The REAL Rick Perry

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  • ParachuteParachute Posts: 409
    Byrnzie wrote:
    Parachute wrote:
    All of a sudden this 11 year Governor of the largerst state in the Union, isn't qualified to be Prez b/c there is too much disparity b/w the classes in his state, or not all the jobs created in his state offer 401K and free everything- or TX tuna isn't as dolphin-safe as you'd prefer...

    Actually, if you read the op you'll see that there's plenty more to it than just this.

    But then attempting to simplify the issue by ignoring 99% of the facts presented seems to be your only hope in this thread.


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  • ParachuteParachute Posts: 409
    fuck wrote:
    I actually would not mind a conservative nut job in the White House. you know what? under barack obama, we've had an absolutely shitty time. the wars have continued, the economy is still in shambles, corporate bail outs still going on, health care bill was shit, immigration has not been dealt with, civil liberties nearly non existent. what the fuck has obama done?

    oh, let us not forget obama's biggest accomplishment: the murder of the liberal opposition movement which led to a rise in another opposition movement: the tea party. how fucking embarrassing is it that the opposition movement in the U.S. is the tea party? the leftwing liberal movement is dead thanks to BO's presidency. and has he actually done anything decent? no, he hasn't. atleast if a crazy rightwing president took the presidency, the liberal movement would rise again, this time probably stronger than it ever has. people are not going to change things by electing "moderate" pieces of shit like Barack Obama. It's going to take a real people's movement to do anything and so long as this president is still in power, we will keep hearing BS words like "compromise" and "moderate" and all this crap which really means let's see how close we can get to the republicans before they finally say OK. the crazier the man in the White House is, like, say, rick Perry or Sarah palin, the stronger the opposition movements will be and the more radical the change they demand will be. atleast I hope so. anyway that's just my opinion. I'm looking forward to not voting next election. I'd honestly rather stay home and smoke a J

    So we're in agreement about one thing.

    Obama is a failure.
  • ParachuteParachute Posts: 409
    polaris_x wrote:
    Parachute wrote:
    There is no way to debate someone who deals in lies. "Don;t deal in lies."- Kipling
    Perry has been the Gov of TEXAS for 11 years.
    How that is LESS experienced than a one term Senator- I do not know.
    Your arguments are ones of emotion, and not intellect.
    I gotta stop reading your posts now, b/c it's like debating a Tickle-me-Elmo.
    All the best, your Highness...

    he said less QUALIFIED ... experience or time as governor does not equate to being qualified ... perhaps your inability to distinguish the two is a reflection of your emotional argument and intellect!?


    Same thing. I really can't believe you even tried that argument... You usually debate better than that.

    Splittin hairs like Bill Clinton. "Depends what the definition of 'is', is."

    I'm talkin about EXECUTIVE experience/qualification. There is no comparison.

    you had it right in your last post though:
    "ignorance and inability for people to think critically is destroying the left and it is pretty much dead ..."

    On that, you've never been more right. Haha. get it? "been more right?"
    haha,...
    It's gonna be a great year.
    woot.
  • ParachuteParachute Posts: 409
    pjhawks wrote:
    Parachute wrote:
    And to your point, I understand most of the jobs are related to the oil industry- which is an advantage most states don't share... It will be interesting to see how the candidates spin it.

    No candidate is perfect, and I'm sure that Perry and I will disagree on some issues, but turning this economy around is my number one priority, and Obama's philosophies are a failure- he could be President for 100 years and still wouldn't work. They just stifle growth. Perry's desire to shrink government and gov't spending, cut taxes and bolster our strong national defense is what I'll be voting for.

    It's just a philisophical difference, not personal.

    And you may be right about Alaska- I will look it up- if so, well played.

    why would you bolster our defense? a) we have no current sworn enemy state like Russians in the 80s so there is no reason to bolster defense especially if you believe in ending the current wars we are in, and b) bolstering defense and cutting government spending is impossible to do together. you can't cut government spending while bolstering the largest portion of govevnment spending we already do.

    next.....


    haha. OK Ron Paul. Have some more of that poppy-field creation.

