The REAL Rick Perry

polaris_x

if you're a fan of perry and bush ... i'm gonna say environment and prosperity gap issues are not gonna be a huge concern ...

arthurdent

JonnyPistachio wrote:

Parachute, can you address some of these problems

good luck with that

ComeToTX

As I said in another thread he got a D in INTRO to Economics! You want to trust him to clean up this economic mess if he can barely pass INTRO to Econ?

I took that class my freshman year and got a B+ and was stoned and drunk most of the time.

Also, you people haven't been around enough Aggies if you're willing to vote for one that was in the corp.

ComeToTX

Also, this statement is pretty misleading:

"He also enacted a mandatory-sonogram-for-abortions law in Texas.... even for victims of rape and incest. This procedure must be accomplished via a procedure called a "Transvaginal Probe", in which a large "device" is wrapped in a condom and inserted into the vagina... basically a second rape, and it costs the patient between $100 - $400 to boot."

My wife is preggo with our second kid and has had quite a few of these. Most pregnant women do because it's the only way to see the fetus that early. Don't ever compare it to rape!

JonnyPistachio

http://www.cnn.com/2011/OPINION/08/15/f ... ?hpt=hp_c1

I asked in another thread and nobody could answer: How is Texas able to create so many jobs? Is it a reflection of Perrys politics?

"Through two years of weak economic recovery, Texas has led the nation in job creation. Of all the jobs created in the United States since 2009, 38% have been created in Texas.

But if Texas has created many jobs, it has failed to create good jobs. Many of the jobs created since 2009 pay only minimum wage, and Texas, along with Mississippi, has the highest percentage of minimum wage workers in the U.S.

Truth be told, it's unclear how much (if any) blame or credit Perry personally deserves for either Texas' good job creation or Texas' bad wages. Perry did not endow Texas with the oil that supports the Texas economy. Nor did he locate Texas next door to Mexico and the flow of legal and illegal immigration that drives down Texas wages."

ComeToTX

yep, most of the created jobs are low paying and don't offer insurance. he's a joke.

Parachute

All of a sudden this 11 year Governor of the largerst state in the Union, isn't qualified to be Prez b/c there is too much disparity b/w the classes in his state, or not all the jobs created in his state offer 401K and free everything- or TX tuna isn't as dolphin-safe as you'd prefer...

THIS- from people that voted for Barack H. Obama- governor of the Harvard Law Review, who had less executive experience of any man to ever aspire to the Presidency. And has failed accordingly.

Do your own homework fellas- and I'll see you at the Inauguration in January.

woot.

arthurdent

Parachute wrote:

All of a sudden this 11 year Governor of the largerst state in the Union, isn't qualified to be Prez b/c there is too much disparity b/w the classes in his state, or not all the jobs created in his state offer 401K and free everything- or TX tuna isn't as dolphin-safe as you'd prefer...

THIS- from people that voted for Barack H. Obama- governor of the Harvard Law Review, who had less executive experience of any man to ever aspire to the Presidency. And has failed accordingly.

Do your own homework fellas- and I'll see you at the Inauguration in January.

woot.

nice deflection.

Parachute

ComeToTX wrote:

yep, most of the created jobs are low paying and don't offer insurance. he's a joke.

Austin. The Berkley of Texas.

A joke? Here's a joke:

-"Who's the President of the United States?"

-"Barack Obama".

Now that's a fucking joke.

LIve with this thought for the next 14 months: Perry will be YOUR President, too.

All the Christianity. All that big-military shit. All that send the illegals home and make English the official language shit. All that tax breaks for everyone shit. All that give me back your food stamps shit. All that anti-gay marriage shit.


All that Conservative shit.

It's gonna be epic. Like the failure of the Kenyan Marxist.

Parachute

arthurdent wrote:

Parachute wrote:

All of a sudden this 11 year Governor of the largerst state in the Union, isn't qualified to be Prez b/c there is too much disparity b/w the classes in his state, or not all the jobs created in his state offer 401K and free everything- or TX tuna isn't as dolphin-safe as you'd prefer...

THIS- from people that voted for Barack H. Obama- governor of the Harvard Law Review, who had less executive experience of any man to ever aspire to the Presidency. And has failed accordingly.

