and have leftover fingers. That would mean that the other 99% don't post here. I don't think any of us are saying that some aren't random, but it is definitely not all random and the 10 Club always skirts questions on it which doesn't help.
They clearly don't chose it based on the wittiness of one's posts on the boards, otherwise you'd all be regularly treated to a view of my tie-dyed back and rocking-out Stone Gossard hair.
They clearly don't chose it based on the wittiness of one's posts on the boards, otherwise you'd all be regularly treated to a view of my tie-dyed back and rocking-out Stone Gossard hair.
I'm pretty sure I wouldn't be behind you. Probably in the same row.
I would think majority of it is random winners...But, it isn't totally random....The 10c does hand pick fans to be in the front row or second row etc....
i would agree with this. I think there are some Karma winners. Just look at fifthelement and rckcndy at the edmonton show. somebody lost a cell phone in calagary, couldn't find it, and moved on to edmonton for the next show. cell phone turns up in calagary, and these two fine ladies see the thread on the topic and drive out of their way to pick up and return said phone.
what happens next?
they end up front row in edmonton, get taste of ed's wine and some guitar pics.
now i don't know if they were really random, or if the pj karma gods shined down on them.
either way, i'm ok if the karma gods do shine down on poeople for whatever reason.
I think this case was karma...and you cannot 'expect' karma, you have to let it happen naturally. Not every good deed will result in something good happening to you. We also missed the pre-party and got stuck in Friday afternoon traffic on Wayne Gretzky Drive.
Seating is odd, and I think it depends on the venue, how many 10c tickets are bought, etc. In Calgary, we sat 17th row on the floor, almost as good as 10th row. My ticket buddy's number isn't that good either. So, try to go to a show where there aren't as many PJ fans in the area, not as many fan club tickets will be sold, thus increasing your chances of winning.
I have a friend from Seattle that has been to 30 some odd shows and never won lottery until Vancouver. His number is pretty good too. Not sure if he posts on the boards much.
However they choose the lottery winners, they will never tell.
The joy of life comes from our encounters with new experiences, and hence there is no greater joy than to have an endlessly changing horizon, for each day to have a new and different sun.
However they choose the lottery winners, they will never tell.
Which is why it isn't actually a lottery. If it was, they would be using some sort of a computer program to randomly generate names or numbers out of those who purchased tickets for each show.
Why would they not say that? Would anyone actually be upset with that? Why would that need to be secret.
Since they don't say that, it leads me to believe that very few are actually done via an actual lottery process. Unless they consider handpicking people some form of a lottery.
Since they don't say that, it leads me to believe that very few are actually done via an actual lottery process. Unless they consider handpicking people some form of a lottery.
You know, there are real people at the 10 Club, who do things like answer email and answer the phone. Why don't you try asking them about your little conspiracy theories?
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They answered my questions promptly and to my satisfaction, i.e. it's a random lottery. If you'd like more information on how it's done, why don't you ask them? If they stonewall you, then you have something to talk about, otherwise you all are just talking out of your respective nether regions.
Since they don't say that, it leads me to believe that very few are actually done via an actual lottery process. Unless they consider handpicking people some form of a lottery.
You know, there are real people at the 10 Club, who do things like answer email and answer the phone. Why don't you try asking them about your little conspiracy theories?
•All questions related to the tour schedule and ticketing can be directed to <!-- e --><a href="mailto:tickets@tenclub.net">tickets@tenclub.net</a><!-- e -->. Your e-mail will be answered in the order it was received. Please have patience so we can service everyone with equal respect.
•All questions regarding your membership or eligibility can be directed to <!-- e --><a href="mailto:info@tenclub.net">info@tenclub.net</a><!-- e -->. Again, please have patience and we will respond to your concerns as soon as we can!
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They answered my questions promptly and to my satisfaction, i.e. it's a random lottery. If you'd like more information on how it's done, why don't you ask them? If they stonewall you, then you have something to talk about, otherwise you all are just talking out of your respective nether regions.
What?? Actually go to the source and try to get an answer to a question??
that's preposterous!!!!
Didn't you know the lottery is a covert operation and the 10Club would only tell you what you think they
want you to believe?
besides, it would just give these whiners 1 less thing to whine about.
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Wanted to add, it's Pearl Jam's club, they can do what they want, put whomever they want in whatever row, but don't call it a random lottery when we still see some of the same people in the front row night after night.
Ok adding something else, just read a few more posts here
If it's totally random, every night, I know 2 people that were in the front row, in KC and then the next night in STL, in the sameish seats. I mean they weren't exact because it was different venues, but close enough. THOSE 2, among a few others I've seen in the same situation, are so damn lucky they must shit horseshoes!
My number is high, but it gets me side stage Mike, usually, so I have perfect view of those first few rows.
That being said, you guys can still keep me in the 10C lottery pool!!
i would agree with this. I think there are some Karma winners. Just look at fifthelement and rckcndy at the edmonton show. somebody lost a cell phone in calagary, couldn't find it, and moved on to edmonton for the next show. cell phone turns up in calagary, and these two fine ladies see the thread on the topic and drive out of their way to pick up and return said phone.
what happens next?
they end up front row in edmonton, get taste of ed's wine and some guitar pics.
now i don't know if they were really random, or if the pj karma gods shined down on them.
either way, i'm ok if the karma gods do shine down on poeople for whatever reason.
why was i selected.
