All of a sudden this 11 year Governor of the largerst state in the Union, isn't qualified to be Prez b/c there is too much disparity b/w the classes in his state, or not all the jobs created in his state offer 401K and free everything- or TX tuna isn't as dolphin-safe as you'd prefer...
THIS- from people that voted for Barack H. Obama- governor of the Harvard Law Review, who had less executive experience of any man to ever aspire to the Presidency. And has failed accordingly.
Do your own homework fellas- and I'll see you at the Inauguration in January.
woot.
Its not just that. I think he will run (obviously) under his one big positive accomplishment: Jobs. With unemplyment the way it is right now, I really think people will listen to him and want to know how he gained his success in that department. But according to that list that Arthurdent posted, there are a lot of concerns that must be addressed. Don't you want to know more about why Texas' housing market and environmental issues are ranked so poorly?? Why he doesnt care much about safe sex education?
and PS-I thought Alaska was the largest State in the Union.
yep, most of the created jobs are low paying and don't offer insurance. he's a joke.
Austin. The Berkley of Texas.
A joke? Here's a joke:
-"Who's the President of the United States?"
-"Barack Obama".
Now that's a fucking joke.
LIve with this thought for the next 14 months: Perry will be YOUR President, too.
All the Christianity. All that big-military shit. All that send the illegals home and make English the official language shit. All that tax breaks for everyone shit. All that give me back your food stamps shit. All that anti-gay marriage shit.
All that Conservative shit.
It's gonna be epic. Like the failure of the Kenyan Marxist.
I am starting to wonder if you don't really believe any of this shit and are trying to just have fun. either that or i am just very tired and have no idea what you just wrote cause that was just the most bizarre post i have ever read.
All of a sudden this 11 year Governor of the largerst state in the Union, isn't qualified to be Prez b/c there is too much disparity b/w the classes in his state, or not all the jobs created in his state offer 401K and free everything- or TX tuna isn't as dolphin-safe as you'd prefer...
THIS- from people that voted for Barack H. Obama- governor of the Harvard Law Review, who had less executive experience of any man to ever aspire to the Presidency. And has failed accordingly.
Do your own homework fellas- and I'll see you at the Inauguration in January.
woot.
Its not just that. I think he will run (obviously) under his one big positive accomplishment: Jobs. With unemplyment the way it is right now, I really think people will listen to him and want to know how he gained his success in that department. But according to that list that Arthurdent posted, there are a lot of concerns that must be addressed. Don't you want to know more about why Texas' housing market and environmental issues are ranked so poorly?? Why he doesnt care much about safe sex education?
and PS-I thought Alaska was the largest State in the Union.
And to your point, I understand most of the jobs are related to the oil industry- which is an advantage most states don't share... It will be interesting to see how the candidates spin it.
No candidate is perfect, and I'm sure that Perry and I will disagree on some issues, but turning this economy around is my number one priority, and Obama's philosophies are a failure- he could be President for 100 years and still wouldn't work. They just stifle growth. Perry's desire to shrink government and gov't spending, cut taxes and bolster our strong national defense is what I'll be voting for.
It's just a philisophical difference, not personal.
And you may be right about Alaska- I will look it up- if so, well played.
yep, most of the created jobs are low paying and don't offer insurance. he's a joke.
Austin. The Berkley of Texas.
A joke? Here's a joke:
-"Who's the President of the United States?"
-"Barack Obama".
Now that's a fucking joke.
LIve with this thought for the next 14 months: Perry will be YOUR President, too.
All the Christianity. All that big-military shit. All that send the illegals home and make English the official language shit. All that tax breaks for everyone shit. All that give me back your food stamps shit. All that anti-gay marriage shit.
All that Conservative shit.
It's gonna be epic. Like the failure of the Kenyan Marxist.
I am starting to wonder if you don't really believe any of this shit and are trying to just have fun. either that or i am just very tired and have no idea what you just wrote cause that was just the most bizarre post i have ever read.
I do believe it. I AM having fun with it. I realize that here, I am in the minority, but in reality, there are millions of people just like me.... Without me and a few others here, there would be nothing to debate- just a big government circle jerk.
bolster our strong national defense is what I'll be voting for.