Do your own homework fellas- and I'll see you at the Inauguration in January.

woot.

nice deflection.

Explain what executive experience led you to believe Obama was qualified.

Without "deflecting".... hahahaha.

JonnyPistachio

Parachute wrote:

All of a sudden this 11 year Governor of the largerst state in the Union, isn't qualified to be Prez b/c there is too much disparity b/w the classes in his state, or not all the jobs created in his state offer 401K and free everything- or TX tuna isn't as dolphin-safe as you'd prefer...

THIS- from people that voted for Barack H. Obama- governor of the Harvard Law Review, who had less executive experience of any man to ever aspire to the Presidency. And has failed accordingly.

Do your own homework fellas- and I'll see you at the Inauguration in January.

woot.

Its not just that. I think he will run (obviously) under his one big positive accomplishment: Jobs. With unemplyment the way it is right now, I really think people will listen to him and want to know how he gained his success in that department. But according to that list that Arthurdent posted, there are a lot of concerns that must be addressed. Don't you want to know more about why Texas' housing market and environmental issues are ranked so poorly?? Why he doesnt care much about safe sex education?

and PS-I thought Alaska was the largest State in the Union.

cincybearcat

Wouldn't a big state with more industry have more air emissions?

I'm not sure you can just look at a list and know all.

As for the wealth gap, I'm pretty sure it's due to some old oil money, but again, can't just look at a list and pretend to know.

I do find it funny, the whole jobs thing. Texas has crated more jobs...but, but, but they are low paying jobs!!!!! Ummm...better than NO JOB, no?

fife

Parachute wrote:

ComeToTX wrote:

yep, most of the created jobs are low paying and don't offer insurance. he's a joke.

Austin. The Berkley of Texas.

A joke? Here's a joke:

-"Who's the President of the United States?"

-"Barack Obama".

Now that's a fucking joke.

LIve with this thought for the next 14 months: Perry will be YOUR President, too.

All the Christianity. All that big-military shit. All that send the illegals home and make English the official language shit. All that tax breaks for everyone shit. All that give me back your food stamps shit. All that anti-gay marriage shit.


All that Conservative shit.

It's gonna be epic. Like the failure of the Kenyan Marxist.

I am starting to wonder if you don't really believe any of this shit and are trying to just have fun. either that or i am just very tired and have no idea what you just wrote cause that was just the most bizarre post i have ever read.

Parachute

JonnyPistachio wrote:

Parachute wrote:

All of a sudden this 11 year Governor of the largerst state in the Union, isn't qualified to be Prez b/c there is too much disparity b/w the classes in his state, or not all the jobs created in his state offer 401K and free everything- or TX tuna isn't as dolphin-safe as you'd prefer...

THIS- from people that voted for Barack H. Obama- governor of the Harvard Law Review, who had less executive experience of any man to ever aspire to the Presidency. And has failed accordingly.

Do your own homework fellas- and I'll see you at the Inauguration in January.

woot.

Its not just that. I think he will run (obviously) under his one big positive accomplishment: Jobs. With unemplyment the way it is right now, I really think people will listen to him and want to know how he gained his success in that department. But according to that list that Arthurdent posted, there are a lot of concerns that must be addressed. Don't you want to know more about why Texas' housing market and environmental issues are ranked so poorly?? Why he doesnt care much about safe sex education?

and PS-I thought Alaska was the largest State in the Union.

And to your point, I understand most of the jobs are related to the oil industry- which is an advantage most states don't share... It will be interesting to see how the candidates spin it.

No candidate is perfect, and I'm sure that Perry and I will disagree on some issues, but turning this economy around is my number one priority, and Obama's philosophies are a failure- he could be President for 100 years and still wouldn't work. They just stifle growth. Perry's desire to shrink government and gov't spending, cut taxes and bolster our strong national defense is what I'll be voting for.

It's just a philisophical difference, not personal.

And you may be right about Alaska- I will look it up- if so, well played.

Parachute

Oh... and stats from the DailyKos are inadmissable in my book.

Something a little less left-wing-radical-crazy-as-shit would be a better source.

Parachute

fife wrote:

Parachute wrote:

ComeToTX wrote:

yep, most of the created jobs are low paying and don't offer insurance. he's a joke.

