Two of three WM3 to be freed tomorrow

pjcordpjcord Posts: 78
edited August 2011 in A Moving Train
Eddie should be in a good mood as we approach Alpine, although it's a bit bittersweet with how it has to happen (admission of guilt) ...


WREG-TV has learned an agreement has been reached to release two of the West Memphis 3.

Multiple sources, including the father of one of the victims, have confirmed this will be announced at a special hearing Friday. That hearing is scheduled to be held in Jonesboro, AR.

All three will admit guilt to the crime and two will be released with time served.

Steve Branch, the father of one of the victims tells us Damien Echols will be one of the men released.

Damien Echols was sentenced to death, Jessie Misskelley, Jr. was sentenced to life imprisonment plus two 20-year sentences, and Jason Baldwin was sentenced to life imprisonment.

Stevie Branch, Michael Moore, and Christopher Byers were found murdered and mutilated in a wooded area in West Memphis, Arkansas in May 1993.

Recent tests on DNA evidence, including material from the crime scene, was found to not be a match to the defendants.

Many say Echols, Baldwin and Misskelley were wrongly convicted because police needed a quick solution to the case.

Numerous celebrities have taken up the WM3 cause over the years.
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  • krymsinkrymsin Posts: 75
    This is from the WM3 blog:

    http://wm3org.typepad.com/blog/2011/08/ ... w-wm3.html

    BREAKING: Surprise West Memphis 3 hearing tomorrow #wm3

    Posted by Max Brantley on Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 10:40 AM

    Big news is expected in circuit court in Jonesboro when Judge David Laser holds a hearing Friday morning — just announced today — on the West Memphis Three case. Families of defendants and victims are expected to be in court, suggesting far more than routine procedural matters are at hand.

    None of the interested parties are talking (lawyers are gagged), beyond saying that those interested in the case will want to be present. But I began making calls early this morning when I received a tip from a local attorney predicting earth-shaking developments.

    The facts are well-known. Damien Echols, who is on Death Row, and Jason Baldwin and Jessie Misskelley Jr., who are serving life sentences, were convicted in the 1993 slaying of three West Memphis children — Christopher Byers, Stevie Branch and Michael Moore. The trials, though marred by bogus claims of Satanism and shoddy investigative tactics, had withstood appeals until recent developments allowed examination of DNA evidence. To date, none of the DNA gathered in the case has matched any of the defendants. That doesn't exonerate them, but it was powerful new evidence that they weren't involved in the crime. Strong new evidence also was introduced about potential jury misconduct, specifically improper consideration of a statement made by one of the defendants. All that prompted the Arkansas Supreme Court to order a new evidentiary hearing to see whether the defendants were entitled to a new trial. Judge Laser was assigned to hear the case. The previous judge, David Burnett, now is a state senator.

    The evidentiary hearing was scheduled for December. The surprise hearing tomorrow alone suggests a major development is at hand. The buzz in the defense bar community is that the news is beyond major. Until now, Attorney General Dustin McDaniel's office has fought vigorously against new proceedings for the defendants and in support of their convictions. A development tomorrow in which he joined in a defense suggestion would be momentous, indeed. Freedom for the WM3? The speculation today includes that possibility, though questions are numerous about how you'd reach such an outcome and, if it were to happen, whether it would include pronouncements on guilt or innocence or state liability.

    The judge's office released this statement about Friday's hearing:

    The court will take up certain matters pertaining to the cases of defendants Baldwin, Echols and Misskelley on Friday, August 19. One session will be conducted out of public presence with all defendants present and another session will be conducted in open court. The session conducted in chambers will likely begin at 10 a.m. followed by a public session which will begin about 11 a.m. Space will be limited for the public session — first to the parties, counsel and court personnel, then to family members of the victims and family members of defendants with remaining seating to be occupied by media representatives and the public. There will be approximately 15 minutes between the chamber session and open session for media and public to be seated. Miss Stephanie Harris, Arkansas Supreme Court communication counsel, will be present on Friday to assist with implementation and will be the court's intermediary with public and press.
    Mara Leveritt, our senior editor who's done groundbreaking reporting on the case and who wrote the book Devil's Knot about the case, will be in Jonesboro for tomorrow's hearing. She has a subscription website at her homepage for reporting on the case.
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  • benjsbenjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,192
    I apologize if this is a dumb question with an obvious answer that I'm just missing, but is this a confession? "All three will admit guilt to the crime and two will be released with time served."
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  • capthowdy1027capthowdy1027 Posts: 3,270
    benjs wrote:
    I apologize if this is a dumb question with an obvious answer that I'm just missing, but is this a confession? "All three will admit guilt to the crime and two will be released with time served."