    Bolster military. Cut free stuff for gov't tit-suckers. There I just did it.

    and Perry will too.
  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    Parachute wrote:
    Same thing. I really can't believe you even tried that argument... You usually debate better than that.

    Splittin hairs like Bill Clinton. "Depends what the definition of 'is', is."

    I'm talkin about EXECUTIVE experience/qualification. There is no comparison.

    you had it right in your last post though:
    "ignorance and inability for people to think critically is destroying the left and it is pretty much dead ..."

    On that, you've never been more right. Haha. get it? "been more right?"
    haha,...
    It's gonna be a great year.
    woot.

    soo ... if someone like say henry waxman ran ... he would be more qualified than perry?
  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    Parachute wrote:
    Bolster military. Cut free stuff for gov't tit-suckers. There I just did it.

    Why do you think your military needs bolstering? What do you feel so threatened by? If I took away all of your imagined enemies today what would your brain do with all that free time?
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    as long as we are possibly voting for unpopular texans with good hair and a gun, maybe this dude should enter the race as well...

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  • pjhawkspjhawks Posts: 12,596
    Parachute wrote:
    pjhawks wrote:
    Parachute wrote:
    And to your point, I understand most of the jobs are related to the oil industry- which is an advantage most states don't share... It will be interesting to see how the candidates spin it.

    No candidate is perfect, and I'm sure that Perry and I will disagree on some issues, but turning this economy around is my number one priority, and Obama's philosophies are a failure- he could be President for 100 years and still wouldn't work. They just stifle growth. Perry's desire to shrink government and gov't spending, cut taxes and bolster our strong national defense is what I'll be voting for.

    It's just a philisophical difference, not personal.

    And you may be right about Alaska- I will look it up- if so, well played.

    why would you bolster our defense? a) we have no current sworn enemy state like Russians in the 80s so there is no reason to bolster defense especially if you believe in ending the current wars we are in, and b) bolstering defense and cutting government spending is impossible to do together. you can't cut government spending while bolstering the largest portion of govevnment spending we already do.

    next.....


    haha. OK Ron Paul. Have some more of that poppy-field creation.

    Bolster military. Cut free stuff for gov't tit-suckers. There I just did it.

    and Perry will too.

    actually no if you cut one but add one you are still spending at the same level. and i agree there should be some limits on sucking at the government teet and those expenditures are too high but they are still a small percentage of our government spending.

    but i'd love to hear real ideas and not just a general 'cut free-stuff'
  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,157
    Parachute wrote:
    Bolster military.
    What would you bolster?
    Be Excellent To Each Other
    Party On, Dudes!
  • Parachute wrote:
    There is no way to debate someone who deals in lies.

    And yet I respond to you anyway.
    Perry has been the Gov of TEXAS for 11 years.
    How that is LESS experienced than a one term Senator- I do not know.

    I didn't say less experienced, I said less qualified. And I'm right.
  • Parachute wrote:

    Same thing. .



    Except no. It's not.

    You clearly know very little about Perry's abysmal record as governor. He would drive the world into a place that even you don't want to be.
  • keeponrockinkeeponrockin Posts: 7,446
    I don't think there's a bigger government tit-sucker than the military industrial complex.

    And Parachute, aren't Republicans all about personal responsibility? If so, why is it illegal for me to smoke a joint? It's my choice isn't it, I'm not hurting anybody else.
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  • ComeToTXComeToTX Austin Posts: 7,876
    Perry in his formal announcement on Saturday:
    -"The United States of America really is the last great hope of mankind."

    This may be the stupidest thing I've ever heard. Why do these guys think people born in this country are so much better than those around the world? It's an ignorant and arrogant way of thinking that makes us look terrible.