Austin. The Berkley of Texas.

A joke? Here's a joke:

-"Who's the President of the United States?"

-"Barack Obama".

Now that's a fucking joke.

LIve with this thought for the next 14 months: Perry will be YOUR President, too.

All the Christianity. All that big-military shit. All that send the illegals home and make English the official language shit. All that tax breaks for everyone shit. All that give me back your food stamps shit. All that anti-gay marriage shit.


All that Conservative shit.

It's gonna be epic. Like the failure of the Kenyan Marxist.

I am starting to wonder if you don't really believe any of this shit and are trying to just have fun. either that or i am just very tired and have no idea what you just wrote cause that was just the most bizarre post i have ever read.

I do believe it. I AM having fun with it. I realize that here, I am in the minority, but in reality, there are millions of people just like me.... Without me and a few others here, there would be nothing to debate- just a big government circle jerk.

Let's keep it lively, shall we?

JonnyPistachio

Parachute wrote:

bolster our strong national defense is what I'll be voting for.

He wants to bolster our national defense? How?

Ok, I am sincerely curious about his job creating success.. I agree with Cincy, they ARE jobs (low paying or not), so thats good.
But even though its a big state, I still find the environmental issues a concern, as well as whats going on with housing, and the high ranks in many stats with the poor and women.. it doesnt look good.

fife

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I am starting to wonder if you don't really believe any of this shit and are trying to just have fun. either that or i am just very tired and have no idea what you just wrote cause that was just the most bizarre post i have ever read.[/quote]


I do believe it. I AM having fun with it. I realize that here, I am in the minority, but in reality, there are millions of people just like me.... Without me and a few others here, there would be nothing to debate- just a big government circle jerk.

Let's keep it lively, shall we?[/quote]

i don't question that there are millions of people who believe that same way as you. i want lie and say that this doesn't scare me but i say the same things about very left wing politics also.

yes lively is good, but social grace is also good. afteralll we are not the congress

Prince Of Dorkness

Parachute wrote:

All of a sudden this 11 year Governor of the largerst state in the Union, isn't qualified to be Prez b/c there is too much disparity b/w the classes in his state, or not all the jobs created in his state offer 401K and free everything- or TX tuna isn't as dolphin-safe as you'd prefer...

THIS- from people that voted for Barack H. Obama- governor of the Harvard Law Review, who had less executive experience of any man to ever aspire to the Presidency. And has failed accordingly.

Do your own homework fellas- and I'll see you at the Inauguration in January.

woot.

OK then...let's turn that around...

Someone with little to no record who really wasn't ready to be president IS now president and I'm taking it that you're very unhappy with the job that he's done.

So.. your solution to the problem is to vote for someone who seems even LESS qualified and has a proven record of failure, stupidity and fudging numbers to make himself look good?

Hm.. Ok, then. Good luck with that.

slightofjeff

JonnyPistachio wrote:

http://www.cnn.com/2011/OPINION/08/15/frum.perry.economy/index.html?hpt=hp_c1

I asked in another thread and nobody could answer: How is Texas able to create so many jobs? Is it a reflection of Perrys politics?

I think the answer is: Not really.

Texas was responsible for nearly half the jobs created nationwide during the "recovery." I think Perry gets some credit for fostering a pro-business environment, or at the very least, an environment that isn't hostile toward doing business.

However, a couple things to keep in mind: 1) In Texas, the governor doesn't have all that much power. It isn't analogous to being President. Perry wasn't exactly a figurehead, per se, but he was close to that.

2) A lot of the jobs "created" were due to a boom in population growth, with many of those new workers coming from Mexico. A lot of the jobs "created" were also military jobs -- which would have been created regardless of who the governor was.

The poverty rate in Texas is going up (again, however, you can probably attribute this to many low-income refugees from Mexico). Meanwhile, Perry has also been hell on education here -- he likes to tout his balanced budget, which is nice, but he mostly balanced it by gutting education money (and accepting federal stimulus money from Mean Ol' Uncle Sam).

If the economy is the No. 1 issue, and you're asking me to choose Perry over Obama, I'd take Perry and hold my nose. Even for Republicans, he's a very mixed bag.