Ive been sitting at 19 PEARL JAM shows since last May.
Even though Im going to see Ed next Saturday in Minnesota, PJ20 will be my 20th and 21st time seeing PEARL JAM - Mike, STone, Ed, Jeff and Matt all together.
And I'll have seen EDDIE Edward Louis Severson III/Mueller VEDDER, count it, ONCE.
And just so I'm clear; this was never about song counts. If Ed plays Around the Bend solo and you want to say you heard it live, then obviously you did. My whole point was and is that I think it's wrong and disrespectful to the rest of the band to go to an Eddie Vedder solo show (and you can tell you're at one because your ticket will say EDDIE VEDDER, the t-shirts and posters will say EDDIE VEDDER and you will notice that Mike, Stone, Jeff, Matt and Boom are NOT THERE!) and say it was the same thing as seeing Pearl Jam live.
The closest any of these shows ever came to being a PJ show was when Mike joined Ed for Ledbetter on the first leg of his first solo tour. Other than that, Ed has never played a PJ song that he didn't write the words and music too except for that one time. He has never played Alive, Daughter, Nothingman, Smile, Low Light, Thin Air, You Are, Parachutes or The Fixer. I guess you could argue that Light Years was pretty close, but Ed was still the primary songwriter.
IMO Ed is trying to keep the two things separate from one another. Like I said before he won't even say the words Pearl Jam at his shows. I just think fans should too.
And just so I'm clear; this was never about song counts. If Ed plays Around the Bend solo and you want to say you heard it live, then obviously you did. My whole point was and is that I think it's wrong and disrespectful to the rest of the band to go to an Eddie Vedder solo show (and you can tell you're at one because your ticket will say EDDIE VEDDER, the t-shirts and posters will say EDDIE VEDDER and you will notice that Mike, Stone, Jeff, Matt and Boom are NOT THERE!) and say it was the same thing as seeing Pearl Jam live.
The closest any of these shows ever came to being a PJ show was when Mike joined Ed for Ledbetter on the first leg of his first solo tour. Other than that, Ed has never played a PJ song that he didn't write the words and music too except for that one time. He has never played Alive, Daughter, Nothingman, Smile, Low Light, Thin Air, You Are, Parachutes or The Fixer. I guess you could argue that Light Years was pretty close, but Ed was still the primary songwriter.
IMO Ed is trying to keep the two things separate from one another. Like I said before he won't even say the words Pearl Jam at his shows. I just think fans should too.
IMO
So how does your logic apply to a song like Dead man? most the band played on it, yet it's only ever ed plays it.
Ed's principal writer for Parting Ways, Around the bend, Long Road, Off he goes.
if i see ed play these on a shoestring and a bassbox and a matchstick orchestra, as long as he's singing the words? I can say i saw those songs live.
And just so I'm clear; this was never about song counts. If Ed plays Around the Bend solo and you want to say you heard it live, then obviously you did. My whole point was and is that I think it's wrong and disrespectful to the rest of the band to go to an Eddie Vedder solo show (and you can tell you're at one because your ticket will say EDDIE VEDDER, the t-shirts and posters will say EDDIE VEDDER and you will notice that Mike, Stone, Jeff, Matt and Boom are NOT THERE!) and say it was the same thing as seeing Pearl Jam live.
The closest any of these shows ever came to being a PJ show was when Mike joined Ed for Ledbetter on the first leg of his first solo tour. Other than that, Ed has never played a PJ song that he didn't write the words and music too except for that one time. He has never played Alive, Daughter, Nothingman, Smile, Low Light, Thin Air, You Are, Parachutes or The Fixer. I guess you could argue that Light Years was pretty close, but Ed was still the primary songwriter.
IMO Ed is trying to keep the two things separate from one another. Like I said before he won't even say the words Pearl Jam at his shows. I just think fans should too.
IMO
So how does your logic apply to a song like Dead man? most the band played on it, yet it's only ever ed plays it.
Ed's principal writer for Parting Ways, Around the bend, Long Road, Off he goes.
if i see ed play these on a shoestring and a bassbox and a matchstick orchestra, as long as he's singing the words? I can say i saw those songs live.
Can you read? I said that you are free to count what you want, go nuts! The whole thread is about the difference between Pearl Jam shows and Ed's solo shows. These semantics are a result of people only reading what they want to read. Your post makes NO sense.
Havent posted on this topic yet... been thinking about it... Im on 29 PJ shows and 3 ED shows...
IMO for what its worth...( not much i know ha)
I count it... I dont think its disrespectful to the rest of the band... The band members are so into their own and their band members side projects I think the Point of the "PEARL JAM FAMILY" is that they really consider the whole group... including even us the fans as part of their family... when Ed is on Tour or Tres Mts or Brad... they are all representing and in most cases playing to the PJ Family... So fuck it... we are all 1 big happy group... I count it...
And just so I'm clear; this was never about song counts. If Ed plays Around the Bend solo and you want to say you heard it live, then obviously you did. My whole point was and is that I think it's wrong and disrespectful to the rest of the band to go to an Eddie Vedder solo show (and you can tell you're at one because your ticket will say EDDIE VEDDER, the t-shirts and posters will say EDDIE VEDDER and you will notice that Mike, Stone, Jeff, Matt and Boom are NOT THERE!) and say it was the same thing as seeing Pearl Jam live.
