Obviously some people do 'give a shit.' It's just a topic of debate like any other topics discussed here. There are plenty of topics I don't care about and don't bother posting. I suggest you do the same. There is some good points raised by either side which was all I intended by starting the thread. That and expressing my opinion. No harm, no foul.
i would say that ev solo shows are not pearl jam shows and should be counted seperately. so i've seen pj 45 times, ed 5 times solo, tres mts once, brad once, and three fish (jeff's side band) once. lol
i think if ed does play a pearl jam song at a ed solo show than you can say that you heard ed sing it, but you can't cross it off your pearl jam list.
so at the beacon theatre i heard for the first time in 6 years long road. but it was sung by ed; so i haven't heard pearl jam play long road since '05.
whoa, confusing.
45 eh? Lucky man, I'm gonna hit 30 on September 15th! Ed solo twice, and all the other side bands - zero!
But I am going to see Matt's side band July 2nd. I think they're called Soundgarden?!?!
I don't think it's a huge deal, certainly nothing to argue over... but it can be fun for some ppl to debate, I guess. So why lock the thread? Just don't read it if you're not interested.
Whenever I tell someone my total, I generally say, "I've been to (x-amount of) PJ/EV shows," (currently 40). I put it that way, frankly, because the number always sounds better, haha ! But if they then ask me to break it down, I know the numbers separately, and I respect them as 2 completely different totals.
Similarly, my 1st show was Jones Beach 2000... so even though I say my 1st PJ song was Long Road, I also say that my 1st EV song was Dead Man (Ed pre-opened with it that night).
While I agree with this argument, what happens if you are at a Pearl Jam show and during the first encore, Ed comes out solo and plays The End, or Just Breathe, or Masters of War. Can you knock those of the list if the rest of the band wasn't on the stage while it was played?
Check your ticket stub; if it says Pearl Jam then you saw Pearl Jam. If it says Eddie Vedder then you saw Eddie Vedder. Pretty simple.
Wow that's awesome! You just enlightened me to the fact that I saw the only full band performance of "Guaranteed" at VA Beach in 2008. Oh wait, no I didn't... :roll:
I once worked a birthday party for the kid of a music exec at White Sox stadium in Chicago and there were a bunch of video birthday messages for the little brat. One of them was from Pearl Jam (no I'm not kidding). Does this count as an official Pearl Jam show? I need to make sure my count is "official". :twisted:
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Am I the only one who thinks it's ludicrous to count EV solo shows in a list of Pearl Jam shows attended? Was Stone, Jeff, Mike or Matt there? If you saw Brad, Tres Mts. or Flight to Mars would you count those? I know Ed plays PJ songs but if the rest of the band isn't there playing along, it is not Pearl Jam. Ed won't even say the words 'Pearl Jam' during his shows, he says 'that band I'm in.' Which reinforces my point. I've seen Ed solo twice and they were both incredible awe inspiring performances, but in no way would I count them as Pearl Jam shows.
IMO!
What does it matter to you if somebody counts it. Can I count shows before Matt Cameron joined, what about the shows that Boom plays in? Who made you the PJ god?
HA!!!!!! Charles N. Reilly - the youngsters won't even get it...
Does that make us old-timers?
PJ - 14+AV (2) still to come
EV - 1
Would be higher - Play The South
Haha he was the funniest part of that show!
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Pear Jam is the band, with multiple members. EV is just one member of the band. I would think you have to distinguish the two, agreeing (not arguing) with the op. I will be seeing my first EV show Tuesday, and I've seen PJ 6 times.
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Can I count the songs when I saw a Pearl Jam cover band 5 or 6 years ago?
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Is it just as silly as the people who put future shows in their sig? I mean, the shows haven't actually happened yet. You haven't actually been to the show(s) yet.
IMO, people putting shows in their sig is another way of saying, "my penis is bigger than yours." Doesn't apply for females, I guess.
I don't count Ed shows as PJ shows, but who really cares if people do
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I don't count Ed shows as PJ shows, but who really cares if people do
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Am I the only one who thinks it's ludicrous to count EV solo shows in a list of Pearl Jam shows attended? Was Stone, Jeff, Mike or Matt there? If you saw Brad, Tres Mts. or Flight to Mars would you count those? I know Ed plays PJ songs but if the rest of the band isn't there playing along, it is not Pearl Jam. Ed won't even say the words 'Pearl Jam' during his shows, he says 'that band I'm in.' Which reinforces my point. I've seen Ed solo twice and they were both incredible awe inspiring performances, but in no way would I count them as Pearl Jam shows.
Am I the only one who thinks it's ludicrous to count EV solo shows in a list of Pearl Jam shows attended? Was Stone, Jeff, Mike or Matt there? If you saw Brad, Tres Mts. or Flight to Mars would you count those? I know Ed plays PJ songs but if the rest of the band isn't there playing along, it is not Pearl Jam. Ed won't even say the words 'Pearl Jam' during his shows, he says 'that band I'm in.' Which reinforces my point. I've seen Ed solo twice and they were both incredible awe inspiring performances, but in no way would I count them as Pearl Jam shows.