He wants to bolster our national defense? How?
Ok, I am sincerely curious about his job creating success.. I agree with Cincy, they ARE jobs (low paying or not), so thats good.
But even though its a big state, I still find the environmental issues a concern, as well as whats going on with housing, and the high ranks in many stats with the poor and women.. it doesnt look good.
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I am starting to wonder if you don't really believe any of this shit and are trying to just have fun. either that or i am just very tired and have no idea what you just wrote cause that was just the most bizarre post i have ever read.[/quote]
I do believe it. I AM having fun with it. I realize that here, I am in the minority, but in reality, there are millions of people just like me.... Without me and a few others here, there would be nothing to debate- just a big government circle jerk.
Let's keep it lively, shall we?[/quote]
i don't question that there are millions of people who believe that same way as you. i want lie and say that this doesn't scare me but i say the same things about very left wing politics also.
yes lively is good, but social grace is also good. afteralll we are not the congress
All of a sudden this 11 year Governor of the largerst state in the Union, isn't qualified to be Prez b/c there is too much disparity b/w the classes in his state, or not all the jobs created in his state offer 401K and free everything- or TX tuna isn't as dolphin-safe as you'd prefer...
THIS- from people that voted for Barack H. Obama- governor of the Harvard Law Review, who had less executive experience of any man to ever aspire to the Presidency. And has failed accordingly.
Do your own homework fellas- and I'll see you at the Inauguration in January.
woot.
OK then...let's turn that around...
Someone with little to no record who really wasn't ready to be president IS now president and I'm taking it that you're very unhappy with the job that he's done.
So.. your solution to the problem is to vote for someone who seems even LESS qualified and has a proven record of failure, stupidity and fudging numbers to make himself look good?
I asked in another thread and nobody could answer: How is Texas able to create so many jobs? Is it a reflection of Perrys politics?
I think the answer is: Not really.
Texas was responsible for nearly half the jobs created nationwide during the "recovery." I think Perry gets some credit for fostering a pro-business environment, or at the very least, an environment that isn't hostile toward doing business.
However, a couple things to keep in mind: 1) In Texas, the governor doesn't have all that much power. It isn't analogous to being President. Perry wasn't exactly a figurehead, per se, but he was close to that.
2) A lot of the jobs "created" were due to a boom in population growth, with many of those new workers coming from Mexico. A lot of the jobs "created" were also military jobs -- which would have been created regardless of who the governor was.
The poverty rate in Texas is going up (again, however, you can probably attribute this to many low-income refugees from Mexico). Meanwhile, Perry has also been hell on education here -- he likes to tout his balanced budget, which is nice, but he mostly balanced it by gutting education money (and accepting federal stimulus money from Mean Ol' Uncle Sam).
If the economy is the No. 1 issue, and you're asking me to choose Perry over Obama, I'd take Perry and hold my nose. Even for Republicans, he's a very mixed bag.
everybody wants the most they can possibly get
for the least they could possibly do
yep, most of the created jobs are low paying and don't offer insurance. he's a joke.
Austin. The Berkley of Texas.
A joke? Here's a joke:
-"Who's the President of the United States?"
-"Barack Obama".
Now that's a fucking joke.
LIve with this thought for the next 14 months: Perry will be YOUR President, too.
All the Christianity. All that big-military shit. All that send the illegals home and make English the official language shit. All that tax breaks for everyone shit. All that give me back your food stamps shit. All that anti-gay marriage shit.
All that Conservative shit.
It's gonna be epic. Like the failure of the Kenyan Marxist.
I am starting to wonder if you don't really believe any of this shit and are trying to just have fun. either that or i am just very tired and have no idea what you just wrote cause that was just the most bizarre post i have ever read.
Texas standings against all 50 states on a variety of issues (1st means highest ranking, 50th means lowest ranking).