    Also, didn't he hold the day of prayer because God was the last hope for mankind? And how is the praying for rain thing working out for him?
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  • arthurdentarthurdent Posts: 969
    ComeToTX wrote:
    Perry in his formal announcement on Saturday:
    -"The United States of America really is the last great hope of mankind."

    Does that make him Obi-Wan Kenobi, then????
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  • JonnyPistachioJonnyPistachio Florida Posts: 10,219
    ComeToTX wrote:
    Perry in his formal announcement on Saturday:
    -"The United States of America really is the last great hope of mankind."

    This may be the stupidest thing I've ever heard. Why do these guys think people born in this country are so much better than those around the world? It's an ignorant and arrogant way of thinking that makes us look terrible.

    Also, didn't he hold the day of prayer because God was the last hope for mankind? And how is the praying for rain thing working out for him?

    :lol:
    That line was pretty f-ing funny. What is this a reality show? The "last great hope of mankind"? thats priceless. :lol:
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  • pjhawkspjhawks Posts: 12,596
    ComeToTX wrote:
    Perry in his formal announcement on Saturday:
    -"The United States of America really is the last great hope of mankind."

    This may be the stupidest thing I've ever heard. Why do these guys think people born in this country are so much better than those around the world? It's an ignorant and arrogant way of thinking that makes us look terrible.

    Also, didn't he hold the day of prayer because God was the last hope for mankind? And how is the praying for rain thing working out for him?

    :lol:
    That line was pretty f-ing funny. What is this a reality show? The "last great hope of mankind"? thats priceless. :lol:

    and does that line mean he thinks aliens (or apes) are coming to defeat 'mankind' like in the movies?
  • JonnyPistachioJonnyPistachio Florida Posts: 10,219
    pjhawks wrote:
    ComeToTX wrote:
    Perry in his formal announcement on Saturday:
    -"The United States of America really is the last great hope of mankind."

    This may be the stupidest thing I've ever heard. Why do these guys think people born in this country are so much better than those around the world? It's an ignorant and arrogant way of thinking that makes us look terrible.

    Also, didn't he hold the day of prayer because God was the last hope for mankind? And how is the praying for rain thing working out for him?

    :lol:
    That line was pretty f-ing funny. What is this a reality show? The "last great hope of mankind"? thats priceless. :lol:

    and does that line mean he thinks aliens (or apes) are coming to defeat 'mankind' like in the movies?

    If that really were to happen, his plan would backfire because Bill Pullman is the only obvious choice for President if aliens attack. ;)
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  • ParachuteParachute Posts: 409
    edited August 2011
    polaris_x wrote:
    Parachute wrote:
    Same thing. I really can't believe you even tried that argument... You usually debate better than that.

    Splittin hairs like Bill Clinton. "Depends what the definition of 'is', is."

    I'm talkin about EXECUTIVE experience/qualification. There is no comparison.

    you had it right in your last post though:
    "ignorance and inability for people to think critically is destroying the left and it is pretty much dead ..."

    On that, you've never been more right. Haha. get it? "been more right?"
    haha,...
    It's gonna be a great year.
    woot.


    :lol: I gotta say, that was a good one... I can only say that while traditionally, Governors have had a better record getting elected President than Senators and Congressmen, Waxman- jesus- even Waxman, is technically more experienced and qualified than Obama.

    At least he's governed a committee. well played.
    soo ... if someone like say henry waxman ran ... he would be more qualified than perry?


    Somethin got fucked up in this quote and reply to Polaris-x, and I can't fix it. Im too dumb.
    Post edited by Parachute on
  • ParachuteParachute Posts: 409
    as long as we are possibly voting for unpopular texans with good hair and a gun, maybe this dude should enter the race as well...