IMO!
What does it matter to you if somebody counts it. Can I count shows before Matt Cameron joined, what about the shows that Boom plays in? Who made you the PJ god?
Did i say I was the "PJ God?" No I did not. And your post makes no sense. My whole point was if you're at a Pearl Jam show it will say so on your ticket. If you're at an Eddie Vedder show it will say so on your ticket, and you'll probably notice that the rest of the band aren't there, so it is NOT A PEARL JAM SHOW! This has nothing to with being a God or thinking that my opinion is testament, it's just REALITY! I`m sure Stone, Mike, and Jeff and Ed too for that matter would think you were on crack to think otherwise. Pearl Jam are a BAND! Look up the meaning of the word. If you just have one piece of that band, you are getting just that. It`s absolutely absurd to think it counts as a PJ show.
Clearly there are some people who agree with me, and some who do not, and some who just don`t care. SHOCKER! Just like any debate I expected to hear some different opinions and that is the whole point of starting a discussion in the first place. Just because you don`t agree doesn`t mean you have to get rude or insulting. That`s how threads get locked. State your opinion, or don`t. Agree to disagree!
Keeping count of shows attended is obviously important enough to some people that the Ten Club has included it in the profile section. You can find every show by date and venue in the database. Last time I checked, Eddie Vedder solo shows did not appear.
Why did I even bother clicking on this one. I know I have been to well over 50 shows, but I just don't feel the need to count anymore. The only thing I know and care about is that I will be at PJ20.
Well, my counter for Edward Norton shows is up to 1. And nobody can take that away from me. I was there for Beacon II, and he was on stage for 2 songs. Count 'em! 2 songs! My official decree is more than 1 song, and it counts as a show for whoever it is.
So, I got a 2 fer. EV 1, EN 1. I am so psyched, I might update both my sig and profile (though since profile doesn't have a separate counter for EV or EN, I'm counting it as 2 PJ shows. There's just no other way to count them properly until 10C gets on the ball and allows counting for all this other stuff I need counted separately).
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Exactly. Who gives a shit???
45 eh? Lucky man, I'm gonna hit 30 on September 15th! Ed solo twice, and all the other side bands - zero!
But I am going to see Matt's side band July 2nd. I think they're called Soundgarden?!?!
who cares?
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Whenever I tell someone my total, I generally say, "I've been to (x-amount of) PJ/EV shows," (currently 40). I put it that way, frankly, because the number always sounds better, haha
Similarly, my 1st show was Jones Beach 2000... so even though I say my 1st PJ song was Long Road, I also say that my 1st EV song was Dead Man (Ed pre-opened with it that night).
Wow that's awesome! You just enlightened me to the fact that I saw the only full band performance of "Guaranteed" at VA Beach in 2008. Oh wait, no I didn't... :roll:
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Would be higher - Play The South
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Pearl Jam and Eddie Vedder are different.
Interesting that people think otherwise.
I have seen Eric Clapton in concert but have never seen Cream... This makes sense, right?
What does it matter to you if somebody counts it. Can I count shows before Matt Cameron joined, what about the shows that Boom plays in? Who made you the PJ god?
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IMO, people putting shows in their sig is another way of saying, "my penis is bigger than yours." Doesn't apply for females, I guess.
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Its like golf, you are only cheating yourself.
But a LOT of people cheat at golf.
we are very proud and faithful fans.
I am just as proud of my many EV shows as I am my PJ attendance.
So yes, I lump them together but with distinction
though I forget at the moment how many I got!
Well Alex, What is semantics.
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Did i say I was the "PJ God?" No I did not. And your post makes no sense. My whole point was if you're at a Pearl Jam show it will say so on your ticket. If you're at an Eddie Vedder show it will say so on your ticket, and you'll probably notice that the rest of the band aren't there, so it is NOT A PEARL JAM SHOW! This has nothing to with being a God or thinking that my opinion is testament, it's just REALITY! I`m sure Stone, Mike, and Jeff and Ed too for that matter would think you were on crack to think otherwise. Pearl Jam are a BAND! Look up the meaning of the word. If you just have one piece of that band, you are getting just that. It`s absolutely absurd to think it counts as a PJ show.
Clearly there are some people who agree with me, and some who do not, and some who just don`t care. SHOCKER! Just like any debate I expected to hear some different opinions and that is the whole point of starting a discussion in the first place. Just because you don`t agree doesn`t mean you have to get rude or insulting. That`s how threads get locked. State your opinion, or don`t. Agree to disagree!
Keeping count of shows attended is obviously important enough to some people that the Ten Club has included it in the profile section. You can find every show by date and venue in the database. Last time I checked, Eddie Vedder solo shows did not appear.
I rest my case.
So, I got a 2 fer. EV 1, EN 1. I am so psyched, I might update both my sig and profile (though since profile doesn't have a separate counter for EV or EN, I'm counting it as 2 PJ shows. There's just no other way to count them properly until 10C gets on the ball and allows counting for all this other stuff I need counted separately).