• State Aid Per Pupil in Average Daily Attendance – 47th
• Scholastic Assessment Test (SAT) Scores – 45th
• % of Population 25 and Older with High School Diploma – 50th
• High School Graduation Rate – 43rd
• Per Capita State Spending on State Arts Agencies – 43rd
• Birth Rate – 2nd
• Percent of Uninsured Children – 1st
• Percent of Children Living in Poverty – 4th
• Percent of Population Uninsured – 1st
• Percent of Non-Elderly Uninsured – 1st
• Percent of Low Income Population Covered by Medicaid – 49th
• Percent of Population with Employer-Based Health Insurance – 48th
• Total Health Expenditures as % of the Gross State Product – 43rd
• Per Capita State Spending on Mental Health – 50th
• Per Capita State Spending on Medicaid – 49th
• Health Care Expenditures per Capita – 44th
• Physicians per Capita – 42nd
• Registered Nurses per Capita – 44th
• Average Monthly Women, Infant, and Children (WIC) Benefits per Person – 47th
• Percent of Population Who Visit the Dentist – 46th
• Overall Birth Rate – 2nd
• Teenage Birth Rate – 7th
• Births to Unmarried Mothers – 17th
• Percent of Women with Pre-Term Birth – 9th
• Percent of Non-Elderly Women with Health Insurance – 50th
• Rate of Women Aged 40+ Who Receive Mammograms – 40th
• Cervical Cancer Rate – 11th
• Percent of Women with High Blood Pressure – 16th
• Percent of Pregnant Women Receiving Prenatal Care in First Trimester – 50th
• Women’s Voter Registration – 45th
• Women’s Voter Turnout – 49th
• Percent of Women Living in Poverty – 6th
• Mortgage Debt as Percent of Home Value – 47th
• Foreclosure Rates – 10th
• Median Net Worth of Households – 47th
• Average Credit Score – 49th
• Retirement Plan Participation – 47th
• Amount of Carbon Dioxide Emissions – 1st
• Amount of Volatile Organic Compounds Released into Air – 1st
• Amount of Toxic Chemicals Released into Water – 1st
• Amount of Recognized Cancer-Causing Carcinogens Released into Air – 1st
• Amount of Hazardous Waste Generated – 1st
• Amount of Toxic Chemicals Released into Air – 5th
• Amount of Recognized Cancer-Causing Carcinogens Released into Water – 7th
• Number of Hazardous Waste Sites on National Priority List – 7th
• Consumption of Energy per Capita – 5th
• Workers’ Compensation Coverage – 50th
• Income Inequality Between the Rich and the Poor – 9th
• Income Inequality Between the Rich and the Middle Class – 5th
• Homeowner’s Insurance Affordability – 46th
• Number of Executions – 1st
All of a sudden this 11 year Governor of the largerst state in the Union, isn't qualified to be Prez b/c there is too much disparity b/w the classes in his state, or not all the jobs created in his state offer 401K and free everything- or TX tuna isn't as dolphin-safe as you'd prefer...
Actually, if you read the op you'll see that there's plenty more to it than just this.
But then attempting to simplify the issue by ignoring 99% of the facts presented seems to be your only hope in this thread.
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All the Christianity. All that big-military shit. All that send the illegals home and make English the official language shit. All that tax breaks for everyone shit. All that give me back your food stamps shit. All that anti-gay marriage shit.
All that Conservative shit.
It's gonna be epic. Like the failure of the Kenyan Marxist.
All the Christianity. All that big-military shit. All that send the illegals home and make English the official language shit. All that tax breaks for everyone shit. All that give me back your food stamps shit. All that anti-gay marriage shit.
All that Conservative shit.
It's gonna be epic. Like the failure of the Kenyan Marxist.
do you know that was exactly the image that came to mind?
Wouldn't a big state with more industry have more air emissions?
I'm not sure you can just look at a list and know all.
As for the wealth gap, I'm pretty sure it's due to some old oil money, but again, can't just look at a list and pretend to know.
I do find it funny, the whole jobs thing. Texas has crated more jobs...but, but, but they are low paying jobs!!!!! Ummm...better than NO JOB, no?
"What Texas shows is that a state offering cheap labor and, less important, weak regulation can attract jobs from other states. I believe that the appropriate response to this insight is “Well, duh.” The point is that arguing from this experience that depressing wages and dismantling regulation in America as a whole would create more jobs — which is, whatever Mr. Perry may say, what Perrynomics amounts to in practice — involves a fallacy of composition: every state can’t lure jobs away from every other state. "
The more I look into Perry, the more concerned I grow. Here's a video of a pastor that Perry invited about Hitler being a hunter and essentially needing to kill the jews to get them back to the holy land (main part of the video starts around 1:20):
Now for those of you who may want to dismiss Perry inviting this seemingly fascist zealot to his "Response" event as it not directly involving him, just think about how poor Perry is at vetting people if he invited this guy. Now consider him vetting cabinet members, supreme court members, etc.