    I'm confused by this as well. Why are they admitting they are guilty and still being released?
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  • tremorstremors Posts: 8,051
    benjs wrote:
    I apologize if this is a dumb question with an obvious answer that I'm just missing, but is this a confession? "All three will admit guilt to the crime and two will be released with time served."

    Sounds strange indeed. Maybe we should wait for what comes out of tomorrow.
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  • pjcordpjcord Posts: 78
    "Credit for time served" is why they can admit guilt and be released. Legal term. As part of the deal they arranged the judge will rule that 18 years in prison is enough time served for the crime they are admitting they committed. As I said, bittersweet.
  • butte1butte1 Posts: 379
    With all due respect, I agree that the trial and the investigation were an absolute atrocity. But on the other hand, these guys are hardly salt of the earth individuals and if I were a betting man, I would bet all of them will be back in prison within five years for some other crime they commit where the trial and investigation are done properly. Just a hunch, sorry to be a downer......
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  • yeah ill wait on more information because this is still confusing to me. Why would they have to admit guilt to be released (???) if there is no evidence (DNA evidence) that they were the ones who committed the crime?
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  • capthowdy1027capthowdy1027 Posts: 3,270
    I've been a WM3 supporter for years but it's going to be hard to stomach a release with them saying that they did do it.
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  • benjsbenjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,192
    edited August 2011
    pjcord wrote:
    "Credit for time served" is why they can admit guilt and be released. Legal term. As part of the deal they arranged the judge will rule that 18 years in prison is enough time served for the crime they are admitting they committed. As I said, bittersweet.
    Thanks... I figured it had something to do with legalese. If these men are innocent and will live with the brand of murderers for the rest of their lives, I'd hardly call that freedom, and this will continue to be a tremendous failure of the legal system. This is likely because some very arrogant people can't bear to face the fact that they have taken the easy route out, and three boys lost a good fraction of their lives, and the remainder of their lives will never be rid of that brand.
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  • I've been a WM3 supporter for years but it's going to be hard to stomach a release with them saying that they did do it.

    If they do, but yeah thats gonna be a hard one to swallow
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  • AmishGuy91AmishGuy91 Posts: 834
    Hmmm...this doesn't make sense. They continue to state their innocence and remain in jail...or admit their guilt and get released? Me thinks this isn't the story we'll see tomorrow.
  • Empty GlassEmpty Glass In Rob's shed Posts: 12,329
    AmishGuy91 wrote:
    Hmmm...this doesn't make sense. They continue to state their innocence and remain in jail...or admit their guilt and get released? Me thinks this isn't the story we'll see tomorrow.

    Agreed. Or is this the way the State can say "case closed"? Will read more tomorrow.
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  • benjsbenjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,192
    AmishGuy91 wrote:
    Hmmm...this doesn't make sense. They continue to state their innocence and remain in jail...or admit their guilt and get released? Me thinks this isn't the story we'll see tomorrow.
    The sad thing is, the people who might have made big mistakes are the ones with the power... Unfortunately, this makes perfect sense to me. Keep the powerful people powerful by showing the world they didn't make mistakes, but get the boys out of prison because deep down, they know they were innocent. If they get released tomorrow, in my opinion, this will remain as fucked up and corrupt as it started.
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  • dimitrispearljamdimitrispearljam Posts: 139,721
    Or is this the way the State can say "case closed"? .
    seems that way
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  • Local news is saying that two of the three will be released after admitting guilt and being granted time served. I'm from Jonesboro, I really wish I could be there. If I can figure out a way to leave work for a little while....
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  • EquallyWorthlessEquallyWorthless Posts: 3,993
    edited August 2011
    pjcord wrote:
    "Credit for time served" is why they can admit guilt and be released. Legal term. As part of the deal they arranged the judge will rule that 18 years in prison is enough time served for the crime they are admitting they committed. As I said, bittersweet.