The closest any of these shows ever came to being a PJ show was when Mike joined Ed for Ledbetter on the first leg of his first solo tour. Other than that, Ed has never played a PJ song that he didn't write the words and music too except for that one time. He has never played Alive, Daughter, Nothingman, Smile, Low Light, Thin Air, You Are, Parachutes or The Fixer. I guess you could argue that Light Years was pretty close, but Ed was still the primary songwriter.
IMO Ed is trying to keep the two things separate from one another. Like I said before he won't even say the words Pearl Jam at his shows. I just think fans should too.
IMO
So how does your logic apply to a song like Dead man? most the band played on it, yet it's only ever ed plays it.
Ed's principal writer for Parting Ways, Around the bend, Long Road, Off he goes.
if i see ed play these on a shoestring and a bassbox and a matchstick orchestra, as long as he's singing the words? I can say i saw those songs live.
Can you read? I said that you are free to count what you want, go nuts! The whole thread is about the difference between Pearl Jam shows and Ed's solo shows. These semantics are a result of people only reading what they want to read. Your post makes NO sense.
Mine doesn't? your premise is that it's disrespectful for a guy to play *his own songs* just 'cos he's in a band and they don't happen to be there? that's ridiculous..
No, my premise is not that "it's disrespectful" for Ed to play his own songs, far from it. My point was that Ed plays his own songs and covers of songs he loves. He doesn't play Jeff or Stone's songs out of respect for the band. And the reason I believe is because he is trying to distance himself from Pearl Jam. At least for the night. It's an Eddie Vedder show. That was my point. He plays the Pearl Jam songs that HE wrote.
Thinking about this...I have just seen two Ed shows...wow! But I still have yet to see Pearl Jam....so I guess I feel they are not the same. I did love hearing the Pearl Jam songs played by Ed...and I now count myself as having heard them. BUT - I cannot wait to finally see Pearl Jam for the first time EVEr at alpine
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And this guy!
The closest any of these shows ever came to being a PJ show was when Mike joined Ed for Ledbetter on the first leg of his first solo tour. Other than that, Ed has never played a PJ song that he didn't write the words and music too except for that one time. He has never played Alive, Daughter, Nothingman, Smile, Low Light, Thin Air, You Are, Parachutes or The Fixer. I guess you could argue that Light Years was pretty close, but Ed was still the primary songwriter.
IMO Ed is trying to keep the two things separate from one another. Like I said before he won't even say the words Pearl Jam at his shows. I just think fans should too.
IMO
So how does your logic apply to a song like Dead man? most the band played on it, yet it's only ever ed plays it.
Ed's principal writer for Parting Ways, Around the bend, Long Road, Off he goes.
if i see ed play these on a shoestring and a bassbox and a matchstick orchestra, as long as he's singing the words? I can say i saw those songs live.
Key Arena - Nov 05, 2000
Gorge Amphitheater - Sep 01, 2005, Jul 22,23, 2006
Key Arena - Sept 21,22, 2009
Alpine Valley - Sept 3, 4 2011
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Dumb thread is dumb.
Can you read? I said that you are free to count what you want, go nuts! The whole thread is about the difference between Pearl Jam shows and Ed's solo shows. These semantics are a result of people only reading what they want to read. Your post makes NO sense.
Yeah. Says me and a lot of other's who have posted on this thread who agree. You don't and that's fine.
And people taking the time to comment on what they consider a dumb thread? DUMBER!
IMO for what its worth...( not much i know ha)
I count it... I dont think its disrespectful to the rest of the band... The band members are so into their own and their band members side projects I think the Point of the "PEARL JAM FAMILY" is that they really consider the whole group... including even us the fans as part of their family... when Ed is on Tour or Tres Mts or Brad... they are all representing and in most cases playing to the PJ Family... So fuck it... we are all 1 big happy group... I count it...
2000 Tour- Saratoga 8/27 Boston 8/29, 8/30
2003 Tour- Albany 4/29 Boston 7/2,7/3,7/11 Philadelphia 7/5,7/6 MSG 7/8,7/9
2004 Tour- Boston 9/28,9/29
2006 Tour- Albany 5/12 Hartford 5/13 Boston 5/24,5/25
2008 Tour- MSG 6/24,6/25 Hartford 6/27 Boston 6/28,6/30 Eddie- Boston 8/1
2009 Tour- Eddie- Albany 6/9 Philly Spectrum- 10/30, 10/31
2010 Tour- Hartford 5/15 MSG 5/20,5/21
2011 Tour- Eddie- Hartford 6/18
2013 Tour- Worcester,MA 10/15,10/16 Hartford 10/25
2016 Tour- MSG 5/1,5/2 FENWAY 8/5,8/7
2018 Tour- Fenway 9/2, 9/4 (My 40th show)!
Mine doesn't? your premise is that it's disrespectful for a guy to play *his own songs* just 'cos he's in a band and they don't happen to be there? that's ridiculous..
you're a drummer aren't you?
i can tell..
And yes I am a drummer. But also a guitarist!
Thats just how I feel.
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