Then here's a video of Perry sounding very much like a televangelist.
And then there's us having the economic crisis in order to make us turn back to the Bible: http://youtu.be/jNVwGNrvKnU
There is simply no way in hell I would vote for this person and it only compounds the issues already raised in this thread. Catholics, Jews, Atheists, Gays, etc., should be up in arms about this guy. Enough is enough.
I actually would not mind a conservative nut job in the White House. you know what? under barack obama, we've had an absolutely shitty time. the wars have continued, the economy is still in shambles, corporate bail outs still going on, health care bill was shit, immigration has not been dealt with, civil liberties nearly non existent. what the fuck has obama done?
oh, let us not forget obama's biggest accomplishment: the murder of the liberal opposition movement which led to a rise in another opposition movement: the tea party. how fucking embarrassing is it that the opposition movement in the U.S. is the tea party? the leftwing liberal movement is dead thanks to BO's presidency. and has he actually done anything decent? no, he hasn't. atleast if a crazy rightwing president took the presidency, the liberal movement would rise again, this time probably stronger than it ever has. people are not going to change things by electing "moderate" pieces of shit like Barack Obama. It's going to take a real people's movement to do anything and so long as this president is still in power, we will keep hearing BS words like "compromise" and "moderate" and all this crap which really means let's see how close we can get to the republicans before they finally say OK. the crazier the man in the White House is, like, say, rick Perry or Sarah palin, the stronger the opposition movements will be and the more radical the change they demand will be. atleast I hope so. anyway that's just my opinion. I'm looking forward to not voting next election. I'd honestly rather stay home and smoke a J
I actually would not mind a conservative nut job in the White House. you know what? under barack obama, we've had an absolutely shitty time. the wars have continued, the economy is still in shambles, corporate bail outs still going on, health care bill was shit, immigration has not been dealt with, civil liberties nearly non existent. what the fuck has obama done?
oh, let us not forget obama's biggest accomplishment: the murder of the liberal opposition movement which led to a rise in another opposition movement: the tea party. how fucking embarrassing is it that the opposition movement in the U.S. is the tea party? the leftwing liberal movement is dead thanks to BO's presidency. and has he actually done anything decent? no, he hasn't. atleast if a crazy rightwing president took the presidency, the liberal movement would rise again, this time probably stronger than it ever has. people are not going to change things by electing "moderate" pieces of shit like Barack Obama. It's going to take a real people's movement to do anything and so long as this president is still in power, we will keep hearing BS words like "compromise" and "moderate" and all this crap which really means let's see how close we can get to the republicans before they finally say OK. the crazier the man in the White House is, like, say, rick Perry or Sarah palin, the stronger the opposition movements will be and the more radical the change they demand will be. atleast I hope so. anyway that's just my opinion. I'm looking forward to not voting next election. I'd honestly rather stay home and smoke a J
I actually would not mind a conservative nut job in the White House. you know what? under barack obama, we've had an absolutely shitty time. the wars have continued, the economy is still in shambles, corporate bail outs still going on, health care bill was shit, immigration has not been dealt with, civil liberties nearly non existent. what the fuck has obama done?
oh, let us not forget obama's biggest accomplishment: the murder of the liberal opposition movement which led to a rise in another opposition movement: the tea party. how fucking embarrassing is it that the opposition movement in the U.S. is the tea party? the leftwing liberal movement is dead thanks to BO's presidency. and has he actually done anything decent? no, he hasn't. atleast if a crazy rightwing president took the presidency, the liberal movement would rise again, this time probably stronger than it ever has. people are not going to change things by electing "moderate" pieces of shit like Barack Obama. It's going to take a real people's movement to do anything and so long as this president is still in power, we will keep hearing BS words like "compromise" and "moderate" and all this crap which really means let's see how close we can get to the republicans before they finally say OK. the crazier the man in the White House is, like, say, rick Perry or Sarah palin, the stronger the opposition movements will be and the more radical the change they demand will be. atleast I hope so. anyway that's just my opinion. I'm looking forward to not voting next election. I'd honestly rather stay home and smoke a J
you must be high to reach that conclusion
nope. and even if I were, it still makes sense
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...slipping back into the room momentarily, let me say this:
This a very strange thread,
about a very strange man,
in a very strange country,
in a very strange time.