    It also means that they can never, ever be charged for this crime again, meaning if, for whatever reason, something goes south in the next few years, they cant be held (wrongly?) accountable again.
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  • Damien's first PJ show will be one hell of a show 15 days after his release. Going to be very emotional for Eddie if Damien is in attendance!
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  • It isn't really bad that they are "admitting guilt" for the reasons stated in this particular case, I would almost be willing to bet that it was their legal team who suggested it.
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  • dimitrispearljamdimitrispearljam Posts: 139,721
    pjcord wrote:
    "Credit for time served" is why they can admit guilt and be released. Legal term. As part of the deal they arranged the judge will rule that 18 years in prison is enough time served for the crime they are admitting they committed. As I said, bittersweet.

    It also means that they can never, ever be charged for this crime again, meaning if, for whatever reason, something goes south in the next few years, they cant be held (wrongly?) accountable again.
    that explains alot
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  • solacesolace Posts: 114
    fwiw, from Twitter:
    @ArkansasBlog tells @ActionNews5 #WM3 defendants unlikely to admit guilt in court tomorrow. More likely they'll plead "no contest"
  • krymsinkrymsin Posts: 75
    This sounds like a classic plea agreement.

    They'll "admit" to committing a crime -- possibly one less heinous than the ones they were tried on -- and be released. That way, the state saves face and the defendants go free. Fair? No -- but it's the way of the system.

    The curious part, to me, is that only 2 of the 3 will be let go. I wonder if one is refusing to agree to one of the state's (likely ridiculous) demands.
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  • PillowPantsPillowPants Posts: 4,877
    so what song will this lead to at PJ20?
  • solacesolace Posts: 114
    so what song will this lead to at PJ20?

    Rockin' In The Free World?

    lulz.

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  • capthowdy1027capthowdy1027 Posts: 3,270
    Rumor I'm reading now is that all 3 of them are to be released and that they've all already left prison with all of their personal belongings.
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  • tremorstremors Posts: 8,051
    http://www.commercialappeal.com/news/20 ... his-three/

    Prosecutors and defense attorneys are working out a deal that could result in the release of the West Memphis Three murder defendants as early as Friday, according to legal sources and relatives of victims.

    "It's a high probability," said Jackie Byers, 44, wife of John Mark Byers, whose son was one of three 8-year-old boys found nude and hog-tied in 1993 in a watery ditch in West Memphis. "We've been asked not to say anything until after tomorrow."

    A source close to the case said the pending deal involves the immediate release of defendants Damien Echols, Jason Baldwin and Jessie Misskelley in return for pleas to lesser charges. All three were convicted of capital murder in 1994. Echols was sentenced to death, while Baldwin and Misskelley are serving life terms

    "This deal is going to make everybody happy," said a source who asked not to be identified because of a gag order barring parties to the case from discussing it.

    Byers said she, too, was told of the pleas. She said she's glad the three defendants will be released but is upset that they must plea to something she believes they didn't do.

    "This means they will never be proven innocent," said Byers, who, like many other followers of the case have been persuaded of the three's innocence by new evidence, including DNA evidence, uncovered in recent years. "All of that (new evidence) might go down the toilet and be lost forever."

    Recent DNA testing pointed a finger at a fourth, uncharged individual.
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  • Rumor I'm reading now is that all 3 of them are to be released and that they've all already left prison with all of their personal belongings.

    Yeah, the report said all three left maximum security prisons earlier today with all their belongings. It doesn't make sense that only two would be released.
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  • gumby812gumby812 ABQ Posts: 53
    Have left prison with all of their belongings and are not expected back!
  • tremorstremors Posts: 8,051
    Just been reading about this 'nolo contendre' - plea of no contest.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nolo_contendere

    Sounds likely that this is what they will go with - would seem a good deal for them, and is certainly not an admission of guilt, as being reported in some quarters
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