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    Is that Matthew Mchaughaeney, or however the hell you spell it?
  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    Parachute wrote:
    as long as we are possibly voting for unpopular texans with good hair and a gun, maybe this dude should enter the race as well...

    images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSWugcAn-M40mB8eqYkPWaUweWHR5fQs-bnxtQxUeSPMS5_NlTR


    Is that Matthew Mchaughaeney, or however the hell you spell it?

    can't tell ... shirt is on ... :geek:
  • ParachuteParachute Posts: 409
    edited August 2011
    I don't think there's a bigger government tit-sucker than the military industrial complex.

    And Parachute, aren't Republicans all about personal responsibility? If so, why is it illegal for me to smoke a joint? It's my choice isn't it, I'm not hurting anybody else.


    No, conservatives are all about individaul reponsibility. Republicans are all about Republicans.
    You've jumped to conclusions before about my party affiliations, Bush being "my guy" and what not. step back and breathe.

    If you worked and earned the money to buy that J, then be my guest. If you be cashin checks, dawg, and using my benjamins to get lifted yo, then protest, I must.

    PS: It's illegal, I guess, b/c the people of state you live in want it that way. But if it was up to the FED, you would NEVER be able to light up. Keep that in mind as you rail against state's rights and glorify all things centralized.
    Post edited by Parachute on
  • ParachuteParachute Posts: 409
    ComeToTX wrote:
    Perry in his formal announcement on Saturday:
    -"The United States of America really is the last great hope of mankind."

    This may be the stupidest thing I've ever heard. Why do these guys think people born in this country are so much better than those around the world? It's an ignorant and arrogant way of thinking that makes us look terrible.

    Also, didn't he hold the day of prayer because God was the last hope for mankind? And how is the praying for rain thing working out for him?


    Either you are very short, or Perry is very tall, but this went right over your head.

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  • ComeToTXComeToTX Austin Posts: 7,876
    I'm a liberal? Thanks for letting me know. My problem with Perry isn't that he's a conservative it's that he's not very bright. Most of us in his state have learned that, which is why he can't get 40% of the vote.
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  • ParachuteParachute Posts: 409
    ComeToTX wrote:
    I'm a liberal? Thanks for letting me know. My problem with Perry isn't that he's a conservative it's that he's not very bright. Most of us in his state have learned that, which is why he can't get 40% of the vote.

    Well, if being :bright" is all it takes, then maybe you should run.


    The red states (that PJ won't play) will help Perry get over the hump.

    Funny that your state is fairing better than any other in this Obama Depression, yet all you do is complain...

    Why not move to NY, or Cali? Maybe their Governors would be more to your liking?
  • ComeToTXComeToTX Austin Posts: 7,876
    Parachute wrote:
    ComeToTX wrote:
    I'm a liberal? Thanks for letting me know. My problem with Perry isn't that he's a conservative it's that he's not very bright. Most of us in his state have learned that, which is why he can't get 40% of the vote.

    Well, if being :bright" is all it takes, then maybe you should run.


    The red states (that PJ won't play) will help Perry get over the hump.

    Funny that your state is fairing better than any other in this Obama Depression, yet all you do is complain...

    Why not move to NY, or Cali? Maybe their Governors would be more to your liking?

    I'm not wealthy and can't be bought by corporations or lobbyists so I can't run.

    My life is very good. I make good money at a pretty easy job. Unlike you I don't only give a shit about myself. I care about other people in this country that don't have jobs or options. You need to realize that job growth in TX has almost nothing to do with Rick Perry. He literally has less power than the Lt. Gov.

    Why don't I move? Pretty childish argument.
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  • ComeToTXComeToTX Austin Posts: 7,876
    Parachute wrote:
    ComeToTX wrote:
    I'm a liberal? Thanks for letting me know. My problem with Perry isn't that he's a conservative it's that he's not very bright. Most of us in his state have learned that, which is why he can't get 40% of the vote.

    Well, if being :bright" is all it takes, then maybe you should run.


    The red states (that PJ won't play) will help Perry get over the hump.

    Funny that your state is fairing better than any other in this Obama Depression, yet all you do is complain...