Somebody, please give me a reality check.
Ok, back to my corner...
"Pretty cookies, heart squares all around, yeah!" -Eddie Vedder, "Smile"
bolster our strong national defense is what I'll be voting for.
He wants to bolster our national defense? How?
Ok, I am sincerely curious about his job creating success.. I agree with Cincy, they ARE jobs (low paying or not), so thats good.
But even though its a big state, I still find the environmental issues a concern, as well as whats going on with housing, and the high ranks in many stats with the poor and women.. it doesnt look good.
But it looks better in TX than almost all the other states. Not perfect, but better. TX has added jobs, and I don't know of another state that can say that. But like you, I am interested to learn more on that...
Defense- Obama has alienated our allies, and emboldened our enemies. He took a grand apology tour when he first became President- and apologized for everything we've ever done. Because he hates this country. So does Moochelle. He wants to "fundamentally transform" it.
Not me. And a lot of people, millions, happen to think that this is the best country on the planet- and I want to hear my President say that.
After JFK was killed, then Vietnam, then MLK and Bobby, Nixon's resignation- the country was broken. Carter, who used to be the worst President in modrn history, made everything worse. Much worse.
The world sensed his weakness. The world senses that same weakness in Obama.
Then along came Reagan.
Reagan made Americans feel proud about America again. He was tough, he stood by our Allies, and stood up to our enemies. We need that now. Perry, IMO, is the closest thing.
The social experiment that is Obama's Presidency is over.
Perry in his formal announcement on Saturday:
-"The United States of America really is the last great hope of mankind."
-"Spreading the wealth punishes success while setting America on course for greater dependency on government."
-"It's pretty simple. We're going to stand with those who stand with us. And we will vigorously defend our interest. And those who threaten our interest, harm of citizens, we will simply not be scolding you. We will defeat you."
All of a sudden this 11 year Governor of the largerst state in the Union, isn't qualified to be Prez b/c there is too much disparity b/w the classes in his state, or not all the jobs created in his state offer 401K and free everything- or TX tuna isn't as dolphin-safe as you'd prefer...
THIS- from people that voted for Barack H. Obama- governor of the Harvard Law Review, who had less executive experience of any man to ever aspire to the Presidency. And has failed accordingly.
Do your own homework fellas- and I'll see you at the Inauguration in January.
woot.
OK then...let's turn that around...
Someone with little to no record who really wasn't ready to be president IS now president and I'm taking it that you're very unhappy with the job that he's done.
So.. your solution to the problem is to vote for someone who seems even LESS qualified and has a proven record of failure, stupidity and fudging numbers to make himself look good?
Hm.. Ok, then. Good luck with that.
There is no way to debate someone who deals in lies. "Don;t deal in lies."- Kipling
Perry has been the Gov of TEXAS for 11 years.
How that is LESS experienced than a one term Senator- I do not know.
Your arguments are ones of emotion, and not intellect.
I gotta stop reading your posts now, b/c it's like debating a Tickle-me-Elmo.
All the best, your Highness...
I actually would not mind a conservative nut job in the White House. you know what? under barack obama, we've had an absolutely shitty time. the wars have continued, the economy is still in shambles, corporate bail outs still going on, health care bill was shit, immigration has not been dealt with, civil liberties nearly non existent. what the fuck has obama done?