Me and my buddy organized the WM3 rally fundraiser in TEN DAYS!!! We managed to raise around $3000 for 10 days of busting our asses. I still sit up near the roof. Ok not really but no lottery winner here.
I would think that would bring me some karma.
And I want to say I LOVE doing the fundraisers, I always say I would do them and not go to the shows after. I always forget I'm going to a show until someone says, you better go pick up your tickets.
Man I've been whiny here lately
I'm pretty sure that I will never be chosen. In fact, they actually put me in the last row once with my number and gave me a 1998 member number when I joined in 1992 and refuse to even look into it for me. I love how there is no way they have any record of sending me tickets, fan club singles and merch from 1992-1997.
My PJ karma doesn't really exist so I will never expect to ever get a lottery seat. Thankfully I'm close enough to that range as is, especially in small cities.
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I completely agree with this and is why they will never tell us the process. Imagine if the powerball jackpot numbers were just posted on their website without any explanation how they were picked and multiple people kept winning. Would everyone just believe the lottery people when they said... "Trust us, it's random".
8/15/92, 9/28/96, 8/28/98, 8/29/98, 9/18/98, 8/3/00, 8/9/00, 8/10/00, 8/23/00, 8/25/00, 9/1/00, 9/2/00, 4/28/03, 6/18/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 10/1/04, 10/3/05, 6/19/08, 10/27/09, 10/31/09, 5/21/10, 9/3/11, 9/4/11, 10/21/13
More to Come....
You are awesome Mindi! Great enthusiasm, generosity and loyalty for the band
and the fans...
Thank you for all you do!
You definitely deserve the lottery either hand picked or karma,
lots of hard work you've put in ...
good vibes and admiration surrounds you!
Praying 2012 is your year!
:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:
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More to Come....
And Pandora I still have people asking where we got the magnets you guys donated in STL, they were completely awesome!
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Honestly, the amount of lottery winners from Toronto that post on these boards you can count on one hand and have leftover fingers. That would mean that the other 99% don't post here. I don't think any of us are saying that some aren't random, but it is definitely not all random and the 10 Club always skirts questions on it which doesn't help.
Congrats by the way you lucky devil.
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More to Come....
2012 can't come fast enough for me!
I hope you do as well.
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I'm pretty sure I wouldn't be behind you. Probably in the same row.
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More to Come....
I think this case was karma...and you cannot 'expect' karma, you have to let it happen naturally. Not every good deed will result in something good happening to you. We also missed the pre-party and got stuck in Friday afternoon traffic on Wayne Gretzky Drive.
Seating is odd, and I think it depends on the venue, how many 10c tickets are bought, etc. In Calgary, we sat 17th row on the floor, almost as good as 10th row. My ticket buddy's number isn't that good either. So, try to go to a show where there aren't as many PJ fans in the area, not as many fan club tickets will be sold, thus increasing your chances of winning.
I have a friend from Seattle that has been to 30 some odd shows and never won lottery until Vancouver. His number is pretty good too. Not sure if he posts on the boards much.
However they choose the lottery winners, they will never tell.
- Christopher McCandless
Which is why it isn't actually a lottery. If it was, they would be using some sort of a computer program to randomly generate names or numbers out of those who purchased tickets for each show.
Why would they not say that? Would anyone actually be upset with that? Why would that need to be secret.
Since they don't say that, it leads me to believe that very few are actually done via an actual lottery process. Unless they consider handpicking people some form of a lottery.
8/15/92, 9/28/96, 8/28/98, 8/29/98, 9/18/98, 8/3/00, 8/9/00, 8/10/00, 8/23/00, 8/25/00, 9/1/00, 9/2/00, 4/28/03, 6/18/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 10/1/04, 10/3/05, 6/19/08, 10/27/09, 10/31/09, 5/21/10, 9/3/11, 9/4/11, 10/21/13
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Just sayin'
thank you.
Where I'm not ugly and you're lookin' at me
Good luck.
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You know, there are real people at the 10 Club, who do things like answer email and answer the phone. Why don't you try asking them about your little conspiracy theories?
They answered my questions promptly and to my satisfaction, i.e. it's a random lottery. If you'd like more information on how it's done, why don't you ask them? If they stonewall you, then you have something to talk about, otherwise you all are just talking out of your respective nether regions.
What?? Actually go to the source and try to get an answer to a question??
that's preposterous!!!!
Didn't you know the lottery is a covert operation and the 10Club would only tell you what you think they
want you to believe?
besides, it would just give these whiners 1 less thing to whine about.
8/15/92, 9/28/96, 8/28/98, 8/29/98, 9/18/98, 8/3/00, 8/9/00, 8/10/00, 8/23/00, 8/25/00, 9/1/00, 9/2/00, 4/28/03, 6/18/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 10/1/04, 10/3/05, 6/19/08, 10/27/09, 10/31/09, 5/21/10, 9/3/11, 9/4/11, 10/21/13
More to Come....
hate to tell you...the winning ticket is in my wallet.
I'm beginning to think they just don't like you.