    Why not move to NY, or Cali? Maybe their Governors would be more to your liking?

    Are you saying W had nothing to do with our current economic state? If so I can just ignore you from now on because you're obviously delusional.
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  • JonnyPistachioJonnyPistachio Florida Posts: 10,219
    Parachute wrote:
    ComeToTX wrote:
    I'm a liberal? Thanks for letting me know. My problem with Perry isn't that he's a conservative it's that he's not very bright. Most of us in his state have learned that, which is why he can't get 40% of the vote.

    Well, if being :bright" is all it takes, then maybe you should run.


    The red states (that PJ won't play) will help Perry get over the hump.

    Funny that your state is fairing better than any other in this Obama Depression, yet all you do is complain...

    Why not move to NY, or Cali? Maybe their Governors would be more to your liking?

    haha, the old, if you criticize something, maybe you can do it better! too funny! :roll:
    and the age old, if you dont like it, you should move! man, you're on a roll! :lol:

    Personally, I'm glad to hear from someone who LIVES in Texas. He might know a bit more about Perry then your average bandwagon jumper.
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  • usamamasan1usamamasan1 Posts: 4,695
    Parachute wrote:

    PS: It's illegal, I guess, b/c the people of state you live in want it that way. But if it was up to the FED, you would NEVER be able to light up. Keep that in mind as you rail against state's rights and glorify all things centralized.

    wOOT Woot
  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    Parachute wrote:
    polaris_x wrote:
    Parachute wrote:
    Same thing. I really can't believe you even tried that argument... You usually debate better than that.

    Splittin hairs like Bill Clinton. "Depends what the definition of 'is', is."

    I'm talkin about EXECUTIVE experience/qualification. There is no comparison.

    you had it right in your last post though:
    "ignorance and inability for people to think critically is destroying the left and it is pretty much dead ..."

    On that, you've never been more right. Haha. get it? "been more right?"
    haha,...
    It's gonna be a great year.
    woot.

    soo ... if someone like say henry waxman ran ... he would be more qualified than perry?

    :lol: I gotta say, that was a good one... I can only say that while traditionally, Governors have had a better record getting elected President than Senators and Congressmen, Waxman- jesus- even Waxman, is technically more experienced and qualified than Obama.

    At least he's governed a committee. well played.

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  • ParachuteParachute Posts: 409
    ComeToTX wrote:
    Parachute wrote:
    ComeToTX wrote:
    I'm a liberal? Thanks for letting me know. My problem with Perry isn't that he's a conservative it's that he's not very bright. Most of us in his state have learned that, which is why he can't get 40% of the vote.

    Well, if being :bright" is all it takes, then maybe you should run.


    The red states (that PJ won't play) will help Perry get over the hump.

    Funny that your state is fairing better than any other in this Obama Depression, yet all you do is complain...

    Why not move to NY, or Cali? Maybe their Governors would be more to your liking?

    I'm not wealthy and can't be bought by corporations or lobbyists so I can't run.

    My life is very good. I make good money at a pretty easy job. Unlike you I don't only give a shit about myself. I care about other people in this country that don't have jobs or options. You need to realize that job growth in TX has almost nothing to do with Rick Perry. He literally has less power than the Lt. Gov.

    Why don't I move? Pretty childish argument.


    Fine. Don't move. Just sit there and bitch. Oh, and "care about people." Wonder how you do that? Do you take what's left in your paycheck and give it away? What about all the money you spend on pot? Couldn't you do with less? Do you watch football, or buy clothes for yourself? Or do you just walk around naked so some illigel alien single-mom can buy her 2 yr old Air Jordans? What a triumph you are.

    No, I'm calling bullshit. I bet you care about yourself a great deal. You just like to sound noble on here and probably day dream about Ed or Jeff reading your posts and saying, "Ya, man. That ComeToTX dude is alright."

    If "giving a shit about myself" is wrong, then I don't want to be right.

    haha :lol:

    I guess we disagree...
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