oh, let us not forget obama's biggest accomplishment: the murder of the liberal opposition movement which led to a rise in another opposition movement: the tea party. how fucking embarrassing is it that the opposition movement in the U.S. is the tea party? the leftwing liberal movement is dead thanks to BO's presidency. and has he actually done anything decent? no, he hasn't. atleast if a crazy rightwing president took the presidency, the liberal movement would rise again, this time probably stronger than it ever has. people are not going to change things by electing "moderate" pieces of shit like Barack Obama. It's going to take a real people's movement to do anything and so long as this president is still in power, we will keep hearing BS words like "compromise" and "moderate" and all this crap which really means let's see how close we can get to the republicans before they finally say OK. the crazier the man in the White House is, like, say, rick Perry or Sarah palin, the stronger the opposition movements will be and the more radical the change they demand will be. atleast I hope so. anyway that's just my opinion. I'm looking forward to not voting next election. I'd honestly rather stay home and smoke a J
the left is dead in america ... has been for a very long time ... as long as education continues to be an afterthought and corportations and religious ideologues dictate policy - the right is here to stay ...
the fact there are people who would even think this guy should be president is a very sad reflection of the populace now ... the partisanship, ignorance and inability for people to think critically is destroying the left and it is pretty much dead ...
There is no way to debate someone who deals in lies. "Don;t deal in lies."- Kipling
Perry has been the Gov of TEXAS for 11 years.
How that is LESS experienced than a one term Senator- I do not know.
Your arguments are ones of emotion, and not intellect.
I gotta stop reading your posts now, b/c it's like debating a Tickle-me-Elmo.
All the best, your Highness...
he said less QUALIFIED ... experience or time as governor does not equate to being qualified ... perhaps your inability to distinguish the two is a reflection of your emotional argument and intellect!?
And to your point, I understand most of the jobs are related to the oil industry- which is an advantage most states don't share... It will be interesting to see how the candidates spin it.
No candidate is perfect, and I'm sure that Perry and I will disagree on some issues, but turning this economy around is my number one priority, and Obama's philosophies are a failure- he could be President for 100 years and still wouldn't work. They just stifle growth. Perry's desire to shrink government and gov't spending, cut taxes and bolster our strong national defense is what I'll be voting for.
It's just a philisophical difference, not personal.
And you may be right about Alaska- I will look it up- if so, well played.
why would you bolster our defense? a) we have no current sworn enemy state like Russians in the 80s so there is no reason to bolster defense especially if you believe in ending the current wars we are in, and b) bolstering defense and cutting government spending is impossible to do together. you can't cut government spending while bolstering the largest portion of govevnment spending we already do.
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Its not just that. I think he will run (obviously) under his one big positive accomplishment: Jobs. With unemplyment the way it is right now, I really think people will listen to him and want to know how he gained his success in that department. But according to that list that Arthurdent posted, there are a lot of concerns that must be addressed. Don't you want to know more about why Texas' housing market and environmental issues are ranked so poorly?? Why he doesnt care much about safe sex education?
and PS-I thought Alaska was the largest State in the Union.
I'm not sure you can just look at a list and know all.
As for the wealth gap, I'm pretty sure it's due to some old oil money, but again, can't just look at a list and pretend to know.
I do find it funny, the whole jobs thing. Texas has crated more jobs...but, but, but they are low paying jobs!!!!! Ummm...better than NO JOB, no?
I am starting to wonder if you don't really believe any of this shit and are trying to just have fun. either that or i am just very tired and have no idea what you just wrote cause that was just the most bizarre post i have ever read.
And to your point, I understand most of the jobs are related to the oil industry- which is an advantage most states don't share... It will be interesting to see how the candidates spin it.
No candidate is perfect, and I'm sure that Perry and I will disagree on some issues, but turning this economy around is my number one priority, and Obama's philosophies are a failure- he could be President for 100 years and still wouldn't work. They just stifle growth. Perry's desire to shrink government and gov't spending, cut taxes and bolster our strong national defense is what I'll be voting for.
It's just a philisophical difference, not personal.
And you may be right about Alaska- I will look it up- if so, well played.
Something a little less left-wing-radical-crazy-as-shit would be a better source.
I do believe it. I AM having fun with it. I realize that here, I am in the minority, but in reality, there are millions of people just like me.... Without me and a few others here, there would be nothing to debate- just a big government circle jerk.
Let's keep it lively, shall we?
He wants to bolster our national defense? How?
Ok, I am sincerely curious about his job creating success.. I agree with Cincy, they ARE jobs (low paying or not), so thats good.
But even though its a big state, I still find the environmental issues a concern, as well as whats going on with housing, and the high ranks in many stats with the poor and women.. it doesnt look good.
I am starting to wonder if you don't really believe any of this shit and are trying to just have fun. either that or i am just very tired and have no idea what you just wrote cause that was just the most bizarre post i have ever read.[/quote]
I do believe it. I AM having fun with it. I realize that here, I am in the minority, but in reality, there are millions of people just like me.... Without me and a few others here, there would be nothing to debate- just a big government circle jerk.
Let's keep it lively, shall we?[/quote]
i don't question that there are millions of people who believe that same way as you. i want lie and say that this doesn't scare me but i say the same things about very left wing politics also.
yes lively is good, but social grace is also good. afteralll we are not the congress
OK then...let's turn that around...
Someone with little to no record who really wasn't ready to be president IS now president and I'm taking it that you're very unhappy with the job that he's done.
So.. your solution to the problem is to vote for someone who seems even LESS qualified and has a proven record of failure, stupidity and fudging numbers to make himself look good?
Hm.. Ok, then. Good luck with that.
I think the answer is: Not really.
Texas was responsible for nearly half the jobs created nationwide during the "recovery." I think Perry gets some credit for fostering a pro-business environment, or at the very least, an environment that isn't hostile toward doing business.
However, a couple things to keep in mind: 1) In Texas, the governor doesn't have all that much power. It isn't analogous to being President. Perry wasn't exactly a figurehead, per se, but he was close to that.
2) A lot of the jobs "created" were due to a boom in population growth, with many of those new workers coming from Mexico. A lot of the jobs "created" were also military jobs -- which would have been created regardless of who the governor was.
The poverty rate in Texas is going up (again, however, you can probably attribute this to many low-income refugees from Mexico). Meanwhile, Perry has also been hell on education here -- he likes to tout his balanced budget, which is nice, but he mostly balanced it by gutting education money (and accepting federal stimulus money from Mean Ol' Uncle Sam).
If the economy is the No. 1 issue, and you're asking me to choose Perry over Obama, I'd take Perry and hold my nose. Even for Republicans, he's a very mixed bag.
for the least they could possibly do
Wash me in the blood of Rock & Roll
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe%27s_law
Wash me in the blood of Rock & Roll
Yep, this is what America needs!
Actually, if you read the op you'll see that there's plenty more to it than just this.
But then attempting to simplify the issue by ignoring 99% of the facts presented seems to be your only hope in this thread.
Actually, it's 'Berkeley', not 'Berkley'. :roll:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University ... ,_Berkeley
'Berkeley is the most consistently well ranked university in the world overall as shown by a meta-analysis of subject/departmental data over the last sixteen years from the United States National Research Council, the US News & World Report, and Times Higher Education. Berkeley has the highest number of distinguished graduate programs ranked in the top 10 in their fields by the United States National Research Council. Among other honors, University faculty, alumni, and researchers have won 66 Nobel Prizes, 9 Wolf Prizes, 7 Fields Medals, 15 Turing Awards, 45[5] MacArthur Fellowships, 20 Academy Awards, and 11 Pulitzer Prizes. To date, UC Berkeley and its researchers are associated with 6 chemical elements of the periodic table (Californium, Seaborgium, Berkelium, Einsteinium, Fermium, Lawrencium) and Berkeley Lab has discovered 16 chemical elements in total - more than any other university in the world...'
You mean 'philosophical', not 'philisophical'. :roll:
do you know that was exactly the image that came to mind?
"What Texas shows is that a state offering cheap labor and, less important, weak regulation can attract jobs from other states. I believe that the appropriate response to this insight is “Well, duh.” The point is that arguing from this experience that depressing wages and dismantling regulation in America as a whole would create more jobs — which is, whatever Mr. Perry may say, what Perrynomics amounts to in practice — involves a fallacy of composition: every state can’t lure jobs away from every other state. "
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/15/opini ... ml?_r=1&hp
http://youtu.be/LjqCYxogjjo
Now for those of you who may want to dismiss Perry inviting this seemingly fascist zealot to his "Response" event as it not directly involving him, just think about how poor Perry is at vetting people if he invited this guy. Now consider him vetting cabinet members, supreme court members, etc.
Then here's a video of Perry sounding very much like a televangelist.
http://youtu.be/4c5lDszsw68
And then there's us having the economic crisis in order to make us turn back to the Bible:
http://youtu.be/jNVwGNrvKnU
There is simply no way in hell I would vote for this person and it only compounds the issues already raised in this thread. Catholics, Jews, Atheists, Gays, etc., should be up in arms about this guy. Enough is enough.
Because that's worked out so well for us in the past.
He's not just a nut job. He's dangerous.
oh, let us not forget obama's biggest accomplishment: the murder of the liberal opposition movement which led to a rise in another opposition movement: the tea party. how fucking embarrassing is it that the opposition movement in the U.S. is the tea party? the leftwing liberal movement is dead thanks to BO's presidency. and has he actually done anything decent? no, he hasn't. atleast if a crazy rightwing president took the presidency, the liberal movement would rise again, this time probably stronger than it ever has. people are not going to change things by electing "moderate" pieces of shit like Barack Obama. It's going to take a real people's movement to do anything and so long as this president is still in power, we will keep hearing BS words like "compromise" and "moderate" and all this crap which really means let's see how close we can get to the republicans before they finally say OK. the crazier the man in the White House is, like, say, rick Perry or Sarah palin, the stronger the opposition movements will be and the more radical the change they demand will be. atleast I hope so. anyway that's just my opinion. I'm looking forward to not voting next election. I'd honestly rather stay home and smoke a J
you must be high to reach that conclusion
nope. and even if I were, it still makes sense
This a very strange thread,
about a very strange man,
in a very strange country,
in a very strange time.
Somebody, please give me a reality check.
Ok, back to my corner...
-Eddie Vedder, "Smile"
But it looks better in TX than almost all the other states. Not perfect, but better. TX has added jobs, and I don't know of another state that can say that. But like you, I am interested to learn more on that...
Defense- Obama has alienated our allies, and emboldened our enemies. He took a grand apology tour when he first became President- and apologized for everything we've ever done. Because he hates this country. So does Moochelle. He wants to "fundamentally transform" it.
Not me. And a lot of people, millions, happen to think that this is the best country on the planet- and I want to hear my President say that.
After JFK was killed, then Vietnam, then MLK and Bobby, Nixon's resignation- the country was broken. Carter, who used to be the worst President in modrn history, made everything worse. Much worse.
The world sensed his weakness. The world senses that same weakness in Obama.
Then along came Reagan.
Reagan made Americans feel proud about America again. He was tough, he stood by our Allies, and stood up to our enemies. We need that now. Perry, IMO, is the closest thing.
The social experiment that is Obama's Presidency is over.
Perry in his formal announcement on Saturday:
-"The United States of America really is the last great hope of mankind."
-"Spreading the wealth punishes success while setting America on course for greater dependency on government."
-"It's pretty simple. We're going to stand with those who stand with us. And we will vigorously defend our interest. And those who threaten our interest, harm of citizens, we will simply not be scolding you. We will defeat you."
There is no way to debate someone who deals in lies. "Don;t deal in lies."- Kipling
Perry has been the Gov of TEXAS for 11 years.
How that is LESS experienced than a one term Senator- I do not know.
Your arguments are ones of emotion, and not intellect.
I gotta stop reading your posts now, b/c it's like debating a Tickle-me-Elmo.
All the best, your Highness...
the left is dead in america ... has been for a very long time ... as long as education continues to be an afterthought and corportations and religious ideologues dictate policy - the right is here to stay ...
the fact there are people who would even think this guy should be president is a very sad reflection of the populace now ... the partisanship, ignorance and inability for people to think critically is destroying the left and it is pretty much dead ...
he said less QUALIFIED ... experience or time as governor does not equate to being qualified ... perhaps your inability to distinguish the two is a reflection of your emotional argument and intellect!?
why would you bolster our defense? a) we have no current sworn enemy state like Russians in the 80s so there is no reason to bolster defense especially if you believe in ending the current wars we are in, and b) bolstering defense and cutting government spending is impossible to do together. you can't cut government spending while bolstering the largest portion of govevnment spending we already do.
next.....